Shortchanging a Club Member
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- The plaintiff says while he was president of his social club, he renovated the club’s kitchen. He claims when the showoff defendant took over as president, he ripped off the plaintiff for the balance he’s owed, so he’s suing. The defendant says the plaintiff illegally loaned the club tens of thousands of dollars at a high interest rate, so he’s countersuing for overpaid interest.
Case #24-093
It's like watch the mob bosses going head to head.....this was gold😂
That’s what I thought
Everyone wants to be heard, no one wants to listen
You said it
"When you honest you don't need to be afraid of nobody "
Really a slap in the face after all the stuff he did for them. Should have kept his 30k
And howwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
@@barbsyorkies what
@@cookieee143 and how means they agree lol
@@iluvbears4861 oh okay thanks lol
Wish I could add the gif of the little rascals lol
The plaintiff's "Alright!" at the end made me happy for him!
The defendant doesn't even know what the club is. Crazy choice for a President
Lol so true. He struggled so much to describe what the club was 🤦🏾♀️
Italian only. That part was clear.
No he just doesn’t wanna say Mob
Sounds like the united states with Biden😂
I think he does know, but can't really say. He seemed a bit secretive about it.
I love this little “Alright 💪🏽” good for you buddy you did it. He was a good guy 🙂
Legend has that the defendant is still rustling and shuffling those damn papers till this day...0_o!
I don't have a lot of faith in the defendant when he can't even explain what the club he's the president of is for. ...
I mean English is not his 1st language. It makes it harder...
Ethnic clubs are cool to me, you have ppl from your culture that can relate to you. Ppl from the same background and traditions.
exactly nothing wrong with that at all.
Ok racists
So are they only going to rent homes to their own kind only too??
Completely agree! A person's ethnicity can be a big part of them and to be able to come together with other people who can relate and share stories and memories with can be really wonderful and enriching. It's not as if they are living their whole lives in those clubs anyway, probably only meeting once a week at the most but it's still a great place to meet some friends.
Until it gets tribal as all groups tend to do, and start consolidating power and influence as groups tend to do, and before you know it, you have the KKK and the Democrats and Republicans... if you think the ethnic club that you might be apart of wouldn't start trying to taking advantage of "non-members" if they had the ability to do so, you're delusional. Tribalism is hard-wired in to our DNA, and we have to at least be vigilant and skeptical of our inclination to embrace it.... It's a slippery slope.
10 yrs as president and every member stood beside him. New guy comes causes trouble . Probably not totally honest. And members with new president has the nerve to do this to the old president. Over measly 360$$$$
AND THREW HIM OUT OF THE CLUB!!!
The new leader doesn’t like the old leader. He got the assembly together and tried to find flaws in his old leadership. The new leader did the math and honestly thought that the old leader was getting paid too much from the loan and the judge corrected him and said the numbers were correct. Neither man was wrong, that’s what the courts are for. I’m not sure what happened btwn them two but one thing for sure, these guys wouldn’t spit on each other if the other man was on fire 🔥
I like the old leader better, He got stuff done and even put his own skin in the game. The new guy doesn't understand amortization of loans and misrepresented the by laws to the membership in order to initiate a hostile overthrow based on personal disagreements.
I used to be a member of a statewide school fund raising and advocacy association. There was an accusation by executive members against the president. Apparently she had authorised the lease of a company car without the ok of the executive committee (there was legitimate need of such but it hadn't been put to a vote according to the committee minutes). Anyway, she was savaged over the matter, publicly humiliated and lost her position. One of the people making the accusation was then unanimously voted in as President.
It all turned out to be a twist of the facts. All of her accusers actually signed off on the lease. The only things the President did wrong was not putting the decision to the entire association (not legally required but recommended) and not making sure that the decision was properly minuted.
It was all a power grab, not planned from the beginning though. The executive wanted to take power and looked hard for a reason to get rid of the President.
@@fibienn250 yea this definitely now seems like a power grab to me
It's money laundering.. he wants to get the other guy out so he can start skimming off the top
@Christopher Moore agreed
I feel like I stumbled into the "Bada Bing"!!😂😂
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I can say the older men who is running the club honesty was his best policy he lived and breathed by what the judge lived and breathe by so salute to him for winning his case.
