Can't believe he didn't mention OP weapons/Limiteds bring back the the OG Ak47, M4, Famas, Default Rifle 2013 - 2014 Basing R.I.P. The Browning Automatic Rifle back then was the peak gun of Era nowadays everyone has one. Chem was the OG most OP gun in Era for a few short days since it was not yet banned in Bases and Spar.
Bambzl mentions at 2:30 that a reason for the “bigger gangs” being “better”, is “better guns”. But I do agree that it deserves a highlight - thanks for bringing the conversation up! I personally think the OP Weapons / Limiteds are one of the, if not, THE primary thing that kills the fun for smaller (or newer) teams. Even if a gang has more skill on their side, a gang can stack the deck in their favor if they just have a couple limiteds, regardless of skill. Unfortunately, superior skill doesn’t matter when you’re going against a weapon that freezes you, allows the user to fly across the screen in a half a second, shoot faster projectiles over walls, heal the user per damage dealt, or just plain overpowered spams with high damage. And if we’re talking about a new player, forget it - with this mechanical advantage of better weapons, the added advantage of more experience, greater numbers, and/or the blackballing politics mentioned in the video - there’s very little chance in the basing experience being enjoyable for somebody new. Even if they DO grind their tails off for hours at an in-game job or drop a credit card - they still won’t be able to compete in this environment. Frankly, it’s a losing formula for all - the “winners” are rewarded with idling. I think the best solution would be gameplay modes, such as the one iMask is working on - where there is a free to play battle pass, where everybody starts with an Uzi, and levels up to earn more guns, skins, emotes, etc. (just recycle the assets already on the server) And then these items could only be used in the arena activities - have a series of random unlockables, ranging from common to rare to legendary, and have a loot box with % chance of getting one of them at milestone levels (and have them as purchasable). In this, they would be satisfying a couple things - the number problem (limit teams to 5v5 gameplay), limiteds, and people would have something to grind gameplay for. Plus, players would be getting rewarded for PLAYING the game, rather than working a tedious JOB - so it’s more engaging - and the game would still be monetized through randomized loot boxes (which doesn’t guarantee an OP gun (so it still comes with an element of chance). Lastly, this would lessen the learning curve - somebody could just start new and jump into the action, so they would be more likely to stay. If executed properly, I think this is THE way to gain more long term players, and bring more old players back.
I can relate to this so much!! That was literally me and my friends basing together to have fun with no politics involved back in 2013. You're making me want to bring back our old gang (Vaio)
Couldn't agree more. The biggest, most fun and main experience and feature of the game is gate keeped by boring players that can afford to spend mass amounts of time on the game. I also remember just rolling into lethal and taking it over for a while. Was fun and exciting. Now, like you said, enter a base now, 5 people afk, take the base, all of a sudden like half the server ganks you. Wish the era team would creatively change this..
@@Bambzl. Maybe tiers? Lower hour gangs compete for specific low tier bases for little to no rewards other than hours. So once the gangs become try hard, they are elevated to the higher tier bases? Just one quick idea. Would be cool to see some kind of organised brain storming event hosted by official era staff. This would also let us know that they genuinely want the best out of their game.
The only way to have fun is changing into noob outfit but recruiting your friends that also have OP items then you raid those shift bases. Go lethal. They ping their discord, you leave. And go to another base. Then all those shifters will be on edge. Then you can go back to the original base you started with. They ping discord again 😂 just annoying them is the way
The new weapons are so OP it’s not friendly to new players. Like that gun that locks on to you is just a free hit / kill or that sword that can dash then freezes you. Unless you spend 10 years grinding or no life era you can’t come close to even competing. When before If you had bar you were in the game ready to compete.
