When I was younger I worked with a 50s Massey Harris Fergerson. No cab or radio just a 10ltr Jerry Can for drinking water. Miss those days. Thanks Tom....
First combine I drove was a Massey 510, some tubers would call it a BEAST. It may well of been back then dust and sweat and barley horns made for many a memorable day.
My neighbor, who is a farmer, worked part-time for a contractor with numerous combines. None of them had a cab. He said after a day of harvesting, he needed several days to get his nose free of it.
I'm going to take exception with one of your final statements about this being an older, smaller version of the modern combine. I would agree with you up to the point the "rotor" machines came out. With the rotor machines most of the thrashing and separating mechanisms change. You still have a set of sieves and a fan, but the cylinder, straw walkers, and a lot of the rest of the thrashing components of this combine are no longer used. The rotor(s) added thrashing capacity that was getting unmanageable with the cylinder/straw walker machines. BTW, I grew up around a combine similar to this, but a Massey Harris (forerunner to Massey Ferguson), and spent all of 3 summers operating a Gleaner that was larger, maybe a little newer, but surprisingly similar to this one in the way the drive trains were set up.
That machine has been restored to almost better than factory. Very basic elements but still gets the job done, albeit slower than modern machines. The crop density of modern varieties of barley may cause it to struggle a bit, but it still manages. Really nice clean sample in the tank - Gleaners in particulare were renowned for that, hence the 'Gleaner' term.
What a great old machine. I should think it was serious technology in its day. But it’s doing everything the modern ones can do. Maybe a bit slower. But it’s doing it. Nice to see. Cheers Tom.
Sounds almost exactly like the Case 600 my grandfather was using up until the mid 90’s. Looks pretty similar too. Takes me right back to sitting on the 72 06 Deutz in CO-OP orange, two gravity wagons on the back waiting for him to signal that the bin was getting full.
My father was a farmer in the 60's - 70's and used to use an open cabbed combine, not sure what make it was, for some reason I am thinking Class, but could be wrong. I remember he used to resemble a coal miner getting off the thing. His main tractor was a Ford 4000, and a Massey 65 was the secondary, good memories mostly I guess. I used to stack the straw after balling, riding on the back of the sledge, wait till the gate popped and then jump off and stack the 8 bales, then run to catch up.
I remember combining wheat the same way when I was a teenager. We had a large umbrella for shade, though. You would start the day clean and shiny, but by the end of the day, some 14hours later, you would be pooped, coated with dust in places dust shouldn't get to, just in time to head home, shower 2kilos of dust off and hit the sack. Ditto every day until the crop was in. Lunch and supper were eaten in the field. Eyes always on the weather in case a tornado decided to drop in for an unscheduled visit. The new machinery may be more efficient and more quiet, but GPS, onboard computers keeping track of how much grain is in the hopper, header feed rates, fuel consumption etc., and STEREOS, CD players, filtered cab air and airconditioning? Wow! They're nice, but you get soft. As an old farmer, I've worked plenty hard all my life; I'll take the "soft", thanks very much. Cheers from Alberta, Canada.
What a lovely sounding engine for the age of it Tom. I can imagine sitting there for 12 hours your back would be sore and then you would have to do it all over again the next day. Thanks for the video Tom as it’s interesting to see old machines still working.
Tom Lamb, he’s a classic farmer!! Seen many of these but never one actually running, thank you. Much calmer and smoother than I thought it would actually be. Amazing what a few blokes with pipes and flat caps could do before computers and electronics!!!!
I guess this is what came after the threshing machine that I was used to in the ‘40s. Great times threshing with all the hands coming from farms around to help out, then we would move to the next farm when the thresher got set up so we could help them.
That's an awesome video. Tom takes me back to the early 70s when we used one one like 8 ft cut and we had a fordson dexter with a 3 ton trailer the following year we went to a 12 foot cut and 5 ton trailer we used to tip into a box with an auger to take grain into a pre cleaner then into 16 stone bags which we wheeled along the cattle courts to store them till the waggons came for it and loaded them up a elevator
We had a Massey Ferguson 585 with a 15ft comb when Dad sold out in March 1973. We could strip 100 acres a day. Didn't work at night, no lights. Started as early in the morning as conditions allowed i.e. warm enough to thrash. No cab. In Western Australia we have harvest bans when it reaches 100 deg F. or around 38 deg C. I used to get really brown after stripping 2,500 acres.