That was the cutest thing I’d ever seen. That man said “ALRIGHT!” 😂
As someone of Sicilian descent the plaintiff just melts my heart. Reminds me of the men who used to play cards around the table while the women would chat in the kitchen and make espresso in the little coffee tins.
I've had to watch that generation fade and it's a real loss. But I'm lucky that I got to experience a part of it.
Lots of good things died out with that generation. Homophobia, sexism, racism, ableism, etc, was rampant back then (even more so than now). I’m Italian, too, but some traditions need to go.
@@BeKind2AllKindsyes but what that person was talking about was the beautiful sense of community and that is coming to an end and it's truly sad
Oh, let me go tell my credit card company I don't have pay interest. I'm sure they will agree with me lol
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IKR? How can they charge such a high interest if it is illegal?
If someone didn’t wake up at the end of this with a severed horse’s head in their bed, I’m going to be very disappointed
The plaintiff looked like an old school guy who worked hard and gave a lot to thw club for TEN YEARS. The Def. Looks like a guy born into money who now wants to be a godfather character and throw some weight around and I think gearing rid of the plaintiff was revenge. But dang they don't have a treasurer who knows math or at least take in to the bank for a second look at the interest? Definitely looked dumb
the judge is so smart, fast on her feet with these cases ..and business/ clubs like these can get ugly.. family or just friends.. once the cash starts rolling in everyone turns into a monster! outside people/ government getting involved with rules and regulations. makes things worse.. where people/ members be like, f this im done bye.
Old leader seems like an ok dude. New leader seems like a snake.
This case boiled down to simple math?! Despite the judge having to clarify that the bylaws didn’t say what they thought it said, he hung his hat on the wrong argument. What a mess.
Yep Compound interest with a hint of Egos!! 😂
How could the defendant, at this age, being a president of an organization, living in US, not know to compound interest when calculation loan payment. Furthermore, isn't the loan calculator all over the internet for easy estimate?
The ending was the best part!! I love how the platinf pretty much gloated yelling All right! like haha screw you i win lmao!!!
I’m in this episode. In the audience. Right side, in the back. Black and white tie with a green shirt. The staff was wonderful. She’s beautiful and so sweet...
I see you back there!!
What a cool experience ☺️
Fantastic case. Again, Judge Milian at her best 👍
After listening to this case I would've thought that these two club members could've been able to come to some kind of agreement to keep this out of court for such a small amount of money.
the real issues came out in the hallway chats with Kurt, after the Judge ruled.
An agreement? The plantiff loaned the club a small fortune and at a smaller percentage than what the bank was asking, probably saved them around 2k in interest. If someone wants to punch you in the face and you don't want to be punched in the face, do you think you compromise by getting punched in the stomach?
They are not just two members, they are administrators of the club. This is a matter that was brought before the entire membership and was voted on. The dispute is not about the amount of money, it is about an accusation of misappropriation which the plaintiff proved was false.
Well well well Mr new sheriff in town, let's see how you can manage the club
Lol, these guys remind me of my best friend’s dad and uncles in middle school. Plus her mom always tried to feed me, you’re too skinny, what’s the matter, sit down and eat NOW. LOL. good times!
This is why I don't donate to charities or anythinf unless I know it's going to a direct person in need instead of lining pocket. This all sounds so illegal.
I donate directly to my local library, my kids schools, their classrooms and local fundraisers (a family lost everything in a fire, a little girl in my girls' school that had cancer).
I'm with you, no one should pad their pockets when others are in need.
Most charities are a scam set up and designed to pay the people running it.
A lot of them keep most of the money in wages, and group dinners!
When you give a cheque to charity, church, etc. write on it what it is for; they are legally bound to distribute it there. Otherwise than can validate it and use it however they want.
I love how the defendant said the plaintiff kicked people out and then he did the same lmao 🤣
360$?!?!?! What in the name!!! The has nothing to do with that little money...
