I can vouch for this lens too as I use it as my walkabout lens. Very sharp an lightweight. In good light it shines, but can struggle a little in bad light days as you say. But overall, I would never get rid of it. Nice factual review Paul...well done! ATB
Nice to hear from you and thanks for the feedback. Really great to hear your thoughts on the lens, which we seem to agree on. It's not perfect - but for the price.. what a great buy!
@@martingilchrist7063 true, plus it works just fine in any daytime situation outdoors, just bump up to 1600ISO. Any DSLR can do that cleanly and the 1D Mark IV from 2010 can do 8000 ISO clean so you can shoot this indoors and at night on brightly lit sports fields like baseball and football and other brightlit outdoor areas. Like when I was at walmart parking lot earlier.
sorry to be so off topic but does any of you know of a tool to get back into an instagram account..? I somehow forgot my login password. I would love any assistance you can give me.
I've had this lens for going on 3 years & agree with all your points. If only it had IS. I'd accept a little more weight for more usability in lower light with slower shutter speeds. I'd upgrade to an IS version in a heartbeat.
@@KandiKlover I had the 300 f/4 and found the images to be soft so I/S was no help. I always used a high shutter speed to photograph birds in flight so I/S wasn't an issue. Honestly, I dislike I/S and always turn it off if the lens has it.
I bought this lens recently largely thanks to your recommendation. It's been wonderful for me so far, absolutely brutal to use handheld, but on a monopod it's no issue. Despite the difficulty, shooting with it is downright addictive due to just how gorgeous it's images are.
Another good video Paul - thanks. I used this lens for around eight years, with a 500D, a 7D and then a 7D mk2 before part ex'ing for a 100-400 f5.6 mk2 and agree with you. Great lens, lightweight and as sharp as a tack.
Thanks very much. Now, you are the perfect person to ask this question: having used the 400mm f5.6 on those bodies - how do you compare the sharpness of the 100-400 mk 2. I'd be really interested to know if you think there's much in it??
Hi John. Sounds good advice for Nikon shooters. Have always had Canon myself so don't know too much about the Nikon options. Their shutters always sound nicer than mine though..!
I bought the Sigma 150-600 Contemporary, and I love it. According to the tests that I’ve seen it’s about the same sharpness as this Canon 400mm, and it offers image stabilisation as well as longer reach and greater flexibility. Focus speed seems fine.
@@PaulMiguelPhotography I might as well be happy with it. The only long lenses that I believe to be significantly better, are just too expensive for my budget. Surely a 500 F4 is marvellous - and ten times the price!
Maybe I have a dud, but I've had the Sigma for a few years and always thought it to be a bit soft. Stopping down to F8-11, bright days, pulling back to 400 from 600 etc all helped, but overall it wasn't too great. Bought a 'well used' 400 5.6 the other day, came home to look at the images and my jaw dropped at how sharp they are by comparison.
Great video as always Paul, plenty of good honest advice and it’s a lens many people enjoy. Some brilliant images there as well, and it was good to see some of your published work.
When you are using this canon 400mm EF 5.6L you need make sure your shutter speeds don’t down go down below 500 SEC and I got the canon 70/300mm EF 4/5.6L lens and one day i will buy this classic canon lens which is about 15 years old
No, it's a good question that. Actually, somehow it doesn't. My brain said it should as it's simply increasing distance but I believe somehow the technology adjusts it. I don't understand really.. some kind of wizardry..
I'm new to photography, been doing for a month now, and I'm currently using the Canon 2000d and was looking at picking this up. Been told to use a L Lense to get crispy pics. Once I get this, I'm also thinking about upgrading the camera body
I just received a mint used copy this week and am very impressed so far. I've been using a Primos Tall Trigger Stick bi-pod which really helps me since I'm not very steady. I took it out briefly last night to check the bokeh and it's as good as I've heard. I think this is an awesome lens, especially if you can find a nice used one at a good price like I did. Thanks for the review.
Hi Paul, 2 great things have come out of me being in isolation, 1 discovered your youtube channel, 2 been able to watch every single one of your videos, some twice. I am new to wildlife photography so have a lot to learn, but you are going some way to remedying that. I have a question for you, I have a 80D canon, would you still recomend this lens(400mm f5.6L) as I am very tempted after watching your video, but my camera is crop sensor as you know. would there be a better lens as my go to bird lens, fairly limeted budget. Love everything you do, stay safe. Steve
Welcome to the world of wildlife photography Steve and thank you for subscribing to my channel. There aren't many options for budget lenses - a 300mm f 4 is worth considering (maybe with a 1.4x extender) and definitely this 400mm lens (I would go for that). If you can stretch to it a 100-400mm MARK II - is a great option. i'd also consider a sigma or tamron 500mm or 600mm.
Hi Steve just get one of these and it’ll work great with a crop sensor - I have a 7Dmark ii and it is actually better to use a crop sensor camera with it as it gives you more reach (equivalent to 640mm on full frame) Mine was bought second hand and it’s in perfect condition Cheers Noel
Paul Miguel Photography I’m enjoying the learning curve of this lens. Not having the ‘safety net’ of IS this last week has already made me improve other aspects of my technique and kit, such as weight distribution, body position and getting a decent, stable camera strap. It’s a great learning lens and a solid step up from the (still really good) Tamron VC DI 70-300mm that I’ve been using.
Great to hear Andrew. I would agree with those points for sure. It's always best to improve your technique, then if you do step up even more, you'll get even better shots!
Hi Paul, nice vid. I have this lens as my first and only wildlife/birding lens. i absolutely love it, you do need good light tho.. i dont think that flexibility is an issue for bird photographers since ive never been in a situation where i wanted less mm's. For people who are starting with birdphotography i highly recommend this lens, as it is really sharp and light. In good light it still amazes me how sharp the pictures are, even when the subject is 15meters away.
Great comments there. I would totally agree with you for those starting out in bird photography that this is a great lens. I since purchased a canon 500mm, mainly for the extra reach and faster focusing - but apart from that there's not that much in it.
yea i understand, since im a beginner (i photograph for 1,5 years now) and im still a student so i cant afford to pay like 10k for a bigger lens. The 400mm is a perfect lens for now. I ofcourse dream of the 500mm 4f but im not sure if it would be worth it for me, since its a lot bigger and heavier and i also would need another tripod that can handle the bigger lens.
Fantastic and very useful information especially the extender usage. Unfortunately not available freely but I have used a borrowed one and it’s a fantastic lens.
hello, do you think tamron 150-600mm g2, sigma 150-600mm sport or canon 400mm f5.6? I've heard that canon 400mm f5.6 is sharper and faster, which one do you think?
Hi Paul! Great video. Would you still recommend this lens for a EOS 80D body? I am getting some pretty good deals on the used camera store. I have a Tamron 100-400, but it lacks that critical sharpness.
I shoot flying birds with the 400mm F 5.6 L ( with a 1.4x extender ) on the Canon 7d Mark ii. When the light is a little weak, open it up and use a monopod or tripod ( if that doesn't work, its time to go home! ) I will admit that it is not the easiest lens to tame; but once you do, you will be pleased with the results.
Burkhold St. Rudderberg I have the Canon 400mm F5.6, the Canon 7D Mark II, with the Canon 1.4x extender III. Works ok with a single AF point at f/8, at 896mm. Bought a refurbished Canon 80D, and a refurbished Canon 100-400mm II from the Canon USA online store. With the Canon 1.4x Extender III, f/8 at 896mm, have up to 27 AF points. Great for BIF. Super sharp. The zoom is an added bonus, when a subject fills the frame. A great combination. Highly recommend it. Canon 80D, Canon 100-400mm II, Canon 1.4x III extender work great together.
I'm not sure I really understand Canon's lineup. Considering that the 7dII is supposed to be the top of the line crop sensor, why does the 80D beat it so bad in this regard?
@@TheMetalButcher Even now... 7D IIhas unbeatable focus whereas 80D 90D has nicer sensor and video but so so focus for BIF... Wish they'd gave us both in one with a 7D III...
