The Dupont Station for the Laurel Line was on top of the wall. It went down Laurel Street. Crossed Williams street. There is a right of way barricade on Williams street. Several homes have Gardensplanted between the tracks that are still there.
17:30 they probably didn't remove the ties. In NY they're toxic waste, but in PA you can use them however you wish, and somebody probably "borrowed" them for retaining walls or posts or whatever.
JP, you are one of the few explorers that actually try to find real facts about the places you find. As always, you found some really interesting items. Never a dull video. Loved it.
Cool find. It looks wide enough for two lines I would think. I saw other comments saying it was a passenger line. I wonder if there was a small traction company park that ran along the side where you found the terraces. The different shapes and sizes could have been for different rides and concessions. Thanks for taking us along.
I live a right by there. I will recommend maybe looking into the bridge just down the road (that leads into Avoca) it crosses a train track. Idk for certain but was told that crossing is a big deal in the past as it had several bridges in one area. Maybe something worth looking into? I know quite a few of the areas local to this that you have visited and may have a few others to recommend for you to check out. Thanks for exploring and showing off some of the remains of the history of our area! Love the content.
at 24:10, there is a structure to your left in the old black and white map (away from the homes) with a path connecting. Any chance you are going back.., haha. Great vid, you are the best.
The "basin" near the 31 minute mark is a sediment basin probably used for the development. The wooden wall is a baffle used to increase the length to width ratio of the basin, this should have been removed when construction concluded. The debris cage and metal piping is the sediment basin riser which is supposed to be removed once construction is complete. The concrete structure that the riser structure was connected to is the permanent detention basin control structure. The water goes out of the basin through the pipe that goes into the ground on the opposite side of the riser structure. I design these for a living.
JP, this is what i often did in central NY as the remnants of 3 Erie Canals and many old RR sites fill the section along NY Rt31 between Clyde and Elbridge NY. The oldest canals were higher up and had a nifty water feeder and drainage design. These work so well they still fill and spill. Similar to my explorations, you keep running into old feeder ponds (natural and man-made). Some are fed by long, gently curving “raceways” from local streams. Day trip on that section of NY RT31 highly recommended.
23:17 probably the opposite. The railroad pulled the rails from the line on the left while still operating the line on the right. Those ties rotted and became worthless. When they pulled the rails on the right, those ties were still in good condition and somebody reused them. I saw this same thing on the NYO&W line going up from the north to Highview Tunnel.
Isn't it funny how the greatest and most interesting finds are hidden right under our noses. Really awesome find. As we followed you down the old rail line, you could almost hear the old train whistle blowing. I'll bet it was really cool back in its time. Take care and God bless. Steve in Oklahoma
Awesome, roadside find, abandoned rail and old structures! Really would be cool to know what used to be there! Really let's the mind wonder! The walls and those drain pipes were cool! Awesome adventure JP! Thanks for bringing us along!
It's alway's cool to find out something was once in a location ...sad it's gone.... but to put the history together is alway's fun .I think there was 2 lines there as well ...I loved the pictures at the end !! Rolos....Hershey's kisses 😂😂😂 great video as alway's !! 👍👍
Great video. Yes, the Laurel Line ran north crossing over the very long bride you pointed out and ran behind Avoca, crossed under Vine Street and over Plane Street where the Avoca terminal was.
JP I thought the drainage pipes were interesting to see, but they were blocked. There must have been high water coming through there, but they are not functional. Very interesting finds 👍👍👍👍
A plethora of intriguing finds in this video! Who would have thought... It looked so inconspicuous from the road side. It's almost like an outdoor mystery museum; first you have to find the things and then you have to guess what it is and how it all connects. -Great explore, JP!
Wow, hiding in plain sight is a great description. This was so awesome! Looks to me like it was a double line, it sure seemed wide enough. 😂Chocolate candies! Not to sample! 😂 What a wonderful adventure and amazing discoveries. The ruins are fascinating, it seems like they would have been buildings once, but maybe it was a park with that ramp and so forth. it would be so interesting to find out exactly what they were. Great video JP, thank you!
