@22:06 Very very important point. It is important to be provide the complete picture. Anand, I love you, man. Thank you for coming onto the podcast and talking about this.
@12:33 I am really glad Anand did not hedge his bets. Anand is as Hindu as you get, and as atheist as you get. And those are not at all contradictory. I am a proud member of that tribe.
That is a nice trick played by Hindus. Well done. LOL. I am from Hindu culture but don't believe in Hindu gods. Hindu basically means 'Those who stayed around Sindhu river' so technically, Pakistanis are also Hindus. There you go. Clever trick, isn't it ?
@@rahulsmishra So we're going to let the Greeks define what being a Hindu means. Words have meanings yes, but they also change and shift overtime. Your willingness to let go of that agency to take charge of a word that signifies yourself is the proof of your colonized mindset.
@@Saturnius Educate me then. What is a Hindu then? I have been Hindu for just about 45 years before becoming rational but I am sure I have lot to learn. Please be specific instead of resorting to Christian tactics like 'You are a Christian if you are kind like Jesus' Thanks.
Thank you very much for taking up this topic of "Rationalizing of theory of Evolution" by NCERT. And must say, there couldn't have been an authority other than Dr. Ranganathan to talk about it. This podcast is absolutely Masterclass. THANK YOU🙏
46'-47' election result-- mmosslim constituency ( Bombay Province 100% seat goes to M. League, Madras Province 100% seat goes to M. League, Bengal 95%, Assam 91%, Orissa 100%, Central Province 93% so on so on.......) still congress did not do popul. xchange
Evolution is taught around 9th grade (14 years old) in USA. Still many people believe in creationism, Adam and Eve story, and that the world is 6000 years old. The reason is that people are brainwashed by Christianity at a very young age. Science needs to be taught as soon as kids enter the school system (around age 5).
People stop fearing God, start committing horrible sins, stop fearing about Hell, destroy a country all in the name of science. Moreover America always promotes Innovation, but these type of radical ideas will only destroy society.
Anand sir is always fun to watch and listen to him, he always brings humor to even a serious discussion which make the discussion more engaging and understandable. And appreicalatino for Kushal Bhai engaging with various types of topics which needs discussion. Kushal bhai you become more cool on the Sham Sharma live.
When I was a child, my uncle used to play a funny Odia song by Akshay Mohanty. The title was Mankada. I guess, that was his take on Evolution. And thats very close to what Ranga was talking about "coming up with nursery rhymes for kids".
Good topic. I believe evolution should be taught as Anand sir says. Me as a devout Hindu and a someone with knowledge of theory of evolution, never let the books blind my scientific temper.
Being a devout Hindu, like Ranganathan, you are totally unaware that Hinduism is totally consistent with science. And is more intelligent than science. The stupidity of current era of discussions informed by the ignorance of Abrahamics and reactions to it do not understand the deep logic and understanding of the Sanatana logic system.
Since the topic of " NETI NETI" was brought up by Kushal and " BIG BANG " by Dr. Ranganathan. i feel Big bang can never be proven. Its impossible . If we say God exists here and does not exist at any other point then it means God has a form. Anything that has form can be divided. Anything that can be dibided is not real. Because what is one form today might be divided tomorrow. If it is divided it means what it was yesterday is not real. Reality is something which existed before, still exists and will exist in future. Matter can neither be created nor destroyed as per science. Then from where did matter come. .who created atoms. There is no proof for Big bang so how can we believe it. Science demands proof for everything then without proof how is science claiming Big Bang as basis of origin of universe. Only existence exists and nothing can exist without existence. Something which can be broken can also be destroyed. But Brahman cannot be cut. So brahman “is akhand”, cannot be broken. Just like in a circle you cannot say what is starting point or ending point brahman has got no starting and ending point. No concept of space and time exist for Brahman. Perhaps Sanatan or more precisely "ADVAITA" offers an interesting perspective. 1. BRAHMA SATYAM BRAHMAN alone is Satyam - Real: 2. 2. JAGAT MITHYAM: Doctrine of jagat being mithyä. “sadasad vilàkshana” As per vedas Brahman is the only reality. What is the Meaning of BRAHMAN. The word Brahman is derived from the Sanskrit root √brhi, meaning - vrddhau, - meaning growing, and the suffix man, added to it, signifies an absence of limitation (in expanse). No beginning or end ( anant). Because it has no beginning, and is still growing it cannot have a fixed form. It has no beginning or end. So Brahma is “ niraakaar”. Brahma is “infinite”. But is it possible for two infinites to exist? It’s not possible. Because when there are two infinites , then you have to give starting and end points to one infinity so that the end point for one infinity becomes stating point for another. But if we give starting and end points then it cannot be infinity. So since there can ve only one infinity and God is infinite there is only one infinite God. Cosmic existence is nirakaar. SO BRAHMA PREVADES EVERYEHERE. BECAUSE IF SOMETHING DOESNT exist how can it be real. We cannot see anything produced from something which has no beginning or birth. Therefore, these two reasons conclude that this universe is not at all produced. Actually there is no existing language that can define God, how big he is or what form he is. In fact vedas give a negative definition of Brahman. “ NETI NETI” THIS IS NOT BRAHMAN THAT IS NOT BRAHMAN”Because what we see is limited. What exists beyond what we see how can we describe it., hence “ neti neti”. Fir example we know what yellow colour may look like. Can we explain this to a blind person what is yellow. We can experience Brahman but we cannot describe him. If there is concept of creator in abrahamic religions then it means god must have some form. If god has form then how does god look like. But nobody has seen God. So how can they describe him. But in hinduism God is formless The universe was not created in time and finished, it is created each moment; it is being created each moment because it is God’s own being. Just as you move, you sing, you love, so God creates - every moment he is creating. And the creation is never separate, it is his movement, his dance.” This is what famous Nataraja statue depicts. The cosmic dance. Hence it is placed in Because It is nitya-suddha-buddha-mukta-saty- a-svabhäva and its sarvajnatvam and sarva-saktimatvam. If we contemplate above questions, then the answer can be found in Advaita.. SO DR. RANGANATHAN is right when he says god does not exist, if he means that god foes not exist as a physical entity. Because even Advaita says god does not have physical form. ADVAITA means not two. " NOT TWO " has a profound meaning. If you think what is the meaning of not two then mind will go crazy. Why did they say not two. Why did they not say its one or two or three or four. What is meaning of not two
Indian thought is that consciousness is all pervading. It manifests in organisms as 'life' Many neuro / brain scientists are open to this idea of treating pure consciousness as a field like space, time, electromagnetic fields
Are humans even evolving to be taught such things? Human population is increasing while dependency on material things is exponentially increasing. This means humans are actually devolving and not evolving.