Nice video Paul . I have this lens it was my first long lens but then I bought an old EF300mm f/2.8 and both 1.4x and 2 x teleconverters and I stopped using it for a while (and even thought about selling it off but glad I didn’t) but started using it again recently and rediscovered how brilliant it is especially for Birds in Flight were it’s lightness makes it so much easier to use than my big lens . Also found my big lens is much better in low light or where I need to use the Teleconverters for more reach but otherwise I prefer this little beauty for walking around in early morning light for bird photography
Great Video Paul .. .i'm pretty new to photography and want to get a little more into Bird & wildlife photography. my camera is an old Canon 600D . just picked up a 300mm F4 L IS and already feeling i need more reach .. would you suggest trying out an extender first or should i hunt around for a EF 400mm f5.6 ?? they are pretty rare here in Norway , but i've seen a few ef 100-400mm F4.5-5.6 L IS mk1 . there are missed opinions of that lens though . but the 400mm prime has a lot of fans i've seen
You could go either but I would honestly go for the 400mm. I think you'll get better quality, even though a bit less reach. the 100-400mm mk ii is excellent but mk i there are many people who found it too soft.
Awesome review ! Just purchased this lens used (looks new though) to improve on the less sharp 100-400 f4.5-5.6 version one ( the II is about as sharp as the 400 f5.6 but it's about 2.5 times the price and I believe in some scenario has slightly less appeal (but very little difference ) than this prime). There is a very good comparison by RC Scott Photography on Ytb worth watching with a blind 20 pictures evaluation, probably he most talking review I saw on IQ comparison of the two lenses.
I have the Canon 300mm f4 lens. Very good, but there is more focus hunting than I'd like, at least compared to my Tamron 150-600 G2. You mentioned the 400mm f5.6 isn't as fast in focusing as a 300mm f4. Have you compared the two in this regard?
@@PaulMiguelPhotography Loving the lens. It gives about the necessary reach Im comfortable with and the Images are Very SHARP. Can count every single hair on the birds hehe. Two downsides I found is I cant lower the shutter speed much and it is prone to Purple Fringing in Bright day against the Sun.
Nice video! I actually own this lens and I want to use it to start filming wildlife with my 70D. I would like the option of a little extra reach so I think my most economical option is to get a 1.4x teleconverter. Do you have any recommendations for which one to purchase?
Hi Joshua. yes a 1.4x extender can be used. For photography you might lose autofocus with the 70D? (anyone else reading want to confirm that?) Not sure if you have auto-focus for filming too.. my guess is no.? You want to keep the quality as good as you can - I use the Canon 1.4x Mark iii extender - I'd recommend that.
Nice review, have been looking at a good long lens for some wildlife, maybe a sigma zoom, up to 500 or 600mm, to go on my diminutive canon m5, not too sure about this lens though, its a very old piece of glass, and the older a lens is, the more abuse it has had, so im kinda on the fence with this one, more so with its lack of IS, there are a heck of a lot of long L lenses on ebay with IS at decent prices! Though to be fair, if your images are anything to go by then this lens is worth considering!
Hi Alexandra. Thanks for your comment. Yes, there will be newer options out there with IS at a reasonable price. Personally IS isn't too much of an issue for me as I'm usually shooting high speeds. For those in a tighter budget I think this lens is a great option. Thanks for your kind comments on my images!
Paul Miguel Photography Great review, I've been using this lens for 2.5 years and it's been brilliant for me. I will second everything you say and just add that on the 7dmk2 with 1.4 teleconverter the autofocus works on the centre point.
Thanks Mark and thanks for the info. regards the 7D mark 2 - when adding extenders to any lens it's always best to check the situation. Really appreciate your comment, thanks.
Hi Paul, Thanks for the informative videos on your channel which I have also discovered during lockdown and is keeping me educated! I am really getting into my wildlife photography but would really like to purchase a new lens. I have the Canon 4000D and currently a 75-300mm lens. I also recently purchased a x2 teleconverter which I unfortunately realised when it arrived...doesn't fit the lens I currently own :( so I have taken this as a sign to up my game and I am looking for the next step up effectively. Any recommendations/advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
@@PaulMiguelPhotography Bought it off FB marketplace and it's working a charm! Slight scuffing on the tripod mount thing but not super noticeable & does not affect use or anything in any way. Focuses super fast. Just gotta get used to the weight haha
I'm sorry, I can't remember. I think I tested it in another video. It just makes enough difference that I can get a very small bird large enough in the frame.
I use this lens with my R5 which has IBIS. When I purchased it years ago, it was $2K but the next prime the 400mm f/2.8 cost $9K and is heavy the 400mm DO is still expensive.
This lens has been around for over twenty years. It is a professional lens that lends itself to wildlife photography for many reasons. Its lightweight,so handheld shots are possible,images from this lens are sharp. And color renditions well it is a canon so colors are true to life. Bokeh looks good with this lens. Auto focus is very fast(not instantaneous)lthough the focus is always dead on. And because Canon has produced so many the used versions are available everywhere. It lacks super close focusing. But at 11 feet at 400mm any wildlife will be close enough to fill the frame. And image stabilization is of no use in action photography,as long as your subjects are moving which makes this lens perfect for wildlife. Plus instant manual focusing just grab the focus ring and auto is cancelled. But if you have the money the Canon 100-400mm i.s. mii L is a better option its versatile and tack sharp. I relaced my 400mm5.6 and the 70-200 mm lenses with the canon100-400mm ii with four stops of image stabilization,plus super close focusing for macro shots this lens is tack sharp. And traveling with two less pieces of gear now.But for a photographer on a budget the 400mm 5.6 is a professional lens at a great value. Great starter lens.
Thanks for pointing that out, but I see from your other comments that you simply get around that with a fast shutter speed. Out of interest, you have a picture of a chaffinch, I think, at 4:15. How did you get the plain background? I was thinking that if it was photoshop then you have managed to isolate the downy feathers very well at the bird's outline. If it's not photoshop how did you get the background?
Nothing like that is photoshopped in my images. It’s just choosing the background carefully and with the bird close, and with an extender on, you can get very diffused backdrops.
Hi, Watched a few of your videos and am going to try some Bird/Nature photography. Can you please tell me if your MOVO is the Carbon or the Basic option and would you be doing a review on it? Thankyou, Russ
Hi Russell. That's great to hear, I wish you luck with it. I've just checked and the movo isn't carbon fibre, it's aluminium. There are more expensive carbon fibre ones. I hadn't planned to do a review on my gimbal head - but it's something I might do in the future.
I get it, is a prime and it is sharp. But, I would say at 400mm, the reach is so so only. For beginners, I would recommend the Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 Contemporary and use an APS-C body with it to get that 1.6x crop factor for additional reach. That will give you a max focal length of 960mm which is plenty decent as far as birding goes. Personally, I will never touch the big primes such as the 600mm and 800mm, at well over 10,000 pounds a pop, to me they are really only for the professionals or unless you are super loaded. And anything shorter than 600mm to me kind of defeats the purpose.
Hi, thank you for the gret video.I have a question though.If you put an extension tube to get closer focus, doesn't it reduce the lens range by the same amount (whereas for example the 400mm with a 25mm extension tube would allow closer MFD but put the lens now at 300mm) ?
I’m tempted with this lens for the r6 with the ef/rf adapter can you tell me does the ef rf adapter alter the minimum focus distance at all or would I still need extension tubes as well as the ef/rf adapter ? And what’s the nearest focus I could achieve with the tubes cheers 👍👍
I'm not sure about the minimum focus with R6 - I don't think it would affect it.? I can't remember the exact difference but with a DSLR body it just bring it forward enough to largely fill the frame with small birds
Thanks Espen. I'm not 100% sure but I think it will autofocus with centre point only. If you search for this subject in photography forums you should find a definite answer.
Great question. I think the f/4 is a lot more money. Personally I'd stick with the f/5.6 simply because it's a lot cheaper and the reviews of the f/4 are just so polarised - I honestly believe they made a good batch and a bad batch!
hi paul will this lens 400 5,6 l usm be ok on a canon 80D and is there any problem with the lens because it has no IS only i am thinking of buying one and always had IS lenses and would like your comments
Should be fine Bill. IS is useful if you are not as steady holding.. or if you area likely to shoot more in low light. Otherwise I don't think IS is that necessary. I can shoot down to about 1/250 hand-held and get sharp shots.
