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Those poses are just so relaxed. I wonder if he just had some friends pose while he grabbed the poses

You said it right, "...it has to do with the particular taste and sensibilities of those artists themselves!" the two different approaches in laying out comic art pages...years ago, I did something similar to Campbell's way but not as detailed I would then redraw the same on an actual Bristol board but after sometime, I noticed - as you mentioned - that my spontaneity was not there and I found the actual art was not as fluid, as natural as it had been on the sheet of paper that I had originally sketched out the page. Now, I go straight to the Bristol board - I was watching a Twitch session where Jim Lee was drawing a Superman page or cover or something....he was explaining his thought process and he would use the same stick figures to quickly sketch out the characters, buildings but would erase and redraw several times before he decided to flesh out the character and even then, he would erase some portion of the drawing and change it. It does make sense to do the entire process on the original art board than a sheet of paper...saves time, as you mentioned, and it just keeps it much more fluid. I do my writing and everything from start to finish - I do hire out colorists and professional comics inkers to ink some of my covers and will do more so in the future - and because I do everything (slow process, especially, with having to care for my little toddler every day of the week excerpt on Sundays:-) ) it does take me longer but I am enjoying it. You can check out my process photos and videos on IG AGL COMICS and definitely checkout my Kickstarter that will be dropping on April 15, 2025. I hope to not disappoint comics fans of the Bronze Age, Marvel Comics styles or at least that is my intent. Excellent video BTW. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your Followers. AGL

would love to see some christmas themed ones :)

7:51 when I brainstorm or try to figure out the composition (especially when it's in a difficult perspective) I find it helps me to draw small so that I won't get stuck obsessing over irrelevant details or get obsessed with drawing instead of actually figuring out the composition / perspective. I basically draw thumbnails and then scale them up when I find a composition I like and then draw a detailed picture on top of that.

I thought no one knew this song. Amazing art too!

Its so tough though when you're tracing over the smaller roughs blown up, you can lose the energy, but I agree it seems to be better this way than enlarging it by eye, but sometimes you really nail it in the rough, and it would be nice just to use that actual line drawing in the finished work just touched up with say the computer.

Campbell's approach translates really well to drawing digitally

Pretty sweet.

Great video tom!! Super insightful. I'd love to see more of your own processes and compositions!

These books were great. I have the Avengers Rough Cut…George Perez’s pencils were gorgeous.

Why dont you see videos of comic artist doing pages start to finish!?!? What secrets are being kept from us!?!? 🤔

Is this channel mostly for him to talk about rare art books, or do we also see original content and advice? No judgment, just wondering

I have that book - its fantastic! Just wish they had printed it larger.

Great video.and yeah, after a thirty-five break, starting to read comics again, I agree that the books are better than the movies by MILES.

Yeah I'd like to go through the contents of that book. Gil Kane wouldn't happen to be in there would he? Gil Kane had the best process of all yet he didn't really talk about it. Adam Kubert seems to have combined Gil Kane and Joe Kubert's processes. He probably knew Kane pretty well.

Your channel is a tresure trove ..a minefield of real usable information for aspiring comic artists ..many thannks to you !!

There are many ways to go about the PROCESS. However hopefully we all end up making the same final output or can. I say this because there are so many decisions to make in creating a page. It would be nice if there were rules by which to come to better decisions. What really slows you down is not being able to make a decision. If neither way is wrong have you ever struggled to make a decision simply because it didn't matter what decision you made?

OMG.. I have this one! Nice to see it behind the curtains.

Yet another great video bro, keep em coming! 🎉

in all honesty, Campbell's approach is the best approach, as it solves ALOT of storytelling problems from early on. You got to be VERY experienced to go the Jim Lee way, and he was also potentially repeating storytelling devices at that point. Bonus: Campbell's approach also accounts for how each page is read as you open the book, which can further open the possibilities in how you control the space of the "double-page-spread" to tell the story.

I always enjoy j .scot cambell. But isn't there a lot goin on in the page to comprehend whats going on?

That book looks cool AF. Thanks for the vid. Pretty good 👍

Those pencils are clean! No shade to the team that put this comic out, but I would read a comic with just those pencils. They’re so good! Thank you for the post and inspiration . Peace.