My first memories of Harvest were late 60's. Farm had two trailed Massy combines and wheat was grown by our house after all the Derby Apple trees were grubbed. Inevitably there was a fire on one combine. As a kid got really exited having 3 Fire engines by our place. I have now grown up.
Reminds me of the SK-4 soviet harvesters that where just literally bare bones. No cab, just a very simple sunroof, controls very stiff and janky. But for it's time it did it's job well. I believe the first Soviet/Russian built harvester that had factory air conditioning and cabin air filters whas the Don I500. Fires were common with harvesters in the past. Oil and a lot of dust would lead eventually to some fires break out. Love the video, good example how things were done in the past.
Braw video Tom. What a minted old machine. I like how everything is accessible on it, you can see what’s going on and easier for maintenance. Downside to that is all those exposed belts and pulleys could leave you an amputee😂, for skilled operators only. Cheers mate.
Very nice. That's why you open a field always counterclockwise, so will never run into a tree or a power pole or what ever with the unloading auger, yes I know the new ones (last 40 years} are most of the time folded in, but just in case.
In the US, at least the first folding unloading augers were the Massey Ferguson 300 / 410 / 510 series. I can't speak to the smaller machines, but I know the 510 was introduced in the states in 1965. I'd assume the smaller ones came out about the same time.
Hi Tom, is that the one Ron Knight restored, i remember when he first finished it. I went to see it at Casterton when it did its first cut in 30 years. I have 3 original Gleaners including one just like this just without the paint. Look up RB Harvesters if you get chance. Thanks pal. PS the drums in the front on a Gleaner, where the elevator usually is. The stone trap flips rite open to sling stones out. My 1964 A has a buzzer that could wake the dead. Nearly gave me a heart attack the first time it went off.
@Tomlamb980 yes i know Brian he video my 💯 year Gleaner celebration last year. Its on his channel. I knew his Dad too. He used to make a few bits n pieces for my old Gleaners. Stuff i couldn't get anywhere
Growing up, we had a JI Case 660. It had a very primitive cab - no heat or A/C. It did have blower that blew dust in your face. Ran with the door open just to make it bearable. Might have been better off without it.
In the early 60s, my first wk end/evening job was on a Massey combine similar to this, but the corn was bagged. 3 or 4 bags on the chute, then let them go. Last job of the day go round and pick them all up, nearly always some would get left.
A few minor differences from the old Model A Gleaner I had years ago. Only here in the USA Allis never painted the sheet metal, just left it galvanized! Really a nice clean sample in the bin, mine never could get it that clean. Mine had a gasolene powered motor, valve in block, that was its big shortcoming. Always keep the bin unloader to the inside of the field to avoid hitting the trees in the fence row!
It's good to keep the Old machinery running I'm not putting into old museums I mean Tom you'll be old one day and we wouldn't want you to stop working😂😂😂
We used to run 2 x Clayson combines for contracting back in the 60’s and70’s one had a 10ft header and the “big one” had a 12ft header. We just seemed to have more time in those days or maybe it’s just my rose tinted spectacles. 👓
Afternoon Tom Great piece of vintage farming, lovely conserved Allis I follow the Casterton Vintage youtube, are you aware/involved with vintage tractor group or showing Geoff
Great to see one of Ron and Brian Knights restorations stretching her legs. Power Farming Ltd, Stamford. Empingham Road, Stamford if memory serves me correctly. The Pickworth Farm of Burghley Estate ran four Alis Chalmers combines one year in the 1960’s can’t remember which model they were. The estate changed their combines each year and had different brand combines depending where they got the best deal. Soon be the Great Casterton Vintage weekend on 20 September. 👍
@@Tomlamb980 Thank you. It brought back some memories for me Tom of when I lived just up the road from your farm. Nice to see the vintage machines which have been saved and actually put back into service. I love your mixed content, keep it up. 👍
Great video. How much grain is being lost out the sides of the machine? The images you showed of the sides seem to indicate wheat grains on every surface
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I love how this video highlights the benefits of agriculture technology. Very informative
Captian obvious same idea
Duh
When I was younger I worked with a 50s Massey Harris Fergerson. No cab or radio just a 10ltr Jerry Can for drinking water. Miss those days. Thanks Tom....
First combine I drove was a Massey 510, some tubers would call it a BEAST. It may well of been back then dust and sweat and barley horns made for many a memorable day.
The combine has a lovely clean sample of wheat.
It does!
My neighbor, who is a farmer, worked part-time for a contractor with numerous combines. None of them had a cab. He said after a day of harvesting, he needed several days to get his nose free of it.
