How the Hero Emperor Majorian almost restored the Western Roman Empire. (pt.3)

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
  • ⚔️ SPQR Shop, excellent hand-crafted Roman rings and other items:
    spqrshop.com/?...
    Enter the code "Maiorianus" to get a 20% discount on every purchase. The ideal present for any fan of Rome 😉!
    🔴 YOU WANT TO SUPPORT THIS CHANNEL? 🔴
    🤗 Join our Patreon community: / maiorianus
    Or become an official Maiorianus member on TH-cam: / maiorianus461
    🎁 The official Maiorianus merch store is now OPEN:
    maiorianus.mys...
    🤗 One-Time Donation?
    PayPal: paypal.me/Maio...
    Bitcoin: bc1qv4lsfsplvfecrrgvmfclhga28we7mvh9563xdj
    🔗 Share the video with anyone who might be interested (it helps a ton!)
    The wonderful background music is by Adrian von Ziegler: • Relaxing Roman Music -...
    Disclosures: Some links in the description are affiliate links which means that if you purchase something by clicking on one of them, your host Sebastian will receive a small commission at no additional cost to you. In this way you will be supporting the channel to improve the video production quality at no extra cost to you.
    📬 Contact us: maiorianus.sebastian@gmail.com
    #Maiorianus

ความคิดเห็น • 172

  • @Maiorianus_Sebastian
    @Maiorianus_Sebastian  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    🤗 Join our Patreon community: www.patreon.com/Maiorianus

    • @Samuel42069
      @Samuel42069 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great man. I remember him with you. I now understand why you named your channel after him.
      That what you said about people betraying and destroying their country for a bit of coin is true nowadays as well. Same as about spies, traitors. There is like couple of autonomous countries left in 2024.

  • @Jediben001
    @Jediben001 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Man basically solo carried the empire for 4 years. RIP Majorianus the Great

  • @ari3903
    @ari3903 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Back in the first punic war, after Rome expended most of its resources after losing one fleet after another in battles and natural disasters alike, the patrician class literally gave up their wealth and donated it to continue the war effort. Compare this to the patrician class during the time of Majorian, they stabbed him in the back and allowed a fleet of 300 warships to burn. It can't be understated how much the Roman society had degenerated at that point.

    • @necromater6656
      @necromater6656 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Certainly, Majorian's assassination kind of proved that western Rome didnt deserve to be saved.

    • @BlackMasterRoshi
      @BlackMasterRoshi ปีที่แล้ว +18

      they probably felt that with all the new citizens and changing social structure it wasn't "their Rome" anymore

    • @twistedsteeltv6130
      @twistedsteeltv6130 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Imagine sabotaging your own state for personal profit so that it ultimately collapses. Oh wait this sounds familiar 🤔

    • @aaronTGP_3756
      @aaronTGP_3756 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@twistedsteeltv6130 Literally all corrupt countries. Like Brazil or India.

    • @cjthebeesknees
      @cjthebeesknees ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@twistedsteeltv6130
      Very familiar, eerily.

  • @DISTurbedwaffle918
    @DISTurbedwaffle918 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I taught Roman history alongside my Latin curriculum. My students were baffled at the constant tragedy of good emperors getting betrayed

    • @Uncle_Fred
      @Uncle_Fred ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think this is because we here in the West arn't really as familiar with a system of government that relies on patronage. It's been several decades since patronage was the primary means of recruiting and maintaining the apparatus of the state. Systems like Rome mostly considered loyalty rather than merit or law as the way Emperors secured their position. Someone who was too successful was often seen as a threat. For a modern example of this form of government, consider Vladimir Putin's Russia. In this respect, Putin's Russia is very much like a third Rome.

    • @WildWombats
      @WildWombats ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Uncle_Fred To add to this, someone as an emperor has mostly two threats for the most part: if he has a governing body as in the case of Rome, the Senate, and then the military side of things, like the Praetorian Guards. A lot of the emperors who were killed were killed by the Praetorian Guards. Sure, if you pass common sense reforms and laws that make sense, that's great to the common people and such, but then you risk alienating people of status, the senate, and the military if it's too generous for the common people and if they don't feel they receive enough reward. Sometimes, doing the smart or right thing comes in abrasion against what the military / senate wanted, so thus another good emperor ends. Someone who was too successful didn't necessarily fail specifically because they were successful. It was rather a product of the fact to even be successful, you'd probably have to clash heads against the elites and military from time to time. Coming up with new and out there ideas, ideas that perhaps military and elites didn't always agree with until it came to a boiling point.

  • @pukalo
    @pukalo ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Majorian is one of those historical figures who deserves to have movies about him made.

