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@@secondbestjojo1300 totally fair point - I appreciate you giving your opinion with actual examples to support it!

​@@hobbricks_lego_man thanks I'm actually kinda surprised you understood what I as saying because I just noticed I miss typed alot of stuff so better fix that before I look like an idiot anyways I definitely agree with most of your points and I do think the movie's actually do improve on the book in some ways like the dwarves. They have so much more personality in the movies I recently heard an audiobook of the book and I don't think bofur even had 2 lines but in the movies he's actually my favorite dwarf and I feel like the one that's nicest to bilbo besides Balin.

@@mattiasandersson8693 I’m pretty sure the reason given for the usage of the Ringwraith theme in the Appendices is that they wanted something dark which fit the tone of the scene. I conceded in the video that it is an odd music choice, but my issue is that Cosmonaut uses that as a broad criticism of the score as a whole being unoriginal, which simply isn’t true. Me bringing up Gollum’s theme and the Rivendell theme are examples of Howard Shore reincorporating relevant leitmotifs. I also bring up Smaug’s theme and a few others to disprove his point about how the score exclusively reuses themes from the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

Looking forward to your review my friend!

Thanks Jack! Always a pleasure to read your thoughts.

Agreed, the dwarf storyline was the highlight of the season for me. Although I think the conclusion to it was pretty clunky, it was the only plot I felt consistently invested in. I liked the musical element that Tom brought to the story, but his presence did just feel like another attempt at nostalgia bait due to how minimal a role he plays in the story. I don't know how else they could have written him though, since he is just supposed to be a neutral force so it wouldn't make sense for him to get actively involved in the conflict aside from setting Gandalf on his path.

You actually went back to find the exact time code 😂

I hear skip a beat but it slightly sounds like ski ba di

It's only been a year, but it feels longer. So glad they finally released it on PS4 so people like us can play it!

A truly tragic ending.

Thanks for giving your opinion! I'll agree that the Sauron and Adar plotlines had some strong moments, episode 6 was probably my favourite of the season for that reason, since it mostly focuses on them. I just wish everything was held together with better writing, as is it feels like a massive waste.

@@hobbricks_lego_man Another bigger question is this. Are they trying to tie this into the Peter Jackson Middle Earth movies? Because that Balrog is identical to one that fights Grand Elf ( oh I'm sorry Gandalf) in Fellowship. Also when the queen gives Elendil the sword Narsil, that's the same one seen in the original trilogy. So are they trying to force this to be a prequel to those six movies or just inconsequential easter eggs?

@@Story2ScreenMovieReviewPodcast It's difficult to tell tbh, I don't think it's meant to be a prequel but they are relying heavily on iconography from Peter Jackson's films. Even reusing lines of dialogue like: "always follow your nose" or "many who live deserve death, and some that die deserve life." That seems like a major link to the LOTR trilogy, but they probably are just inconsequential easter eggs.

Indeed he is, and he's a merry fellow.

If you want to be so disappointed, then watch it😁👍

@@Mr.Feanor I did lol. And even if I hadn't watched the finale episode, I think watching 7 episodes of an 8 episode season of television is a good metric to judge what the quality of the last episode will be. Unless episode 8 was somehow the greatest piece of television to ever grace the screen, I would have no reason to believe it was good based on the precedent set by the rest of the season. (now you could be saying not to watch the finale because I'll be disappointed, in which case I wasted my time refuting an argument that was only meant as a joke 😂)

@@hobbricks_lego_man 😁😁🙌 My comment was to the guy who didn't watch it, who was surprised that Tom is in the show😁

@@Mr.Feanor Ah, I wasn't sure if it was a reply to my reply or to his comment 😂

Oh really, how's it going for you?

It will forever remain one of the mysteries of all time.

Thanks man, I can't wait for my Christday

@@diamondbrixproductions lol, gotta love Ninjago being at the bottom of the

@@hobbricks_lego_man notice how its lower than M*rmaduke lol

That's awesome, thanks for letting me know. I had no idea that she worked on the Hobbit films!

Agreed, Thrawn in canon almost always comes up with realistically smart counters to the heroes (this is even applicable to the Rebels TV show to some extent). In legends however, it feels like there is a lot of telling and little showing of his strategic abilities. We'll be told he's this massive threat to be feared, he can "tear down the republic from the inside out" but nothing we are shown ever really corroborates that narrative.