I'm going to take exception with one of your final statements about this being an older, smaller version of the modern combine. I would agree with you up to the point the "rotor" machines came out. With the rotor machines most of the thrashing and separating mechanisms change. You still have a set of sieves and a fan, but the cylinder, straw walkers, and a lot of the rest of the thrashing components of this combine are no longer used. The rotor(s) added thrashing capacity that was getting unmanageable with the cylinder/straw walker machines.
BTW, I grew up around a combine similar to this, but a Massey Harris (forerunner to Massey Ferguson), and spent all of 3 summers operating a Gleaner that was larger, maybe a little newer, but surprisingly similar to this one in the way the drive trains were set up.
Great sample from the old straw walker machines. Not like the crap and chaff you see from the modern rotary combine.
That machine has been restored to almost better than factory. Very basic elements but still gets the job done, albeit slower than modern machines.
The crop density of modern varieties of barley may cause it to struggle a bit, but it still manages.
Really nice clean sample in the tank - Gleaners in particulare were renowned for that, hence the 'Gleaner' term.
Good on you, Tom, the old girl is still doing her job
What a great old machine. I should think it was serious technology in its day. But it’s doing everything the modern ones can do. Maybe a bit slower. But it’s doing it. Nice to see. Cheers Tom.
Sounds almost exactly like the Case 600 my grandfather was using up until the mid 90’s. Looks pretty similar too. Takes me right back to sitting on the 72 06 Deutz in CO-OP orange, two gravity wagons on the back waiting for him to signal that the bin was getting full.
This video showcases some amazing innovations in agriculture technology. Thanks for sharing
My father was a farmer in the 60's - 70's and used to use an open cabbed combine, not sure what make it was, for some reason I am thinking Class, but could be wrong. I remember he used to resemble a coal miner getting off the thing. His main tractor was a Ford 4000, and a Massey 65 was the secondary, good memories mostly I guess. I used to stack the straw after balling, riding on the back of the sledge, wait till the gate popped and then jump off and stack the 8 bales, then run to catch up.
I remember combining wheat the same way when I was a teenager. We had a large umbrella for shade, though. You would start the day clean and shiny, but by the end of the day, some 14hours later, you would be pooped, coated with dust in places dust shouldn't get to, just in time to head home, shower 2kilos of dust off and hit the sack. Ditto every day until the crop was in. Lunch and supper were eaten in the field. Eyes always on the weather in case a tornado decided to drop in for an unscheduled visit.
The new machinery may be more efficient and more quiet, but GPS, onboard computers keeping track of how much grain is in the hopper, header feed rates, fuel consumption etc., and STEREOS, CD players, filtered cab air and airconditioning? Wow! They're nice, but you get soft.
As an old farmer, I've worked plenty hard all my life; I'll take the "soft", thanks very much. Cheers from Alberta, Canada.
That is an awesome bit of kit. Great to see more of the inner workings! Top vid!
Thanks 👍
I was cringing at him putting that spout out with his foot near that belt 😯
What a lovely sounding engine for the age of it Tom. I can imagine sitting there for 12 hours your back would be sore and then you would have to do it all over again the next day. Thanks for the video Tom as it’s interesting to see old machines still working.
At least you'd have to stop when it got dark, but you'd be needing a rest, I'm sure!
Being there and done that, this video certainly brings memories back, thanks for making this video available, brilliant.
I find the old machines cool. We have alot of them here in Saskatchewan and much older as yard ornaments. But still very cool. Thanks for the video.
Tom Lamb, he’s a classic farmer!!
Seen many of these but never one actually running, thank you. Much calmer and smoother than I thought it would actually be.
Amazing what a few blokes with pipes and flat caps could do before computers and electronics!!!!
I guess this is what came after the threshing machine that I was used to in the ‘40s. Great times threshing with all the hands coming from farms around to help out, then we would move to the next farm when the thresher got set up so we could help them.
Love seeing the old equipment not just running but actually working a field. Great vid Tom!
10:21 great content again nice to see the old combine harvesting simple engineering no computers needed to fix it when it goes wrong either
That's an awesome video. Tom takes me back to the early 70s when we used one one like 8 ft cut and we had a fordson dexter with a 3 ton trailer the following year we went to a 12 foot cut and 5 ton trailer we used to tip into a box with an auger to take grain into a pre cleaner then into 16 stone bags which we wheeled along the cattle courts to store them till the waggons came for it and loaded them up a elevator
The old dear is still putting out a decent clean sample.