    • @twistedsteeltv6130
      @twistedsteeltv6130 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Fully agree, would be a great story to tell. HBO we're looking at you!

    • @WildWombats
      @WildWombats ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm surprised they're not.

    • @WildWombats
      @WildWombats ปีที่แล้ว

      @chripian flopez so if they didn't do that, then it would be a good movie, yes? In other words, if they actually acted the history as it was, then it would make for a good movie. I think BBC's Rome is an example to look up to.

    • @canal7543
      @canal7543 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@twistedsteeltv6130 Unfortunately stupid corrupt politicians stopped him from restoring the western roman empire

    • @wojtek1582
      @wojtek1582 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hollywood considers that to risky... We will get 25th Cleopatra, 55th Julius Caesar and 45th Napoleon before we will get someone not known to every average Joe. There are so many great stories like Majorian, Massinissa, Belisarius or some Byzantine emperors as there is bunch of GoT like real stories ;).

  • @albertvonhabsburg
    @albertvonhabsburg ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Majorian's son :
    _"how did my father die?"_
    Magister Kenobius :
    _"A magister militum named Ricimer was seduced by the dark force and turned into evil, he betrayed and murdured your father"_

    • @hemidas
      @hemidas ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Ricimer: "No, I am your father!"

    • @antonkomel9337
      @antonkomel9337 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ricimer was Darh Tyrant

    • @alkiskosh6536
      @alkiskosh6536 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      was Majorian married or have sons?

  • @Constantine_Bush
    @Constantine_Bush ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Majorian was a fitting end to the legacy of Scipio and Augustus.He reminds me a lot of emperor Maurice.

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This raised a new question: Why these Roman senators and patricians no longer cared about the Empire? If the Empire fell, how will they feed themselves and their families? Who will paid their money? And more importantly, how will they corrupted the system if the system is no more for them to leech on?
    Also, I will be looking forward to the alternate scenario about the reconquest of Carthage by Emperor Majorian in the future as well!

    • @ari3903
      @ari3903 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      As we've seen, Italy was subjected to Eastern Roman rule after Odoacer overthrew Romulus, and he kept ruling the region as a king of sorts. It was the same with Theoderich. Their institutions, houses and families remained, so that was not a concern for the senators. The only reason a Roman aristocrat to have remained loyal was ideology, the belief in something greater than you, the individual, which faded and crumbled away by the time of Majorian.

    • @danielchequer5842
      @danielchequer5842 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They did not need the state to perpetuate their corruption. The roman aristocracy remained after the fall of the west and kept going for centuries, merging with the imigrants. By the time of charlemagne the roman aristocracy was preety much unrecognizable

    • @aaronTGP_3756
      @aaronTGP_3756 ปีที่แล้ว

      These senatorial leeches never got their comeuppance. They either fled to Constantinople or became the leeches of the Western Church.

    • @alexzero3736
      @alexzero3736 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ari3903 yes...Actually kingdom of Theodoric was even larger than Majorian Empire.

    • @doppelwaffen
      @doppelwaffen ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Since the late republic, the empire was owned by the senatorial elite. In the 5th century AD, the emperor's job was to protect the wealth of the senators. Maiorian blew that one when he taxed the senators in order to finance military adventurism. However, we should not that there were several fractions in the senate. The Gallic senators apparently liked him, for obvious reasons, whereas the Italien senators may have believed that Ricimer was the better deal.

  • @astralclub5964
    @astralclub5964 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Finally, the Western Roman Empire got the emperor it needed, instead of the one they deserved!

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
    @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "[Majorian] presents the welcome discovery of a great and heroic character, such as sometimes arise, in a degenerate age, to vindicate the honour of the human species." ~Edward Gibbon

  • @ziggytheassassin5835
    @ziggytheassassin5835 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There's no one else that fits the phrase "too good for this world" as much as majorian.

  • @RR-nh8no
    @RR-nh8no ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm also a truly fan of Majorian and I respect him a lot as my favourite Roman emperor. Also like you I admire his efforts to save the Western Roman Empire. Thank you for this movie and for all what you are doing here. I am really jealous that you had possibility to visit the remain of Majorian mausoleum. 😁 You are doing great work. Good luck! 👍👍👍 One more thing: you mentioned in the video that in his mausoleum survived a piece of inscription mentioned Majorian. Please share a photo of it!