I suddenly want to watch Goodfellas, a Sophia Petrillo montage, and a Sopranos marathon. Those accents are golden.
you can not charhe over 10 percent as a private person but CC companies and car title loans are almost no limit
Our Godfathers. Gotta love these wise guys. Proud Italian here. 🇮🇹
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Calm down.
I kept expecting to hear judge judy shout at them to stop playing with their papers lol. Maybe it's not a good idea for me to watch back to back judge judy for a hour and then watch this lol.
Italian American clubs are just a bunch of older Italian gentlemen that talk, smoke cigars, cook and play cards. It's really nothing serious.
One of my favorite middle school teacher was in the audience ❤️
That’s Awesome! How cool to see someone you know on National TV..😀
Guys guy GUYS! Enough with the shuffling of the papers ... lol
Man this case is so interesting to listen to
Ethnic clubs are good especially to keep cultures alive
Club? Sounds like a modern version of the MOB lol
Tony Soprano would've straightened this whole mess in the kitchen.
😂😂
I hope the new president now has egg on his face from this. Before coming to court no one on his exec/admin team thought to ask anyone to consider how interest is calculated on loans?! This should have been as simple as a phone call or a couple letters back and forth to determine how interest was calculated, and whether it was in line with standard procedure for loans.
Dam even the mafia is on people court 😂
The plaintiff if the type of man who probably still applies shaving cream with a soft bristle brush and shaves with a straight razor ☺️
**also his wife shushing him is adorable 😍
0:41 How's is 5.0% illegal when car dealerships, Banks, credit cards, and Lawyers charge up to 30.0% The financial institutions are the biggest legal loanshark in America. It's just not right!
Because this club falls under different regulations
At 4:04 you can hear the defendant mutter “scema” (“stupid”) under his breath
I think this club wants to reap the rewards of that the ex member help put into place by taking out loans in his own personal name to help the club yet don't want to pay the man back. It's called greed.
May you have a very pleasant day and be blessed. Keep your loved ones close to you, you never know when it will be the last. Also Remember, you don’t have to like your families lifestyle but you can still love each other and have a good relationship. You know what brings families together, a good meal, which I teach a hodgepodge of.
The original good fellows..😂
This man put his own Money into the Membership and the kick him out after he fix up the place - boy or boy - Just pay the man his 360 what a joke.
I feel like I’m watching sopranos, what next big carmine is about to walk in?
Lord have mercy, the outside audience, disagree with their line if thinking..should be able to have both, specific clubs and diverse clubs based on a person's preference. It's a free country.
Exactly what I was thinking. Everyone feeling so good about themselves for promoting a more "inclusive" and "equal" society by denigrating clubs or organizations that don't automatically open their doors to just anyone. Is this a free country or not?
man the intros seriously!! 😂😂😂😂
Still to this day nothing is funnier than disagreeing Italians.
Why can't these guys string together a coherent full sentence?! JM has to construct their stories for them!!
Did you not hear the heavy accent? No matter how long someone has lived in the US after immigrating it can be hard for them to speak English fluently, especially if they speak mainly in their mother country's language on a daily bases. It doesn't mean that they are ignorant or something is wrong with them. At least on the plaintiff's behalf, it doesn't.
@@shadowkissed2370 I do hear the New York Burrough accent, which is not a foreign one. And I do understand how some foreigners have this difficulty after working abroad for 10 years. These guys are US born, IMHO, and just members of an Italian social club. They just don't communicate well. Listen to the new club president, the defendant, describe the club. He can't. JM has to fill in the blanks and guess that it's a social club.
@@dakalashi New York accent? He has an Italian accent... The plaintiff is NOT US-born. You might want to re-watch from the beginning where it says "he came to America, struggled to make it work for 55 years for his money."
I agree about the defendant though.
I love Italians so passionate
they are sicilians
@@hereandnow8578 That’s in Italy 🤦🏽♀️
I love the comments from the folk outside.
This is screaming MOB🤣🤣
The plaintiff reminds me of my papi. He’s so sweet
I wanna tell "STOP PLAYING WITH YOUR PAPERS "🤣🤣having headphones on its disturbing trying to hear the people talk.
His the president but he can’t even explain his club ??? 😂😂😂😂😂
Wow. This was a long, rough start to get to the lawsuit.