JP I live in Old Forge and only explored the west mountain that are near me I have driven by that area many time in my life but never knew what was there. 😮Thanks for showing that area.
I know of several other bridge abutments you might want to check out. One is up the hill from the Geisinger offices up the hill from Sheetz in Scranton. It's right along the active rail line. The other is near the river in the hillside near the newer car wash along Main Avenue in Old Forge.
Been watching a lot of your videos lately JP! This place reminds me of the megaliths we see on ancient aliens in modern form, I love seeing the way the early 20th century places like this were laid out and built, really cool!
How fascinating! So much history. I wonder if those different levels were some kind of fountain. That pipe sticking up makes me think that...Maybe a possible old spring that went dry? It's a head scratcher. ✌
You can clearly see the double track in the old photos. You will note a thin light colored area delineating the two dark colored lines (tracks). Further, if you look at the site of the bridge you started in the beginning of the video, you can also see that there are two individual bridge structures with different starting points. Once you gained initial access up on the railbed at the start, the cut in the rocks on the backside of the rail line appears to be a man made cut sloping upwards tot he rail bed whcih may have been work access for maintenance or for the original construction.
Best book on this line is Edward S. Miller's book on the L&WV. Should be in most local libraries...he lived in Pittston and was the expert on traction lines in the area.
Looking at the pipes at 47:42 I wonder if those are also mine vents. I was looking at the retaining wall with the gaps in it, they sure looked to thin to hold back much water.
The pond and walls were probably from the road construction as a temporary sediment basin for all the earthwork moving. The cage is called a trash rack in the stormwater design world. The disconnected pipe and box appears to be way to spread out the stormwater runoff. Instead of a concentrated discharge point that would create erosion.
Another very interesting video. So glad to find out thanks to Chuck who left a comment that it was part of the old Laurel Line. Was always curious were it went. I know you uncovered ruins farther up some time age. Hard to believe the ruins you just found are 70 yrs old. I know the Laurel Line ceased operations in 1952. I love railroad history thanks for exploring it so much.
It looks like a 2 rail line site. Back in the day I wouldn't jump the gap on a dirt bike. That's scary.... What a crazy area of dangers. I although enjoyed this trip. Thanks! For sharing this trip. I'll skip the chocolate candy. 😂
Hi Jay, it is so interesting literally chasing history to see what was going on there back in the day, it was a really cool hike and enough still remains to tell the story of what was once there. Thank you for sharing, much love. xx 💞
JP- my thinking is that those curved steps near the end of the video were stairs. I'm guessing there was a station at the top and people needed to climb those wide steps to get up there. The ramps were there to make it easier to push baggage from street level to the top. I'm going to have to do some more research as the Laurel line is an interurban that I'm not too familiar with.
Wandering in the woods in Northern Ohio, we would run across old structures, pipes and ties. At the time and being a kid, the rail history of the state wasn't something on my radar. It was just adventure for us. Now thanks to many channels, I'm very certain that we ran across just one of dozens of defunct rail companies and their lines from a century past. Amazing how rail lines criss-crossed just about everywhere, servicing small towns and businesses on narrow-gauge, until they were ultimately merged with or bought up by the larger companies.
There is something similar not far from where I live and wondered why it was there. It turned out to be an abandoned railroad line and there was a railroad trestle at that location where the road would have gone underneath the trestle.
The county seat records rooms for the county you're exploring may very well have pictures, etc. of the old industries. An old picture may help you put things into the proper perspective, as to what was what and where. Nice footage.
this is the old lural line dupont station just north up the line right before where the old bridge would be there would be a second station strickly for the miners
I do not know this area at all. But you said there was a coal breaker there. That usually means 1 or more coal mines may be close by. Finding a crack with air coming out could be a vent for a coal mine. Just a thought.
chocolate candies look like chocolate chips lol it's deer poop. Very interesting exploration. The heights always bother me tho. Imagine seeing this or the abandoned trestle with a VR viewer. on pc..OMG. I'd probably fall off my chair 😂😮
I had a second thought. Those levels could be for an audience where people brought there own chairs or blankets. I can't think of what the entertainment would have been.
