Ngl I like seeing him as a good guy. He wasn’t humble or anything, but he did seem to have his heart in the right place. He’s regarded as a fallen hero by all including Optimus.
Same I would spend the money but it won't happen because of some license issues I can't remember the exact details but I would love a remastered of war for cybertron
Its kinda interesting how he was retroactively made into Sentinel Prime through a retcon then TFOne decided to make them into separate characters again.
Its not a retcon because its a seperate continuity. Also they wanted to not make Orion secretly a reincarnated prime and I prefer that over the aligned version for all the good it has
I don’t think alot people realize that in the Aligned continuity, this *IS* both Sentinel Prime and Zeta Prime His full official name is Sentinel Zeta Prime
I remember playing this as a kid and thinking "Who the hell is this guy supposed to be?" I still ask myself that question because I thought Optimus was the leader of the autobots, not this random weirdo. But then you kill this guy and Optimus becomes the leader? Why wasn't he the leader before? Great game, but that never made sense to me.
The games didn't really do a great job outlining that tbh. The Autobots are Cybertron's military-- not a faction to be sided with, at least not before the war. The same way countries have police forces, Cybertron had the Autobots, Elite Guard, Seeker Armada, etc. Anyway, Zeta Prime wasn't made Prime by the Matrix. He was made Prime by the Council. The Matrix is an ancient artifact provided to the one who would save Cybertron and lead its people to a brighter future. Obviously Zeta dies and Optimus seeks out the Matrix to become Cybertron's hero. The Council deems him Prime prior to that.
@@thebrandonrobert5693 Hmmm... Thats interesting. That means Transformers is one of the few pieces of media where the rebels (Decepticons) are portrayed as the bad guys. I was re-watching the council cutscene and I noticed that one of the council guys said that the primes were usually succumbing to pride and greed. If the decepticons are rebelling because they think the autobots are corrupt. Wouldn't that make them right considering even the council dude admitted it? Sorry, my transformers lore is very rusty. Its been a while since I was last invested in this franchise.
They retroactively named him Sentinel Zeta Prime. I choose to believe Sentinel Prime is separate and died early on, when Megs was starting his rebellion. Then the Council named Zeta as the next Prime. As they did in the IDW comics which greatly influenced the canon of this era of TF. Sentinel could have been red and orange like his Titans Return toy and IDW incarnation when that toy was released. While this version of Zeta had the standard blue and yellow that is Sentinel’s color scheme since G1 with the then unnamed U-Haul robot in “Five Faces of Darkness.” Virtually all stories about the rise of Megatron *begins* with the death of Sentinel Prime. It doesn’t happen partway, let alone near the Exodus. Because it was Sentinel’s regime that made D-16 into Megatron. The miner into the gladiator. The poet into the conquerer. They recently did this again with Transformers ONE. Tho events differed slightly. Sentinel must fall for Megatron to Rise. Zeta is just an optional in-between him and Optimus. Personally I prefer it goes with the Thirteen, who vanish from the world for one reason or another, then Nova Prime rises and begins expanding the Cybertronian Empire to other worlds, who is lost in the Dead Universe (or some other fate that corrupts him), the Quintessons arrive and deceive Cybertron and Sentinel is named Prime when he successfully leads the rebellion against him, his corruption leads to Megatron killing him, Zeta is named as Prime by the council so that they can project strength and order as the Decepticon movement causes more civil unrest, Zeta is defeated by the Decepticons. During Zeta Prime’s regime, Orion is damaged like in G1 by Megatron. He is rebuilt by Alpha Trion to fight the Decepticons. And not only accepts the mantle of Prime by the council, he is proven to be the first TRUE Prime since the first 13. He is also the reincarnation of the forgot 13th member, The Arisen, who chose to join the Well of Allsparks and return one day. The council disbands and leaves on the Exodus ships. But one day, when the war is over, a new council is elected. Optimus chooses to more or less retire but be vigilant should their world need him again. Ideally this new council would have war heroes. Ratchet, Bumblebee, Ironhide, etc. but it’s not necessary.
The Aligned continuity never completely "aligned"; it was said to have only passed the "squint test". The Cybertron games, the novels, the cartoons, and the Covenant of Primus took different paths from each other. Transformers Prime showed Megatron being infusing with Dark Energon for the first time even though it would have already happened twice before if you took the games as a literal word for word prequel, once in WFC when he first obtained it and again in FOC when Soundwave used it to jump start Megatron back to life after rebuilding him after he was crushed to death by Metroplex. Prime and the Cybertron games are only loosely aligned.
@@videogollumer I totally agree. The lore of the Primes and how the war started can be the same but in general Prime and the WFC series should be separate canons.