We Hindus or any other Dharmics never had any problem with evolution. Its monotheists who always had a problem with it. Now because of some id!otic decisions from government, people like dwakins was given a chance to equate Hinduism with Islam and Christianity. Also I wonder if gov removed it cause of pressure from church. this happened right after Modi going to church and some alliance was made with Kerala Christians.
Bjp is trying to gather Abrahamic fundamentalist votes. We need secular abrahamic voted, but bjp is taking a step further by appeasing fundamentalists.
@@ishankanwar8411 dasavatar's first 4 avatars are literally evolution. Fish - water creature Tortoise - water and land creature Boar - land creature Man And don't act like Hindus are going and protesting and peddling that evolution is a lie. I live in the US and there are people who openly say evolution is fake
*From the First Day of the School, Evolution and its True meaning, that is "The Blind Watch Maker" should be taught.* *I have no sympathy with any Fundamentalist groups. And anyone who stands against right to Blasphemy, whether it's Muslim or Sikh or extremist Hindu or lunatic Catholic, I stand against them. And Hindus too have the right to be preserved. If Hindu philosophy goes away then this country will no longer remain Secular either way, and this country will lose it's character. Even as Atheist, I want the Hindu festivals and Secular traditions to be continued. And as an Atheist, I don't think one should've much quarrel with the Hindu left who do not believe in "Scriptural Infallibility" and "Casteism" and damn Apa-Shastra Manu-Sanhita. But the problem is that these people give space to the Hindu Right as well who are castist, fanatic, and Scripture Bound Supremacists, who cannot tolerate the fact of many things in their Scripture being wrong as well, just like cursed Quran or stupid Bible, or even GuruGranth as well. Those who cannot place Science before every Faith, must not be trusted, that's what Bibekananda said firmly. And Bibekananda said "Children should have wholistic regular scientific education first, and play football and understand the world first, and then and then only after all that one should learn the Scriptures to evaluate them properly." One must not teach religion to the kids before them reaching the "age of reason" and Evolution should be taught from the absolute beginning of the school.* *The fanatic "Hindu-Right" do not understand that. Neither do they follow Bibekananda. And there cannot be any compromisation with the Scriptic Fanatics. Dharma is not bound by Scriptures. Just listen to SaadGuru, he'll say the same thing. Rabindranath Thakur (Tagore) said that till his last day.* *Even if you want Hinduism to be saved (I as an Atheist Anti-Theist would always want to destroy all faiths and embrace whatever remains left of it. That's the true Spirit. Faith is not Knowledge.) you can indeed speak about that cause. But you simply cannot compromise with the fanatic Hindus for your own sake, even for the sake of Hindus themselves you must not compromise with the Scriptic Hindu fanatics. Even if you as a Hindu (I'm not associated with any religion in any way) want to save Hinduism, you have to stay away from that bunch of fanatics. And the only reason I'm against these "Hindutva" is because they prove themselves to be against Science, and they're violent, they are inhuman towards Muslims, and they do not follow the path of honesty and Scientific Truth and Humanity.* *I would've no problem with the educated Hindu left, but even if you're hindu, and if you compromise with the Hindu Right, you'd doom yourself only. The spirit of real Hinduism lies in Secularism. And Secularism cannot be a shield for second majority fundamentalism, or even khalistani fundamentalism, nor Manu-Sanhita of course. But those who openly stand against Secularism as a whole, neither understand Secularism nor understand Dharma, nor embrace Science and Humanity. You're going against Bibekananda, you're absolutely going against Rabindranath.* *Any move that even remotely perturbs Science Education, that's scary. We were in doom for thousand of years, not only because foreigners were oppressing us (which is true by the way) but because we were fanatic. We were screwd by our own Faith. You're an idiot to not making kids study Evolution from Class One, day one. I cannot trust you, because I care about hindus as well, and for the sake of hindus, I mustn't trust them who give any space to the fanaticism, superstitions, and religious extremism and violence. You're dangerous for Hindus themselves, trust me.* *To save Bharat and its people and its Culture, we need **#CharvakRashtra**.*
@kushalbhai i am ur subacriber and member because you call such intellect and talk in rational historic and contemporary issues. Same as your AIM podcast that 'Horses- Cavalry-India wala! Pleasr increase these kind of discussions.. ❤
Anand Ranganathan: Please read the book " The Living Cell" by Dr. Harold Hillman from the University of Surrey where he describes in detail what the cell contains and what it does NOT contain. According to Hillman, live tissue microscopy is the only way to look at living tissue and as such, once you examine living tissue under a simple light or compound microscope, organelles like ribosomes, golgi apparatus, rough and smooth endoplasmic reticulum and countless others described in textbooks have never existed in reality. Meaning that all the cell organelles described in standard textbooks were looked at under scanning electron microscopes where the tissue was dead, stained, dehydrated then later re-hydrated and as such "artifacts" were seen under the microscope, not actual organelles of LIVING cell cultures. Hillman describes ribosomes as artifacts (so does not exist in the cell) created as gas bubbles due to the manipulation of the tissue with unscientific techniques such as dehydration, freezing, staining etc which completely destroy the original tissue integrity and what is examined is just an artifact.
कुशल जी नमस्कार ! आपको पहिली बार देख-सुन रहाँ हूँ । वैसे तो history के लिये आपने शिवाजी महाराज का चित्र चुना ये ही चॅनेल subscribe करने के लिये काफी था। उपर से आप की और आनंद जी की (प्यारी प्यारी !) चर्चा ।२/३ मुद्दे रखना चाहता हूँ …. १)गालिब का शेर आपने सुनाया, उस बात पर हमारे यहाँ बहूत कुछ पहिले से सोचा गया है।इसे एक भ्रम के तोर पर देखा गया है जीसे *त्रिपूटी* कहते है ।कर्ता~कर्म~कृती, ज्ञाता~ ज्ञान~ ज्ञेय ऐसी बहूत सारी त्रिपुटीयाँ है।संपुर्ण ज्ञान से ये मिट जाती है या vice Versa. विज्ञान पुर्णज्ञान के तरफ जाने की एक (one of the) विधी है, पुर्णज्ञान नही,ये मान्यता है। २)survival of the fittest में competition का भाव है, coexistence का नहीं ; जो *जीवो जीवस्य जीवनम्* में दिखाई पडता है। ३)spirituality (आध्यात्मिकता) किसी मार्ग पर नहीं intent पर depend करती है। आनंद जी ज्ञानमार्गी है, शंका (doubting) इस मार्ग का मानो जैसे हतियार है। श्रद्धा तुट सकती है पर शंका नहीं, उसका निरसन ही होना पडता है। इसी कारण हिंदूओ ने अंतीम सत्य के तरफ जाने वाले किसी भी मार्ग को नाकारा नहीं, उसी समय सत्य का कोई अंतिम रुप भी रेखांकित करने की चेष्टा नहीं की - न इती, न इती। आपका संवाद देखने में बहूत मजा आया। आपको और आनंद जी को बहूत सारी शुभकामनाएँ !!!