Great video. I wish you had a light for that first crevasse you put the camera in. Did the air have that mine air smell? I’m guessing not or you would have mentioned a mine. Question 🙋♂️ Your videos are so smooth and steady. Is that from the internal stabilization of the camera or is your camera also on a gimbal? Thanks.
@@cruikshank this was filmed on the DJI Osmo Action 3 which has built in stabilization called Rocksteady. It's like using a gimbal without needing one.
Maybe that wood wall was originally inteneded to be part of a form for pouring concrete, but for whatever reason the project stopped and what had been assembled was just left to rot
It's looking like that concrete Tower is your first defense that still was your last defense everything you're showing looks like it could have been an actual Creek or a major area for a water runoff
Love the flat stacked stone retaining.. wall ..So many interesting finds. I love a mystery and am so curious as to what those "foundations" with the little ramp etc. were for ... a roadside park maybe ?. would love to know . Thank you so much for sharing the fun . ( I found some of those little "chocolate " pellets in our back yard last week . Couldn't decide if we had been visited by a rabbit or a deer LOL ) 🐰🦌
Thank you. From those who cant explore anymore.
I wish JP worked in Western PA. I moved away decades ago, but it would be fun to see some of the old out-of-the-way places there.
The Dupont Station for the Laurel Line was on top of the wall. It went down Laurel Street. Crossed Williams street. There is a right of way barricade on Williams street. Several homes have Gardensplanted between the tracks that are still there.
Interesting information. Thanks for sharing
17:30 they probably didn't remove the ties. In NY they're toxic waste, but in PA you can use them however you wish, and somebody probably "borrowed" them for retaining walls or posts or whatever.
JP, you are one of the few explorers that actually try to find real facts about the places you find. As always, you found some really interesting items. Never a dull video. Loved it.
The real facts are very interesting so I'm always interested in learning what I can.
Cool find. It looks wide enough for two lines I would think. I saw other comments saying it was a passenger line. I wonder if there was a small traction company park that ran along the side where you found the terraces. The different shapes and sizes could have been for different rides and concessions. Thanks for taking us along.
if you watch enough of your videos, you might end up thinking that pennsylvania is a big vacant lot full of amazing antique finds.
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It's amazing what's right in front of us is missed so frequently. Great video and exploration.
Absolutely true
I live a right by there. I will recommend maybe looking into the bridge just down the road (that leads into Avoca) it crosses a train track. Idk for certain but was told that crossing is a big deal in the past as it had several bridges in one area. Maybe something worth looking into? I know quite a few of the areas local to this that you have visited and may have a few others to recommend for you to check out. Thanks for exploring and showing off some of the remains of the history of our area! Love the content.
at 24:10, there is a structure to your left in the old black and white map (away from the homes) with a path connecting. Any chance you are going back.., haha. Great vid, you are the best.
You are an explorer, for sure! The stories & ideas are fascinating! Thank you for taking us along. Stay safe.
I also love walking abandoned rail lines! I’ve searched quite a few great job
The "basin" near the 31 minute mark is a sediment basin probably used for the development. The wooden wall is a baffle used to increase the length to width ratio of the basin, this should have been removed when construction concluded. The debris cage and metal piping is the sediment basin riser which is supposed to be removed once construction is complete. The concrete structure that the riser structure was connected to is the permanent detention basin control structure. The water goes out of the basin through the pipe that goes into the ground on the opposite side of the riser structure. I design these for a living.