I am considering buying this lense second hand. From what I read it is way sharper than the 100-400MK1 (the MK2 is way above my budget). Does the 1.4 extender withe the 400mm 5.6 work on a 6D body though?
I think it will auto-focus centre focus point only, but you would need to check it out to be 100%. It certainly won't let you use all focus points. Anyone who knows the answer to this feel free to add a comment to help Richard.
Hi Paul. Judging by your images this lens is as sharp as they come !! I know you swear by your 500 f/4 but this is a cracking lens. Just a shame I'm a Nikon user !! Thanks for sharing Paul.
Hi Tim - and thanks for commenting. It's a great option if you prefer something lighter but still has good image quality. Glad you're continuing to enjoy the videos.
Hi Paul, I am using canon 70d with this lens and I am struggling to get sharp images like yours using handheld. It is the type of camera body that matches with this lens count. I am now considering to sell this and go for sigma 150-600mm f5.6.
Hi there. My opinion is that the lens is more important for quality. That said, the more modern camera bodies are better quality and faster focusing. Technique is also important so it's difficult to say. Many people like the sigma but for me I think it would be too soft.
Crank up the iso a bit, without os and the long reach I had thought 1/1000 would be ok, I use it at 1/1600 and alls good - iso higher but 80D at least can handle it. 70D should be at least as good with the slightly larger pixels.
The lack of image stabilization is a huge compromise and this wasnt discusssed in the video. Save up and get a 100-400 mkii and it will transform your results!
Do you find the background easy to blur with the lense wide open at f/5.6? I'm trying to decide between this 400mm prime or a Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 to use with my 7d mark 2. Thanks.
The background will look a lot better with the sigma but I prefer this lens for sharpness. It’s a difficult one - when I do use this lens for wildlife portraits I just have to work harder for the backgrounds.
I've generally followed the advice to spend more on the lens than the body. So I'm not sure how applicable this review will be to people with crop sensors. I guess due to the weight factor it's still a really good option.
Thank you Josue. I've had similar problems myself. You will lose sharpness and clarity with the extender on. With an extender I actually try to keep the ISO lower (so a slower shutter speed). Another tip is to stop down a bit - such as f9, f10. It might be a bit sharper.
@@PaulMiguelPhotography No worries. Thanks again for your time! Mine should be here soon and I don't think I'll be disappointed. I hate making decisions and I think trying to decide between this and the sigma was causing some FOMO. I ordered the 400mm 5.6 and a 24mm 2.8. Once all these storms pass I'm gonna get out and put them to use. Thanks for your excellent content. ✌️
When I used Canon equipment I owned the 400mm f5.6: but because it's an unstabilised lens I did not keep it very long. I just could not obtain sharp enough images handheld - even at relatively high shutter speeds. I replaced it with a Canon 100 - 400mm f4.5/5.6. For me, the difference was remarkable when used with both my 7D mark II and 70D. For Nikon users (I own a D500), the Nikkor 300mm f4 PF VR + TC14EIII is an amazing lens. It is incredibly lightweight, fast and sharp, though quite expensive.
Thanks for commenting and sharing your experiences. I don't have too many problems getting sharp images - even down to 1/400 for example. For me I find it's the speed of autofocus that can sometimes be the let down. Is it the mark ii version of the 100-400mm you have? It really does look like another excellent value lens. I've heard the sharpness is really impressive for a zoom
Thanks for this informative video! I have one question however: How would the sharpness of this lens with a 1.4 teleconverter compare to, maybe the sigma sports 150-600 or another zoom as such at their longest distance? Would this prime with a teleconverter still be sharper?
That's a great question. I will use it with an extender occasionally but in my opinion it's not very good. Might be similar to the sigma or probably a bit worse.. but I'm guessing.
Everyone knows a zoom lens will never be as sharp as a prime lens. So yes by all means get the 400mm prime lens. If you want a FANTASTIC zoom for wildlife, or sports get the Canon 100-400mm mii version it's tack sharp and pair it with the newest Canon 1.4 tele evtender miii this lens and tele extender combo can't be beat. Plus with four stops of image stabilization you'll get the shot handheld. The lens is a little heavy but not near as the larger primes.
Hi I have the 500 f4 and the 400 f5.6 but struggle to hold the 500 f4 which is a shame as it's sharper?Do you use your 500 for birds in flight or the 400 f5.6?
It's difficult to hand-hold the 500mm Adrian. It will be faster and sharper for flight shots though. I do use it for flight photography but usually have it rested somewhere then just pick it up when I need to. I can only hand-hold for brief periods.
Hi Timothy. I can't really give you an answer for this as I've never measured anything. It makes a reasonable enough difference for me when photographing anything blue tit sized or smaller, in that it fills the frame better.
I own a 70-200 2,8 L is II (use it on a 7D MK1) and looking for more focal length. 400f/5,6 (like this one) I could achieve (relatively cheap, but a few more lenses equals decreased contrast) with a 2x Teleconverter on the 70-200 2,8 objective - but I guess I want more f - and I like Zooms - so I'm thinking about buying a 150-600 Tamron (G2) or Sigma "Sport". Or choose this one lens? Hmm... What would You prefer in my situation?
Hi. It's a difficult question. I would avoid teleconverters on zooms generally speaking. Many like the 150-600 Tamron and Sigma but I have never tried them myself.
Yes it is compatible. I haven't used it on the 80D myself but it should work pretty well. You'll also get cropping factor to give the effect of magnifying the image too.
Adventurous Eater hi there. I don't worry too much about IS. most of the time if hand held, my shutter speeds are around 1000th a second, ad IS doesn't make a difference then really
So far I’m loving my 400mm cheers for the videos need to get a 1.4 x I’m also interested to see how it works with the 2x on the R6 as that allows the af to focus at darker aperture’s so be good to try that out 👍👍
@@PaulMiguelPhotography yeah I tried the 2x the sf works great with eye tracking even down to f36 lol not a problem at all with the R6 and took some pics today of a lil dunock snd it’s feathers are really spot on sharpness well impressed with it
@@EastCoastDigs the 400 isn’t a big lens spec when compared to lugging a 500mm f4 around the lack of is on the lens let’s the lens down the ibis on rf bodies helps a touch although I’m waiting on comparisons between the rf 100-400 and the 400L on mirrorless bodies before I think about swapping it to a rf lens as I do like the brighter lenses and like I say the sharpness of the 400 5.6 is spot on I need to have a good session with it now mounted onto a R7 and try that with the 1.4 iii or 2xiii teleconverters with the 1.6 crop of the apsc sensor and see how that holds things together
@@tintin69rr I just got the 400 4.6 just as a mess around lens. I figure by basic rules 1/500 is about as low as I can shoot this lens curious if you could get it much lower with r6, I’m a little shaky but I suppose most people are at 400mm
Hi Javier. That's a really good question. First to say: I also have a 500mm f4 which is superior to both lenses. I tried the 100-400mm mark ii out for the day and it's an excellent lens and I'm sure it's considerably better than the mark i version. It's difficult to describe the difference in quality - I would say it's probably a little sharper, and a little faster. Personally I just don't seem to like zooms - there's more to think about and the weight isn't distributed as nicely. For most people I think the 100-400mm is an ideal lens and great quality. For me - I'm pretty happy with the fixed 400mm.. but I'm probably in a huge minority! If Canon updated the fixed 400mm that would be my choice!
The 100-400 absolutely kills this lense. Its sharper, has image stabilization and focuses much closer. No contest. My mate who owns the 400 5.6 is currently saving to buy the 100-400 because he cant get the types of shots I can. It really is night and day the difference.
@@markrigg6623 Wait... The 100-400 II doesn't kill that lens. Look first the side by side comparison from RC Scott Photography with 20 blind pictures. I would say pictures are between 90 to 100% as goodon the zoom than the prime, but looking at the samples from the vid, one can still see a better color gradation, nicer bokeh (not the blur, but the rendering) and a slightly better 3D/separation feel with the prime. Not much, but I would say that as much as the 100-400 II impresses, especially VS the first generation, if it wasn't for the fantastic assets the zoom range and stabilization the 100-400 has, in perfect condition on a tripod, I might still go with the 30 years old prime. But don't take my word for granted, just finely look at the pictures from RC Scott and you'll see, very very close, but there is still that feel on some pics that the overall rendering can be slightly (very slightly) more muddy with backgrounds. But we're splitting hair here, and it's true that the 100-400 is an exceptional lens about equaling the old prime with more flxibility, MFD and good IS...
