I, personally, would write the inverter to the cord socket. For Me, that would make the most sense because I also have a 20kw diesel generator. It just gives options. You have come a long way, a lot more than I have. I've been following your work for 4 years now. Take Care and be safe, John
3:35 It's called a ring circuit. It was common when copper was expensive and wanted to increase the ampacity of the circuit without using larger diameter wires or cable.
AND... you can add an ATS in front of the MTS. This automatically switches between grid and powerwall/inverter power. You can use it in either direction. 1) You can use grid as 'generator' power and powerall as 'grid' power - in this case the grid will power things if grid is available and will auto-switch to powerwall if grid power goes off. 2) The alternative is grid is grid and powerall is generator - in this case, the powerwall will take over if it senses power coming from the inverter. I do this at my home - turning the inverter on when the powerwall charges up enough and then off as the powerwall drains to cut-off voltage. This let's me consume my off-grid power 'automatically' switching back and forth between powerwall and grid. Note: UPSs for computer/senstative circuits take care letting things run smoothly during switch overs between grid and powerwall.
This design reaffirms why I like the DIN rail style consumer units we have in the UK (and I assume Europe), as you can get DIN rail changeover switches that switch everything over with one switch, plus you get the benefits of the RCD/GFCIs and Circuit Breakers still being in the circuit while connected to the auxiliary power. I've even seen a Chinese made automatic switch which can do it for you but I don't know if I'd trust installing it to manage the power of my whole house.
Im proud of you jehu, i been watching you for about a year now and im glad to see youre growing a lot. Youre working really hard and you deserve even more blessings your way. Thanks for the knowledge. Peace
I wanna see an lto 66160 wall but they are pricey but 40ah with only 6 so really how many do you really need I wonder? How many would equal out to what you built? Same with the 38120's? So I have been buying them like crazy over the last few months. I've built three 64ah banks, one 48ah, and one 32ah bank. A pw is next up on the list. Dunno if I should go small cell or large cell to build it....
I have a question, on the Daly BMS. Have you used a smart one with Bluetooth and the other features? If so can you do a nice video of it. I’m doing a 8S System. Thanks and have been enjoying your videos.
I have one, and I love it. I just have it on a 4s, and it allows me to adjust everything perfectly to run a 12v inverter, perfect charging cutoff 16v. Love it.
The gen input is disconnected from grid tie and never get tied to grid. So you would be better to leave the plugin so in a emergency like you need to maintain your power wall for some reason and power goes out you still have option to tie something else in like another power wall or generator if needed right away. The UL approvals for a transfer switch is that an open plugin like that will never be live when not plugged in.
OK was wondering while watching if this was an ABT but you cleared that up by saying when the goes out, right, you manually switch over to the battery backup and switch back when the power comes back on, manually.
Not every home... I live in Tulsa, Ok and power is 10¢/Wh without peaking and here in the city I’ve had maybe 4hrs outage in the past 12/mo. I’ve been looking at natural gas generators, Oklahoma being a major natural gas producer and it being super cheap, but I could never justify the expense under current conditions.
Don't forget the PGE planned wildfire outages. Is the grid tie system your next video project. That is what I need. I have a Tesla Powerwall but it does not support my running the A/C and I can't see spending another 13 grand for another power wall. An additional 15-20KW grid tie battery system would be perfect. What batteries are you using for that so I can start accumulating them? If you have already done a video on starting please point me to it. Am I "That guy" :-)?
Hi there just a quick one. I'd leave the generator socket on the front and just plug in a plug with NO wire connection so that it is there if you need it
Jehu you should open a contest email account so that people can mail that inbox directly with answers that way as its a separate mailbox it would be easier for you to manage, just a suggestion hope it helps, keep up the energy (ha pun) love your content.
@@fezdk hmm... interesting. Cuz I've been looking everywhere and I could not find somewhere who sells them. All I found was either too big or just a basic electrical junction box.
I would rather have an inverter that can transfer between generator battery solar grid on its own, so im looking into hybrid inverters that can power all or most of the house all while being able to send power to or get power from the grid ( grid interactive) use generator power to compensate or charge while using solar/battery power, and have so.e sort of wiring i can use to controll a whole house transfer swicth
How often does your power go out so that you need to invest all that just to prevent it? If it is for sensitive equipment like PCs, there are already cheap UPSes, laptops are their own UPSes anyway... How much work do you need to do with your lift an power tools during those few moments than the power is out? Seems totally unnecessary...
Well here I am still in Face Book Jail. I gutted all modules and am testing all cells. Will reload the Modules as one 40 P cell. Configure them as 7S . If I was starting Fresh I would think about doing it this way.
Im sure it breaks the Electric Company's Heart to HAVE To Charge its Hostages More Money. 😂😂 I see Family members of the Rich Electric Company getting therapy for their guilt. 😂😂😂
Running appliances, including 3 phase equipment on 120/240v? Sounds terrible. Sure, works with single phase equipment, but 3-phase heaters, air conditioners, shop lighting? Something smells TERRIBLE about this. Should use 3-phase inverter with 3-phase supply....