Thanks for sharing
That's really cool! (Insider info lol 😊) You must know where some really awesome places are ;)
What an exciting adventure! Very interesting and boggling. The imagination continues to wonder! Loved this! 👍❤️
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JP, this is what i often did in central NY as the remnants of 3 Erie Canals and many old RR sites fill the section along NY Rt31 between Clyde and Elbridge NY. The oldest canals were higher up and had a nifty water feeder and drainage design. These work so well they still fill and spill. Similar to my explorations, you keep running into old feeder ponds (natural and man-made). Some are fed by long, gently curving “raceways” from local streams. Day trip on that section of NY RT31 highly recommended.
23:17 probably the opposite. The railroad pulled the rails from the line on the left while still operating the line on the right. Those ties rotted and became worthless. When they pulled the rails on the right, those ties were still in good condition and somebody reused them. I saw this same thing on the NYO&W line going up from the north to Highview Tunnel.
Makes sense
Isn't it funny how the greatest and most interesting finds are hidden right under our noses. Really awesome find. As we followed you down the old rail line, you could almost hear the old train whistle blowing. I'll bet it was really cool back in its time. Take care and God bless.
Steve in Oklahoma
great video , has me wondering how many things i might be driving by and never really notice ..looking forward to the next adventure
Start looking and you may find something hiding
Awesome, roadside find, abandoned rail and old structures! Really would be cool to know what used to be there! Really let's the mind wonder! The walls and those drain pipes were cool! Awesome adventure JP! Thanks for bringing us along!
Great history hike! Love your videos!
It's alway's cool to find out something was once in a location ...sad it's gone.... but to put the history together is alway's fun .I think there was 2 lines there as well ...I loved the pictures at the end !! Rolos....Hershey's kisses 😂😂😂 great video as alway's !! 👍👍
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A very neat video. Looks like it could have been double track at one time. Possibly the concrete could have been a mini golf course.
Such a cool exploration. Come back to that location so we can see more..
Great video. Yes, the Laurel Line ran north crossing over the very long bride you pointed out and ran behind Avoca, crossed under Vine Street and over Plane Street where the Avoca terminal was.
I followed much of it by Rocky Glen, but it was great to see another section of it.
JP I thought the drainage pipes were interesting to see, but they were blocked. There must have been high water coming through there, but they are not functional. Very interesting finds 👍👍👍👍
Nice exploring vidio,enjoyed it very much.!!!
Could your 'find' with the ramp been a previous picnic area?? A pull off with perhaps a few covered tables etc
I confirmed it was a small mini golf location
@@JPVideos81 oops thanks!
That is what I thought it might be, but it seemed like too much of a long shot...mini golf!
Yeah JP I Also Love ol rail lines n stations Discover
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A plethora of intriguing finds in this video! Who would have thought... It looked so inconspicuous from the road side. It's almost like an outdoor mystery museum; first you have to find the things and then you have to guess what it is and how it all connects. -Great explore, JP!
My favorite kind of adventure
Wow, hiding in plain sight is a great description. This was so awesome! Looks to me like it was a double line, it sure seemed wide enough. 😂Chocolate candies! Not to sample! 😂 What a wonderful adventure and amazing discoveries. The ruins are fascinating, it seems like they would have been buildings once, but maybe it was a park with that ramp and so forth. it would be so interesting to find out exactly what they were. Great video JP, thank you!
I found out that it was a mini golf place. I never would have imagined that!
@@JPVideos81 Thank you! I never would have imagined that either JP! What an awesome discovery!
Great 👍😎 TH-cam All videos and good health
What about a hillside station for the railroad? I’ve seen such station sites on Jawtooth’s videos before.
JP I live in Old Forge and only explored the west mountain that are near me I have driven by that area many time in my life but never knew what was there. 😮Thanks for showing that area.
Lots to see in the area. Thanks for checking it out.
4:50 they aren't "kinda like railroad ties". They ARE railroad ties. See the spike holes and tie plate impression?
Great find Jason really enjoyed the adventure👍
Thanks Russ
Another great exploration JP, amazing what is just beyond the tree line as we drive by daily
I know of several other bridge abutments you might want to check out. One is up the hill from the Geisinger offices up the hill from Sheetz in Scranton. It's right along the active rail line. The other is near the river in the hillside near the newer car wash along Main Avenue in Old Forge.
