Trash Pump Thrown Away - Will it Run?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- I found this Hyundai trash pump in the trash. It looks to be in good condition and not missing any parts. Will the engine run and does the pump work? Lets find out.
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Don't know if anyone ever told you but you are the Bob Ross of restoration with a calming, teaching voice .
Couldn't agree more!
I ran across his channel a couple hours ago and I've watched two generator repair videos and now I'm on this video. Not many youtubers are "good at what they do"(repairing things the right way and editing videos perfectly) but this guy has got it down to a fine art 😂😂 definitely adding him to My subscribed list lol
We live in such a throw away society. Relatively, very few people actually know how to troubleshoot and fix things. I love the challenge of fixing things. James, you do a great job at documenting all the steps to fix something right. Good job!
Sadly manufacturers don't want us repairing things. So many items are literally un repairable. It's pathetic.
If you calculate his time spent and the parts you could buy a new pump...
Great job James love you're videos but we never see your face.😅😅
@@williamduncan5679 you can see his face in some if his videos, he is not hiding it. He is trying to show as much details as possible of his work, that's why he stays out of the video.
@@Snooooozelyou’re missing out on what’s going on here
I'm a former mechanic for Denver's Transit System Retired after 32 years. Really enjoy watching you work on these engines!!🙂👍
Thanks
getting it from the dumpster gives a whole new meaning to trash pump :)
Nicely sorted James. There is certainly high quality trash in your neck of the woods.
Mr Condon,
Sometime in the future, I personally would like to hear your story, and how you have become so learned in all things about small engines and generators. I think your audience would enjoy this. Keep up the great content.👍😀
Definitely agree !
Would love to hear
I would love to hear that story too
Yeah I also would like to hear this
Everybodly loves a good origin story.
Holy smokes that is a wicked fast pump! The demonstration of emptying the trash can was truly amazing. Good job on the overhaul!
If you are going to work on trash pumps, it's handy to have two short hoses to pump the water out of and back into the same container. I have also just connected the outlet and inlet together when just testing the engine to keep the pump wet. I like the Hipa carbs. I keep one in stock for each yard machine I have at home.
FYI, the typical method for bench testing a pump is to have an output hose going right back into the same container.
Thanks, this video was very timely for me. I've got a log splitter that is running lean, like your engine was. I now know what steps I can take to diagnose the problem and hopefully fix it.
Your videos are exceptional video tutorials on generator and engine repair, but I have also learned some great techniques in use of tools. I have a Honda EB5000 generator that sat for 8 years but always kept indoors but not used and gas not drained completely. But thanks to your videos I attacked the repair as you have described many including, cleaning the carb and tank, spark, compression, setting governor for 60 Hz, and valve spacing. And I have a smoothing running generator that makes good power! I sent another THANK YOU!
We run these pumps a lot to pump oil and actually as long as there is at least some liquid in the pump left - it will prime itself out. -There is a rudimental self priming mechanism presented by a small port in the cast iron housing around the pump wheel. Also that rubber flap doesn't care at all about the presents of liquid. But it does have a serious flaw which is the piece of rubber that connects the weighted flap to the casket part - it gets ripped eventually then gets sucked inside the pump that in turn chew the hell out of it. So we got very good result replacing the rubber with a piece cut out of a gumboot as those have some kind of a woven reinforcement on one side. It works at least two times longer than the original rubber part.
Interesting idea, using a bit of boot, but did you ever try a piece of conveyor belt? That stuff is tough as nails, but still flexible. When we had the chance, we would buy it used. because even when a conveyor belt is "worn out" it was more than enough for mud guards to keep down spray on our big concrete saws.
Gumboot is probably either made out of a material similar to insertion rubber or EPDM.
I know most insertion rubber I've ever seen has a cloth weave within it
You can buy it in different thicknesses too to closely match the original part
I'm honestly baffled why ANY ONE of the 160 people would have thumbs' downed this video. This video was incredibly informative, USEFUL and excellently shot and explained. Must be kids who don't know any better and couldn't resolve a problem if it wasn't a 3 minute fix... Great job! Just became a Subscriber.
As always my friend great video my dad bless him always said half the job is having the correct tools for the job you certainly do my friend again thank you
You have the most amazing parts stash I have ever seen. I have about ten carbs in my stash now, and I thought I was doing something. It pays to hoard though (literally). lol
Amazing what some folks will abandon and throw away. Nice repair.
I really enjoy seeing other people's toss off being repaired back to working order, especially for such a small parts cost. Watching these is so enjoyable and when asked what I watched recently, I tell them I watched a string of small engine repair videos and I get all kinds of eye rolls over my viewing habits 😃. Better than most network tv shows.