It's a gleanner
We had a Massey Ferguson 585 with a 15ft comb when Dad sold out in March 1973. We could strip 100 acres a day. Didn't work at night, no lights. Started as early in the morning as conditions allowed i.e. warm enough to thrash. No cab. In Western Australia we have harvest bans when it reaches 100 deg F. or around 38 deg C. I used to get really brown after stripping 2,500 acres.
My first memories of Harvest were late 60's. Farm had two trailed Massy combines and wheat was grown by our house after all the Derby Apple trees were grubbed. Inevitably there was a fire on one combine. As a kid got really exited having 3 Fire engines by our place. I have now grown up.
My grandfather had an open cab John Deere back in the day in SA.
Can't imagine the sunburn and dust inhalation from being exposed.
That's a beaut Tom. Always remember when I was young in the school holidays going with my Dad to repair stuff when he worked for Kirbys. Good days 😃
Really interesting to see the old machine, I bet it cost a bit back in the day , but a lot cheaper to repair that a modern one ❤
Great video Tom very interesting and informative the old combine is doing a fantastic job for it's age 👍
Thanks 👍
Reminds me of the SK-4 soviet harvesters that where just literally bare bones. No cab, just a very simple sunroof, controls very stiff and janky. But for it's time it did it's job well. I believe the first Soviet/Russian built harvester that had factory air conditioning and cabin air filters whas the Don I500. Fires were common with harvesters in the past. Oil and a lot of dust would lead eventually to some fires break out. Love the video, good example how things were done in the past.
Beautiful old machine, that engine sounds really sweet too. Amazing that something so slow can be so dangerous.
What a lovely machine and so good to see it working.
What a lovely machine, the crop looks good as well.
Another quintessential farming video. You’re spoiling us with all this great content.
Excellent Demo !!! 😂 Good job from a old Combine 👍
Nice to see the older but great equipment. Thanks
Allis-Chalmers, that's a name I had forgotten. Thanks Mr Lamb.
My dad did custom harvesting. I went with, owners still used horse. I could drive and back up. I was 13.
Braw video Tom. What a minted old machine. I like how everything is accessible on it, you can see what’s going on and easier for maintenance. Downside to that is all those exposed belts and pulleys could leave you an amputee😂, for skilled operators only. Cheers mate.
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent video - great restoration by Knight Farm Machinery! What a cracking job in the wheat, you looked to be enjoying yourself!
Loving the old machines Tom 😊
Brings back memories of my younger years.
Very nice. That's why you open a field always counterclockwise, so will never run into a tree or a power pole or what ever with the unloading auger, yes I know the new ones (last 40 years} are most of the time folded in, but just in case.
In the US, at least the first folding unloading augers were the Massey Ferguson 300 / 410 / 510 series. I can't speak to the smaller machines, but I know the 510 was introduced in the states in 1965. I'd assume the smaller ones came out about the same time.
Wot a lovely old piece of farming machinery
Brilliant to see this gem. The wonders of TH-cam. What year is it, please?
Hi Tom, is that the one Ron Knight restored, i remember when he first finished it. I went to see it at Casterton when it did its first cut in 30 years.
I have 3 original Gleaners including one just like this just without the paint. Look up RB Harvesters if you get chance.
Thanks pal. PS the drums in the front on a Gleaner, where the elevator usually is. The stone trap flips rite open to sling stones out. My 1964 A has a buzzer that could wake the dead. Nearly gave me a heart attack the first time it went off.
Yes it is that one the bloke in the back ground is bryan knight
@Tomlamb980 yes i know Brian he video my 💯 year Gleaner celebration last year. Its on his channel. I knew his Dad too. He used to make a few bits n pieces for my old Gleaners. Stuff i couldn't get anywhere
I remember our old combine (now long gone). Old Shearer tow along, with an 18' cut.
Growing up, we had a JI Case 660. It had a very primitive cab - no heat or A/C. It did have blower that blew dust in your face. Ran with the door open just to make it bearable. Might have been better off without it.
What a sweet machine. A proper job.
In the early 60s, my first wk end/evening job was on a Massey combine similar to this, but the corn was bagged. 3 or 4 bags on the chute, then let them go. Last job of the day go round and pick them all up, nearly always some would get left.
What a machine. The combine is cool too.
Nice to see a vintage combine working
this is what fed Britain 🇬🇧
Now we sre farming tom lamb 😊
Yes we are
Hi Tom ....love the daily videos 👌👌
Glad you like them!
Lovely classic combine.