  • @jkelsey555
    @jkelsey555 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "presents the welcome discovery of a great and heroic character, such as sometimes arise, in a degenerate age, to vindicate the honour of the human species"-Gibbon

  • @fredhercmaricaubang1883
    @fredhercmaricaubang1883 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is SO SAD, Frater Sebastianus! So utterly SORDID a fate for one so Noble & Heroic! Unfortunately though, THIS sort of reprehensible & treacherous behavior is quite prevalent in those high in station, be they in government, the military or police or even in the business sector in my most unfortunate & unhappy country! At any rate, Gratias Tibianus, Frater Sebastianus, et Bene Valite! Stay well & be safe! I look forward to MORE videos such as this in the future!

  • @Steve_Hickman
    @Steve_Hickman ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Majorian is quite a tragic figure. In hindsight, he wanted to preserve Rome and achieved many victories in the pursuit of saving the empire. That was the flaw in his dream though, because the Rome Majorian imagined he was saving no longer existed, replaced by people who'd rather exploit the corruption that had come to cripple any attempts at restoring it. As impressive as his motivation was, Majorian lacked the vision to uncover the treachery and deceit of those he felt weren't a threat, which ultimately proved to be his downfall.

  • @joaomarcelo7708
    @joaomarcelo7708 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I asked the AI to make me an story where Majorian uncovered Ricimer's plot, and I was expecting Ricimer to be executed on Majorian's orders or maybe sent to prison for life, but nope. The AI surprised me by having Majorian convince Ricimer that he was harming the empire with his plots, and that if he switched his allegiances to Majorian they should be able restore some sense of order into the empire. The two chads implemented comprehensive reforms aimed at strengthening the Roman military, improving governance, and stabilizing the empire's borders.

    • @magiccabbage5971
      @magiccabbage5971 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yo please send me that whole thing brother! Or maybe the app that you atleast used it on…

    • @joaomarcelo7708
      @joaomarcelo7708 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@magiccabbage5971 the story is lost, but the app is Chat GPT

  • @loopernoodling
    @loopernoodling ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Life has been tough for everybody recently - lots of things to get angry about.
    And now, after watching your videos for a few months, I find myself increasingly angry about the fate of Majorian and others who tried to save Rome - like all of us here, it's hard to stop fantasising about how the Western world would have looked with another couple of thousand years of Pax Romana.
    So thanks for giving me something new to be fed up about, amicus meus!

    • @Leo.de99
      @Leo.de99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We would already be striving for the stars

  • @daguroswaldson257
    @daguroswaldson257 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well, you have succeeded with me in preserving the memory of Majorian. It was because of you, I made him one of the biggest characters in my first book and made him a good friend to my main character Antonine, a character named after one of the Roman emperors. At the end of my first book, his rule is only briefly mentioned. In my second book, there will be a flashback chapter where our character Antonine will assist the Romans in an alliance as Aegidius is the brother of his deceased best friend Marcus and as Childeric has an alliance with the Romans despite his past against the Romans. In my second book, Antonine will tell his adopted son named Marcus, a character named after his friend Marcus as Majorian admired him so much, the story of his birth father and how he nearly saved the empire, was betrayed, and how he promised Majorian that he would look after his children if anything happened to him.

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All empires inevitably rise and fall - it's part of one of the laws of thermodynamics - the law of entropy - heat inevitably gets cooler - some one else has stated that empires are built by soldiers wearing leather boots with studs underneath them but empires then decline when men start wearing soft slippers. The fourteenth century Tunisian thinker Ibn Khaldun was one of the first to describe this inevitable rise and fall of civilizations and his ideas were taken up by 18th century Italian philosopher Gianbattista Vico - Oswald Spengler and others like Arnold Toynbee took up the theme in the 20th Century.

  • @jakeg3733
    @jakeg3733 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One thing I don't understand about both attempts to reconquer Roman Africa: Why not travel overland? Amphibious landings have always been incredibly risky affairs, to this day this is true. And I understand that sections of the North African coast are... quite unpleasant. But I also believe things were a little more hospitable back then, and it seems possible to move an army from Egypt to Libya and beyond. Why didn't they try this?

  • @Vanic00
    @Vanic00 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The tragedy of Majorian is that he seemed to have cared for Rome. Among many others like him, he too deserves the title "The Last of the Romans".

  • @BlackMasterRoshi
    @BlackMasterRoshi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is a great channel for those who love Roman history

  • @shahmatsimplex4144
    @shahmatsimplex4144 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Romans had a tendency to blame major defeats on treachery. The ships Majorian built were mainly troop transports and supply ships for a crossing at the Straits of Gibraltar, where the army would march along the coast of Mauretania towards Carthage the same way as Vandals did, thus Gaiseric scorched the area. The idea of sailing to Sicily, a long journey with no element of surprise, would have been suicide as the experienced vandal fleet would have intercepted and picked off that novice roman fleet like sitting ducks just as it would do to the eastern roman fleet in 468. Since the ships hadnt left port yet, the vandal fleet found an opportunity to enter and burn all the ships. The operation was doomed from the getgo with similar odds as operation sealion in 1940, but with vandals ruling the seas in 460. Many modern historians lack a knowledge of military logistics and come up with many unlikely what ifs.