What I am doing, currently, is drawing 2 1/2 x roughly 4 inch thumbnails of my pages. My problem is, despite not trying to capture character likeness, I tend to get sucked in and overly detail the thumbnails 😅 When I have s thumbnail I'm happy with, I scan it and resize it, print then light box it onto the page. Interesting to see that book. Thank you for sharing 🤘 Now, I have to break the pencil to ink Barrier. Wish I had a fraction of Alfredo Alcala's inking skill... need to find a method that works for me AND the story.

As soon as I saw the thumbnail of Jim Lees art I clicked but was the other page you showed J Scott Campbell?

Thank you for the information.

yes this camera moving always non stop even when speak now make me feel sick , agree whit you its too much that why i love more the way how English movies series make it fixe camera best from Switzerlan comics guy too ;)

I forgot to drop a comment. I genuinely appreciate videos that are pretty informative on the comic making process. With a little bit of 90s nostalgia, gotta appreciate the most visually expressive decade.

Yeah, please do th Avengers video, that would be awesome

New subscriber here! Nice walkthrough - like you I'm a process geek- Do you know what typo of pencil he used - the variation in tone is incredible!! Him content with just the pencilling to follow the story.. Lol Btw is that your music that's rockin in the background??! - I noticed the guitar...lol

I am trying out this tracing paper method uou use Tom. But my sketch got smudged a little bit. I was wondeting how uou avoid that from happening. Do you use a harder graphite like a 2h?

As a comic artist I’m always learning and I love the “raw” editions of books. Not to family with Ron’s work but it looks like he may have been an inspiration or influence to Jim Lee and his style. There are some similarities with structure and layouts. I think I’m a fan of Ron’s now thank you.

Such great stuff! I first learned of and fell in Love with Ron Garney's amazing art work when he restarted Hulk's comic book run back in '99, written by my favorite comic artist and writer, John Byrne! It's such a great series. I'd LOVE to find a Rough Cut version of that series, especially the first issue.

Great video, Thomas...just 'great'! I loved your insightful narration on this 'time-honored' comic process.

good video. interesting that he started out with an interest in sculpture

Your channel is a treasure. Really great content 👍

As a kid I very liked illustrations in books series Battletech. It was just simple black and white line drawings, almost like this sketches in the comix.

Thomas thanks for putting this up. I've always had an appreciation for comics and cartooning, and have been sketchbooking on and off for some years. The more I get into comics, the more I really appreciate how massive this container is. Anything I would want to draw, any story I would want to tell, can fit into this apparently unlimited universe. I just read a beautiful wordless graphic novel called "Flood", by Eric Drooker, great stuff. The casual observer and art snobs do not get how precise, how detailed and how accurate these works can be, and not only that, but you can dial it up or back to taste. This crew highlighted here are masters of anatomy, perspective, composition and proportion, and the panels are really beautiful, well-crafted and interesting. On the other hand, some of the most successful cartoons like Peanuts, Garfield, B.C., are not complex and would not require decades of training to render....not to be obvious. Longer story short, it's really grabbed me by the face as an approach to drawing, I'm pretty sure I'm in.

Great Insight Thomas!

There's an FF issue done by Alan Davis - its ptetty awesome. I also have the Thor issue which is good and the Avengers and Cap A issue. Cool video!

I’m all on my lonesome tonight, so, of course I’m watching process videos :D…this is a great one!

People with hand tattoos should make videos that involve focusing on their hands because that tattoos are a constant visual distraction.

Love your take on this cover!

I have one of these but with John Romita Jr. It was an issue of Thor.

