@@randolagemrandolagem123the main difference is that the Axe has a small "Brace" animation before actually shoving. The Carbine shoves more instantaneously, making it easier to shove runners and lets you stun zombies more often helping your team kill them safely
@@Mordeczka1234 Basically Sapper's show is more aimed for countering Zappers since it insta counter when preparing show and standing in front of Zapper swing While Carbine shove is mostly about utility and supporting with stunning more minor enemies
whats actually really good about the shove is that if someone is getting grabbed by multiple shamblers, you can shove them all off saving your teammate and also your shot for bombers and what not
The sapper is also a shover, instead of building new barricades and meleeing the horde, u can just keep repair the same one while hordes are getting lured, then u can shove as they're inflicting damage to the barricades while simultaneously repairing it, sort of like making and infinite loop, this method or strat gives momentum for others to melee and exterminate the horde in a much versatile and quicker pace
This will prolly be like a aggresor or training class for endless with r The shove can leave a zombie open for an attack or give you the chance to bolt it out of there
As someone who overuses the shove for carbine, I’m just saying coordinating with a sapper is the most effective since you can shove for them and they can spam melee
Fun fact: unlike the axe shove, the carbine shove does 10 damage, which is enough to 3 shot runners and igniters , 6 shot shamblers, and 2 shot bombers!
The carbine is too light to be able to block a hit. It used to be able to shove even Zappers but it was removed because it wasn't supposed to be able to do that. Also, shove was given to Carbine to compliment it's lack of power so having it improved further wouldn't make it a sidegrade anymore
I wouldnt say its practically better. Pike is still the best pick for holding chokepoints, and the musket's precision, penetration , and bayonet allow a single infantryman to hold the line in a lot of situations.
@@jakepark5080 80% of the time you can see the runner approaching you, unless you have zero situational awareness, taking out your melee and swinging is basically instant, it also has more range (if you’re using sabre)
@@noonelaughed6598 yes, youre absolutely right but what if they're right behind you ? Taking out your melee take few milli second to prepare and slice that could lead to you getting tackled so shoving with carbine first is recommended and if youre officer or any other class than line infantry then that would be risky
So what I’m saying is, yes carbine’s shove is better in an emergency, or in a situation where you need to escape, but most of the time just using melee is better
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Fun fact: if you shove a zombie 3-4 (use carbine) it will die
No way that is you will use firearm in melee you can kill someone. I guess it's carbine's new bayonet lol.
It deal 10 dmgs when shove
@@FatPhobiacso delicious turkey but better
Delicious leg and carbine combined to make the shoving carbine
You can hit 3 zombies per shove, 10 dmg each.
BTW dmg is only applied on stun, not on hit.
Shoving and then shooting a shambler makes you feel so badass
anyone else would just think its stupid but okay
@@okaydoold i find it cool
@@boiledegg2254 your melee is better than the shove..
@@okaydoold idk man, shoving just feels satisfying, i usually mellee after shoving
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Feels great to see L4D2 fans here.
L4D2 player love this
As a l4d2 player I can confirm I love this
as a another l4d2 player i WILL love this
i haven't got L4D2 but I got L4D can I still love this?
Yes, also @@German_Officer2, do u use shove in l4d?
@@user-Retro_gaming If I still remember, there's no shovel in L4D
did bro just +PARRIED that shambler?
napoleonic feedbacker goes hard
SAPPER BUT CARBINE 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
the difference is sapper can shove zapper and get slowed and the carbine doesnt slow the player after shoving
@@randolagemrandolagem123the main difference is that the Axe has a small "Brace" animation before actually shoving. The Carbine shoves more instantaneously, making it easier to shove runners and lets you stun zombies more often helping your team kill them safely
@@Mordeczka1234 Basically Sapper's show is more aimed for countering Zappers since it insta counter when preparing show and standing in front of Zapper swing
While Carbine shove is mostly about utility and supporting with stunning more minor enemies
@@skell6134Both shoves also knock zombies off of allies so with the quick carbine shove you can save people from runners easier.
@@thunderspark1536 You can just saber swing really
Or shoot
I guest u can call it a "Shove-Class".
I'll see my self out
Nice Pun lil ni-
That sucks lil ni-
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@@quintaviousbarnaclejonesco2404😨
you can stunlock with this shove btw
when you shove a zombie, wait till the stun animation is done, then shove again
repeat for profit
The shove deals damage. So after 3 - 4 shoves it dies.
This is what I like to call: Shambler trolling
The dopamine rush once you stun a runner is truly wonderful
It’s great, hell yeah, but the devs should also buff/add new zombies so the game still has difficulty
me an ultrakill player:
+PARRY
+DISRESPECT
+QUICKDRAW
whats actually really good about the shove is that if someone is getting grabbed by multiple shamblers, you can shove them all off saving your teammate and also your shot for bombers and what not
WE BULLYING THE ZOMBIE AT BEREZINA WITH THIS ONE 🗣🔥🔥
The sapper is also a shover, instead of building new barricades and meleeing the horde, u can just keep repair the same one while hordes are getting lured, then u can shove as they're inflicting damage to the barricades while simultaneously repairing it, sort of like making and infinite loop, this method or strat gives momentum for others to melee and exterminate the horde in a much versatile and quicker pace
we already knew this
Woah
Sappers who can fucking 'Stop that blade!' a Zapper now:
Sapper get slowed when shoves and performs shove itself much slower than carbine does,but Sapper show works like parry against zappers,ye
@@skell6134 ok cool but can carbine build
@@BanHammerFromPhighting It doesnt need to
And buildings are at times really overrated
They added the l4d2 shove
shove and very fast change to axe while zombies got stunned
Ultrakill parry fr
Bro got the zombies looksmaxing 😢
Good job editing
Underrated, you have new sub
This will prolly be like a aggresor or training class for endless with r
The shove can leave a zombie open for an attack or give you the chance to bolt it out of there
I dont know if I should be proud but I managed to parry one runner whit the axe, before dying by that damn zapper.