@@alanalain4884 Yeah I realise the 400 5.6 has intrinsically good optics and when it's in the right conditions it will yield nice sharp images. But there's more to it than that. When used in a variety of conditions side by side the 100-400 it just doesn't yield anywhere near the consistent results I get with the zoom. But yes I know it's a sharp lens. My 100 - 400 is just perceptably sharper but is much more versatile and capable overall. My mate whom I used to shoot with upgraded when he experienced the difference. Thanks for the comment
Don't get the cheaper Neewar type heads - they are awful so don't help. I find for this though an excellent head is the koolehaoda E3 mini Tripod Head Ballhead Ø44mm ball and superb, really great friction control so does it all. I have an E2 on a monopod and was so impressed I bought an E3 for my tripod to replace the original Benro. The prinsipal is the same as Acrotech which are incredibly expensive.
Hello all, I am a wildlife photographer and mg best photos are in Macro photography! I am wanting to start getting in touch with magazine's etc. As being a photographer is my dream job. I am wondering how to get in touch with magazine's to see if they're interested in collaborating and if anybody knows any decent wildlife magazines!? Thanks so much for you time.
There are many magazines. Photography, local life, nature. Think outside the box too - even gardening magazines might be interested.. or walking titles for example. Good luck!
Don't get the point of a fixed 400mm lens.....crop city I guess ?.....can't shoot close.....can't reach far enough.....don't get it.....beautiful pics of little things ! A luxury lens in a way....specific.....would I like one.....sure !
Yes, absolutely true. I was so annoyed when I realised I'd missed it out. I put in the description later on. I love this lens.. but yes it has no image stabilization.
I own canon 80d+tamron 150-600mm g2 for bird photography. I can only afford one canon 500mm f4 (used) or 1dx? Which one you think? 80d+canon 500mm f4 or Canon 1dx+tamron 150-600 g2? instagram @lokgurung Thanks
Hi Lok. That's a very difficult question you've asked me! I can't give you a definite answer. I think you'll get pretty good results from both options. In the past, I have had to make the same decision - and usually opted for the better lens rather than the body. That said, I would consider how you will be using the lens (i.e. weight) and how important speed of focusing is. Those are two big factors. Good luck!
Maher Ibrahim well, as a bird lover photographer, you need to have better camera which has better iso, dynamic range and better shutter speed. Most of the time I need to shot above 1600+ iso, Anyway thanks you 👍
Lok Gurung I can tell you from my experience. I have the Canon 80D and the Canon 5mark 2 and the new one Canon 5D mark 4 yes the 5D4 is rendering beautiful pictures but I still can get the same picture on the 5D 2 under the right exposure, but the 80D crop factor is also important sometimes as it’s makes it easier to reach. But I would be happy with a 500mm and an 80D.
Lok Gurung how do you like the Tamron? I bought it and send it back because it was not sharp? The pictures I got were like a snapshot not an artful pictures I get from the Canon 400mm.
I can vouch for this lens too as I use it as my walkabout lens. Very sharp an lightweight. In good light it shines, but can struggle a little in bad light days as you say. But overall, I would never get rid of it.
Nice factual review Paul...well done!
ATB
Nice to hear from you and thanks for the feedback. Really great to hear your thoughts on the lens, which we seem to agree on. It's not perfect - but for the price.. what a great buy!
Guy contradicts himself and is way off mark on sharpness.
@@martingilchrist7063 true, plus it works just fine in any daytime situation outdoors, just bump up to 1600ISO. Any DSLR can do that cleanly and the 1D Mark IV from 2010 can do 8000 ISO clean so you can shoot this indoors and at night on brightly lit sports fields like baseball and football and other brightlit outdoor areas. Like when I was at walmart parking lot earlier.
sorry to be so off topic but does any of you know of a tool to get back into an instagram account..?
I somehow forgot my login password. I would love any assistance you can give me.
@Roberto Quinton Instablaster =)
I've had this lens for going on 3 years & agree with all your points. If only it had IS. I'd accept a little more weight for more usability in lower light with slower shutter speeds. I'd upgrade to an IS version in a heartbeat.
Thanks. Yes I think you're right about the low light ability.
IMO...One of the best lenses ever made by Canon, I love it!!
Thank you! I would agree. The quality you get for the price is very good.
The 600mm f4 isn't that far off in price from the 400mm f5.6
@@PotatoeChipz I paid $700 for a used 5.6, nowhere close to what a used 600 cost.
If it had IS. But it doesn't, so 300mm F4 it is. Can get it on eBay for like 400$ vs 600$ of the Non-IS400.
@@KandiKlover I had the 300 f/4 and found the images to be soft so I/S was no help. I always used a high shutter speed to photograph birds in flight so I/S wasn't an issue. Honestly, I dislike I/S and always turn it off if the lens has it.
I bought this lens recently largely thanks to your recommendation.
It's been wonderful for me so far, absolutely brutal to use handheld, but on a monopod it's no issue. Despite the difficulty, shooting with it is downright addictive due to just how gorgeous it's images are.
Great! It is sharp if you use it right.
Another good video Paul - thanks. I used this lens for around eight years, with a 500D, a 7D and then a 7D mk2 before part ex'ing for a 100-400 f5.6 mk2 and agree with you. Great lens, lightweight and as sharp as a tack.
Thanks very much. Now, you are the perfect person to ask this question: having used the 400mm f5.6 on those bodies - how do you compare the sharpness of the 100-400 mk 2. I'd be really interested to know if you think there's much in it??
Thanks for the information,, I am thinking to buy this lens for my Canon 90d after watching your video and sure it will not disappoint me .🙏
It is still a good lens. Hope you are happy!
I just bought this lens and definitely not used to prime lenses but this lens is AMAZING and I can't wait to really get to know it and use it more!
FYI, if your a Nikon shooter, the 200-500 f5.6 is a ridiculous value. Paired with the D500 is an incredible value wildlife package.
Hi John. Sounds good advice for Nikon shooters. Have always had Canon myself so don't know too much about the Nikon options. Their shutters always sound nicer than mine though..!
John J Nikon D3s +sigma 150-600mm S. It rocks!
Completely agree with you.
I bought the Sigma 150-600 Contemporary, and I love it. According to the tests that I’ve seen it’s about the same sharpness as this Canon 400mm, and it offers image stabilisation as well as longer reach and greater flexibility. Focus speed seems fine.
It's a good value lens for sure. Good to hear that you're happy with it.
@@PaulMiguelPhotography I might as well be happy with it. The only long lenses that I believe to be significantly better, are just too expensive for my budget. Surely a 500 F4 is marvellous - and ten times the price!
Maybe I have a dud, but I've had the Sigma for a few years and always thought it to be a bit soft. Stopping down to F8-11, bright days, pulling back to 400 from 600 etc all helped, but overall it wasn't too great.
Bought a 'well used' 400 5.6 the other day, came home to look at the images and my jaw dropped at how sharp they are by comparison.
Great video as always Paul, plenty of good honest advice and it’s a lens many people enjoy. Some brilliant images there as well, and it was good to see some of your published work.
Cheers Mark. All the images were taken with this specific lens. As you say, it's a lens many people appreciate.
When you are using this canon 400mm EF 5.6L you need make sure your shutter speeds don’t down go down below 500 SEC and I got the canon 70/300mm EF 4/5.6L lens and one day i will buy this classic canon lens which is about 15 years old
Whatever lens you have on your camera, the shots are fabulous.
I'll take that Robert. Many thanks!
Hi just , probably a dumb question but if i add an EF to EF-M adapter and then add the 400mm f5.6 will the adapter act like an extension tube ?
No, it's a good question that. Actually, somehow it doesn't. My brain said it should as it's simply increasing distance but I believe somehow the technology adjusts it. I don't understand really.. some kind of wizardry..
I'm new to photography, been doing for a month now, and I'm currently using the Canon 2000d and was looking at picking this up. Been told to use a L Lense to get crispy pics. Once I get this, I'm also thinking about upgrading the camera body
An L Lens will probably help the overall quality. Good luck with the upgrade and don't think you have to have the most up to date models.