Hi nice vid, what could make basing more fun/dynamic would be craftable doors by levels (metal is default for all doors, gold level 1 and is harder to destroy while diamond level 2 slightly harder) upgradable by killing x ammount of people or a special pickaxe which you get after killing and you'd have to use the pickaxe as a drill (20 kills for gold and 50 for diamond for exemple). To activate traps you would have a button on each level and the traps placed around the base which turns on for 1min or so then detroys itself so you have something to do instead of afk to make ur base stronger/deadly and only a rank would have the permission to turn the trap on while anyone in the gang could craft the doors. The purpose would be to craft ur base stronger spending some time to build it and everything would be reset everyday. To make it fair for the other gang attacking they could get some buff dmg or speed boost to their guns after killing but only the gang with most kills (ex: 25 kills for speed boost during 1min to all members and 50 kills for 2-3 dmg buff with 15min cooldown and resets to the next gang reaching those kill numbers). Only the gang holding the base (not alliances) could also benfit from those buffs but in a more defensive way like more hp and speed boost as well (70 instead of 50) so its more challenging and fun also something like this would be nice to apply to Neo or a new base since all guns are more balanced. Everything said about numbers are roughly estimations, ty for reading.
And the funniest thing about this is you can go into a base today as a older player who played in the old days when bar was the best gun and kill almost the entire gang like your John Wick then they pull out the limiteds
Completely agree, and about your suggestion, ya the top gangs that already have the shifts they would use the hour requirement base to farm free hours for another tag so they can eventually shift that tag. sad days
All they gotta do is put a cap on the hours for gangs 100+ hours. Lets say 4 hour cap.. Or continue the fortress update that was supposed to happen years ago.. big base 4 flags
Well, for the most part, people are waiting for the summer store, I hope it is close, as well as the laser tag store or the new season of BR, also the VIP, those things could make people very happy and the EC store that was canceled or delayed, I don't know the truth.
I wanted to come back to graal to do basing, i asked one to recruit me and he asked "you got limiteds?" damn i hope bar is, not gonna mention the dude, i hope he is joking. other gangs aren't like that so it's still cool
The only thing that made me quit basing was the op melees. You literally enter a door and the next thing you see is a death screen. Basing was the only thing i did and i just left the game.
@@Bambzl. Yes, my life wish is fixing my zoom issues😔 after they did the new zoom update there was a’lot of bugs affected my game and all admin’s didn’t reply to me😭
imagine making base for people that have 30k and under kills and max hours u can get there is just 500 hours and u get idk gang hat that has limited pixels and no gif i think that would be fun
@Bambzl. I haven't critiqued graal too much because I'm scared of getting more black listed than I already am 😂. I dont want to post criticisms because Im afraid devs/admins will interpret it as negativity and then blacklist/ban me. But you are right, though, some people straight up insult admins, devs, and the game rather than providing constructive criticism. Im just scared my criticism would be interpreted as negativity ☹️
Exactly… like I can’t think of anything else that would help. The hour requirement bases on paper sounds fantastic but there will always be the gate keepers I guess
@@Bambzl. and cap the players hours like if u are 500 hours u cant enter 100 hours base for cap of 10k kills on your account that limitation would remove op ppl.
Its sad that graal's end game is gatekeeped by the top gangs, this literally doesnt happen in most mmos, also i disagree when you said that it isnt the player's fault, because tbh it is, its the players that created an environment where only the top gangs are able to do these type of content by threatening other gangs with war, or simply black listing players, this is to my knowledge the only game where this has happened, in other mmos such as albion end game content isnt gatekeeped by the top guilds/alliances infact having your guild in albion join the top alliances is encouraged, not only by youtubers but also the top guilds themselves, which is why recruitment before the blackzone resets is extremely active.
Gatekeeping is sad :( I guess maybe I gave the players too much credit? I wonder if there could have been another outcome that would’ve fixed All of this…
@@Bambzl. yes lol u have to help gangs to get “gang time” almost whole map giant alliance so no new players nor other people can finish their gangs at all u gotta suck a gang d just to get a base lol
Hi if u have a gang plz replay and say the gang name u have i want to join ur gang if u have 1 thanks if u replay and my player name is creator* gamer i will meby add u to my friends gang its called pkbros its fun to pk in the streets with ur gang members its so fun hope u have a good day
Can't believe he didn't mention OP weapons/Limiteds bring back the the OG Ak47, M4, Famas, Default Rifle 2013 - 2014 Basing R.I.P. The Browning Automatic Rifle back then was the peak gun of Era nowadays everyone has one. Chem was the OG most OP gun in Era for a few short days since it was not yet banned in Bases and Spar.