@StringerNews1 definitely good points made. Yeah, delta configurations share the same neutral, I could only imagine what could happen in a situation like 1 of the fuses blew on the transformers: what kind of issues this configuration would cause if it was fired up or automated. I would like to see Jehu connect this thing properly.
Yes..... but this panel has no 3 phase equipment connected at least if the breakers are installed correctly. All of the single breakers will provide 120v to the loads same as house services. The Biggest problem Jehu May run into here, is if he has three phases sharing a single neutral(white). Because if he does, and connects all three phases to the single phase transfer switch, two of those loads will Double the neutral load instead of minimizing it. A fully good electrician would be able to know the difference and probably only a few circuits will need rewriting, as there are 11 neutrals, 17 individual hot conductors, and of those 4 go to single phase 208 loads which may not have a neutral needed
I purposely have not purchased a single thing until after you finish and all your videos are posted. Thanks for the cool project.
Only downside is, no more 16% off 4-6 packs.. order 4. .. and discount was like 4x 57=228. Tax/shipping was 250ish, then discount. Total 218..
@@richardle7469 too true. Maybe we can get another discount once he finishes everything.
I, personally, would write the inverter to the cord socket. For Me, that would make the most sense because I also have a 20kw diesel generator. It just gives options.
You have come a long way, a lot more than I have. I've been following your work for 4 years now.
Take Care and be safe, John
3:35 It's called a ring circuit. It was common when copper was expensive and wanted to increase the ampacity of the circuit without using larger diameter wires or cable.
Not under US NEC
AND... you can add an ATS in front of the MTS. This automatically switches between grid and powerwall/inverter power. You can use it in either direction. 1) You can use grid as 'generator' power and powerall as 'grid' power - in this case the grid will power things if grid is available and will auto-switch to powerwall if grid power goes off. 2) The alternative is grid is grid and powerall is generator - in this case, the powerwall will take over if it senses power coming from the inverter. I do this at my home - turning the inverter on when the powerwall charges up enough and then off as the powerwall drains to cut-off voltage. This let's me consume my off-grid power 'automatically' switching back and forth between powerwall and grid. Note: UPSs for computer/senstative circuits take care letting things run smoothly during switch overs between grid and powerwall.
This design reaffirms why I like the DIN rail style consumer units we have in the UK (and I assume Europe), as you can get DIN rail changeover switches that switch everything over with one switch, plus you get the benefits of the RCD/GFCIs and Circuit Breakers still being in the circuit while connected to the auxiliary power. I've even seen a Chinese made automatic switch which can do it for you but I don't know if I'd trust installing it to manage the power of my whole house.
Im proud of you jehu, i been watching you for about a year now and im glad to see youre growing a lot. Youre working really hard and you deserve even more blessings your way. Thanks for the knowledge. Peace
Thanks Jehu, appreciate your time an versos very much. Have a great Easter weekend. M
I have been thinking about purchasing a couple of these battery modules, but I need to know it's weight and size. Thanks
Hey dude, big fan of your channel. Looking to shift some of my mushroom farm onto batteries, and your videos are really inspirational! Thanks
@jehugarcia aren’t you worried about cooling and stacking the cells this dense ?
No
I wanna see an lto 66160 wall but they are pricey but 40ah with only 6 so really how many do you really need I wonder? How many would equal out to what you built? Same with the 38120's? So I have been buying them like crazy over the last few months. I've built three 64ah banks, one 48ah, and one 32ah bank. A pw is next up on the list. Dunno if I should go small cell or large cell to build it....
I have a question, on the Daly BMS. Have you used a smart one with Bluetooth and the other features? If so can you do a nice video of it. I’m doing a 8S System. Thanks and have been enjoying your videos.
I have one, and I love it. I just have it on a 4s, and it allows me to adjust everything perfectly to run a 12v inverter, perfect charging cutoff 16v. Love it.
The gen input is disconnected from grid tie and never get tied to grid. So you would be better to leave the plugin so in a emergency like you need to maintain your power wall for some reason and power goes out you still have option to tie something else in like another power wall or generator if needed right away. The UL approvals for a transfer switch is that an open plugin like that will never be live when not plugged in.
OK was wondering while watching if this was an ABT but you cleared that up by saying when the goes out, right, you manually switch over to the battery backup and switch back when the power comes back on, manually.
Do you have a source for the 10S BMS leads ?
Not every home... I live in Tulsa, Ok and power is 10¢/Wh without peaking and here in the city I’ve had maybe 4hrs outage in the past 12/mo. I’ve been looking at natural gas generators, Oklahoma being a major natural gas producer and it being super cheap, but I could never justify the expense under current conditions.