Definitely giving Mob life😆😆
There is some bad blood between the plaintiff and defendant. That's why he took the defendant to court.
How’re you mad about interest you agreed to pay???
Tell me this doesn't sound like the place where the good Fellas convened??? 😂😂😂😂 Man it just does... Classic Movie. #riprayliotta
Let me get back to the case I just had to say it...
How TF did I not know Ray Liotta died until I saw your hashtag???!!! Omg I can't believe I didn't hear about it anywhere
Just hearing the case at the top then seeing them walk in all I could think of was Seinfeld,
Where Jerry's parents lived,lol.
Harvey with these asinine questions
OMG. Her voice, when she starts SCREAMING, is SOO FUCKING GRATING 😮😢😢😢
It’s Pauline walnuts and the st Nazair festival.
Sure it’s not the mafia? Lol
Just built a Tree house and create a club, save your money.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I still don’t know what the club does. Maybe next episode.
The defendant has a really cool last name! I wonder if he is related to Enzo?!?
If it wasn't for the plaintiff spending a lot of his own 🤑 and getting loans in his name.
I bet that club wouldn't be there as of the time when this show aired.
This shows how much he really loved his club and the people there.
The defendant and two year President votes with the assembly to kick him out .
😳 How crappy!
I guess that this President and assembly really wanted the club house to close rather than the Plaintiff using his money and so on.
That can't be it!
The new President wanted him out because he probably wanted to be a big man on campus.
And he talked to the assembly board about the ex-president in a bad way.
I'm sure that his heart and soul were shattered when they gave him the 👢.
These guys are really anti-social for members of a social club.
A "club"
This stuff is Mafia money laundering
Love the comb over
I feel for JM. We Italians are a bit much 😂
There's probably a lot of drama going on in that "club."
Surprised that Chef Boy-Ar-Dee and Enrico Caruso wd come to a judge for justice vs The Five Families
Everyone on the street will shame the Italian club for being racist but they would celebrate an African-American club. They aren't loving, they just go along with whatever they think they are supposed to.
The new boss got lost on the first question, and it went downhill from there?
$52 dollars a month it would take 48 yrs to pay off
Judge got this one mostly wrong IMO. I really don't like when judges get emotional and grandstand and fail to LISTEN. Harvey got the truth in a 20 second debrief at the end. The defendant said, and I believe him that the plaintiff was actually a BULLY and threw people out of the club for no reason. I knew there was more to it. She wrongly got hung up on the $3xx dollar amount. She threw her power around and got loud and failed to LISTEN. He was trying to explain and she emotionally cut him off. It was not about the money. Many people did not like the guy- it's that simple. The new president did what others wanted him to do.
Are you a judge or a lawyer?
the lady whispering the whole time is irritating
That young lady is very bright in the audience. Stop segregating yourselves!
Disagree..people who have a common interest should be able to have a club unless its to promote harm to others. Granted, I have traveled oversees to many countries, worked with middle eastern people, asian, white, black, hispanic and serviced students from all over the world.
"Social Club" = AKA The Mafia.
If the group is to provide s sense of community through language and culture, why are cultural groups a bad thing... Brought together for the right reasons, these are good especially for older people and also younger people who want to learn more about their culture. Yes these groups are negative, if they act in a way that does promote segregation from the wider community and county they are in.
Totally agree..☺
This just proved that adults act just like children. Don’t join any clubs lol
heh, these old mafioso's, good to know types like this still exist :)
Nah the defendant definitely knew what was up he was just being a fucking dick for personal reasons but they didnt have a problem expecting the money just paying it back
She’s right about segregation but African Americans are one of the worst offenders. Hope she takes her own advice to heart
bro put your papers down and talk. also your "social club" sounds like money laundrying.
This is giving me mafioso vibes
The plaintiff did nothing wrong. The defendant is nuts
so who found a horses head in their bed?
Before becoming president of the club, the plaintiff was a junk dealer on Tatooine.
HITLER AND MOUSSILINI, THEY DIED, MAYBE IM THE NEW ONE 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gee, I wonder what kind of Italian "club" this really is.