Now we're classic farming! Love it. How much longer to do the harvest with only this machine
That is a beautiful bit of kit, however I am sure that the farmer/driver would prefer the Lexion 8900 clean air and air con.
A few minor differences from the old Model A Gleaner I had years ago. Only here in the USA Allis never painted the sheet metal, just left it galvanized! Really a nice clean sample in the bin, mine never could get it that clean. Mine had a gasolene powered motor, valve in block, that was its big shortcoming. Always keep the bin unloader to the inside of the field to avoid hitting the trees in the fence row!
my A had 230 ci gasoline engine with I head. it also was unpainted
It's good to keep the Old machinery running I'm not putting into old museums I mean Tom you'll be old one day and we wouldn't want you to stop working😂😂😂
This one looks very much like the smaller sibling to the one my dad used when I was a kid!
Love it no need to worry about right to repair. Just needs a GPS upgrade and a self-drive system an Arduino should do it 😊
I think the Tom Lamb Steering System is better. It also provides commentary.
can almost smell that dust and itch due to the dust mites lol. we used to run open cab class mercator in the 80's fab times. but very dusty!
We used to run 2 x Clayson combines for contracting back in the 60’s and70’s one had a 10ft header and the “big one” had a 12ft header. We just seemed to have more time in those days or maybe it’s just my rose tinted spectacles. 👓
Lovely bit of machinery Tom. 👍
Nice to see it working lovely old machine just need a 35 and 3t trailer with greedy boards then you would be farming 😎
That would be cool
Good view of the straw walkers.
good to see the old unit working
Dads first combine was a MF 735 bagger. No tank just 2 lads stood on a side board changing bags as they filled up.
Classic bit of kit bud 👌
That machine certainly sorts the wheat from the chaff 😅 Lovely old machine Mr Tom 🙂
Love your video tom
2:09 like me doing the first cut on my lawn when I know that I've left it a month too late. Gently does it! 😂
Looks like it could still do a days work !
still doing agood clean sample aliss gleaner great video
Don't forget to fold the auger away!!! ❤
Produces a very clean sample, what’s the losses like out the back in comparison to modern machines
That was really cool! Thanks! 🍷
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just fabulous, Nuffield said
Afternoon Tom
Great piece of vintage farming, lovely conserved Allis
I follow the Casterton Vintage youtube, are you aware/involved with vintage tractor group or showing
Geoff
Yes
What a clean sample
Bet you can't get a sample like out of ANY modern machines. Mind how you go Tom.
they recommend VIGZOL lubrication - essentially British. Actually a pretty cool logo.
Great to see one of Ron and Brian Knights restorations stretching her legs. Power Farming Ltd, Stamford. Empingham Road, Stamford if memory serves me correctly. The Pickworth Farm of Burghley Estate ran four Alis Chalmers combines one year in the 1960’s can’t remember which model they were. The estate changed their combines each year and had different brand combines depending where they got the best deal. Soon be the Great Casterton Vintage weekend on 20 September. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
@@Tomlamb980 Thank you. It brought back some memories for me Tom of when I lived just up the road from your farm. Nice to see the vintage machines which have been saved and actually put back into service. I love your mixed content, keep it up. 👍
Great straw quality
Great to see the old gear in use, could you do the whole harvest with her now? Or is it too much for her?
Far to much would take months
what an absolute unit!
Now we're classic farming 👍
Love seeing how all this shit works !
Now u need to get the biggest combine in the world on demo to show the past and present 🎉🎉
Well Tom you’ve passed yer apprenticeship on a proper combine. Now yer a proper farmer we a mucky face . Dam good video Tom 👌
Thanks 👍
Do the older harvesters lose any of the crop? Is there any wasted grain compared to the new machines?
Depends how there set up
Sounds like you need a gofundme page for a claas lexion rather than a roller door 😅
Yes please
Great video. How much grain is being lost out the sides of the machine? The images you showed of the sides seem to indicate wheat grains on every surface
None that’s chaff
Great to see it restored and actually used. Is it your family’s or a mate’s?
@@PaulRhB cousins
How much wheat gets “lost” in the separation?
Also another amazing video! Thank you so much for sharing
About 4/5%
Lovely to see
Lovely old piece of machinery. You don’t see many of those around do you, Tom?
You don’t
Retro farming 8' cut dusty noisy just like when I was a lad.
My uncle ran an Allis Gleaner AGCO Allis Gleaner Corporation.
Girl. I didn't know they made girl-o-matic transmissions in 1850.