Or if you put it on the TV while sitting in another room looking the other way with headphones on - that’s one of the only things I can think would lead to that interpretation of the show.

One of the most underrated AND understated themes in Star Wars. Simplistic, yet incredibly powerful.

@@milenamesa2045 I had no idea that subtitles weren’t working for this video! I’ll see what I can do to fix that for you.

@@hobbricks_lego_man YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH, I really appreciate your effort <3

@@milenamesa2045 Of course! I've tried changing the subtitles to Spanish in TH-cam studio - let me know if that changes anything for you. If not, I'm not sure what to do. It's not common for TH-cam to automatically switch off closed captions for my videos, so I might need to do a bit more in-depth sleuthing work.

​@@hobbricks_lego_manUnfortunately the video doesn't let me have subtitles., So I appreciate you taking the time and space to try to change it. thank you very much

Apologies for the late response my friend! I think you're safe to jump back to the first Thrawn book after Chaos Rising, and then Alliances. I read Chaos Rising first and then the rest of the first trilogy (yet again that was because Greater Good and Lesser Evil weren't published at that time). It's really up to you, if you want to read them chronologically there's no harm in that, I just created this video to provide a fun and different order for people to experience the story. As far as legends is concerned, Heir to the Empire is the main one obviously, but I'd also recommend the Hand of Thrawn duology: Specter of the Past and Vision of the Future. Funnily enough Thrawn isn't actually in them, but the story is actually pretty cool (until the ending which kinda drops the ball IMO). I've also heard about Outbound Flight and Survivor's Quest being semi-Thrawn related - the former being a prequel to Heir to the Empire and the latter being a sequel to Hand of Thrawn - almost like the Ascendancy equivalent for the legends Thrawn character. There's honestly so much Star Wars reading material out there, I feel like I've barely scratched the surface lol. Anyway, sorry for the long-winded comment - hope this was informative!

That's a really good point. It's for the reasons you described that I far prefer the new canon Thrawn books, because he acts more like a real character. His intelligence in that series feels like reasonable anticipatory action against his opponents rather than an almost god-like ability to predict the future.

Now that you mention it, I can't unsee it either 😂

No kidding lol.

Lol, that’s a bit weird… cuz I wasn’t 😂

@@hobbricks_lego_maneither I was still tired or I was a glitch😭

@@NotGalaxsu Oh wait, I think it might be because the video went up as a premiere so it looked like I was going live lol.

@@hobbricks_lego_man figured

Thanks man, they’re all pretty cool sets!

No worries! Glad you were able to join.

Thanks man, never had the OG Rex, so he's pretty cool to have!

Thanks my friend! Always appreciate your positive comments and hearing your opinions on the show.

​​​@@hobbricks_lego_man thanks ❤ oh and the clone rebellion thingy. Echo literally called it a 'small network of clones' most of them are within imperial ranks and their main goal during the time is to help their brothers who want to run away or in trouble because of the Empire not to defeat the empire. (They are not the Partisans, good lord💀) And I don't think Rex being there in the finale will be a ... Clone rebellion? It's like 3 of them. (I don't know if I'm wrong or not but he seems more respectful in his Ahsoka video. It's a legit criticism which you can agree or disagree with. But when it comes to TBB he seems biased)

@@silentvoice2776 Oh he's definitely biased against Bad Batch - in most videos he's far more charitable than he is in this one because he doesn't elaborate on anything he's saying here lol. And you're so right, most of Rex's clone network got wiped out halfway through the season, so if they called him in it would literally just be him, Gregor, and Howzer? Wow, what a huge amount of backup 😂

​@@hobbricks_lego_man (My reply glitched 😭) EVEN IF they come flying in I'm sure they'll be shot down by a laser cannon to keep the stakes high! (Like "We're stuck here?" scene in Rogue one) Or Rex can summons a Rebellion fleet?? 😂 That too! And idk he doesn't use words like "nothingness, trash, stale, etc" in his Ahsoka video. He seems less aggressive. Myself, I enjoy Ahsoka because of the Kiners. Their score is the only reason I sit through the show. It's too good they can't keep doing this to me. Like you, this show left us pondering about the themes, subtexts and stuff! (That's the fun part. I enjoy discussing it with my friends) I've never felt this enthusiastic about analysing something since Arcane and I'm not saying that Sheev should like the show cuz it's not everyone's cup of tea and I respect that but BRO EASY. I love your take on Hunter and Crosshair. Especially Hunter! His subtle character development in my opinion did harm the audience because you have to think about it (I find it entertaining) Oh by the way I don't know if you are on Twitter or not and I'm not sure if you've seen the kiners tweet about 'I am ready'. Anyway I'll leave it here just in case 😊 x.com/KinerMusic/status/1793016825690968174?t=h4TNq6ffzk0SJWMgMykFMA&s=19