  • @daveweiss5647
    @daveweiss5647 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was lucky enough to have caught your very first video when it came out, instantly subscribed and have watched every video since. I was always a massive fan of Roman history since I was a little kid (almost 40 now) but never focused much on the very late empire as it was always too depressing for me. This channel has been a massive eye opener for me and I haven't learned this much new info about Rome since my childhood. I thank you for that and I have to say this was your greatest episode yet, even though it made me incredibly sad, especially toward the end when you listed the reasons why it was too late, how he was born too late, there just weren't enough other people who gave a damn about their country anymore, I feel like that in my own country these days and it really hits close to home. Thanks for the great videos. Keep it up, great job.

  • @PridedTomb55
    @PridedTomb55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for telling the story of Majorian my heart cries for this great man during a time of such darkness he will always be one of my favorites emperors

  • @bellatordei3440
    @bellatordei3440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a MAJOR accomplishment 👏

  • @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014
    @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deep respect for Maiorianus, he deserved the conquest of africa (reconquest) , he worked so hard for everything to end up in flame by the very slimes of humanity

  • @serek_heterogenizowany
    @serek_heterogenizowany หลายเดือนก่อน

    Majorian, Aurelian. Two speedruners and GOATs betrayed.

  • @bobyrd74
    @bobyrd74 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic series on the channel namesake. I'll have to make it a point to see the mausoleum next year during our visit.
    Keep up the great work!

    • @Maiorianus_Sebastian
      @Maiorianus_Sebastian  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much :) I put the most effort and work into the Majorian trilogy, so I am very happy to see that you like it. Yes, the Mausoleum is not really impressive or anything, but it is still impressive, alone to know that Majorian himself was buried there.

  • @HemingwayJones
    @HemingwayJones ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was brilliant! I love the emotional ending! So well done! I love your Channel so much!

  • @garymarcera7452
    @garymarcera7452 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A touching and moving tribute to a great man. How we need such people today! Problem is where are they, who are they? Sounds like we'll end up like Majorian and the late western Roman empire at the rate we're going now.

    • @KieranTaylor86
      @KieranTaylor86 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The only person I can think of that targeted corrupt controlling wealth and uses military force to restore there former Empire and became to sure of himself after years of victories is Putin, I somehow think you have overlooked this guy 😂😂😂

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great episode! Your admiration for the man shines through.⚔🔥🙌

  • @antoniobautista6718
    @antoniobautista6718 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible series, I just watched all 3 parts and they were made very well!
    The tale of Imperator Maiorianus is a inspiring and tragic one. It shows us that so much things can be achieved under extreme pressure and outside force against you, and that despite all that you have achieved, others may covet your position and despise your accolades. A tale that inspires you to do you best no matter what surrounds you, but to also be careful of the ones around you. You should always have a good circle in your life, but as position and influence rises, you must decide who you can really trust, and see who among you is hugging you with a cloak while concealing a dagger behind his/her back.

  • @ElJuicy
    @ElJuicy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what a fortunate coincidence!! I jus started watching the series you made of Majorian and I was thinking I was going to wait a lot for the next episode! Thank you I had no idea Majorian was so important in the history of the roman empire, keep it up Maiorianus!

  • @Y_ooKang
    @Y_ooKang 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "An open enemy, is better than a false friend"

  • @egillskallagrimson5879
    @egillskallagrimson5879 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should consider to make an animated series, it would be awesome!

  • @radored7750
    @radored7750 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video

  • @chrisparsons2791
    @chrisparsons2791 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You are an amazing storyteller sir. These three videos on Majorian are works of art to be treasured. Thank you for all your hard work.

  • @cybair9341
    @cybair9341 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Looks like the American empire is presently undergoing the same stage of corruption which afflicted the Roman empire after Majorian. Although the end now could come much quicker given the faster pace of today's communications. Thanks for this thought-provoking video !

    • @guadalupe8589
      @guadalupe8589 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      One key difference. The USA military is still very much a USA military. There isn't huge swaths of its military consisting of "other" peoples who have stronger allegiances to their tribes or chieftains

    • @perceivedvelocity9914
      @perceivedvelocity9914 ปีที่แล้ว

      The structure of the United States government and military is nothing like that of Rome. There are no similarities.