Been watching a lot of your videos lately JP! This place reminds me of the megaliths we see on ancient aliens in modern form, I love seeing the way the early 20th century places like this were laid out and built, really cool!
How fascinating! So much history. I wonder if those different levels were some kind of fountain. That pipe sticking up makes me think that...Maybe a possible old spring that went dry? It's a head scratcher. ✌
Turns out it was a mini golf course from the 1960s
@@JPVideos81 What!!!! Really...that is pretty cool. Lol
Loved this ! I always wanted to walk around up there
You can clearly see the double track in the old photos. You will note a thin light colored area delineating the two dark colored lines (tracks). Further, if you look at the site of the bridge you started in the beginning of the video, you can also see that there are two individual bridge structures with different starting points.
Once you gained initial access up on the railbed at the start, the cut in the rocks on the backside of the rail line appears to be a man made cut sloping upwards tot he rail bed whcih may have been work access for maintenance or for the original construction.
Best book on this line is Edward S. Miller's book on the L&WV. Should be in most local libraries...he lived in Pittston and was the expert on traction lines in the area.
At 24:09, looks like it went right past Rocky Glen Pond.
Looking at the pipes at 47:42 I wonder if those are also mine vents. I was looking at the retaining wall with the gaps in it, they sure looked to thin to hold back much water.
Great video thanks JP
Good find!
As always awesome content thanks for your time to do this video 📸🙂
My pleasure
The pond and walls were probably from the road construction as a temporary sediment basin for all the earthwork moving.
The cage is called a trash rack in the stormwater design world.
The disconnected pipe and box appears to be way to spread out the stormwater runoff. Instead of a concentrated discharge point that would create erosion.
Thanks for the additional info
Another very interesting video. So glad to find out thanks to Chuck who left a comment that it was part of the old Laurel Line. Was always curious were it went. I know you uncovered ruins farther up some time age. Hard to believe the ruins you just found are 70 yrs old. I know the Laurel Line ceased operations in 1952. I love railroad history thanks for exploring it so much.
Glad you enjoyed it
That's so cool JP
It looks like a 2 rail line site. Back in the day I wouldn't jump the gap on a dirt bike. That's scary.... What a crazy area of dangers. I although enjoyed this trip. Thanks! For sharing this trip. I'll skip the chocolate candy. 😂
Haha
Hi Jay, it is so interesting literally chasing history to see what was going on there back in the day, it was a really cool hike and enough still remains to tell the story of what was once there. Thank you for sharing, much love. xx 💞
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very cool
JP- my thinking is that those curved steps near the end of the video were stairs. I'm guessing there was a station at the top and people needed to climb those wide steps to get up there. The ramps were there to make it easier to push baggage from street level to the top. I'm going to have to do some more research as the Laurel line is an interurban that I'm not too familiar with.
Reportedly it was an old mini golf course there.
Wandering in the woods in Northern Ohio, we would run across old structures, pipes and ties. At the time and being a kid, the rail history of the state wasn't something on my radar. It was just adventure for us. Now thanks to many channels, I'm very certain that we ran across just one of dozens of defunct rail companies and their lines from a century past. Amazing how rail lines criss-crossed just about everywhere, servicing small towns and businesses on narrow-gauge, until they were ultimately merged with or bought up by the larger companies.
21:12 Definitely double-tracked.
There is something similar not far from where I live and wondered why it was there. It turned out to be an abandoned railroad line and there was a railroad trestle at that location where the road would have gone underneath the trestle.
I agree with you that may have been a double line. Some times trains needed passing tracks.
The county seat records rooms for the county you're exploring may very well have pictures, etc. of the old industries. An old picture may help you put things into the proper perspective, as to what was what and where. Nice footage.