Seriously, between this channel and Ted Woodford's guitar repairs there are zero network shows that I care to watch more. 👍👍
For the demonstration of vintage petrol pumps ~ a large plastic barrel would have a hole drilled near the ground and a pipe connector screwed into the side and a pipe to the pumps intake > from the pumps outlet - a plastic/metal pipe up the side of the barrel with a swan-neck bend at it’s top > pouring the water back into the barrel = the pump doesn’t run out of water, the water is seen pouring-visualising the pump working and keeps the pump cool
Great job at low expense! What amazes me is why designers always put the oil drain right over the frame so that it makes a huge mess to drain the oil. Could they not have cut an opening in that frame so the oil could run through it and into a drain pan underneath? Such a simple solution. My lawn tractor was the same, so I put a threaded pipe in the drain hole and an elbow and plug on the end. Now the oil drains beyond the frame into the pan. No muss, no fuss.
Just watch for harmonic vibration of te running engine to bend the pipe up and down microscopically flexing it.
It will inevitably break off over time...
Better to install one of those short valved fittings specifically designed to allow the oil to drain into a coupling with hose attached...
push the hose end fitting onto the valve set in the usual oil plug hole.... and oil flows out....
You can thread a small length of pipe with a ball valve on it and put a 90 degree fitting with a pipe plug in the end. It makes oil changes easier and the pipe plug prevents disaster if you hit the ball valve by accident
Same thing applies....the extra length poking out of the oil drain hole flexes and causes fatigue in the metal.
The shorter the extennsion, the lighter the weight..the better.
@@chrisrageNJ
@JohnSmith-yv6eq I get what you're saying but all I do is use a nipple short enough to use the ball valve handle, then another one just long enough to give a straight shot to drain. I have a heavy pipe strap bolted over the pipe at the edge of the platform with a few layers of rubber sheeting cut an inch wide and as tall as necessary to support the end. I don't usually sell my equipment so I set it up to make it easy for myself to maintain when I acquire them. It's not much work
Look how long and effort it's taken to fix it. Contractors have to get the job done. They probably bought a new one.
Just for future reference a plate with a rubber gasket and with a hole in it's center and a vacuum gauge over the suction once it has water in it can be used for cking the health of the pump. It should draw 25inhg. It only works for trash pumps. It doesn't work with the snail type pressure pumps.
Hi James, I have a Hyundai inverter generator with this exact same engine and was recently able to repair it due to what I learned from your videos. The exhaust valve had no clearance (from factory - this generator was new) so it was extremely hard to start and would backfire through the exhaust. After adjusting it now it runs well. Thank you for your time to show us these, at least for me and I'm sure others as well have found your videos very useful.
Wow! When that pump gets going it’s really something to see! Great job, Jim! 🔧👍
I never saw this in carbs back in the 70s before ethanol gasoline. We had carbs with rust from water and dried regular-type gasoline, but the Ethanol added a new type of destruction to carbs. I buy ONLY ethanol-free fuel for my gasoline-powered equipment, It just isn't worth cheapening out on gas to ruin an expensive power tool.
I NEVER buy ethanol free gas and yet to have a problem.
I have a place in Louisiana and a place in Alaska. There is so much humidity in Louisiana that ethanol gas just pulls moisture from the air and rusts out tanks and carbs. Now Alaska on the other hand does not allow ethanol in fuel because it can cause ice to form and stall your engine which could be fatal if stranded with no heater. So I can't comment on ethanol fuel in the drier Alaskan climate, but fuel tanks and carbs up here tend to hold up very well.
Funny how you could run a Ford Model T on 100% ethanol, but modern small engine carbs seem to dissolve in the stuff. Crappy materials I guess :(
Hi Jim!
Doing well I see. If you recall… I am Steve in Ellison Bay, Wisconsin. The ole man who was a pro small engine mechanic BF You were even born! 😅.
Nice job on this trash pump. 98 things done right. For my 2 “nit pickings” (just to polish you up even more.
1. Never use a petroleum product on rubber or plastic of any sort. Much less a potentially dangerous fuel line. You used WD40 (98% kerosene) on the fuel line. No big deal, but garages & homes have burned down for less. Especially if you ever start working for others (liability). A better choice would be silicone spray or nothing. These fuel lines were meant to have that high friction factor for a fuel line dealing with the strong vibration.
I was impressed how you found the faulty Schrader Valve! Well done Jim!