I just received a mint used copy this week and am very impressed so far. I've been using a Primos Tall Trigger Stick bi-pod which really helps me since I'm not very steady. I took it out briefly last night to check the bokeh and it's as good as I've heard. I think this is an awesome lens, especially if you can find a nice used one at a good price like I did. Thanks for the review.
Great stuff. Yes, a used one in good condition is a good buy. Glad the review was useful
Hi Paul, 2 great things have come out of me being in isolation, 1 discovered your youtube channel, 2 been able to watch every single one of your videos, some twice.
I am new to wildlife photography so have a lot to learn, but you are going some way to remedying that. I have a question for you, I have a 80D canon, would you still recomend this lens(400mm f5.6L) as I am very tempted after watching your video, but my camera is crop sensor as you know. would there be a better lens as my go to bird lens, fairly limeted budget.
Love everything you do, stay safe.
Steve
Welcome to the world of wildlife photography Steve and thank you for subscribing to my channel. There aren't many options for budget lenses - a 300mm f 4 is worth considering (maybe with a 1.4x extender) and definitely this 400mm lens (I would go for that). If you can stretch to it a 100-400mm MARK II - is a great option. i'd also consider a sigma or tamron 500mm or 600mm.
Hi Steve just get one of these and it’ll work great with a crop sensor - I have a 7Dmark ii and it is actually better to use a crop sensor camera with it as it gives you more reach (equivalent to 640mm on full frame) Mine was bought second hand and it’s in perfect condition
Cheers
Noel
Exelent information. I ve learned everything what i need to know. Cheers
Thanks Paul. After delaying for months, I just bought one based on this video.
Hi Andrew. I really hope it doesn't disappoint.! There are sharper, faster lenses out there. But this one's great value for cost.
Paul Miguel Photography I’m enjoying the learning curve of this lens. Not having the ‘safety net’ of IS this last week has already made me improve other aspects of my technique and kit, such as weight distribution, body position and getting a decent, stable camera strap. It’s a great learning lens and a solid step up from the (still really good) Tamron VC DI 70-300mm that I’ve been using.
Great to hear Andrew. I would agree with those points for sure. It's always best to improve your technique, then if you do step up even more, you'll get even better shots!
Hi Paul, nice vid. I have this lens as my first and only wildlife/birding lens. i absolutely love it, you do need good light tho.. i dont think that flexibility is an issue for bird photographers since ive never been in a situation where i wanted less mm's.
For people who are starting with birdphotography i highly recommend this lens, as it is really sharp and light. In good light it still amazes me how sharp the pictures are, even when the subject is 15meters away.
Great comments there. I would totally agree with you for those starting out in bird photography that this is a great lens. I since purchased a canon 500mm, mainly for the extra reach and faster focusing - but apart from that there's not that much in it.
yea i understand, since im a beginner (i photograph for 1,5 years now) and im still a student so i cant afford to pay like 10k for a bigger lens. The 400mm is a perfect lens for now. I ofcourse dream of the 500mm 4f but im not sure if it would be worth it for me, since its a lot bigger and heavier and i also would need another tripod that can handle the bigger lens.
Fantastic and very useful information especially the extender usage. Unfortunately not available freely but I have used a borrowed one and it’s a fantastic lens.
Thanks for that. This is a very old video, but I still use the lens now for walkabout photography. And sometimes abroad too
Enjoyed this Paul. Would like to see you do a similar one for macro lenses.
Thanks Andrew. I'll take your suggestion on board and it might be something I do in the future.
hello, do you think tamron 150-600mm g2, sigma 150-600mm sport or canon 400mm f5.6? I've heard that canon 400mm f5.6 is sharper and faster, which one do you think?
Personally I think the 400mm is sharper, and probably faster.
Hi Paul! Great video.
Would you still recommend this lens for a EOS 80D body? I am getting some pretty good deals on the used camera store.
I have a Tamron 100-400, but it lacks that critical sharpness.
Yes, absolutely. There are drawbacks as mentioned in the video but it's a great lens. You should definitely notice a difference in sharpness.
I shoot flying birds with the 400mm F 5.6 L ( with a 1.4x extender ) on the Canon 7d Mark ii. When the light is a little weak, open it up and use a monopod or tripod ( if that doesn't work, its time to go home! )
I will admit that it is not the easiest lens to tame; but once you do, you will be pleased with the results.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Nice combination - that will give you plenty of reach.!
Burkhold St. Rudderberg I have the Canon 400mm F5.6, the Canon 7D Mark II, with the Canon 1.4x extender III.
Works ok with a single AF point at f/8, at 896mm.
Bought a refurbished Canon 80D, and a refurbished Canon 100-400mm II from the Canon USA online store.
With the Canon 1.4x Extender III, f/8 at 896mm, have up to 27 AF points. Great for BIF.
Super sharp. The zoom is an added bonus, when a subject fills the frame.
A great combination. Highly recommend it.
Canon 80D, Canon 100-400mm II, Canon 1.4x III extender work great together.
You're having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have!
I'm not sure I really understand Canon's lineup. Considering that the 7dII is supposed to be the top of the line crop sensor, why does the 80D beat it so bad in this regard?
@@TheMetalButcher Even now... 7D IIhas unbeatable focus whereas 80D 90D has nicer sensor and video but so so focus for BIF... Wish they'd gave us both in one with a 7D III...
I got one of these canon 400MM EF 5.6L lenses and the canon 300MM 2.8L to all the way to 600MM EF 4 you need from £3.000 to as much as £10.000 to buy
Nice video Paul . I have this lens it was my first long lens but then I bought an old EF300mm f/2.8 and both 1.4x and 2 x teleconverters and I stopped using it for a while (and even thought about selling it off but glad I didn’t) but started using it again recently and rediscovered how brilliant it is especially for Birds in Flight were it’s lightness makes it so much easier to use than my big lens .
Also found my big lens is much better in low light or where I need to use the Teleconverters for more reach but otherwise I prefer this little beauty for walking around in early morning light for bird photography
That lens is great. One of the best lenses Canon ever made. I'd be happy with one.
How will this work well with the Rebel T6s.
Great Video Paul .. .i'm pretty new to photography and want to get a little more into Bird & wildlife photography. my camera is an old Canon 600D . just picked up a 300mm F4 L IS and already feeling i need more reach .. would you suggest trying out an extender first or should i hunt around for a EF 400mm f5.6 ?? they are pretty rare here in Norway , but i've seen a few ef 100-400mm F4.5-5.6 L IS mk1 . there are missed opinions of that lens though . but the 400mm prime has a lot of fans i've seen
You could go either but I would honestly go for the 400mm. I think you'll get better quality, even though a bit less reach. the 100-400mm mk ii is excellent but mk i there are many people who found it too soft.
@@PaulMiguelPhotography thanks for the advice Paul .i actually sold the 300mm today & have my eye on a 400mm..
Works well on Sony A7/A9 as well with adapter 👍
Awesome review ! Just purchased this lens used (looks new though) to improve on the less sharp 100-400 f4.5-5.6 version one ( the II is about as sharp as the 400 f5.6 but it's about 2.5 times the price and I believe in some scenario has slightly less appeal (but very little difference ) than this prime).
There is a very good comparison by RC Scott Photography on Ytb worth watching with a blind 20 pictures evaluation, probably he most talking review I saw on IQ comparison of the two lenses.
Alan, I'd agree with everything you said about this lens.
I have the Canon 300mm f4 lens. Very good, but there is more focus hunting than I'd like, at least compared to my Tamron 150-600 G2. You mentioned the 400mm f5.6 isn't as fast in focusing as a 300mm f4. Have you compared the two in this regard?
Hi Bill. Yes, I’ve compared them in good light for very fast birds in flight. I personally think the 300mm edges it for speed of focus.
Got a very beaten up version of this lens today for $300 lol. Tested for two days, optics and AF works fine.
Great. It may be beat up but if it's sharp that's all that counts. Good luck and enjoy!
@@PaulMiguelPhotography Loving the lens. It gives about the necessary reach Im comfortable with and the Images are Very SHARP. Can count every single hair on the birds hehe.
Two downsides I found is I cant lower the shutter speed much and it is prone to Purple Fringing in Bright day against the Sun.
You got lucky at 300...