@@silentvoice2776 Totally agree with you, the score was the only thing about Ahsoka that I even remotely liked lol - and this show is by far the most fun I've had analyzing media in a while as well. I usually like Sheev's videos because they are objectively in-depth, applying reasonable logic and provably valid criticisms to the media in question (his Ahsoka or Clone Wars videos being great examples of this). This video just feels weird because he immediately admits to having little passion for the show and acts like making this video was an obligation he had, when it's like - no? You could've chosen not to make a video on the show you dislike, but instead you chose to make a 13 minute video claiming that you're correct and acting as if you are intellectually superior to the audience while failing to validate any of your points. As I said in the video - not a great look for the objectivity guy. P.S. I don't have Twitter and had not idea about the Kiner's post - so thanks for sharing that with me!

I appreciate your thoughtful and detailed comment! I agree that many people had false expectations of what this show was going to be, just because it has the same art-style and some characters carrying over from the Clone Wars didn't mean it would be the exact same story. I accepted from the beginning that it was going to be a spiritual continuation of the Clone Wars just from the POV of one particular group of characters, and I think I had a different experience with the show as a result of that. On a thematic level I think it did a great job of carrying on with the idea of free-will and the Clones' fight for individuality. Tbh I hadn't thought that much about how Crosshair's Clone Wars characterization may or may not align with how he's presented in the Bad Batch, since I don't have a particularly vivid memory of that arc from season 7. There's no denying that he was the most cold and actively antagonistic of the Bad Batchers (which is most likely why the writers of BB chose for him to be the one who turns on the squad). They clearly didn't ignore every aspect of his characterization either, as many have pointed out, his line: "I would've left him for dead too. Besides, he's just another reg," comes full circle when he chooses to try and save Mayday in season 2. Something else important to note that I forgot to mention in the video, is the reason Crosshair's actions in the Bad Batch seem more severe than in Clone Wars is because in the war they were mostly fighting droids, but under the thumb of the Empire they are being ordered to kill living beings. The rest of the squad immediately recognize this to be morally wrong when they are sent to execute a camp of innocent civilians, but Crosshair tells them to "finish the mission." The conflict between Crosshair and the Batch didn't get heated until it crossed a moral line that he simply didn't draw - it's arguable that due to his cold and severely unyielding personality, he didn't see a difference between sniping pieces of metal and real breathing people, most likely due to the fact that he was engineered not to make that distinction. When we reframe his character that way, the conflict between Crosshair and the squad wasn't so much to do with them suddenly not "following orders" and instead that they made a moral distinction he was either unwilling or even incapable of making. Anyway, thank you for the kind words - I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Just wanted to add onto what you said with my own thoughts.

I just find it weird that he complains about this show not resolving the "clone rebellion" plot line while simultaneously acknowledging that it is clearly going to be continued in a future series, and then also says that he won't watch that show anyway because it's an ongoing story of "nothingness." He's just disproven his own point but proceeds to treat it as a criticism of this series despite knowing that wasn't the focus of the story.

Thanks man! I agree the Bad Batch is not above criticism, but all his arguments in the video are extremely faulty. Like - if he wanted to criticize the 3rd season for having filler, why not bring up the random Fennec/Ventress subplot that literally went nowhere and contributed little to the story, instead of the penultimate three episodes which are some of the most important when it comes to plot progression.

I absolutely agree, Bad Batch is up there as some of the best Star Wars storytelling we've ever received (Imo at least). Don't get why everyone was expecting an overarching clone rebellion plot line when that was never the focus of the show. That's not to say that the show isn't good when dealing with politics - S2 Ep 7 & 8 are a prime example of this, but the series was always going to be primarily about the title characters.