None of that is relevant. He was always intended to be Sentinel Prime, his name is even in the concept art as “Sentinel Prime”. Whether you want to believe it or not, Zeta Prime is Sentinel Prime. The only good variant.
I think you missed a brief Zeta Prime moment in the 2nd Decepticon Mission, just at the beginning when Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp take on the Autobots the first time.
They needed 13 names and probably took those with least backstory as they would be dead anyway. That leaves more interesting primes for the future use.
@@bluebird1194I’m glad cuz they’re usually interchangeable but most versions with zeta were chill while sentinel was an asshole, so it’s cool they’re separate in TF one
@@alandavidarrietanunez9959wrong, the war started when Megatron ambushed Sentinel Prime and The Senate. Then, Zeta claimed the title of Prime, and he fought the decepticons.
Ngl I like seeing him as a good guy. He wasn’t humble or anything, but he did seem to have his heart in the right place. He’s regarded as a fallen hero by all including Optimus.
i want these games remastered
I agree.
Same I would spend the money but it won't happen because of some license issues I can't remember the exact details but I would love a remastered of war for cybertron
@@codybearden3091 Licenses can be renewed. The problem being Activison apparently lost some important files for the games
We all do son
Eventually
I like how Megatron and Zeta Prime kept trash talking each other like in your average COD lobby
Its kinda interesting how he was retroactively made into Sentinel Prime through a retcon then TFOne decided to make them into separate characters again.
TF one is not part of this continuity
@@alumlovescakethey didnt say it was
Its not a retcon because its a seperate continuity.
Also they wanted to not make Orion secretly a reincarnated prime and I prefer that over the aligned version for all the good it has
I like how the Omega Keys in TFP resemble the shape of the Omega Key here
Well same continuity slight changes
@@martinnavarrete5279 Yeah, just wish TFP had more references to the story beats in the cybertron games
Suck they are connected, tfp got ruined with their “unicron” story line
Both medias weren’t supposed to connect to one another despite both being in the same Continuity the “Aligned Continuity”
Watching this game makes me miss my Xbox 360 even more
Imagine if Zeta Prime survived, he would be a good friend to Optimus and be the co-leader of the Autobots.
I don’t think alot people realize that in the Aligned continuity, this *IS* both Sentinel Prime and Zeta Prime
His full official name is Sentinel Zeta Prime
No, in almost all continuities, Zeta was Sentinel's second in command.
@ I'm not talking about commander wise I'm talking CHARACTER wise
In the end Megatron always shows Sentinel who is the boss
I remember playing this as a kid and thinking "Who the hell is this guy supposed to be?" I still ask myself that question because I thought Optimus was the leader of the autobots, not this random weirdo. But then you kill this guy and Optimus becomes the leader? Why wasn't he the leader before? Great game, but that never made sense to me.
The games didn't really do a great job outlining that tbh. The Autobots are Cybertron's military-- not a faction to be sided with, at least not before the war. The same way countries have police forces, Cybertron had the Autobots, Elite Guard, Seeker Armada, etc.
Anyway, Zeta Prime wasn't made Prime by the Matrix. He was made Prime by the Council. The Matrix is an ancient artifact provided to the one who would save Cybertron and lead its people to a brighter future. Obviously Zeta dies and Optimus seeks out the Matrix to become Cybertron's hero. The Council deems him Prime prior to that.
@@thebrandonrobert5693 Hmmm... Thats interesting. That means Transformers is one of the few pieces of media where the rebels (Decepticons) are portrayed as the bad guys.
I was re-watching the council cutscene and I noticed that one of the council guys said that the primes were usually succumbing to pride and greed. If the decepticons are rebelling because they think the autobots are corrupt. Wouldn't that make them right considering even the council dude admitted it? Sorry, my transformers lore is very rusty. Its been a while since I was last invested in this franchise.
It's sentinel prime
@@tommysawhill613 Sentinel Zeta Prime to be exact. The dude that died to create Orion Pax ererererer Optimus Prime
He's the top boss of the autobots while optimus is merely a general.
They retroactively named him Sentinel Zeta Prime. I choose to believe Sentinel Prime is separate and died early on, when Megs was starting his rebellion. Then the Council named Zeta as the next Prime. As they did in the IDW comics which greatly influenced the canon of this era of TF.
Sentinel could have been red and orange like his Titans Return toy and IDW incarnation when that toy was released. While this version of Zeta had the standard blue and yellow that is Sentinel’s color scheme since G1 with the then unnamed U-Haul robot in “Five Faces of Darkness.”