Nice video! I actually own this lens and I want to use it to start filming wildlife with my 70D. I would like the option of a little extra reach so I think my most economical option is to get a 1.4x teleconverter. Do you have any recommendations for which one to purchase?
Hi Joshua. yes a 1.4x extender can be used. For photography you might lose autofocus with the 70D? (anyone else reading want to confirm that?) Not sure if you have auto-focus for filming too.. my guess is no.? You want to keep the quality as good as you can - I use the Canon 1.4x Mark iii extender - I'd recommend that.
Nice review, have been looking at a good long lens for some wildlife, maybe a sigma zoom, up to 500 or 600mm, to go on my diminutive canon m5, not too sure about this lens though, its a very old piece of glass, and the older a lens is, the more abuse it has had, so im kinda on the fence with this one, more so with its lack of IS, there are a heck of a lot of long L lenses on ebay with IS at decent prices! Though to be fair, if your images are anything to go by then this lens is worth considering!
Hi Alexandra. Thanks for your comment. Yes, there will be newer options out there with IS at a reasonable price. Personally IS isn't too much of an issue for me as I'm usually shooting high speeds. For those in a tighter budget I think this lens is a great option. Thanks for your kind comments on my images!
Alexandra Starr Photography definitely get this over any other one. I tried the Tamrron and the Sigma I didn’t like them both.
Paul Miguel Photography Great review, I've been using this lens for 2.5 years and it's been brilliant for me. I will second everything you say and just add that on the 7dmk2 with 1.4 teleconverter the autofocus works on the centre point.
Thanks Mark and thanks for the info. regards the 7D mark 2 - when adding extenders to any lens it's always best to check the situation. Really appreciate your comment, thanks.
Nice
I recently bought one of these very gently used for $600.
I'd rather have the newer version of the 100-400mm but it is much more expensive
Hi Paul, Thanks for the informative videos on your channel which I have also discovered during lockdown and is keeping me educated! I am really getting into my wildlife photography but would really like to purchase a new lens. I have the Canon 4000D and currently a 75-300mm lens. I also recently purchased a x2 teleconverter which I unfortunately realised when it arrived...doesn't fit the lens I currently own :( so I have taken this as a sign to up my game and I am looking for the next step up effectively. Any recommendations/advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
I think a lot of the zooms don't fit extenders - it probably needs to be an L lens. I would also check the 100-400mm Canon - very good.
Paul Miguel Photography Thanks for taking the time to reply, I’ll carry on researching :)
Going to pick this lens up, found a steal (280£) and will be my main lens for wildlife for sure with my 80D.
Brilliant.That's an amazing price. If you see any more let me know.. mine could do with a replacement!
@@PaulMiguelPhotography Bought it off FB marketplace and it's working a charm! Slight scuffing on the tripod mount thing but not super noticeable & does not affect use or anything in any way. Focuses super fast. Just gotta get used to the weight haha
could runs well in my 40D? many thanks
Yes, a decent option if at the lower end of the budget.
What is the MFD reduced to with a 25mm extension tube?
I'm sorry, I can't remember. I think I tested it in another video. It just makes enough difference that I can get a very small bird large enough in the frame.
Hello from italy and thanks for the advice. how many meters are you from the photographed birds?
Thank you
I am often very close - if a small bird then 15 feet or less.
I use this lens with my R5 which has IBIS. When I purchased it years ago, it was $2K but the next prime the 400mm f/2.8 cost $9K and is heavy the 400mm DO is still expensive.
Excellent. There are no real options between this lens and the very expensive ones (Canon) Nothing to bridge the gap.
This lens has been around for over twenty years. It is a professional lens that lends itself to wildlife photography for many reasons. Its lightweight,so handheld shots are possible,images from this lens are sharp. And color renditions well it is a canon so colors are true to life. Bokeh looks good with this lens. Auto focus is very fast(not instantaneous)lthough the focus is always dead on. And because Canon has produced so many the used versions are available everywhere. It lacks super close focusing. But at 11 feet at 400mm any wildlife will be close enough to fill the frame. And image stabilization is of no use in action photography,as long as your subjects are moving which makes this lens perfect for wildlife. Plus instant manual focusing just grab the focus ring and auto is cancelled. But if you have the money the Canon 100-400mm i.s. mii L is a better option its versatile and tack sharp.
I relaced my 400mm5.6 and the 70-200 mm lenses with the canon100-400mm ii with four stops of image stabilization,plus super close focusing for macro shots this lens is tack sharp. And traveling with two less pieces of gear now.But for a photographer on a budget the 400mm 5.6 is a professional lens at a great value. Great starter lens.
Wonderful write up that. Yes, I'd agree with pretty much everything there. Spot on!
I have it and I love it, thanks for your info and videos
You're welcome. I think a lot of people appreciate the value of this lens. Hard to beat in my opinion.
Good review, I shall watch it again before I buy. Thanks.
Cheers Paul. I forgot to mention in the video the lack of any image stabilisation.
Thanks for pointing that out, but I see from your other comments that you simply get around that with a fast shutter speed. Out of interest, you have a picture of a chaffinch, I think, at 4:15. How did you get the plain background? I was thinking that if it was photoshop then you have managed to isolate the downy feathers very well at the bird's outline. If it's not photoshop how did you get the background?
Nothing like that is photoshopped in my images. It’s just choosing the background carefully and with the bird close, and with an extender on, you can get very diffused backdrops.
OK, thanks, I'll bare the extender in mind - you did mention it in the video. Cheers.
hello, would you recommend the Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM, which was released in 1998, the first series of this lens? Is it a good lens?
There's different opinions. Personally I think it's too soft. The mark ii is much better.
@@PaulMiguelPhotography thank you
Hi, Watched a few of your videos and am going to try some Bird/Nature photography. Can you please tell me if your MOVO is the Carbon or the Basic option and would you be doing a review on it? Thankyou, Russ
Hi Russell. That's great to hear, I wish you luck with it. I've just checked and the movo isn't carbon fibre, it's aluminium. There are more expensive carbon fibre ones. I hadn't planned to do a review on my gimbal head - but it's something I might do in the future.
I get it, is a prime and it is sharp. But, I would say at 400mm, the reach is so so only. For beginners, I would recommend the Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 Contemporary and use an APS-C body with it to get that 1.6x crop factor for additional reach. That will give you a max focal length of 960mm which is plenty decent as far as birding goes. Personally, I will never touch the big primes such as the 600mm and 800mm, at well over 10,000 pounds a pop, to me they are really only for the professionals or unless you are super loaded. And anything shorter than 600mm to me kind of defeats the purpose.
I would agree that he sigma is also a good option and good value for money too.
Hi, thank you for the gret video.I have a question though.If you put an extension tube to get closer focus, doesn't it reduce the lens range by the same amount (whereas for example the 400mm with a 25mm extension tube would allow closer MFD but put the lens now at 300mm) ?
It does reduce the maximum focusing distance, yes. You still have the same power, you just can't focus far away.
I’m tempted with this lens for the r6 with the ef/rf adapter can you tell me does the ef rf adapter alter the minimum focus distance at all or would I still need extension tubes as well as the ef/rf adapter ? And what’s the nearest focus I could achieve with the tubes cheers 👍👍
I'm not sure about the minimum focus with R6 - I don't think it would affect it.? I can't remember the exact difference but with a DSLR body it just bring it forward enough to largely fill the frame with small birds
@@PaulMiguelPhotography nice one looking forward to getting the gear and finding out how well it all works 👍👍
Really good review Paul! I have the 7D mark ii, do you know if the autofocus would work with the 1.4x extender on it for this body? Cheers
Thanks Espen. I'm not 100% sure but I think it will autofocus with centre point only. If you search for this subject in photography forums you should find a definite answer.
Of course it does you silly silly person spending $1700 and asking if it supports the 1.4x aftermarkets.
Which would you choose between the 400 5.6 or 400 f4 do mk1?
Great question. I think the f/4 is a lot more money. Personally I'd stick with the f/5.6 simply because it's a lot cheaper and the reviews of the f/4 are just so polarised - I honestly believe they made a good batch and a bad batch!