Definitely on me for not mentioning that! Was a point of emphasis I wanted to put out there for the video it just must’ve slipped passed
Bambzl mentions at 2:30 that a reason for the “bigger gangs” being “better”, is “better guns”.
But I do agree that it deserves a highlight - thanks for bringing the conversation up!
I personally think the OP Weapons / Limiteds are one of the, if not, THE primary thing that kills the fun for smaller (or newer) teams.
Even if a gang has more skill on their side, a gang can stack the deck in their favor if they just have a couple limiteds, regardless of skill.
Unfortunately, superior skill doesn’t matter when you’re going against a weapon that freezes you, allows the user to fly across the screen in a half a second, shoot faster projectiles over walls, heal the user per damage dealt, or just plain overpowered spams with high damage.
And if we’re talking about a new player, forget it - with this mechanical advantage of better weapons, the added advantage of more experience, greater numbers, and/or the blackballing politics mentioned in the video - there’s very little chance in the basing experience being enjoyable for somebody new.
Even if they DO grind their tails off for hours at an in-game job or drop a credit card - they still won’t be able to compete in this environment.
Frankly, it’s a losing formula for all - the “winners” are rewarded with idling.
I think the best solution would be gameplay modes, such as the one iMask is working on - where there is a free to play battle pass, where everybody starts with an Uzi, and levels up to earn more guns, skins, emotes, etc. (just recycle the assets already on the server)
And then these items could only be used in the arena activities - have a series of random unlockables, ranging from common to rare to legendary, and have a loot box with % chance of getting one of them at milestone levels (and have them as purchasable).
In this, they would be satisfying a couple things - the number problem (limit teams to 5v5 gameplay), limiteds, and people would have something to grind gameplay for.
Plus, players would be getting rewarded for PLAYING the game, rather than working a tedious JOB - so it’s more engaging - and the game would still be monetized through randomized loot boxes (which doesn’t guarantee an OP gun (so it still comes with an element of chance).
Lastly, this would lessen the learning curve - somebody could just start new and jump into the action, so they would be more likely to stay.
If executed properly, I think this is THE way to gain more long term players, and bring more old players back.
@@RaggaMeph W comment as usual! I agree with you though this could be so useful for players!
Dude remember when having a chem user in your basing gang felt like you gang could conquer any base
@@TkAiIdeasall I remember is when I saw someone with a chem gun I was genuinely scared 😂
I can relate to this so much!! That was literally me and my friends basing together to have fun with no politics involved back in 2013. You're making me want to bring back our old gang (Vaio)
2013!! Let’s go! You definitely should ;)
Couldn't agree more. The biggest, most fun and main experience and feature of the game is gate keeped by boring players that can afford to spend mass amounts of time on the game. I also remember just rolling into lethal and taking it over for a while. Was fun and exciting. Now, like you said, enter a base now, 5 people afk, take the base, all of a sudden like half the server ganks you. Wish the era team would creatively change this..
the OG lethal days went ham! How do you personally think era could creatively change that dynamic? :)
@@Bambzl. Maybe tiers? Lower hour gangs compete for specific low tier bases for little to no rewards other than hours. So once the gangs become try hard, they are elevated to the higher tier bases? Just one quick idea. Would be cool to see some kind of organised brain storming event hosted by official era staff. This would also let us know that they genuinely want the best out of their game.
I wouldn’t say it’s on the game to fix rather it’s on the players, just more people need to create more gangs that aren’t allied to other ones
I feel with a larger player count there will be less of a oligopoly in forting
The only way to have fun is changing into noob outfit but recruiting your friends that also have OP items then you raid those shift bases. Go lethal. They ping their discord, you leave. And go to another base. Then all those shifters will be on edge. Then you can go back to the original base you started with. They ping discord again 😂 just annoying them is the way
Same I logged back on with a few of my old friends and the 4 of us took a base for about 3 minutes and they filled an entire tag instantly
the most annoying thing ever. as soon as you get a notification or call you get warped all over the map. thats why i dont base anymore.