On all the rusty parts Jim, that you cleaned with the Dremel tool, a touch of “anti-seize” later with a little brush to just put the slightest dab on the threads to spread around on its own. Shows you care and are a pro. Remember now… with the rust being removed on the dremel wheel, along goes the remainder of the zinc coating. Especially since I might convince you to keep this nice little pump.
Why keep it??? Fire Prevention. You may not have a swimming pool to pull from, but what about a children’s pool or better yet, a rain catchment tank from off your roof? A tank leading into your basement in winter? ( If your pump will pull a 10-20’ head)?
Then check with your local fire dept., for old hose that they routinely replace. (Offer a minute on your next pump video of the local fire dept.).
And the same on a fire nozzle. I used to have both a 2” & a 3” pump with fire nozzles for both.
And the pump is great for high -volume- cleaning of an old boat, cellar, etc.
Just a thought Jim. I felt good knowing I had a safety fire pump at the ready with burning a wood stove 24/7.
Your work now shows me you are highly polished and skilled in your overall skill set. Your trouble-shooting sequence is spot on.
Keep up the good work my friend. 😅.
Steve up in Ellison Bay.
I can't offer a good counter argument on the use of lubricants, other than to say that I can't conceive a situation where there will be enough pressure to push it off the nipple, but my main question is with the thinking on not using a petro based lube on the fuel line as fuel is petro based?? On other rubber things like vacuum lines, water valve seals and so on, then I wholeheartedly agree - silicone is the better product.
Amazing what a difference a very small increase in the jet size makes!
Not a big fan of what he did there. I think there's something else going on and he just compensated for the other problem. After use and someone has to replace the carburetor again.... they will face the same issue. If the carburetor doesn't work according to designed specs, the problem is somewhere else.
I think modern engines run lean side (emissions) and any problem stop them working.
Just a Heads up! Spray the aluminum heads with Tire Shine Tire Spray or Silicone to stop the white powdery corrosion. Darkens the aluminum heads a bit but looks Great
ACF50 my friend, formulated for the aerospace industry safe on all metal, (not brake parts though, obviously) and well as electrical, used around the world for winterising motorbikes
Matt, you are amazing!! Your work ethic is awesome and you push the envelope and take some well calculated risks. And it’s paying off. Thanks for making us older retired guys feel like we are right there with you on your adventures.
My absolute favorite Channel. I even end up
walking away from the TV humming your theme music👍. 😊
I've learned so much from watching your videos on carb issues I can't thank you enough Jim
Pretty impressive how rapidly the water fell in the garbage can even with water running to keep it full. Now it's a real workhorse. A pool no problem. A pond well depends what size pond and inlet flow. During flooding with adequate fall away from pond will keep homes free of water.
the thrust from the jet of water was quite considerable .. what a super find .. as always a joy to follow your work .
Just replaced my very first carb on a small engine after two years of being able to revive existing ones. This one had a loose throttle lever creating an air leak. Replaced with a Hipa carb kit and the tiller started right up. I found both needles turned all the way in but I knew the factory specs and was able to easily tune the engine in a couple of minutes.
This reminds me of fixing my old tiller with a Subaru Robin engine. I couldn't find the carburetor for it, so I ordered a Chineseum carburetor, but it came with the wrong gaskets. When I finally found the correct gaskets, I found the rebuild kit for the original carburetor. The gas tank was very similar to the original tank on the trash pump, though the gas line was way shorter.
Very well put together and informative content. No filler, just facts.
I am impressed by your logical language and comprehensive approach toward repairing engines and equipment. It is almost unbelievable how completely you pursue the last remaining issues of deficiency before equipment receives your acceptance of complete. Your review of all the basic factors help me understand better what all has to be right to make engines work and helps me understand equipment more. On one of your recent videos I was wondering if you would take a last look at what I considered a minor issue and sure enough you addressed even that issue. Incredible!
I know very little about small engines but have been able to fix my own when need be. Watching your video let me know how lucky I have been. You showed me that there is a lot more to know than I was aware of. Thanks!
Jetting lol. It almost took off like a jet engine. Great video James and yeah very impressive “trash” pump!
Enjoyed!
Great work James - I cant believe that it had been thrown out. You're fortunate to be able to get items like this now & again. It could prove itself to be a worthy machine to have available at a moments notice.
I can. If a business doesn't have someone on staff who can fix it then it's cheaper and easier for them to just throw it out and buy a new one, especially if they need it right now for a job.