    • @rogerchen4277
      @rogerchen4277 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@guadalupe8589 With how tribalized American society is amongst race and politics, the extreme hedonistic war weariness of the population and ever declining amount of eager recruits for the Us armed forces, the US military shows signs of this decline too; though that cant compare to how sharply the armies of Nato in Europe has declined.

    • @daguroswaldson257
      @daguroswaldson257 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not only that, but Trump was betrayed with the election rigged against him. Same with Bolsonaro in Brazil so that puppets such as Biden and Lula were installed. It is an event that I call the Ricemer factor.

  • @justinpierce2819
    @justinpierce2819 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for all the hard work you put into these videos and the entirety of your channel. I either had many misconceptions about the Western Roman Empire or was simply uneducated on the subject but you’ve helped me understand the Ancient Romans much more. Much love my friend 🙏🏻

  • @LouAlvis
    @LouAlvis ปีที่แล้ว

    No Wonder, You adopt his name. what a story, what a dream. I wish it had worked out

  • @san_carolingio
    @san_carolingio ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video maiorianus, I love your channel and your work. Greetings from Venezuela. MAIORIANUS RESTITUTOR OCCIDENS

  • @davidhughes8357
    @davidhughes8357 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another very good video my friends. Thank you.

  • @tylerjwoodby5193
    @tylerjwoodby5193 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been waiting for this. thank your for your good work.

  • @GoogleUserOne
    @GoogleUserOne ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man. Majorian and Stilicho must be so pissed.but that’s what you get when you entrust barbarians

    • @aaronTGP_3756
      @aaronTGP_3756 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The latter, Stilicho, was a half-Vandal who trusted the parasitic Roman elite too much. It depended on circumstances on who to rightfully distrust. For Stilicho it was the elites, and for Majorian it was the elites and Ricimer.

  • @MBP1918
    @MBP1918 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A real Last Roman

  • @mario_1683
    @mario_1683 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to say, that this is a very nice video!
    But let me ask one question: What booksor other sources can you recommend about Majorian? I really tried to find something but coundt. I would really appreciate if you could give us a few sources to look into. Thank you

  • @Maurice599
    @Maurice599 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn this is almost like a reverse Caesar story

    • @doanhoangvan5009
      @doanhoangvan5009 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes. But if Majorian was Caesar, there was tragically no Augustus.

  • @MartinRichardi
    @MartinRichardi ปีที่แล้ว

    excelent video, hope to see your next video whit a happy ending

  • @carlosfilho3402
    @carlosfilho3402 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Tô This important Vídeo Of Roman History.

  • @asiridesigns5344
    @asiridesigns5344 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Many parallels can be drawn to what is happening today.

  • @Ciech_mate
    @Ciech_mate 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What did the Romans call their state was it 'the roman empire' did they know they were part of an Empire?

  • @sjoerdvermeijden
    @sjoerdvermeijden ปีที่แล้ว

    The hero we should all aspire to be like!

  • @jasoncuculo7035
    @jasoncuculo7035 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

    • @Maiorianus_Sebastian
      @Maiorianus_Sebastian  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot for your generous donation, I really appreciate it :)

  • @SAarumDoK
    @SAarumDoK ปีที่แล้ว

    Always a little pleasure to listen (and watch) your videos, the narration is well done, the music fitting and the artworks are well done !
    Btw, who is the artist ?

  • @waltonsmith7210
    @waltonsmith7210 ปีที่แล้ว

    He could defeat armies in the field, but wasnt ready for the underhanded tactics of fifth century supervillians.

  • @Constantine_Bush
    @Constantine_Bush ปีที่แล้ว

    Anthemius and Riothamus made a try as well,their names will be remembered.

  • @wojtek1582
    @wojtek1582 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It just came to my mind that Ricimer could be inspired by coins from Vandals. It would be great move by them to make sure that dangerous emperor will be removed and someone will place worthless puppet as the next emperor, so their kingdom will be safe.

  • @slobodan888
    @slobodan888 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:38 Sounds a lot like America today! Not to worry, in 10,000 years we'll all be back for another go! Somewhere.

  • @basileus8827
    @basileus8827 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He was the original gigachad.

  • @alexandrepereira3902
    @alexandrepereira3902 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent

  • @GoogleUserOne
    @GoogleUserOne ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t think anyone would give a shite about majorian if not for the passing comment by Edward gibbons

  • @ostrichhe4d
    @ostrichhe4d ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Maiorianus, I’m about to start writing a university essay on the religious change in the western Roman Empire and how that affected its laws during Majorians time. Do you have any good books to recommend on the subject?

    • @GoogleUserOne
      @GoogleUserOne ปีที่แล้ว

      Compare the codex of Justinian with the constitution in place during Augustus. Not sure there is an alternative. Just make it up like lawyers always do.