@@PaulMiguelPhotography whats wrong with the bad batch?
hi paul will this lens 400 5,6 l usm be ok on a canon 80D and is there any problem with the lens because it has no IS only i am thinking of buying one and always had IS lenses and would like your comments
Should be fine Bill. IS is useful if you are not as steady holding.. or if you area likely to shoot more in low light. Otherwise I don't think IS is that necessary. I can shoot down to about 1/250 hand-held and get sharp shots.
@@PaulMiguelPhotography ok thanks
I am considering buying this lense second hand. From what I read it is way sharper than the 100-400MK1 (the MK2 is way above my budget). Does the 1.4 extender withe the 400mm 5.6 work on a 6D body though?
I think it will auto-focus centre focus point only, but you would need to check it out to be 100%. It certainly won't let you use all focus points. Anyone who knows the answer to this feel free to add a comment to help Richard.
@@PaulMiguelPhotography I have this lens on a 7D2 with extender 1.4 mk2 i get OK autofocus but with extender 2x mk 3 I have to manual focus.
Great lens love it!
Hi Paul. Judging by your images this lens is as sharp as they come !! I know you swear by your 500 f/4 but this is a cracking lens. Just a shame I'm a Nikon user !! Thanks for sharing Paul.
Hi Tim - and thanks for commenting. It's a great option if you prefer something lighter but still has good image quality. Glad you're continuing to enjoy the videos.
Nikon have new 500mm pf with vr now !!
Great video:) Thank you
Is it possible to get sharp images of birds without IS?
With and without IS, yes.
What do you think about the nexoptic doubletake with 500mm focal length and f2.5 aperture?
Hi Steve. Sorry, I have no idea what that is!
Hi Paul, I am using canon 70d with this lens and I am struggling to get sharp images like yours using handheld. It is the type of camera body that matches with this lens count. I am now considering to sell this and go for sigma 150-600mm f5.6.
Hi there. My opinion is that the lens is more important for quality. That said, the more modern camera bodies are better quality and faster focusing. Technique is also important so it's difficult to say. Many people like the sigma but for me I think it would be too soft.
Crank up the iso a bit, without os and the long reach I had thought 1/1000 would be ok, I use it at 1/1600 and alls good - iso higher but 80D at least can handle it. 70D should be at least as good with the slightly larger pixels.
The lack of image stabilization is a huge compromise and this wasnt discusssed in the video. Save up and get a 100-400 mkii and it will transform your results!
Do you find the background easy to blur with the lense wide open at f/5.6? I'm trying to decide between this 400mm prime or a Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 to use with my 7d mark 2. Thanks.
The background will look a lot better with the sigma but I prefer this lens for sharpness. It’s a difficult one - when I do use this lens for wildlife portraits I just have to work harder for the backgrounds.
hi paul would it be any good fitted to a canon 80d
I think it would do a good job Bill. Never used an 80D myself.
I've generally followed the advice to spend more on the lens than the body. So I'm not sure how applicable this review will be to people with crop sensors. I guess due to the weight factor it's still a really good option.
It's fairly good advice - something I often tell clients. But of course there's always exceptions.
great video I have 5d mark iv + 400mm prime + 1.4x teleconverter and have problems with getting the image sharp what you recommend me (handheld)
Thank you Josue. I've had similar problems myself. You will lose sharpness and clarity with the extender on. With an extender I actually try to keep the ISO lower (so a slower shutter speed). Another tip is to stop down a bit - such as f9, f10. It might be a bit sharper.
Paul Miguel Photography thank you but you know what I figured out? I had the lens on 3.8 and not 8.3 that maybe a problem!? Lol 🤦🏻♂️
What about the Tamron 150-600 g2
What do you think about it
I think they are good value, but for me a little too soft - and maybe not fast enough focusing.
@@PaulMiguelPhotography and heavier !
When using the 1.4x III TC, do you find the AF still effective for birds in flight?
Hi Bill. It can be used but it becomes quite slow in my opinion. Not ideal for flight but reasonable for static shots.
Good and better video presentation
Thank you.
I've heard this lens is soft on APS-C cameras...is this accurate?
I'm sorry, I'm not sure about that Dalton. Only used on full frame myself.
@@PaulMiguelPhotography No worries. Thanks again for your time! Mine should be here soon and I don't think I'll be disappointed. I hate making decisions and I think trying to decide between this and the sigma was causing some FOMO. I ordered the 400mm 5.6 and a 24mm 2.8. Once all these storms pass I'm gonna get out and put them to use. Thanks for your excellent content. ✌️
@@daltonramsey9585 Best of luck mate. And thanks for the support
Proud owner of Canon 400 😄🤘
Very good channel!
When I used Canon equipment I owned the 400mm f5.6: but because it's an unstabilised lens I did not keep it very long. I just could not obtain sharp enough images handheld - even at relatively high shutter speeds. I replaced it with a Canon 100 - 400mm f4.5/5.6. For me, the difference was remarkable when used with both my 7D mark II and 70D. For Nikon users (I own a D500), the Nikkor 300mm f4 PF VR + TC14EIII is an amazing lens. It is incredibly lightweight, fast and sharp, though quite expensive.
Thanks for commenting and sharing your experiences. I don't have too many problems getting sharp images - even down to 1/400 for example. For me I find it's the speed of autofocus that can sometimes be the let down. Is it the mark ii version of the 100-400mm you have? It really does look like another excellent value lens. I've heard the sharpness is really impressive for a zoom
Yeah you're right the lack of stabilization really handicaps this lense.
Thanks for this informative video! I have one question however:
How would the sharpness of this lens with a 1.4 teleconverter compare to, maybe the sigma sports 150-600 or another zoom as such at their longest distance? Would this prime with a teleconverter still be sharper?
That's a great question. I will use it with an extender occasionally but in my opinion it's not very good. Might be similar to the sigma or probably a bit worse.. but I'm guessing.
Everyone knows a zoom lens will never be as sharp as a prime lens. So yes by all means get the 400mm prime lens. If you want a FANTASTIC zoom for wildlife, or sports get the Canon 100-400mm mii version it's tack sharp and pair it with the newest Canon 1.4 tele evtender miii this lens and tele extender combo can't be beat. Plus with four stops of image stabilization you'll get the shot handheld. The lens is a little heavy but not near as the larger primes.
No, it's not sharp post zooming into birds. If you're shooting people or Mammals from a dist then yes. Use your brain instead of youtube comments
Is it a good combination with my 80D??
I have an 80D with this lens and it is great. I tried the Tamron 100-400 but not as good. I enjoy using it and is does all Pauls says here.
Hi there. I can't comment personally with an 80D, but no reason it should not operate well at all. Andrew is clearly happy with it!
Hi I have the 500 f4 and the 400 f5.6 but struggle to hold the 500 f4 which is a shame as it's sharper?Do you use your 500 for birds in flight or the 400 f5.6?
It's difficult to hand-hold the 500mm Adrian. It will be faster and sharper for flight shots though. I do use it for flight photography but usually have it rested somewhere then just pick it up when I need to. I can only hand-hold for brief periods.
Paul Miguel Photography Thanks for your advice .ps i do love your videos
Cheers. Appreciate it very much.
Thanks Adrian. The support really helps encourage me to keep going!
Keep going Paul !!!
How close will the EF 400 f5.6L focus with an EF-25 attached?
Hi Timothy. I can't really give you an answer for this as I've never measured anything. It makes a reasonable enough difference for me when photographing anything blue tit sized or smaller, in that it fills the frame better.
Does it still AF with the extension tube?
I have all L lenses (not the $10-20K variety) and this lens is absolutely the fastest focusing lens. (I just wish it wasn't white).
It's pretty good. Maybe depends on the camera a little. I find it struggles in low light.
Can this lens be used with an EOS 600d?
Yes it can Andrew. Thanks for watching.
I own a 70-200 2,8 L is II (use it on a 7D MK1) and looking for more focal length. 400f/5,6 (like this one) I could achieve (relatively cheap, but a few more lenses equals decreased contrast) with a 2x Teleconverter on the 70-200 2,8 objective - but I guess I want more f - and I like Zooms - so I'm thinking about buying a 150-600 Tamron (G2) or Sigma "Sport".
Or choose this one lens?
Hmm... What would You prefer in my situation?
Hi. It's a difficult question. I would avoid teleconverters on zooms generally speaking. Many like the 150-600 Tamron and Sigma but I have never tried them myself.