As someone who overuses the shove for carbine, I’m just saying coordinating with a sapper is the most effective since you can shove for them and they can spam melee
Shove used to parry zapper's attacks, but they removed that :(
Fun fact: unlike the axe shove, the carbine shove does 10 damage, which is enough to 3 shot runners and igniters , 6 shot shamblers, and 2 shot bombers!
Damn we got no chill now
I use carbine mainly to help support barricades.
The only way I could see to improve this is if they made it if you hold the button you go into a stance like the zapper axe to block stuff
The carbine is too light to be able to block a hit. It used to be able to shove even Zappers but it was removed because it wasn't supposed to be able to do that. Also, shove was given to Carbine to compliment it's lack of power so having it improved further wouldn't make it a sidegrade anymore
Due to its size unlike the musket its possible and gladly they added that ability very useful
Bringing a gun to a fist fight just to end end up using it as a stun lock lmao
Amazing music choice by marzuku (goated)
sappers bein jealous with this one
POV: *micheal jackson if he was in the Napoleonic wars*
No effect againt zappers right?
The best part is it does 10 damage so you could actually kill a zombie by shoving it a couple of times
0:16 That runner did the bombastic side eye😏
“Die Die My darlin’!
Die! Da da!”
-L4D2 Ellis
They better buff the sapper axe after this
I wouldnt say its practically better. Pike is still the best pick for holding chokepoints, and the musket's precision, penetration , and bayonet allow a single infantryman to hold the line in a lot of situations.
Also carbine shove can kill if you spam the shove on a zombie and keep stunning thrm
thoughts on making the sapper armor not a consumable so we get sapper knights and make surgeons much more viable
It was changed to consumanle cuz people complained about it being too exspensive
look, even if it is 3k, i\d much rather buy it than have to rebuy it again and not even know if i get all of the value out of it.
Ah yes, the shover
Best weapon ever
Basically deepwoken rifle m1 cycle now
WE BRINGING THE DECAYING WINTER EITH THIS ONE 🗣️🔥
a shove :O
I NEED THE SONG NAME FR
Finally, a good Roblox left 4 dead game with original ideas
it isnt left 4 dead..
@@okaydoold well it took the idea
Bro rly said:I'm not gonna sugarcoat it
Light infantry gaming
How can you do that? What key did you press?
Uhhhh, can it shove zapper like sapper axe and pickaxe?
no
"KEEP MY TEAMMATES OUT OF YOUR F@%KING MOUTH!"
-people who use carbines now
Shove ability can kill zombies on 3 hit. Shamblers and runners both the same
it depends for shamblers, they have health scaling
how do i use the carabine shove on mobile idk if it works
diet priest pov
The crucifix does the same thing but in mass scale if you care about your comrades
Carbine is op now… glad
Left for dead the napoleonic :D
Basically postal dude class
Im a carbine user (mostly as a sapper)
Ultra kill leak
I’m not gonna sugar coat it
X + M1
Axe but gun mode
My dumbass achieving the same thing with the sapper axe (the carbine main can shoot the bomber coming our way now)
The true left 4 dead experience
This is too perfect for me because AM USING SABRE AND KING OF THE MELEE
JUST so cool that i quit G&B months ago
El verdadero : El culataso!😮
Dev made the carbine useful
SAPTHESUS approved
I do the same thing you did in that video
Name?
At this point g&bp just became l4d
and...... why cant you do that with musket?
Because the carbine is mych lighter than the musket prob
tbh i call this subclass light infantry or sharpshoter
carbineer
Partisia-
Grenadier would be fitting. Otherwise, cavarly (without a horse).
No way it's a decaying winter reference
This looks a little too op
who the heck would name a subclass "shover"
(i also could make an edit using only text where you said "plus its fun")
Bro is playing Left 4 Dead but napoleonic mod
Why TH-cam keeps recommending this game bruh
It's fun, try play it if you want to
you have been chosen to play
Carbine + Sabre + Grenade = The Grenadier
L4d players: First time?
call it the shovener
I need it I need it so bad but I got no money
Real.
And you don’t get slowed??? Its begging us to main carbine
So does it work on mobile
press bayonet button with carbine on mobile
Add Light Infantry
Ita shoving time
Gonna be playing left 4 dead in the 19th hundreds
Aggro infantry is real!!!!
I said the carbine should have the shove mechanic Dev might’ve seen my comment on the Discord
Sappers also can do it
You could also, y’know, use your melee
Pulling out your melee instead of shoving when a runner is infront of you is a death sentences
@@jakepark5080 80% of the time you can see the runner approaching you, unless you have zero situational awareness, taking out your melee and swinging is basically instant, it also has more range (if you’re using sabre)
@@noonelaughed6598 yes, youre absolutely right but what if they're right behind you ? Taking out your melee take few milli second to prepare and slice that could lead to you getting tackled so shoving with carbine first is recommended and if youre officer or any other class than line infantry then that would be risky
@@jakepark5080 in that one very specific scenario, carbine’s shove would be preferable, but 90% of the time just using your melee is better
So what I’m saying is, yes carbine’s shove is better in an emergency, or in a situation where you need to escape, but most of the time just using melee is better
Erm what the sigma??🤓
left 4 dead mechanic ngl
Did you just found out about shove
It's a recent update, plus an offensive stun class would be great
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