Don't forget the PGE planned wildfire outages. Is the grid tie system your next video project. That is what I need. I have a Tesla Powerwall but it does not support my running the A/C and I can't see spending another 13 grand for another power wall. An additional 15-20KW grid tie battery system would be perfect. What batteries are you using for that so I can start accumulating them? If you have already done a video on starting please point me to it. Am I "That guy" :-)?
Is that not 3 phase so you would get 208volt not 240
Hi there just a quick one. I'd leave the generator socket on the front and just plug in a plug with NO wire connection so that it is there if you need it
Hey do you have a link for 48v grid tie inverter or inverter/charger
Jehu you should open a contest email account so that people can mail that inbox directly with answers that way as its a separate mailbox it would be easier for you to manage, just a suggestion hope it helps, keep up the energy (ha pun) love your content.
What you need is a correctly sized transfer switch. Find the total amps you would draw. Then people pull you critical loads to a critical loaf
Dont a UPS already have automatic transfer switch?
A main Inline UPS, yes.
I got 8 packs, now just waiting on big bms for it.. might have to use buck converter 36v to 24v
Hola jehu como está q bonito proyecto me gustaría uno como lo está haciendo
Have you done a video for a whole house off the grid battery and solar system? I’d love to see one.
Would like to install a power wall here in Canada as our electrical bill also has time of day rates.
I want to know where he gets those metal enclosures at.
I'm pretty sure he said in another video, that he bought sheets of metal and bent it out to the enclosure.
@@fezdk hmm... interesting. Cuz I've been looking everywhere and I could not find somewhere who sells them. All I found was either too big or just a basic electrical junction box.
@@TriableMilk09 yeah he buys the metal then cuts them and everything
any large electrical supply house can give you various brand catalogues for all size enclosures.
Love the buses
Get an AIMS 12.000 watt 48 volt low frequency split phase inverter .
Great job!
How does not this feed back power to the grid now.
if we called solar something like photon farming or another catchy term maybe people would get more interested lol
I would rather have an inverter that can transfer between generator battery solar grid on its own, so im looking into hybrid inverters that can power all or most of the house all while being able to send power to or get power from the grid ( grid interactive) use generator power to compensate or charge while using solar/battery power, and have so.e sort of wiring i can use to controll a whole house transfer swicth
ugggg i need those metal boxes!!! where do i get those?! :)
Where is your Weekly Monday Q and A 7pm Live stream?
How often does your power go out so that you need to invest all that just to prevent it? If it is for sensitive equipment like PCs, there are already cheap UPSes, laptops are their own UPSes anyway... How much work do you need to do with your lift an power tools during those few moments than the power is out? Seems totally unnecessary...
why not build automatic switch
Well here I am still in Face Book Jail.
I gutted all modules and am testing all cells.
Will reload the Modules as one 40 P cell.
Configure them as 7S .
If I was starting Fresh I would think about doing it this way.
I was thinking that fire extinguisher should be moved so you don't have to go into the fire to grab it..🤔
Going Green 👍
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where can i buy legit and good quality batteries?
Jag35.com
Why not just power your whole workshop with solar in an off-grid configuration?
Solar in a leased commercial building?
Also $$$ and he’s basically time shifting his consumption like a DVR.
Buy low and use high!!!
@@peterg.8245 Didn't know he was leasing the location. I understand the kWh peak pricing concerns.
Im sure it breaks the Electric Company's Heart to HAVE To Charge its Hostages More Money. 😂😂 I see Family members of the Rich Electric Company getting therapy for their guilt. 😂😂😂
I have the answer to your question
Answer Sent - WobBor
#14 wire is good for 15 amps. #12 wire is good for 20 amps.
I found the answer and messaged you on facebook
I sent you a dm on Facebook with the answer ☺️
Stereo mic? Right ear ain't happy.
I think I have the answer
Running appliances, including 3 phase equipment on 120/240v? Sounds terrible. Sure, works with single phase equipment, but 3-phase heaters, air conditioners, shop lighting? Something smells TERRIBLE about this. Should use 3-phase inverter with 3-phase supply....
@StringerNews1 definitely good points made. Yeah, delta configurations share the same neutral, I could only imagine what could happen in a situation like 1 of the fuses blew on the transformers: what kind of issues this configuration would cause if it was fired up or automated.
I would like to see Jehu connect this thing properly.
Yes..... but this panel has no 3 phase equipment connected at least if the breakers are installed correctly. All of the single breakers will provide 120v to the loads same as house services.
The Biggest problem Jehu May run into here, is if he has three phases sharing a single neutral(white).
Because if he does, and connects all three phases to the single phase transfer switch, two of those loads will Double the neutral load instead of minimizing it. A fully good electrician would be able to know the difference and probably only a few circuits will need rewriting, as there are 11 neutrals, 17 individual hot conductors, and of those 4 go to single phase 208 loads which may not have a neutral needed
I don't know why your building this power wall you were suppose to make a video using your pcb's 😡
I’m building many things
You are doing too much work