Sir is this product suitable for canon 80d????
Yes it is compatible. I haven't used it on the 80D myself but it should work pretty well. You'll also get cropping factor to give the effect of magnifying the image too.
Hi I use it with an 80D and they are a perfect combination - really superb.
why do you call him sir?
It is still an excellent lens for birds in flight and light enough to carry around all day hand held
I agree.
Anyone used it with the new R7? Keen to hear if still sharp on the high density sensor?
Great question. I would love to know this too.
Miguel- it doesn’t have image stabilization how do u reduce camera shake using hand held?
Adventurous Eater hi there. I don't worry too much about IS. most of the time if hand held, my shutter speeds are around 1000th a second, ad IS doesn't make a difference then really
So far I’m loving my 400mm cheers for the videos need to get a 1.4 x I’m also interested to see how it works with the 2x on the R6 as that allows the af to focus at darker aperture’s so be good to try that out 👍👍
Great. That would be really interesting to know. I think that lens will be even better on the R6! Duade Paton did this test and he was impressed.
@@PaulMiguelPhotography yeah I tried the 2x the sf works great with eye tracking even down to f36 lol not a problem at all with the R6 and took some pics today of a lil dunock snd it’s feathers are really spot on sharpness well impressed with it
@@tintin69rrdoes the inbody stabilizer make it ok for handholding or is it not as big as when a lens has it?
@@EastCoastDigs the 400 isn’t a big lens spec when compared to lugging a 500mm f4 around the lack of is on the lens let’s the lens down the ibis on rf bodies helps a touch although I’m waiting on comparisons between the rf 100-400 and the 400L on mirrorless bodies before I think about swapping it to a rf lens as I do like the brighter lenses and like I say the sharpness of the 400 5.6 is spot on I need to have a good session with it now mounted onto a R7 and try that with the 1.4 iii or 2xiii teleconverters with the 1.6 crop of the apsc sensor and see how that holds things together
@@tintin69rr I just got the 400 4.6 just as a mess around lens. I figure by basic rules 1/500 is about as low as I can shoot this lens curious if you could get it much lower with r6, I’m a little shaky but I suppose most people are at 400mm
If you were to chose between this lens or the Canon 100-400mm IS Mark ii lens which would you Chose?!
Hi Javier. That's a really good question. First to say: I also have a 500mm f4 which is superior to both lenses. I tried the 100-400mm mark ii out for the day and it's an excellent lens and I'm sure it's considerably better than the mark i version. It's difficult to describe the difference in quality - I would say it's probably a little sharper, and a little faster. Personally I just don't seem to like zooms - there's more to think about and the weight isn't distributed as nicely. For most people I think the 100-400mm is an ideal lens and great quality. For me - I'm pretty happy with the fixed 400mm.. but I'm probably in a huge minority! If Canon updated the fixed 400mm that would be my choice!
The 100-400 absolutely kills this lense. Its sharper, has image stabilization and focuses much closer. No contest. My mate who owns the 400 5.6 is currently saving to buy the 100-400 because he cant get the types of shots I can. It really is night and day the difference.
@@markrigg6623 Wait... The 100-400 II doesn't kill that lens. Look first the side by side comparison from RC Scott Photography with 20 blind pictures. I would say pictures are between 90 to 100% as goodon the zoom than the prime, but looking at the samples from the vid, one can still see a better color gradation, nicer bokeh (not the blur, but the rendering) and a slightly better 3D/separation feel with the prime.
Not much, but I would say that as much as the 100-400 II impresses, especially VS the first generation, if it wasn't for the fantastic assets the zoom range and stabilization the 100-400 has, in perfect condition on a tripod, I might still go with the 30 years old prime. But don't take my word for granted, just finely look at the pictures from RC Scott and you'll see, very very close, but there is still that feel on some pics that the overall rendering can be slightly (very slightly) more muddy with backgrounds. But we're splitting hair here, and it's true that the 100-400 is an exceptional lens about equaling the old prime with more flxibility, MFD and good IS...
@@alanalain4884 Yeah I realise the 400 5.6 has intrinsically good optics and when it's in the right conditions it will yield nice sharp images. But there's more to it than that. When used in a variety of conditions side by side the 100-400 it just doesn't yield anywhere near the consistent results I get with the zoom. But yes I know it's a sharp lens. My 100 - 400 is just perceptably sharper but is much more versatile and capable overall. My mate whom I used to shoot with upgraded when he experienced the difference. Thanks for the comment
i have just purchased this lens ( again ) tried the 100-400 mk1 but not happy with that at all.
Never used the 100-400 mark i myself but I've worked with many people who have and found it too soft. I would happily buy the mark 2 version.
UPDATE....sent the 100-400 back as it has a lens alignment problem but very happy with the 400 5.6
Philip Watson glad to hear that, I still think the 400mm f5.6 is a good buy.
Thanks!
Those Gimbal heads look great but I just checked out the price of them, $700 AUD is rather a lot :S
The better ones are a lot of money. The one I used is a Movo and much, much cheaper.
Don't get the cheaper Neewar type heads - they are awful so don't help. I find for this though an excellent head is the koolehaoda E3 mini Tripod Head Ballhead Ø44mm ball and superb, really great friction control so does it all. I have an E2 on a monopod and was so impressed I bought an E3 for my tripod to replace the original Benro. The prinsipal is the same as Acrotech which are incredibly expensive.
Hello all, I am a wildlife photographer and mg best photos are in Macro photography! I am wanting to start getting in touch with magazine's etc. As being a photographer is my dream job. I am wondering how to get in touch with magazine's to see if they're interested in collaborating and if anybody knows any decent wildlife magazines!? Thanks so much for you time.
There are many magazines. Photography, local life, nature. Think outside the box too - even gardening magazines might be interested.. or walking titles for example. Good luck!
Ok if you use a canon
has Nikon done a simular lens ?
Hi there. I don't know to be honest. But Nikon do a 200-500mm in a reasonable price range and this lens has some good reviews.
Don't get the point of a fixed 400mm lens.....crop city I guess ?.....can't shoot close.....can't reach far enough.....don't get it.....beautiful pics of little things ! A luxury lens in a way....specific.....would I like one.....sure !
Big mistake not to talk about lack of image stabilization. Really handicaps the lens.
Yes, absolutely true. I was so annoyed when I realised I'd missed it out. I put in the description later on. I love this lens.. but yes it has no image stabilization.
@@PaulMiguelPhotography Fair enough. Good tripod lens. Never used it but by all accounts its sharp.
А где можно взять недорого?
We can buy in ebay in the UK. And possibly Amazon.
Спасибо ,кто откликнулся.
I own canon 80d+tamron 150-600mm g2 for bird photography. I can only afford one canon 500mm f4 (used) or 1dx?
Which one you think?
80d+canon 500mm f4 or
Canon 1dx+tamron 150-600 g2?
instagram @lokgurung
Thanks
Hi Lok. That's a very difficult question you've asked me! I can't give you a definite answer. I think you'll get pretty good results from both options. In the past, I have had to make the same decision - and usually opted for the better lens rather than the body. That said, I would consider how you will be using the lens (i.e. weight) and how important speed of focusing is. Those are two big factors. Good luck!
Lok Gurung dude Definitely the canon 500 mm you’ll thank me! Lens first then camera body
Maher Ibrahim well, as a bird lover photographer, you need to have better camera which has better iso, dynamic range and better shutter speed. Most of the time I need to shot above 1600+ iso,
Anyway thanks you 👍
Lok Gurung I can tell you from my experience. I have the Canon 80D and the Canon 5mark 2 and the new one Canon 5D mark 4 yes the 5D4 is rendering beautiful pictures but I still can get the same picture on the 5D 2 under the right exposure, but the 80D crop factor is also important sometimes as it’s makes it easier to reach. But I would be happy with a 500mm and an 80D.
Lok Gurung how do you like the Tamron? I bought it and send it back because it was not sharp? The pictures I got were like a snapshot not an artful pictures I get from the Canon 400mm.
$900 used.
£500 in 2018 but over £1000 in 2020??
Really? That's crazy.
Well... The lens has been more and emphasized by many reviewers, so more demand, prices up... Just got mine for nine hundred something.
Pretty far off on this lens you are