Hello James: what a find. I was waiting for you to end up cleaning the original carb and have the unit back up and running. Your ultrasonic cleaner is going to feel neglected. The cost of the replacement units is so cheap keeping a spare on the shelf is in many cases cheaper than just buying a rebuild kit. Do not worry excessively about keeping the pump full while testing. Most are designed to self prime to some degree, running empty for a short time ( think in seconds not minutes), will not ruin the pump. I had a 5 gallon fuel can with inlet and discharge fittings attached to create an endless loop for load and leak testing of the pump. Not perfect but works well enough and saves a lot of water. Keep up the good work and do not let Mr. /Mrs. ultrasonic go unused too long you will hurt it's feelings (LOL).
Try removing studs to get carb off.
Probably Dremel some slots in the ends of the studs for screwdriver
Yeah at least one stud was loose.
There always pretty well seized and with there length your playing with fire
Excellent as always, I've had a couple of items I got from the trash,the last was a Husqvarna self propelled, all it needed was a carb
Sir, your videos are extremely well done and your skills are bar to none. And how you troubleshoot everything = excellent! Thank you!
As always, excellent video!
I understand this video is some time ago, but I enjoy that you go from start to finish in the same video. I wish I had your patience.
Have a pump like this myself and "No name". Incredible pumping capacity and cheap it was too. Bought in Sweden and it is probably made in China! I am very pleased with it.
I must admit, I've been guilty. In 1992 I bought a little 1000 watt Yamaha generator after Hurricane Andrew. That little guy lasted us 23 years and I cant even remember how many hurricanes and storms. When it was finally time to bug out of Florida [best decision I ever made!] it didnt make much sense to pay to have that guy shipped half way across the country [you pay movers by the POUND not the sq. footage], especially when the new place had a much bigger and almost brand new generator waiting for us. So I took it to the recycle center, left a sign on it that it was running and worked great and was FREE [obviously] . Hopefully it went to a good home!
Sir you are an expert in generator/pump/lawn mower engine repairs (in this case a pump), you are the best I've seen!!! Love your content!!!
You are a wizard ! At repairs !
some folks will throw anything away .. nice fix james !
Thanx, James. Brilliant find from the trash and great diagnosis/fix, as always.
Why can't I find any treasures like this around my neighborhood!!! Let us know your cost/profit sometimes, OK.
It was close to $40 in parts for the repair. The suction hose was $75 :(
Love your small engine videos.
Great job buddy!!!
Another one in the long list of great videos
Obviously, items with small gas engines will have carb problems. Like others here, I love The calm,at ease way, James, approaches and solves the problems, with a few tools. great videos. Imagine all the fixable items that are sent to the landfill
good save on the trash pump
Nice carb bucket lol. This ethanol gasoline or whatever it is stinks for corrosion and rust on aluminum parts etc. enjoyed the fix 👍btw I had the surging problem and found out the plastic part between the carb and engine was cracked. Replaced it and all was well
How true. I was trying to fix a similar problem on a snow blower. Loved a little choke otherwise it hunted. Overshot right out the gate with no back up. Replaced the carb!!!
I bought a Hyundai 2" water pump a couple years ago and they're a really good pump. The biggest problem today is so many people don't know how to look after there stuff or how to fix anything. The next issue is if your stumped the cost of servicing these things exceeds the price of a new one so into the garbage with the old and off to the store for another. Best tip a person can give is buy tools when your young cause they save money all your life as you constantly learn as you use them. Plus i only use premium fuel and Seafoam in my small 4 cycle engines, and just started using premix in my 2 cycle. But that all depends on your areas fuel quality.
I don't know anything about these engines, but I learned something about engines surging, and why. 😊
I had a similar pump from Northern Tool I used as a backup to my sump pumps at my previous house. Never had to run it full throttle except to prime it but it did run between 1/2 and 2/3 throttle at times. As a side note, the idle mixture screw should be adjusted at idle and not at any other speed. Great fix!
The idle screw will add fuel at all speeds. But usually not noticeable except when at idle.
@@jcondon1 You are 100% correct but all service information I have seen from various manufacturers say to adjust the idle mixture screw first. Obviously because of CARB we no longer have both options anymore....
Great video! Really nice pump now. Super clear video work. Great detail! Thanks for making it!
Great job!!! That pump would come in handy for a flooded basement for sure! Thanks!
The Honda version of these pumps are used in wildland firefighting to supply fire engines from static water sources. They work really well and are a world better than what we used to use - unreliable 2t floato-pump.
That needle leaking problem from the nylon seat fitting is a common problem with carburetors that have had fuel sitting in them and going off or fuel with ethanol in them. The nylon cracks or warps and the needle will not seal.