Fun Fact-: When Charles Darwin visited Galpagos Island, he took a tortoise with him for study during his round the earth visit. He Was brought to England for study. That tortoise is still alive in Australian national park. Edit-: sorry to say but actually he died in 2006😭😭😭
This discussion is in support of the teaching of evolution. That is a no-brainer. Why has the subject been removed or shifted as he euphemistically says and do we get an answer or not is the burning question.
‘In theory, we can keep going backwards like this until we come to the notion of a single species at the very beginning of evolutionary time. If that is the case, then at some point in the history of the earth, non-living material must have given rise to life. There are many theories about how this might have happened. It would be interesting to come up with theories of our own!’ This is from old ncert. So it did a preety good job.
I don't have the time rn to watch this whole discussion, but please can someone give me a brief overview of what Anand argued and especially what he said about professor Richard Dawkins?
Indian civilisational thought does not empahasise on creation at a point of time. Its cyclic for us its more of a manifestation and resolution. Also the dasavathara follow the evolutionary sequence exactly like Matsya (fish), Kurma (tortoise), Varaha (wild boar) etc
I used to admire Prof Dawkins Pity Evolution is a fact The theory of Evolution tries to explains this fact ( successfully) It is a scientific theory which means it has the highest level of credibility
I remember college main bhi evolution tha toh humare teacher ne pdhya my muslims frnds class ke baad discuss kr rahe the ki asa thodi na hai yeh sab galat pdhate h etc etc at that time i didn’t understand ki problem kya hai but now i know…
Stanley Miller's experiement is about transformation of inorganic into organic compounds (amino acids) which are the building blocks of life. However, the agglomeration of the building blocks thru protocells (Jack Szotak's experiement) and fast mutation INTO organisms (with consciousness) remains #unknown. Therefore, for Anand to say that to say that evolution is an axiom is #incorrect.
Let's have discussion on religious aspect of Hinduism. I would like to know your views on some specific theme and would like to share traditional views. Looking forward in hope of discussion. Thanks!
the recurring problem of science throughout the ages has always been this mindset "even though i have very limited evidence compare to the vastness of the problem i am trying to solve, but since i have found some evidence, may be it is only 5%, but i will try to explain the whole problem with this 5% since what i see is the complete truth and i will simply ignore the other possibilities and i will not even try to evaluate other possibilities" This is what is western scientific mindset from the last 500 years on a high level.
Lmao. Shows your lack of understanding of science. "even though i have very limited evidence compare to the vastness of the problem" Evidence has nothing to do with 'vastness of a problem'. I do not know what you mean here. Try to articulate your statements more rigorously. "i have found some evidence, may be it is only 5%" You either have evidence for something or you do not. You can't represent it as a percentage. "i will try to explain the whole problem with this 5% since what i see is the complete truth" Our observations are considered facts. Hence they are complete truths. "i will simply ignore the other possibilities and i will not even try to evaluate other possibilities" The single most incorrect statement so far. How do you think atomic models replaced former ones? "This is what is western scientific mindset from the last 500 years" There's no western science. Science is science regardless of geography and history.
So anand ranganathan knows the question posed by Eugene wigner the unreasonable effect of mathematics in physical science .physicst should contact mr ranganathan .there are many more questions need to be answered and the questions are getting more deeper than ever before
ChatGPT wrote this: In the land of creatures, big and small, A story unfolds, captivating all. Listen closely, dear nursery friends, As I take you on a journey that never ends. Once upon a time, in a world so vast, Life began with a single blast. Long ago, in ancient seas, Tiny organisms started this grandest of tales. From single-celled wonders, they did grow, Adapting and changing, as eons did flow. Through countless years, life did evolve, A marvelous dance, problems to solve. Oh, how species flourished and transformed, In their struggle to survive, they performed. The brave and strong, they were set free, Through the magical process called diversity. From fish to frogs, and birds in the sky, Creatures took flight, up so high. With feathers, scales, and fur so warm, They adapted to their ever-changing norm. Giraffes with necks so long, reaching high, To taste the leaves against the blue sky. Elephants with trunks, strong and grand, Evolution's touch shaped them by its hand. Beneath the ocean waves, so deep, Whales evolved, giants that gracefully leap. From land to sea, and sea to land, Life followed a path so wonderfully planned. Humans, dear children, we are a part, Of this tale, so dear to our heart. With minds so bright and hearts so pure, We strive to understand this world for sure. The journey of evolution, a remarkable quest, Filled with wonders, both east and west. Nature's harmony, its balance and grace, Teach us to cherish every unique face. So, little ones, as you play and grow, Remember this story, let its wisdom flow. We are connected, all creatures alike, In this web of life, let kindness strike. For evolution teaches us, beyond the rest, That love and compassion are truly the best. Let's nurture our planet, protect and defend, For a future where all life can transcend. In this grand nursery of life, my dears, Embrace diversity, banish all fears. For in understanding, we shall thrive, And keep the flame of evolution alive.
Yes I agree with Anand sir. Even if he is your friend it doesn’t matter, he deserves a better introduction at least for the sake of new viewers. Unfortunately even after repeated attempts by Mr. Anand the host do not get it. 8:24
lingayat holy texts repeats most of things from upanishads, patanjali yoga sutra and some of saankya. lingayat founder basaveshwara or basavanna was against sanatana dharma because of untouchability and other superstitions which were very prevalent in sanatana dharma. he tried very hard to convince people of sanatanis to accept shudras as same and give them entry to the temples but they didnt accept his arguments so he only came out of sanatan dharma and created new system to attain enlightenment. even though he started new system of worship, it is largely inspired by combination of both bhakti and tantra of hinduism. he did this to give everyone their deserved rights for religiosity. he didnt called out anywhere it as separate religion in texts but he definitely criticized deity worship. according to him, shiva is nirguna form, that is para shiva. but nowadays lingayat gurus dont understand why he digressed from hinduism and maintaining similar stand of him against sanatana dharma even though hinduism gone through lots of reformation. i came to this observation because there are some instances in his life where he gave respect to enlightened people who got enlightened through hinduism.