    • @ostrichhe4d
      @ostrichhe4d ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GoogleUserOne That is not the subject of my essay.

    • @GoogleUserOne
      @GoogleUserOne ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ostrichhe4d ummm. Well the religion and law was different from the Augustus reforms of 23 and the corpus juris civilis

    • @ostrichhe4d
      @ostrichhe4d ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GoogleUserOne Yeah but I'm not writing about that time in history.

  • @Koopinator
    @Koopinator ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you made a video on the subject of "did the reliance on foederati cause the fall of rome?"

  • @WildWombats
    @WildWombats ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the banquet when he was happy or appeared to be happy, it was most definitely a facade, but an intentional one. To appear sad and defeated is precisely what they would have wanted. Majorian was not going to give them that satisfaction. Turn what is meant to be negative into a positive is a very real strategy to get at your enemy, mentally. "hah, you thought that would make me upset? Joke's on you, I'm having a great time over here." It's like laughing in the face of punishment. Additionally, should Majorian had appeared defeated and sad, would this not have broken the morale of his men? Majorian was smart enough that he would have been well aware of the damages had he appeared defeated or in a bad mood. Even amidst some of the lowest lows, leaders will sometimes celebrate to re-boost morale, it's a very smart strategy to reinvigorate your men in fact. It's like a "Second wave" attempt. Majorian was not like the other emperors who would have fell to this trap and would have simply "pouted" in defeat. This is why I Strongly doubt it was fabricated that he was in a good mood beyond just a facade at worst, but i have no reason to doubt he appeared to be in a good mood.

  • @josephparker3033
    @josephparker3033 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these!

  • @nathanielscreativecollecti6392
    @nathanielscreativecollecti6392 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do we have any surviving speeches from Majorian? I would love to know if anything he wrote or said survives.

  • @johnmanier9047
    @johnmanier9047 ปีที่แล้ว

    Majorian accomplishments rivaled that of Julius Caesar however luck was not on his side

  • @Adrian-bx4ue
    @Adrian-bx4ue ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a fan of Majorian I've dug a lot into the limited info available. And one can't really navigate the life of Majorian without becoming involved in Ricimer. Being viewed as a villain is rightfully earned, but I think we've all become a bit too sympathetic toward Majorian and have let his 'what could have been' reign tint an honest analysis of who Ricimer was and his true motivations. He wasn't so much a Sith Lord as someone that cared not for Roman expansion. Based on his actions post Majorian, it became evident he only cared for defending what little of Rome was practical, i.e. the Italian peninsula. Combine this with preferring to protect his own ethnic kin than "Roman Citizens" and you get a more substantial, realpolitik version of Ricimer. Someone that saw Majorian's continual campaigns as a waste of resources that would do little to benefit his people. You see this now in America - we are constantly involved overseas in needless wars when we would be better off protecting our own borders. We aren't America prime just like 5th century Rome wasn't Rome prime and you have to admit maybe trying to reconquer lost lands while passing controversial reforms wasn't the smartest move on Majorian's part. He was naïve and a bit too in love with what Rome was instead of focusing on what it had turned into. Of course this is what makes him such a romantic figure, but in order to rule correctly and save Rome you would have needed someone with a bit of Majorian and Ricimer in them.

    • @waltonsmith7210
      @waltonsmith7210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Reconquering lost lands is not a foreign war. Rome was claiming its own lands. I dont think the situation lf the US is anything like the western empire except in the broadest terms. We've definately got parasitic self interested elites that hoard resources for selfish ends.

    • @cheekybreeky6925
      @cheekybreeky6925 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holding Italy was impossible, the empire needed all the income tax available from africa and spain, required to keep the empire afloat in the long term. Holding the italian would do nothing, the eastern romans got overrun by the lombards and besides , attila got into italy unfazed 10 years before, what would holding italy from 3 different flanks do?? Get gang banged by ostrogoths, vandals, visigoths? Stop comparing America with Rome, america is full of either imbeciles or all for themselves individuals that should not hold positions involving decision making. Most post petronius maxiums emperors were ambitious and tried they re best at keeping the empire afloat. ( majorian, anthemius, glycerius, julius nepos even avitus tried it but more the diplomacy way). And he aint romantic, it was his responsability to keep the flame of Rome burning like gallienius, claudius II, aurelian, probus did in turbulent times. The duty of an emperor/king to make his realm prosperous.

    • @doppelwaffen
      @doppelwaffen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Vandalic empire (and its fleet) was the most serious threat to Rome and Africa was by far the richest province in the west.