Some photos were shared on my fb page showing the wall and rail line
this is the old lural line dupont station just north up the line right before where the old bridge would be there would be a second station strickly for the miners
I do not know this area at all. But you said there was a coal breaker there. That usually means 1 or more coal mines may be close by. Finding a crack with air coming out could be a vent for a coal mine. Just a thought.
AWESOME!!
Thanks
chocolate candies look like chocolate chips lol it's deer poop. Very interesting exploration. The heights always bother me tho. Imagine seeing this or the abandoned trestle with a VR viewer. on pc..OMG. I'd probably fall off my chair 😂😮
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how did you find the old satelitte imagry??
Surely wide enough for 2 tracks, possibly a siding or passing area at one time
That's a neat find. Those people driving by probably have no clue what's out there. And I'll pass on the chocolate candys 😂
Smart move!
I wonder of it has to do with the rail tiles i found up at the plains twp municipal park
Double Line
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Raisenets?sp?
Perhaps if you can find more aerial photographs of this area from different time periods, maybe that might shed some light on what all this was.
We got confirmation. Please check the pinned comment.
Could it also be a purpose built terrace to help support the rail line up above? So the hill doesn't slide out from under the rail road tracks.
Awesome!
I had a second thought. Those levels could be for an audience where people brought there own chairs or blankets. I can't think of what the entertainment would have been.
Yeah, come back with a longer pole and a light. I bet there might be something interesting down there !!!
Very interesting!! Aawwe, little chocolates for valentine's day!! 😜😜
You found the Easter Bunny's home with all that candy LOL
38:35; My first guess would be a water drop of some kind.
Where exactly are you at?
Only asking because I am from Indiana and you look like you are where my happy place is... In the mountain areas!
@@TheNburtzla Pittston Pennsylvania
@@JPVideos81 I love your videos! So awesome. Thank you.
Great video. I wish you had a light for that first crevasse you put the camera in. Did the air have that mine air smell? I’m guessing not or you would have mentioned a mine. Question 🙋♂️ Your videos are so smooth and steady. Is that from the internal stabilization of the camera or is your camera also on a gimbal? Thanks.
@@cruikshank this was filmed on the DJI Osmo Action 3 which has built in stabilization called Rocksteady. It's like using a gimbal without needing one.
It's funny how we all miss what's right in front of us
9:20 like cribbing?
Maybe that wood wall was originally inteneded to be part of a form for pouring concrete, but for whatever reason the project stopped and what had been assembled was just left to rot
Chocolate candies 😂😂😂😂😂
The basketball could have been used to prevent whirlpools from forming during water suction to prevent loss of prime.
Maybe a roundhouse?
Maybe someone’s house at one time.🏡🤔
Do u know they have hospitals and all underground.Its cool to see.
The miners used to get in those holes.
Licorice candy dark green Rabbits share a communal site quite hygienic no polluting there food pasture.
Where I just came from they had a dual line one-upper one lower
Side road picnic area I’m guessing
It's looking like that concrete Tower is your first defense that still was your last defense everything you're showing looks like it could have been an actual Creek or a major area for a water runoff
Looks like it's wide enough two lines
It could be a train station or an office for the train
Chocolate candies? How about raisins from the rabbits. I had a rabbit, when I was very young. He left many "raisins" each day.
I'll pass on the raisins
Id say double line
Their coming for ya 😂
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Maybe it was a marker to show where the veins of coal are.
The helicopter is looking for bigfoot next to the Twinkie trees!!!
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Water erosion?
I could hear wind
Love the flat stacked stone retaining.. wall ..So many interesting finds. I love a mystery and am so curious as to what those "foundations" with the little ramp etc. were for ... a roadside park maybe ?. would love to know . Thank you so much for sharing the fun . ( I found some of those little "chocolate " pellets in our back yard last week . Couldn't decide if we had been visited by a rabbit or a deer LOL ) 🐰🦌
Those chocolate bits are fairly common, but the taste is awful lol. I confirmed that those ruins were an old mini golf place.
@@JPVideos81 Love that you solved that mystery ,,,fun to know !.