I HATE THIS! So annoying while I’m bases
@@Bambzl. weird thing, only ios users get warped. android users dont.
The new weapons are so OP it’s not friendly to new players. Like that gun that locks on to you is just a free hit / kill or that sword that can dash then freezes you. Unless you spend 10 years grinding or no life era you can’t come close to even competing. When before If you had bar you were in the game ready to compete.
I think when bar was the high standard of weapons, the gameplay was at an all time peak
I miss old basing :( Basing system needs to be overhauled.
30 hrs in a single day! say less🤣🤣
Hi nice vid, what could make basing more fun/dynamic would be craftable doors by levels (metal is default for all doors, gold level 1 and is harder to destroy while diamond level 2 slightly harder) upgradable by killing x ammount of people or a special pickaxe which you get after killing and you'd have to use the pickaxe as a drill (20 kills for gold and 50 for diamond for exemple).
To activate traps you would have a button on each level and the traps placed around the base which turns on for 1min or so then detroys itself so you have something to do instead of afk to make ur base stronger/deadly and only a rank would have the permission to turn the trap on while anyone in the gang could craft the doors. The purpose would be to craft ur base stronger spending some time to build it and everything would be reset everyday.
To make it fair for the other gang attacking they could get some buff dmg or speed boost to their guns after killing but only the gang with most kills (ex: 25 kills for speed boost during 1min to all members and 50 kills for 2-3 dmg buff with 15min cooldown and resets to the next gang reaching those kill numbers). Only the gang holding the base (not alliances) could also benfit from those buffs but in a more defensive way like more hp and speed boost as well (70 instead of 50) so its more challenging and fun also something like this would be nice to apply to Neo or a new base since all guns are more balanced. Everything said about numbers are roughly estimations, ty for reading.
Holy this idea is crazy! That could make basing so much more entertaining!! Thank you for commenting this:)
And the funniest thing about this is you can go into a base today as a older player who played in the old days when bar was the best gun and kill almost the entire gang like your John Wick then they pull out the limiteds
Completely agree, and about your suggestion, ya the top gangs that already have the shifts they would use the hour requirement base to farm free hours for another tag so they can eventually shift that tag. sad days
no longer competitive,,,,, unless there's a war
Hmm I wonder if there is anything else that could work 🤔
All they gotta do is put a cap on the hours for gangs 100+ hours. Lets say 4 hour cap..
Or continue the fortress update that was supposed to happen years ago.. big base 4 flags
W video. i have been thinking of this since 2018. its the reason i stopped playing as much and stopped basing
It’s sad that the evolution of the basing scene has become :(
fr they should make a new base like abandoned store or a old game store fr or a abandoned hotel as a base
Basing in Graal was fun when there wasn't alliances. Rip 2014
agreed!!!! Basing made the game so much fun back then
Honestly couldn't agree more, it's sad to see how it has become but I guess that's just how things are
Sad days for the homies 😔
Well, for the most part, people are waiting for the summer store, I hope it is close, as well as the laser tag store or the new season of BR, also the VIP, those things could make people very happy and the EC store that was canceled or delayed, I don't know the truth.
I can’t wait for all of these things! I hope they are released soon!
I wanted to come back to graal to do basing, i asked one to recruit me and he asked "you got limiteds?" damn i hope bar is, not gonna mention the dude, i hope he is joking.
other gangs aren't like that so it's still cool
“You got limiteds” 💀 that’s tough ngl
Spittin facts, should make a vid on what to do to fix it
Gotchu!;)
The only thing that made me quit basing was the op melees. You literally enter a door and the next thing you see is a death screen. Basing was the only thing i did and i just left the game.
All the hype to base and then BOOM ice mage takes you out at the door… sad days for the homies
All what you said is exactly right!
I’m glad you agree!! Is there anything you’d fix??