If one gets the chance to give information to increase the understanding, they should give it. Let kar to sun hi lete hai aur kuchh Sikh bhi jayenge...Varna contemporary issue par to ek page is editorial hi enough hogi. He should have discussed Darwin's understanding of evolution and major development (glad that he did talked about Stanley miller experiment) that increased the understanding.
Hamare yahan Log "Truth" ya "Brahm" ko khoj rahe the To isqe liye alag alag Guruon or unki Guru Paramparaon ne Alag alag tariqe se Khoj ki, Unka Udeshya Meterial Sukh ko prapt karna na hokar "Brahm" ko khojna tha, Ishliye jinn Guruon ne भौतिक चीजों के जरिए खोजने का Prayas kiya, Unhone Aaj ki Science Se Similar Bahoot si Khoj ki Jo Aaj ke Scientist ke kaam bhi aa rahi hai ya unki khoj se similar nikal Rahi hai, Lekin Kuchh Khoj jese ki evolution Parr Guruon ki Theory Aaj Ki evolution Ki theory Se Thoda Doose karm me hai to ab Hamm सनातनियो ka Farz Banta hai ki Unn Guruon ka kahna Mante hue aaj ki jyada sahi or संतुलित evolution ki theory ko manna chahiye Or Anay Hinduon ko batana chahiye ki vo बजाय इसके कि आधुनिक Evolution Ka विरोध करने के इसे मानना चाहिए, और Hamare guruon ne यहां तक खोजा है आगे का हमे inn आधुनिक साइंटिस्ट के साथ मिलकर खोजना है क्योंकि यही हमारे गुरुओं का मानना था ना की गुरुओं का उद्देश्य यह था कि Hamm ek baat ko pakad karr bethe rahe kyonki agar essa nahi hota to Hamre yahan "Sastrarthh" ka system nhi hota vo Ishliye hi tha ki Jo kamm sahi ya kamm Tarkik hai ko rukna chahiye or jo jyada sahi hai ko Aage badhna chahiye 🙏🙏🙏 #KushalMehra
Key point we need to be humble about our understanding of nature because our discovery of universe compared to ocean will be a glass of water. For instance as per our understanding till yesterday was that it took at least 1 billion years for the first galaxy to form but James Webb found otherwise. Also, I agree with Anand we shall be clearly stating that the current evidence of evolution negates the current idea of god that has been propagated to us.
It's going to be taught but who? class 11th and mainly who chooses biology and is in science what about different fields and streams they will never learn inside of school/colleges.it's like it's remove
The simple fact that Darwinian evolution can be proved, by the four experiments that Anand Sir mentioned - makes it a theorem, not an axiom any more. I checked the definition of Theory and Axiom. Am I missing something here?
You are correct. A theorem is a mathematical statement whose truth has been logically established and has been proved and an axiom is a mathematical statement which is assumed to be true even without proof.
@22:06 Very very important point. It is important to be provide the complete picture. Anand, I love you, man. Thank you for coming onto the podcast and talking about this.
Simply love the man....Anand sir...Gem of a man ..funny and humorous ..Wide range of knowledge ..
I have been wanting to start something of that sort on TH-cam for so long. Just tired of the rat race.
This topic is his job. rest is wide this is his core.
Dr Anand ranganathan should be a regular here.... Gem of a podcast
@12:33 I am really glad Anand did not hedge his bets. Anand is as Hindu as you get, and as atheist as you get. And those are not at all contradictory. I am a proud member of that tribe.
That is a nice trick played by Hindus. Well done. LOL. I am from Hindu culture but don't believe in Hindu gods. Hindu basically means 'Those who stayed around Sindhu river' so technically, Pakistanis are also Hindus.
There you go. Clever trick, isn't it ?
@@rahulsmishra So we're going to let the Greeks define what being a Hindu means. Words have meanings yes, but they also change and shift overtime. Your willingness to let go of that agency to take charge of a word that signifies yourself is the proof of your colonized mindset.
@@Saturnius Educate me then. What is a Hindu then? I have been Hindu for just about 45 years before becoming rational but I am sure I have lot to learn.
Please be specific instead of resorting to Christian tactics like 'You are a Christian if you are kind like Jesus'
Thanks.
Can't get enough of Ranga Sir. Always a pleasure to listen.
Thank you very much for taking up this topic of "Rationalizing of theory of Evolution" by NCERT.
And must say, there couldn't have been an authority other than Dr. Ranganathan to talk about it.
This podcast is absolutely Masterclass. THANK YOU🙏
"Evolution through natural selection" just blew my mind when I came across it in class 8th. That made me fan of Science for life.
He is so funny ..brilliant podcast..anand ranganathan is right that we need to study importance of evolution..
46'-47' election result-- mmosslim constituency ( Bombay Province 100% seat goes to M. League, Madras Province 100% seat goes to M. League, Bengal 95%, Assam 91%, Orissa 100%, Central Province 93% so on so on.......) still congress did not do popul. xchange
One of your best conversations!
Gandu Shikari Vs Ranga. This is a last minute arrangement we need on a regular basis 😂
So true...😂
TRUE, Kala Kushal 👤
ড়গগট।
@@razibahmed3695 yes allah is
Who goes by the name Gandu among these too ?
Evolution is taught around 9th grade (14 years old) in USA. Still many people believe in creationism, Adam and Eve story, and that the world is 6000 years old. The reason is that people are brainwashed by Christianity at a very young age. Science needs to be taught as soon as kids enter the school system (around age 5).
He is saying exactly the same thing if you are teaching evolution, go the extra mile and tell students that evolution negates the existence of God
People stop fearing God, start committing horrible sins, stop fearing about Hell, destroy a country all in the name of science.
Moreover America always promotes Innovation, but these type of radical ideas will only destroy society.
That wouldn't work.
That wouldn't work.
That should be left to the student.@@abhilashgupta5451
Anand sir is always fun to watch and listen to him, he always brings humor to even a serious discussion which make the discussion more engaging and understandable. And appreicalatino for Kushal Bhai engaging with various types of topics which needs discussion. Kushal bhai you become more cool on the Sham Sharma live.
Brillian podcast and birlliant discussion. First 30 minutes of Anand Sir was fire
Anand ranganathan I am your big fan. You are full of humour,sarcasm,knowledge.
You are best love you sir..