Все ОСНОВЫ создания комиксов ЗДЕСЬ! 00:01 Введение • Приветствие и представление автора, Томаса Пая, художника комиксов и иллюстратора. • Обзор работ Рона Гэри, сравнение его карандашных рисунков с печатными комиксами. • Использование редкого комикса из детской коллекции автора. 00:33 Черновые версии комиксов • Рон Гэри рисовал карандашом "Капитан Америка: Страж свободы" в конце 1990-х. • Черновые версии комиксов были редкостью и ценным ресурсом для начинающих художников. • Сравнение карандашных версий с печатными комиксами. 01:03 Личное значение черновых версий • Черновые версии позволяли наблюдать процесс создания комиксов. • Автор вспоминает, как часто просматривал эти комиксы в детстве. • Черновые версии были редкостью и не переиздавались. 02:30 Обзор комикса "Капитан Америка: Страж свободы" • Автор показывает печатный выпуск комикса 1998 года. • Комикс сохранился в плохом состоянии, но это была черновая версия. • Сравнение карандашной версии с печатной. 03:20 Важность карандашных версий • Карандашные версии показывают, как художник работает над страницей. • Автор восхищается профессионализмом Рона Гэри. • Карандашные версии содержат все необходимые детали для финальной версии. 05:02 Сотрудничество с Дампеноаном • Рон Гэри и Марк Уэйд сотрудничали над комиксом. • Дампеноан, известный художник, также участвовал в создании комикса. • Карандашная версия показывает, как художник предлагает расположение заголовков. 07:32 Детали и мастерство • Автор восхищается деталями фона и прорисовкой в карандашных версиях. • Карандашные версии демонстрируют мастерство художника. • Автор предпочитает карандашные версии, но признает их важность. 09:30 Профессионализм Рона Гэри • Рон Гэри - профессионал в рассказывании историй и рисовании комиксов. • Он является учеником великих авторов оригинальных комиксов Marvel. • Карандашные и печатные версии демонстрируют его мастерство. 11:02 Заключение • Автор восхищается мастерством Рона Гэри и его умением рассказывать истории. • Карандашные версии передают атмосферу удовольствия от процесса создания. • Автор ценит старые работы больше, когда смотрит на них зрелым взглядом. 12:07 Воспоминания о черновом комиксе • В детстве автор делал ксерокопии страниц комикса и закрашивал их чернилами. • Процесс был сложным, так как ксерокопии были темнее оригинала. • Автор хотел добиться четких линий, как у Дэна Пиноана. 13:02 Сложность нанесения чернил • Нанесение чернил оказалось сложнее, чем ожидалось. • Автор осознал, что это требует больше усилий, чем просто обводка. 13:16 Визуальное повествование • Автор предпочитает комиксы фильмам о супергероях. • Карандашные рисунки позволяют создавать разнообразные оттенки серого и тонкие линии. • Заполнение чернилами упрощает и делает рисунки понятнее. 14:45 Влияние Джека Кирби • Некоторые элементы рисунка напоминают работы Джека Кирби. • Автор вспоминает, как в детстве пытался разрисовать чернилами одну из страниц. • Взрыв на странице создает впечатляющий эффект. 15:48 Мастер-класс по рисованию комиксов • Страница напоминает мастер-класс по рисованию комиксов от Marvel. • Работа с перспективой и движением камеры впечатляет. • Автор хочет отсканировать и распечатать страницы для практики. 17:23 Легкость и мастерство • Художник создает впечатление легкости и без усилий. • Повествование выглядит живым и понятным. • Автор считает это признаком великого художника. 18:54 Вдохновение для начинающих • Просмотр таких материалов полезен для начинающих художников. • Можно почерпнуть идеи и вдохновение для верстки страниц. • Важно помнить, что можно создавать потрясающие истории без сложных инструментов. 21:14 Метод Marvel • В конце выпуска есть текст, написанный по методу Marvel. • Метод Marvel фокусируется на визуальном повествовании. • Автор планирует сравнить письменную версию с проиллюстрированной. 23:17 Заключение • Автор благодарит за просмотр и надеется, что видео было полезным. • Призывает подписаться на канал для большего количества подобных видео. • Обещает рассмотреть другие черновое издания комиксов.

Really enjoyed your candor -- thanks for sharing your process!

Awesome, nothing like seeing pencils. Please do the George Perez pencils. Thank you !

I love process and pencil editions. I have a few of the unwrapped and they're a treasure trove of insights. I hope they do a lot more of these pencil only versions.

Thank you from France. I discover you're channel this past week. Many loud informations and passion!

What kind of pen are you inking with? I like the way it varies the lines, it doesnt look like a nib or brush though