@@Bambzl. Yes, my life wish is fixing my zoom issues😔 after they did the new zoom update there was a’lot of bugs affected my game and all admin’s didn’t reply to me😭
Wars we’re also fun without those event and auction items. The stupid bunny gun, rng, and stupid melees
Yeah dude it’s rough can’t even walk into bases anymore
imagine making base for people that have 30k and under kills and max hours u can get there is just 500 hours and u get idk gang hat that has limited pixels and no gif i think that would be fun
Basing is cool at box especially when it's ful of ppl :)
Yeah Box is actually such a good base
Im surprised you can critique graal without getting in trouble with the higher ups. Are you no longer partnered with them?
There’s no issues!:) I’m allowed to speak my mind haha. Plus I think there is a difference between critiquing and negativity ya know?
@Bambzl. Interesting 🤔
@@Goobear- Wydm?
@Bambzl. I haven't critiqued graal too much because I'm scared of getting more black listed than I already am 😂. I dont want to post criticisms because Im afraid devs/admins will interpret it as negativity and then blacklist/ban me. But you are right, though, some people straight up insult admins, devs, and the game rather than providing constructive criticism. Im just scared my criticism would be interpreted as negativity ☹️
Essentially being the 2k farming base lol
I remember when war happen everyday nonstop if only it a way to bring it back
Bring it back:(
Imagine they lowered the basing reward requirements and made a daily cap on the amount of hours you can accrue.
I wonder how this could effect the basing scene!?! 🤔
@@Bambzl. well gatekeeping certainly wouldnt be a thing since shifts would be difficult to control
It aint gonna change unless admins create a base for 1k/500/100hrs or less only gangs
Exactly… like I can’t think of anything else that would help. The hour requirement bases on paper sounds fantastic but there will always be the gate keepers I guess
@@Bambzl. mabye kills cap like only people under 30k kills can enter this base ? hmm
@@Bambzl. and cap the players hours like if u are 500 hours u cant enter 100 hours base for cap of 10k kills on your account that limitation would remove op ppl.
@@Bambzl.or mabye just ban on 100h bases guns better than like m4
But then again a base like that could just get “owned” and farm 100/500/1000 hr tags by one gang
why not give in base the limit of max kills that person has ? like 30k kills max if u got under 30k u can enter
that would stop a lot of op accounts and what alt accs would not be problem bcs its just same people but weaker accs
Its sad that graal's end game is gatekeeped by the top gangs, this literally doesnt happen in most mmos, also i disagree when you said that it isnt the player's fault, because tbh it is, its the players that created an environment where only the top gangs are able to do these type of content by threatening other gangs with war, or simply black listing players, this is to my knowledge the only game where this has happened, in other mmos such as albion end game content isnt gatekeeped by the top guilds/alliances infact having your guild in albion join the top alliances is encouraged, not only by youtubers but also the top guilds themselves, which is why recruitment before the blackzone resets is extremely active.
Gatekeeping is sad :( I guess maybe I gave the players too much credit? I wonder if there could have been another outcome that would’ve fixed All of this…
Also I’ve heard good things from Albion I’ll have to check it!
Letsssss gooo thx for the shout out
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Nah thats crazy getting pressed cuz u enter a base lol
I’m not even kidding bro it’s crazy! Literally threats 😂
Tbh everyone in the comment section has some fire ideas but y’all know they never listen to us
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Real 😂
Struggle be real
Agree
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Pm for rec! M4 or better!
Lmao good ol days
Back during simpler times… that was peoples biggest worries… having an M4 😂
u at my tag :0000 lmaoaoa
😂 bro graal olwest Same state but worst
Really??
@@Bambzl. yes lol u have to help gangs to get “gang time” almost whole map giant alliance so no new players nor other people can finish their gangs at all u gotta suck a gang d just to get a base lol
Instead of complaining get good bruh
Valid
Hi if u have a gang plz replay and say the gang name u have i want to join ur gang if u have 1 thanks if u replay and my player name is creator* gamer i will meby add u to my friends gang its called pkbros its fun to pk in the streets with ur gang members its so fun hope u have a good day