Masterpiece....By far I haven't seen Such knowledgeable rational personality dr.Ranganathan sir......grt podcast
Rangaji has offered us a masterclass on critical thinking. Brilliant as usual. Jai Ho! 🙏🕉
Prof. Anand you are really great 👍
When I was a child, my uncle used to play a funny Odia song by Akshay Mohanty. The title was Mankada. I guess, that was his take on Evolution. And thats very close to what Ranga was talking about "coming up with nursery rhymes for kids".
Hn aangya mu bi bahut sunichi
Good topic. I believe evolution should be taught as Anand sir says. Me as a devout Hindu and a someone with knowledge of theory of evolution, never let the books blind my scientific temper.
Being a devout Hindu, like Ranganathan, you are totally unaware that Hinduism is totally consistent with science. And is more intelligent than science.
The stupidity of current era of discussions informed by the ignorance of Abrahamics and reactions to it do not understand the deep logic and understanding of the Sanatana logic system.
@@shailjasgh "Intelligent than science" is a stretch.
Since the topic of " NETI NETI" was brought up by Kushal and " BIG BANG " by Dr. Ranganathan. i feel Big bang can never be proven. Its impossible .
If we say God exists here and does not exist at any other point then it means God has a form. Anything that has form can be divided. Anything that can be dibided is not real. Because what is one form today might be divided tomorrow. If it is divided it means what it was yesterday is not real.
Reality is something which existed before, still exists and will exist in future.
Matter can neither be created nor destroyed as per science. Then from where did matter come. .who created atoms.
There is no proof for Big bang so how can we believe it. Science demands proof for everything then without proof how is science claiming Big Bang as basis of origin of universe.
Only existence exists and nothing can exist without existence. Something which can be broken can also be destroyed. But Brahman cannot be cut. So brahman “is akhand”, cannot be broken. Just like in a circle you cannot say what is starting point or ending point brahman has got no starting and ending point. No concept of space and time exist for Brahman.
Perhaps Sanatan or more precisely "ADVAITA" offers an interesting perspective.
1. BRAHMA SATYAM
BRAHMAN alone is Satyam - Real:
2. 2. JAGAT MITHYAM: Doctrine of jagat being mithyä. “sadasad vilàkshana”
As per vedas Brahman is the only reality. What is the Meaning of BRAHMAN.
The word Brahman is derived from the Sanskrit root √brhi, meaning - vrddhau, - meaning growing, and the suffix man, added to it, signifies an absence of limitation (in expanse). No beginning or end ( anant). Because it has no beginning, and is still growing it cannot have a fixed form. It has no beginning or end. So Brahma is “ niraakaar”. Brahma is “infinite”. But is it possible for two infinites to exist? It’s not possible. Because when there are two infinites , then you have to give starting and end points to one infinity so that the end point for one infinity becomes stating point for another.
But if we give starting and end points then it cannot be infinity.
So since there can ve only one infinity and God is infinite there is only one infinite God.
Cosmic existence is nirakaar.
SO BRAHMA PREVADES EVERYEHERE. BECAUSE IF SOMETHING DOESNT exist how can it be real.
We cannot see anything produced from something which has no beginning or birth. Therefore, these two reasons conclude that this universe is not at all produced.
Actually there is no existing language that can define God, how big he is or what form he is. In fact vedas give a negative definition of Brahman. “ NETI NETI” THIS IS NOT BRAHMAN THAT IS NOT BRAHMAN”Because what we see is limited. What exists beyond what we see how can we describe it., hence “ neti neti”.
Fir example we know what yellow colour may look like. Can we explain this to a blind person what is yellow.
We can experience Brahman but we cannot describe him.
If there is concept of creator in abrahamic religions then it means god must have some form. If god has form then how does god look like. But nobody has seen God. So how can they describe him.
But in hinduism God is formless
The universe was not created in time and finished, it is created each moment; it is being created each moment because it is God’s own being. Just as you move, you sing, you love, so God creates - every moment he is creating. And the creation is never separate, it is his movement, his dance.”
This is what famous Nataraja statue depicts. The cosmic dance. Hence it is placed in
Because It is nitya-suddha-buddha-mukta-saty- a-svabhäva and its sarvajnatvam and sarva-saktimatvam.
If we contemplate above questions, then the answer can be found in Advaita..
SO DR. RANGANATHAN is right when he says god does not exist, if he means that god foes not exist as a physical entity.
Because even Advaita says god does not have physical form. ADVAITA means not two. " NOT TWO " has a profound meaning. If you think what is the meaning of not two then mind will go crazy.
Why did they say not two. Why did they not say its one or two or three or four. What is meaning of not two
@@shailjasgh you can't be thats a truth Hinduism may tell us what happened but how it happened no where near that
Excellent discussion & needed to be watched by all...
Indian thought is that consciousness is all pervading. It manifests in organisms as 'life' Many neuro / brain scientists are open to this idea of treating pure consciousness as a field like space, time, electromagnetic fields
Can you mention the name of some "neuro/brain" scientists that treat consciousness as a field?
@@bonchitogovindodas3333 I like your name dude.
Srini ka mummy treat consciousness as a field like his papa treat that hole as a black hole 🕳️
No serious neurologist or scientist ever claimed that other than quacks. Michio Kaku is a quack. Sabine Hossenfelder isn't.
Are humans even evolving to be taught such things? Human population is increasing while dependency on material things is exponentially increasing. This means humans are actually devolving and not evolving.
This one is the one of the best session... enjoyed it fully. Thanks Kushal and Ranga Sir :)
Totally love
Kushal
J Sai Deepak and Anad Ranganathan
Ashish Dhar.
Awesome. Brain smasher. Provokes , instigates & illuminates. Keep going.
10:55 to 30:35
Evolution is no longer a theory it's an axiom
He is the ‘Shree Anand Rangnathan Sir’
Respect him pls
Brilliant Dr. Ranganathan and Kushal you are just doing fine & Brilliantly great Podcast😊👍🏽🇮🇳
Yaar deadly combo , organise these last minute with Ranga Anna
Big fan of Anand sir, it is always a pleasure to listen him.
Respect.
Anand sir ✅
We Hindus or any other Dharmics never had any problem with evolution. Its monotheists who always had a problem with it.
Now because of some id!otic decisions from government, people like dwakins was given a chance to equate Hinduism with Islam and Christianity.
Also I wonder if gov removed it cause of pressure from church. this happened right after Modi going to church and some alliance was made with Kerala Christians.
Bjp is trying to gather Abrahamic fundamentalist votes. We need secular abrahamic voted, but bjp is taking a step further by appeasing fundamentalists.
They have also Manu and dashavtar stories to tell you.
@@ishankanwar8411 The reality of the story of Manu is something else than what is being known as per the popular belief
@@descendantofbharatbharatva7155 What is the story?