Thank you, I learnt more about carborettors and hunting issues in this 1 video that I have in 60 years 😊
Really unfortunate that someone threw out a Hyundai water pump, but great methodical work to salvage it as always! 👏
Excellent job Jim, boy can that pump crank, you will have alot more garbage pickups with the Ford f150 now
Looks like a very powerful pump with high capacity. I'm always a bit bothered by all of that yellow plastic. It reminds me of LEGO. Thanks very much for another informative video.
Who in there right mind throw away such a good looking machine without trying to fix it ? Crazy !
James, I tried but failed to notice what you were hearing when it was running rich. Lean is obvious though with the surging.
Next time you run a small engine start turning in the choke until you hear the engine sound change. That is what rich sounds like.
@@jcondon1 Thanks James. That will come in handy!
I remember from working on these with the carb positioned right in front of the frame, i always removed the 2 studs on which the carb slides, way easier! Thank you for the videos! Love it!
Thoroughly enjoyed the video, I know zippo about small engine repair, but found your step by step teaching very good and certainly held my interest. Thank you😊
Boy the things people just throw away.
Great find easy fixes.
I really enjoy your vids...at first I thought they were sort of boring, but then I came to appreciate your dry sense of wit and huge talent.Keep up the great work!
I do work on my own small engins. I do appreciate youir knowledge. Opening the jet is beyond my ability. You are very good. It does deserve an "ATTABOY"
It would make a perfect gold dredging pump. I wonder if there's a way to control the pump rate? Very nice find and repair. Thank You
Down in California this pump would serve a homeowner well in a wildfire situation with a pool and putting a sprinkler on the roof.
Very good teacher. Thank you very much. May God bless you and family.
It was left outside with the fuel cap off for sure. Thanks for giving it a new life.
When I check how a engine is running --I close my eyes . I can hear more of what the engine sounds like. I can actually hear not only how it sounds from idle. I can hear the exhaust and the inner workings of the engine.
Very knowledgeable, professional, mechanic. I think a joy to work with, you would learn a lot.
Excellent repair! Great video! Your carb knowledge is impressive, and your pump knowledge!
❤ Only you could fix that carb problem. I’m learning I have no skill just a want a be here. 😊😊
I'm impressed by your logical and systematic approach. You are a pro James!
It's amazing what some people will throw away. Now you have a sellable unit with very little investment. Good job.
You remind me of my high school Auto Mech. shop teacher. He was a very patient man and I learned a lot from him. (High school in 1961)
I have owned a couple of 2" trash pumps and never worried about the lean "no load" condition because the air/fuel fattened right up as the load is encountered and governor opens.
Great work,the pump looked almost new
Excellent pronunciation of “Hyundai”! - from a Korean. 👍🏻
That motor sounds great! Nice save
My motto, buy it once, care for it. Never buy again.
It is hard buying once when china, tiawan and other foreign ers sell us darn junk. Amen? Amen.
1000👍
Thanks, i learned a lot about carbs and symptoms of an engine running lean and how to sort it👍
As always, James, you saved something not running now into something that will be useful for someone in need.
Keep posting as your fixes are always very informative and helpful.
Michael
As usual, immaculate! 5 thou' was 'all' it took . . . Plus, plus! Well done!
We use here that kind of pumps (3") for the swim pool. They were running away on the concrete, so we use them now placed on an old car Tyre, what absorbs most vibrations.
You may find the rust is due to the fuel having high Ethenol content, its very hydroscopic as it sits it can absorb moisture hence the rust.
Unless in the US you can buy Ethenol free fuel quite cheaply. its very expensive here in the UK
Nice video though. thanks for posting.👍
sir condor I learned to you how to a basic repair of generator,water pump specially carburator and some parts of engine in your vlogs Im from the Philippines
I like this guy, he's like the David Attenborough of mechanics.
Is a “trash pump” a pump to move trash? I suspect you mean a pump that was placed in the trash, or, a “trashed pump” no longer operational. Thanks for the rescue.
Yet again a cracking tutorial very simple to follow👍
Good save brother! One man’s trash is another man’s treasure was never truer. Keep up the good work. Thanks for sharing.
Great Job Jim! Pump needs an INLET WATER FILTER to be a trash pump. The outlet needs a outlet nipple with several PVC 45 degree adapters as well as an exhaust hose to get that exhaust and water spray pointed AWAY from the engine and gas inlet!!! Tractor Supply or the like should have what you need. Having the exhaust so close and not directed away from the pump is a bad design which is just asking to repeat the conditions that sent it curbside in the first place.