Virtually all stories about the rise of Megatron *begins* with the death of Sentinel Prime. It doesn’t happen partway, let alone near the Exodus. Because it was Sentinel’s regime that made D-16 into Megatron. The miner into the gladiator. The poet into the conquerer.
They recently did this again with Transformers ONE. Tho events differed slightly. Sentinel must fall for Megatron to Rise. Zeta is just an optional in-between him and Optimus.
Personally I prefer it goes with the Thirteen, who vanish from the world for one reason or another, then Nova Prime rises and begins expanding the Cybertronian Empire to other worlds, who is lost in the Dead Universe (or some other fate that corrupts him), the Quintessons arrive and deceive Cybertron and Sentinel is named Prime when he successfully leads the rebellion against him, his corruption leads to Megatron killing him, Zeta is named as Prime by the council so that they can project strength and order as the Decepticon movement causes more civil unrest, Zeta is defeated by the Decepticons.
During Zeta Prime’s regime, Orion is damaged like in G1 by Megatron. He is rebuilt by Alpha Trion to fight the Decepticons. And not only accepts the mantle of Prime by the council, he is proven to be the first TRUE Prime since the first 13. He is also the reincarnation of the forgot 13th member, The Arisen, who chose to join the Well of Allsparks and return one day. The council disbands and leaves on the Exodus ships. But one day, when the war is over, a new council is elected. Optimus chooses to more or less retire but be vigilant should their world need him again.
Ideally this new council would have war heroes. Ratchet, Bumblebee, Ironhide, etc. but it’s not necessary.
I enjoyed reading this entire thing, very concise
The Aligned continuity never completely "aligned"; it was said to have only passed the "squint test". The Cybertron games, the novels, the cartoons, and the Covenant of Primus took different paths from each other. Transformers Prime showed Megatron being infusing with Dark Energon for the first time even though it would have already happened twice before if you took the games as a literal word for word prequel, once in WFC when he first obtained it and again in FOC when Soundwave used it to jump start Megatron back to life after rebuilding him after he was crushed to death by Metroplex. Prime and the Cybertron games are only loosely aligned.
@@videogollumer I totally agree. The lore of the Primes and how the war started can be the same but in general Prime and the WFC series should be separate canons.
Basically my headcanon now 😂
None of that is relevant. He was always intended to be Sentinel Prime, his name is even in the concept art as “Sentinel Prime”.
Whether you want to believe it or not, Zeta Prime is Sentinel Prime. The only good variant.
Zeta's voice reminds The Most David Kaye-ish Evil Prime 🗿
That Troy baker who voiced Steeljaw.
I think you missed a brief Zeta Prime moment in the 2nd Decepticon Mission, just at the beginning when Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp take on the Autobots the first time.
Cant believe they actually made him into a Prime in Transformers One
They needed 13 names and probably took those with least backstory as they would be dead anyway. That leaves more interesting primes for the future use.
Lowkey I fw Zeta being a 13 then the whole aligned reincarnated unnamed 13th being Optimus
@wojciechwerner8787 I mean they gave each primes unique designs. Hell they put them all on cards.
@@Akuma12366 Zeta is no longer a weird Sentinal clone.
@@bluebird1194I’m glad cuz they’re usually interchangeable but most versions with zeta were chill while sentinel was an asshole, so it’s cool they’re separate in TF one
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Hey, Zeta Prime is lucky that it was Megatron who took him down, not his own assistant! (Iyk,yk)
This continuity mixed both Zeta and Sentinel into one character, actually his full name is: Sentinel Zeta Prime
@@alandavidarrietanunez9959wrong, the war started when Megatron ambushed Sentinel Prime and The Senate. Then, Zeta claimed the title of Prime, and he fought the decepticons.
Prefer Zeta Prime to his Sentinel appearances. He’s still imperfect, but to a much less narcissistic degree.
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You can tell Zeta’s a pretty weak Prime when killing him wasn’t even Megatron’s main objective
Fun fact: zeta is the villain of dark of the moon
He isn’t. I don’t know how you came to that conclusion.
Have you not seen the movie?
He is!!
@@stemi67 That’s Sentinel Prime.
Zeta Prime is Sentinel Prime!!!!!!
@@stemi67 Not in the movies he isn’t. He is in the “Aligned” continuity, which the games are (supposed to be) a part of.
Is zeta prime a good guy in this game?
Yes, he is a good guy. He’s the leader of the Autobots and he has Optimus’ respect.
He isn't some perfect guy and he is not even a real prime but he isn't a bad person
Ah no he's a real prime in this game I think confusing him for sentinel prime from transformers one
@@Jackp18-f5u He’s not technically a real Prime since he wasn’t chosen by Primus or the Matrix.
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