    • @Adrian-bx4ue
      @Adrian-bx4ue ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@doppelwaffen that’s still thinking empirewise. Ricimer didn’t care so much about protecting Rome proper, he sacked the city himself years later, he cared about storing resources and establishing his own rump state. Years after majorian there was another joint east west naval expedition to tame the vandals that ended in abject failure but Ricimer vetoed his army’s participation. Meaning while many lost men, Ricimer left Rome for Milan with his army intact. That was about the final straw of him pretending to be Roman as he would wage open war against those still in Rome from then on. Mostly due to hostilities between his non participation than territory disputes. Nonetheless he had succeeded at establishing his own independent kingdom in time for the middle ages. That is until the Merovingians ended his feudal bloodline.

  • @LiveinReykjavik
    @LiveinReykjavik ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And if we try hard enough, we actually might get stabbed in the back and end up beheaded by people we trust.

  • @formacionG13
    @formacionG13 ปีที่แล้ว

    El edgar be like si quema cuh v8 cuh la mamalona cuh puro takuachando cuh

  • @HerrAndreasSkog
    @HerrAndreasSkog หลายเดือนก่อน

    Civilizations die when they run into problems that have solutions that nobody in power wants.
    Rest in Peace, you tired.

  • @ozgurceltikci9106
    @ozgurceltikci9106 ปีที่แล้ว

    In Crusader Kings terms, Maiorianus was a royal of extreme martial and very good stewardship skill, only coupled with very very poor intrigue. The way he couldn’t sort out a likely Vandal plot in Hispania and the way he effectively ran headlong into the trap set by Ricimer speaks volumes about his complete lack of espionage and secrecy skills. He was an idealist, yes, but also a too-staunch-for-the-times traditionalist. What not makes him a second Decius is his tolerance, martial prowess and conduct.
    Second-coming of Aurelian? Hardly. Better than all emperors since Constantine I? Certainly.

    • @doanhoangvan5009
      @doanhoangvan5009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aurelian and Probus, who were great soldier emperors during the crisis of the Third Century, were also killed by his own officers.

  • @studiohadrian
    @studiohadrian ปีที่แล้ว

    Majorian was undoubtedly an impressive figure who's criminally unknown, but in my opinion, Roman society had degraded so much that the fall of the WRE was basically inevitable. I could be wrong though.

  • @aaronTGP_3756
    @aaronTGP_3756 ปีที่แล้ว

    To end a crisis of the Fifth Century. Western Rome needed a new Aurelian and new Diocletian. That is, a savior and a reformer. So in the timeline where Western Rome survives again, we can see Majorian fulfill the former role. I wonder who would make the necessary reforms to consolidate the Empire. Perhaps there is a development of Germano-Roman feudalism with the foederati leaders acting as nobles, in exchange for conversion to Chalcedonian Christianity and loyalty to the Emperor. Clovis, and later, Liuvigild might be key dukes in the Empire. This could mean an extreme difference between West and East.

    • @doppelwaffen
      @doppelwaffen ปีที่แล้ว

      A key problem of the late empire was that the Germanic warlord who controlled the military could never hope to become emperor and rule the empire by himself. This made any structural reforms impossible.

  • @quantashonjamaldigglerbury4934
    @quantashonjamaldigglerbury4934 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do "What if the eastern roman empire fell after the battle of adrianople"
    This sounds unlikely but lets say constantine for some reason never builds the walls and byzantium is defenseless due to septimius severus from 200 years ago.
    Or he doesnt build them as good or the walls for some reason fail or some treacherous people let the goths into byzantium for greedy reasons, etc etc.
    And in this timeline honorious is also either competent or replaced by another competent person. And thus western rome fully consolidates and also holds off germanic barbarians and manageds to take some provinces from the destroyed east back which is being occupied by sassanids,goths, etc and maybe even huns at one point.
    Majorian would be this timelines justinian and whether he succeeds is up to you.

  • @wojaren331
    @wojaren331 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Majorian had held onto power, I think it is quite likely that Anthemius would have become emperor in Constantinople.

  • @badgamemaster
    @badgamemaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Majorian the Hero?

  • @billychops1280
    @billychops1280 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are u Dutch Maiorianus? U sound like another Dutch TH-camr I watch

    • @C_B_Hubbs
      @C_B_Hubbs ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe Sebastian, who operates this Maiorianus channel, is from southern Germany

  • @Garnondorf
    @Garnondorf ปีที่แล้ว

    Honey, wake up. Maiorianus tell again about the hero!

  • @anthonyquinn1063
    @anthonyquinn1063 ปีที่แล้ว

    Play Order 66 from Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith.