@@ishankanwar8411 dasavatar's first 4 avatars are literally evolution.
Fish - water creature
Tortoise - water and land creature
Boar - land creature
Man
And don't act like Hindus are going and protesting and peddling that evolution is a lie. I live in the US and there are people who openly say evolution is fake
Dr Anand is one of the top life scientists. This audience must know.😊
great discussion.. thanks Kushal
Outstanding podcast 🕉️🇮🇳🙏
@@dudeprince6038 Atheistic Hindus ,om is not only the symbol of Hinduism the religion its the symbol of Indian Civilization
Just Brilliant... Love you Anand... My alter ego or rather an extension... ❤
Bring this guy on SSS... We need the whole band together.... If possible JSD too
Without vedanta all religions are superstition.
Swami vivekananda.
With also it is superstition only.
*From the First Day of the School, Evolution and its True meaning, that is "The Blind Watch Maker" should be taught.*
*I have no sympathy with any Fundamentalist groups. And anyone who stands against right to Blasphemy, whether it's Muslim or Sikh or extremist Hindu or lunatic Catholic, I stand against them. And Hindus too have the right to be preserved. If Hindu philosophy goes away then this country will no longer remain Secular either way, and this country will lose it's character. Even as Atheist, I want the Hindu festivals and Secular traditions to be continued. And as an Atheist, I don't think one should've much quarrel with the Hindu left who do not believe in "Scriptural Infallibility" and "Casteism" and damn Apa-Shastra Manu-Sanhita. But the problem is that these people give space to the Hindu Right as well who are castist, fanatic, and Scripture Bound Supremacists, who cannot tolerate the fact of many things in their Scripture being wrong as well, just like cursed Quran or stupid Bible, or even GuruGranth as well. Those who cannot place Science before every Faith, must not be trusted, that's what Bibekananda said firmly. And Bibekananda said "Children should have wholistic regular scientific education first, and play football and understand the world first, and then and then only after all that one should learn the Scriptures to evaluate them properly." One must not teach religion to the kids before them reaching the "age of reason" and Evolution should be taught from the absolute beginning of the school.*
*The fanatic "Hindu-Right" do not understand that. Neither do they follow Bibekananda. And there cannot be any compromisation with the Scriptic Fanatics. Dharma is not bound by Scriptures. Just listen to SaadGuru, he'll say the same thing. Rabindranath Thakur (Tagore) said that till his last day.*
*Even if you want Hinduism to be saved (I as an Atheist Anti-Theist would always want to destroy all faiths and embrace whatever remains left of it. That's the true Spirit. Faith is not Knowledge.) you can indeed speak about that cause. But you simply cannot compromise with the fanatic Hindus for your own sake, even for the sake of Hindus themselves you must not compromise with the Scriptic Hindu fanatics. Even if you as a Hindu (I'm not associated with any religion in any way) want to save Hinduism, you have to stay away from that bunch of fanatics. And the only reason I'm against these "Hindutva" is because they prove themselves to be against Science, and they're violent, they are inhuman towards Muslims, and they do not follow the path of honesty and Scientific Truth and Humanity.*
*I would've no problem with the educated Hindu left, but even if you're hindu, and if you compromise with the Hindu Right, you'd doom yourself only. The spirit of real Hinduism lies in Secularism. And Secularism cannot be a shield for second majority fundamentalism, or even khalistani fundamentalism, nor Manu-Sanhita of course. But those who openly stand against Secularism as a whole, neither understand Secularism nor understand Dharma, nor embrace Science and Humanity. You're going against Bibekananda, you're absolutely going against Rabindranath.*
*Any move that even remotely perturbs Science Education, that's scary. We were in doom for thousand of years, not only because foreigners were oppressing us (which is true by the way) but because we were fanatic. We were screwd by our own Faith. You're an idiot to not making kids study Evolution from Class One, day one. I cannot trust you, because I care about hindus as well, and for the sake of hindus, I mustn't trust them who give any space to the fanaticism, superstitions, and religious extremism and violence. You're dangerous for Hindus themselves, trust me.*
*To save Bharat and its people and its Culture, we need **#CharvakRashtra**.*
When should evolution be taught? Now. Teach it now.
Ranga sir Rocks ❤
Who so ever is watching this podcast, dislike it
You should know to how to talk to a person like Mr Anand Sir
@kushalbhai i am ur subacriber and member because you call such intellect and talk in rational historic and contemporary issues.
Same as your AIM podcast that 'Horses- Cavalry-India wala!
Pleasr increase these kind of discussions..
❤
'Hosh sambhalna'
But I felt 'AKAL Sambhalna: was a jibe at Pappu 😂
Good one Anand 😂
Evolution was the only thing that was making some Muslims leave Islam, now Master Stroke on that too.
Goes to show you that an abrahamic athiest is still an abrahamic
Anand I have seen what Sagan said about Hinduism. Unfortunately he finished by saying "no doubt by chance". Please mention that too
Anand Ranganathan: Please read the book " The Living Cell" by Dr. Harold Hillman from the University of Surrey where he describes in detail what the cell contains and what it does NOT contain. According to Hillman, live tissue microscopy is the only way to look at living tissue and as such, once you examine living tissue under a simple light or compound microscope, organelles like ribosomes, golgi apparatus, rough and smooth endoplasmic reticulum and countless others described in textbooks have never existed in reality. Meaning that all the cell organelles described in standard textbooks were looked at under scanning electron microscopes where the tissue was dead, stained, dehydrated then later re-hydrated and as such "artifacts" were seen under the microscope, not actual organelles of LIVING cell cultures. Hillman describes ribosomes as artifacts (so does not exist in the cell) created as gas bubbles due to the manipulation of the tissue with unscientific techniques such as dehydration, freezing, staining etc which completely destroy the original tissue integrity and what is examined is just an artifact.
Very nice discussion, indeed! I learnt a lot on this important subject... thanks so much for thar pew graph!!
कुशल जी नमस्कार ! आपको पहिली बार देख-सुन रहाँ हूँ । वैसे तो history के लिये आपने शिवाजी महाराज का चित्र चुना ये ही चॅनेल subscribe करने के लिये काफी था। उपर से आप की और आनंद जी की (प्यारी प्यारी !) चर्चा ।२/३ मुद्दे रखना चाहता हूँ ….
१)गालिब का शेर आपने सुनाया, उस बात पर हमारे यहाँ बहूत कुछ पहिले से सोचा गया है।इसे एक भ्रम के तोर पर देखा गया है जीसे *त्रिपूटी* कहते है ।कर्ता~कर्म~कृती, ज्ञाता~ ज्ञान~ ज्ञेय ऐसी बहूत सारी त्रिपुटीयाँ है।संपुर्ण ज्ञान से ये मिट जाती है या vice Versa. विज्ञान पुर्णज्ञान के तरफ जाने की एक (one of the) विधी है, पुर्णज्ञान नही,ये मान्यता है।
२)survival of the fittest में competition का भाव है, coexistence का नहीं ; जो *जीवो जीवस्य जीवनम्* में दिखाई पडता है।
३)spirituality (आध्यात्मिकता) किसी मार्ग पर नहीं intent पर depend करती है। आनंद जी ज्ञानमार्गी है, शंका (doubting) इस मार्ग का मानो जैसे हतियार है। श्रद्धा तुट सकती है पर शंका नहीं, उसका निरसन ही होना पडता है। इसी कारण हिंदूओ ने अंतीम सत्य के तरफ जाने वाले किसी भी मार्ग को नाकारा नहीं, उसी समय सत्य का कोई अंतिम रुप भी रेखांकित करने की चेष्टा नहीं की - न इती, न इती।
आपका संवाद देखने में बहूत मजा आया। आपको और आनंद जी को बहूत सारी शुभकामनाएँ !!!
Anand repeatedly gave the "winged horse" example. Is he trying pull a Nupur Sharma here 😅. Kudos to him 👏
When Kushal talks about bigger concepts, I am like - "oho, Kushal knows all these? " . Sorry for not listening to your podcast earlier
What an episode, fantastic!!
Baba Ananda (or ranga baba) ne mujeh aaj enlightened kar dia. Anand sir ❤❤
Fun Fact-: When Charles Darwin visited Galpagos Island, he took a tortoise with him for study during his round the earth visit.
He Was brought to England for study.
That tortoise is still alive in Australian national park.
Edit-: sorry to say but actually he died in 2006😭😭😭
atheists ka pilgrimage sthaan😂😂
4:33 Dr. Anand rangnathan huge fan
This discussion is in support of the teaching of evolution. That is a no-brainer. Why has the subject been removed or shifted as he euphemistically says and do we get an answer or not is the burning question.
Hat off to Dr. Ranganathan, I am Ramesh an atheist from Mauritius.
‘In theory, we can keep going backwards like this until we come to the notion of a single species at the very beginning of
evolutionary time. If that is the case, then at some point in the history of
the earth, non-living material must have given rise to life. There are many
theories about how this might have happened. It would be interesting to
come up with theories of our own!’ This is from old ncert. So it did a preety good job.
but still didn't negate the religious beliefs. this is like virtue signaling, not proper words
I had to Google a lot while listening to Anand 😅 but thanks for clearing doubts
14:45 Jack Szostak made protocells from a lipid sac and a replicase - an RNA molecule that catalyzes its own replication.
So an RNA molecule was used.
Amazing podcast .
Thanks Anand. You are a gem. And thanks for enlightening us always.
Anand Ranganathan never misses 🕉️🇮🇳🙏😅
I don't have the time rn to watch this whole discussion, but please can someone give me a brief overview of what Anand argued and especially what he said about professor Richard Dawkins?
Interesting discussion.
Can you have discussion on seed fertilizer and pesticide and if any way out not to be controlled by giant multinatioal
Anand should become a minister in Indian government 🔥❤️
" Ranga vs gandu shikari " should be a new segment for the podcast. 😎🙏🏻
Indian civilisational thought does not empahasise on creation at a point of time. Its cyclic for us its more of a manifestation and resolution. Also the dasavathara follow the evolutionary sequence exactly like Matsya (fish), Kurma (tortoise), Varaha (wild boar) etc
wrong dashavatar have nothing to do with evolution
stop trying to relate everything science says with some random scriptures
I heard that chat gpt was also created by Sanatana?
@@mohammadalitaqi1997 yup no doubt about it
Pig and then directly human, no apes in between. This only show that you are unnecessary trying to fit Dasavatar in science
I used to admire Prof Dawkins
Pity
Evolution is a fact
The theory of Evolution tries to explains this fact ( successfully)
It is a scientific theory which means it has the highest level of credibility
Yes, credibility just like Dalton's Atomic Theory😂
Just a disclosure, prophet Mohammad for all the power and supernatural abilities he possessed, was poisoned to death by a meagre Jewish old woman
I remember college main bhi evolution tha toh humare teacher ne pdhya my muslims frnds class ke baad discuss kr rahe the ki asa thodi na hai yeh sab galat pdhate h etc etc at that time i didn’t understand ki problem kya hai but now i know…
Brilliant podcast 👍
Stanley Miller's experiement is about transformation of inorganic into organic compounds (amino acids) which are the building blocks of life. However, the agglomeration of the building blocks thru protocells (Jack Szotak's experiement) and fast mutation INTO organisms (with consciousness) remains #unknown. Therefore, for Anand to say that to say that evolution is an axiom is #incorrect.
Kattar Hindus talking about evolution telling that God doesn't exists
thats Sanatan Dharma
Let's have discussion on religious aspect of Hinduism. I would like to know your views on some specific theme and would like to share traditional views. Looking forward in hope of discussion. Thanks!
Brilliant Podcast 🙌 ps - Huge Ranganathan Sir fan❤
I think children in classes 3 and beyond must visit Planetarium and see the evolution session. It is beautifully presented.
Absolutely brilliant podcast
the recurring problem of science throughout the ages has always been this mindset "even though i have very limited evidence compare to the vastness of the problem i am trying to solve, but since i have found some evidence, may be it is only 5%, but i will try to explain the whole problem with this 5% since what i see is the complete truth and i will simply ignore the other possibilities and i will not even try to evaluate other possibilities"
This is what is western scientific mindset from the last 500 years on a high level.
Lmao. Shows your lack of understanding of science.
"even though i have very limited evidence compare to the vastness of the problem"
Evidence has nothing to do with 'vastness of a problem'. I do not know what you mean here. Try to articulate your statements more rigorously.
"i have found some evidence, may be it is only 5%"
You either have evidence for something or you do not. You can't represent it as a percentage.
"i will try to explain the whole problem with this 5% since what i see is the complete truth"
Our observations are considered facts. Hence they are complete truths.
"i will simply ignore the other possibilities and i will not even try to evaluate other possibilities"
The single most incorrect statement so far. How do you think atomic models replaced former ones?
"This is what is western scientific mindset from the last 500 years"
There's no western science. Science is science regardless of geography and history.
Heridity and evolution chapter 9 was in 10th std... evolution part was deleted..