  • @mikered1974
    @mikered1974 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Real Tragedy is that Majorian ( West ) and Leo I ( East ) who ruled in the same time never cooperated together can you guys imagined the cooperation of the Two to restore the West , Leo I is the last Eastern Roman Emperor that cared for Western Roman if they just get rid of Recimer ( West ) & Aspar (East ) quickly WHAT WILL GONNA HAPPEN.

  • @AM_vegan
    @AM_vegan ปีที่แล้ว

    How can I get Gerald Edward Max' book on emperor Majorian?

  • @Redjoekido
    @Redjoekido ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Majorian, even if he had saved the Western Roman Empire, it would still have collapsed anyway because his death tore everything up, and even if he died naturally, it will still be torn up.
    The Roman Empire it was during his time was not the same as it was during the time of Augustus. Compare the Roman Empire in the first century to the fifth century is a totally different world. It was literally an alien world when you think about it.
    The old culture of the Roman Empire is gone, the Western Roman Empire was a ghost of what it use to be, many areas are in ruins literally tells you a fore gone stories while feeling ghostly imprint of what happened there. The Roman Empire as a whole has lost everything it has to offer.
    Majorian is not gonna fix that, everything was changing. German kingdoms that will evolve to change the political landscape of Europe with identities of modern Europeans popping up such as the Franks who will later along with the native peoples will become the Dutch and French. England is going to become a cluster of Saxon Kingdoms until it was reunited and the Normans coming along forming the modern British people. The Germanic tribes in Hispania set up their kingdoms along with the later Moors, which evolved into Portugal and Spain with modern Spanish and Portuguese identities beginning just after 480 and 700.
    Things were changing fast, and it was inevitable. Majorian may be a hero but suffer too many setbacks that ended up with a mistake that could've been avoided if he had thought of a way that won't get him killed.
    He may have had his success but would not do anything had he won. The Western Roman Empire was long dead, with Majorian dragging a dead horse.

  • @jonathanbetts1169
    @jonathanbetts1169 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ricimer has to be one of the most evil people in Roman history and thats saying something. Classic example of a rule over the ashes villain.

  • @anthonydefex
    @anthonydefex ปีที่แล้ว

    That sucked a lot. Greed is so base. I visited Portus Ilicitanus, modern day Alicante, in 2018. I did realize at the time this history about it

  • @brober
    @brober ปีที่แล้ว

    If only.

  • @sageof6pandas233
    @sageof6pandas233 ปีที่แล้ว

    It still hurts to hear his name

    • @timothylee2772
      @timothylee2772 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Only if Majorian had lived another 20-30 years, we would be talking about the Majorian complete restoration of WRE. It would have survived into the 5th century.

  • @Ciech_mate
    @Ciech_mate 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Short in the dark, you are German?

  • @hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156
    @hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's start a war:
    Ricimer is Tyrion Lannister.

  • @impaugjuldivmax
    @impaugjuldivmax ปีที่แล้ว

    Majorian never kept political power under his control, therefore all the attempts to restore the Orbis were doomed.

  • @trimegaplays7748
    @trimegaplays7748 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rome

  • @angusmcpherson3474
    @angusmcpherson3474 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's minor channels like this that go out of their way to cover neglected topics that will keep historical accuracy enduring

  • @lazyguy3081
    @lazyguy3081 ปีที่แล้ว

    thought you gave up on this series ngl

  • @TheShahOfIran2005
    @TheShahOfIran2005 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was Majorian catholic? Is that christian mausoleum?

  • @diamondinthesky4771
    @diamondinthesky4771 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    #RicimerHateClub

  • @MrCmon113
    @MrCmon113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Getting unbiased info on the late Roman empire from a dude calling himself Maiorianus.

    • @wizstorm172
      @wizstorm172 ปีที่แล้ว

      shut up

    • @GoogleUserOne
      @GoogleUserOne ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s not like he’s dovanhatty - but he advocates pretty hard for his boy majorian

    • @Rynewulf
      @Rynewulf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would it really be better if the channel was called Iranshahboo or something?

    • @Rynewulf
      @Rynewulf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would it really be better if the channel was called Iranshahboo or something?

    • @ari3903
      @ari3903 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rynewulf That'd be like having a profile picture of Pepsi but making videos about how good Coca-Cola is.

  • @GaiusJuliusCaesar.
    @GaiusJuliusCaesar. ปีที่แล้ว

    Ricimer: You don't owe these people (Romans) anymore you've given them everything.
    Majorian: Not everything. Not yet.

  • @wizstorm172
    @wizstorm172 ปีที่แล้ว

    what are your thoughts on syragius and aeigidus. also who does the artwork for your channel?