Pure reflection of Late Christopher Hitchens... The Hitch slap
So anand ranganathan knows the question posed by Eugene wigner the unreasonable effect of mathematics in physical science .physicst should contact mr ranganathan .there are many more questions need to be answered and the questions are getting more deeper than ever before
I kinda remember learning evolution in 3rd standard. Is this really no longer there till 10th now?
but anyone who study science kind of know religion is not actually true
Religion is not true at all.
ChatGPT wrote this:
In the land of creatures, big and small,
A story unfolds, captivating all.
Listen closely, dear nursery friends,
As I take you on a journey that never ends.
Once upon a time, in a world so vast,
Life began with a single blast.
Long ago, in ancient seas,
Tiny organisms started this grandest of tales.
From single-celled wonders, they did grow,
Adapting and changing, as eons did flow.
Through countless years, life did evolve,
A marvelous dance, problems to solve.
Oh, how species flourished and transformed,
In their struggle to survive, they performed.
The brave and strong, they were set free,
Through the magical process called diversity.
From fish to frogs, and birds in the sky,
Creatures took flight, up so high.
With feathers, scales, and fur so warm,
They adapted to their ever-changing norm.
Giraffes with necks so long, reaching high,
To taste the leaves against the blue sky.
Elephants with trunks, strong and grand,
Evolution's touch shaped them by its hand.
Beneath the ocean waves, so deep,
Whales evolved, giants that gracefully leap.
From land to sea, and sea to land,
Life followed a path so wonderfully planned.
Humans, dear children, we are a part,
Of this tale, so dear to our heart.
With minds so bright and hearts so pure,
We strive to understand this world for sure.
The journey of evolution, a remarkable quest,
Filled with wonders, both east and west.
Nature's harmony, its balance and grace,
Teach us to cherish every unique face.
So, little ones, as you play and grow,
Remember this story, let its wisdom flow.
We are connected, all creatures alike,
In this web of life, let kindness strike.
For evolution teaches us, beyond the rest,
That love and compassion are truly the best.
Let's nurture our planet, protect and defend,
For a future where all life can transcend.
In this grand nursery of life, my dears,
Embrace diversity, banish all fears.
For in understanding, we shall thrive,
And keep the flame of evolution alive.
Excellent, Evolution is a must
Yes I agree with Anand sir. Even if he is your friend it doesn’t matter, he deserves a better introduction at least for the sake of new viewers. Unfortunately even after repeated attempts by Mr. Anand the host do not get it. 8:24
lingayat holy texts repeats most of things from upanishads, patanjali yoga sutra and some of saankya. lingayat founder basaveshwara or basavanna was against sanatana dharma because of untouchability and other superstitions which were very prevalent in sanatana dharma. he tried very hard to convince people of sanatanis to accept shudras as same and give them entry to the temples but they didnt accept his arguments so he only came out of sanatan dharma and created new system to attain enlightenment. even though he started new system of worship, it is largely inspired by combination of both bhakti and tantra of hinduism. he did this to give everyone their deserved rights for religiosity. he didnt called out anywhere it as separate religion in texts but he definitely criticized deity worship. according to him, shiva is nirguna form, that is para shiva. but nowadays lingayat gurus dont understand why he digressed from hinduism and maintaining similar stand of him against sanatana dharma even though hinduism gone through lots of reformation. i came to this observation because there are some instances in his life where he gave respect to enlightened people who got enlightened through hinduism.
Ranga bhai!!
Rangaa Bhaaiii!!!
@Kushal
Agree in Jainism they too have the concept of flat earth but I have never found a Jain sticking to the belief.
दोनो ऋषियों को शत शत नमन
If one gets the chance to give information to increase the understanding, they should give it. Let kar to sun hi lete hai aur kuchh Sikh bhi jayenge...Varna contemporary issue par to ek page is editorial hi enough hogi. He should have discussed Darwin's understanding of evolution and major development (glad that he did talked about Stanley miller experiment) that increased the understanding.
Hamare yahan Log "Truth" ya "Brahm" ko khoj rahe the To isqe liye alag alag Guruon or unki Guru Paramparaon ne Alag alag tariqe se Khoj ki,
Unka Udeshya Meterial Sukh ko prapt karna na hokar "Brahm" ko khojna tha,
Ishliye jinn Guruon ne भौतिक चीजों के जरिए खोजने का Prayas kiya, Unhone Aaj ki Science Se Similar Bahoot si Khoj ki Jo Aaj ke Scientist ke kaam bhi aa rahi hai ya unki khoj se similar nikal Rahi hai, Lekin Kuchh Khoj jese ki evolution Parr Guruon ki Theory Aaj Ki evolution Ki theory Se Thoda Doose karm me hai to ab Hamm सनातनियो ka Farz Banta hai ki Unn Guruon ka kahna Mante hue aaj ki jyada sahi or संतुलित evolution ki theory ko manna chahiye Or Anay Hinduon ko batana chahiye ki vo बजाय इसके कि आधुनिक Evolution Ka विरोध करने के इसे मानना चाहिए, और Hamare guruon ne यहां तक खोजा है आगे का हमे inn आधुनिक साइंटिस्ट के साथ मिलकर खोजना है क्योंकि यही हमारे गुरुओं का मानना था ना की गुरुओं का उद्देश्य यह था कि Hamm ek baat ko pakad karr bethe rahe kyonki agar essa nahi hota to Hamre yahan "Sastrarthh" ka system nhi hota vo Ishliye hi tha ki Jo kamm sahi ya kamm Tarkik hai ko rukna chahiye or jo jyada sahi hai ko Aage badhna chahiye
🙏🙏🙏
#KushalMehra
Key point we need to be humble about our understanding of nature because our discovery of universe compared to ocean will be a glass of water.
For instance as per our understanding till yesterday was that it took at least 1 billion years for the first galaxy to form but James Webb found otherwise.
Also, I agree with Anand we shall be clearly stating that the current evidence of evolution negates the current idea of god that has been propagated to us.
Thank you
Anand bhai .. subscribed
Islam is true relegion coz Big bang started with an explosion and if allah didn't exist who threw stones at dinosours for the first time
It's going to be taught but who? class 11th and mainly who chooses biology and is in science what about different fields and streams they will never learn inside of school/colleges.it's like it's remove
The simple fact that Darwinian evolution can be proved, by the four experiments that Anand Sir mentioned - makes it a theorem, not an axiom any more. I checked the definition of Theory and Axiom. Am I missing something here?
You are correct.
A theorem is a mathematical statement whose truth has been logically established and has been proved and an axiom is a mathematical statement which is assumed to be true even without proof.