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Modernising your Retro Computer
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 4 ก.พ. 2018
In this channel I demonstrate some of the modern alternative peripherals and upgrades that can be used with your retro computers, as part of my quest to find the best solution without losing the appeal of the original hardware!
Preparing a CF / SD card as a hard drive for the Atari Falcon
In this video, I demonstrate how to prepare a compact flash or SD card for use as a hard drive alternative in the Atari Falcon.
The hardware used is:
- CF-IDE adapter, 44pin variety. Available for less than AUD$5
- 44pin IDE cable (if your Falcon doesn't have one)
- 8GB CF card. Cost AUD$20-30, but quality ones can be somewhat difficult to source.
Alternatively, you can used:
- SD-IDE adapter, 44-pin variety. Available for around AUD$13
- 8GB SD card. Available for around AUD$9.
Software required is:
- Uwe Seimet's brilliant HDDRIVER software. Available at www.hddriver.net/ for 45 Euro, OR
- ICD 6.5.5 HD utilities. Free but limited in functionality. www.icd.com/atari/adscsi.zip
(Prices current as at November 2018).
The hardware used is:
- CF-IDE adapter, 44pin variety. Available for less than AUD$5
- 44pin IDE cable (if your Falcon doesn't have one)
- 8GB CF card. Cost AUD$20-30, but quality ones can be somewhat difficult to source.
Alternatively, you can used:
- SD-IDE adapter, 44-pin variety. Available for around AUD$13
- 8GB SD card. Available for around AUD$9.
Software required is:
- Uwe Seimet's brilliant HDDRIVER software. Available at www.hddriver.net/ for 45 Euro, OR
- ICD 6.5.5 HD utilities. Free but limited in functionality. www.icd.com/atari/adscsi.zip
(Prices current as at November 2018).
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Installing the Gotek Floppy Drive in the Atari Falcon
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The Atari Falcon can also benefit from the Gotek Floppy drive emulator. This video shows that the installation of the Gotek drive is a relatively straight forward process for the Atari Falcon (compared to installing the drive in the Atari ST series of computers). With the rectangular cut out from the floppy drive's face plate, the Gotek is easily viewable with the Falcon's case assembled.
Using the OSSC with the Atari STE
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This is a demonstration of the Open Source Scan Converter, also known as the OSSC, when used with the Atari STE. The Atari ST has a progressive 240 line output and this shows how the OSSC displays the output with its various line multiplier modes. The equipment used is: - Atari 1040 STE with 4MB and Monster board - Atari ST to SCART RGB cable - OSSC 1.6 - Dell 2007FP LCD monitor - Lotharek mini...
Eiffel board (PS/2 keyboard and mouse interface) for the Atari ST
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A third party adapter for your Atari Mega ST, Mega STE and TT to allow a PS/2 keyboard and mouse, along with a traditional DE9 Atari-compatible joystick. Several varieties of this adapter have been produced (such as the version displayed with an LCD screen) and others with a USB port to alternatively allow the connection of PS/2-compatible USB mice.
Preparing the Gotek Floppy Emulator for the Atari ST
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This video demonstrates the simple process to prepare the ubiquitous Gotek floppy emulator for the Atari ST range of computers. This will also work for the Commodore Amiga though with a slight jumper change. The parts, tools and software required are: 1. Gotek Floppy Drive, preferably with the LED display 2. Soldering iron 3. Header pins - 4 4. USB to serial adaptor 5. STM32 firmware flashing u...
Is the DS jumper setting the same as for STs and do 1,44MB disk images work correctly?
Great video, many thanks for sharing 👍 Mike 🇬🇧
I tried a standard ST mouse with the Eiffel board in JOY0 and JOY1. Nope. Wondered if it could be used just for a keyboard replacement with original ST mouse. Seems not. Great unit though. Unfortunately no longer for sale. What is that neat desktop you are running? I think I saw "MagicOS"?
Good movie !
Awesome this was exactly what I needed to get mine up and running!
Does this work with a STF?
The STf’s monitor has a composite sync signal where the STFm and STe have composite video signal. This will still work over SCART with the OSSC
Hello, can I load into Atari some program (e.g. Steinberg PRO 24, that I own) from original FDD (Epson 480L in my case), then connect Gotek floppy emulator in place of FDD and save PRO 24 into Gotek? I'd like to use Gotek instead of FDD, but have this sequencer PRO 24 only on original DD floppy disk. Don't know how to transfer sequencer from floppy disk to Gotek. Many thanks for your help.
Super helpful! :)
Very helpful, thank you!😊
What software did you use to create images on the usb flash drive ?
Thank you a LOT !
Hi, I'm waiting for my own OSSC to connect my ATARI STE to my DELL monitor. What RGB to SCART cable have you used? I'm going to build it myself so any help on a working cabling and pinouts would be very appreciated. Thanks in advance!
I used one from Cool Novelties. Obviously, this will only give you the ST's low and medium resolution colour modes, but I had since moved to using an ST2VGA adapter to connect the ST to the VGA input on the OSSC - this gives you access to all three resolutions then. The OSSC's VGA input doesn't have a low pass filter so it isn't as clean as the OSSC's SCART input. I've just received a VGA to SCART adapter that will allow the ST to pass 3 resolutions to the SCART input, allow the low pass filter to be used, and hopefully all 3 resolutions will look clean again.
@@modernisingyourretrocomput3866 Hi! I finally got my OSSC and connected it using my built SCART cable. In general the images look a little wavy, and playing wit the parameters didn't seem to help much. Any advise?
0:40 as for the little ghosting (which is far more obvious in some games and demos), it's a common problem with the STE and Mega STE machines. I showed this in a (german) video and how to solve this. It's quite an easy fix by just adding a capacitor to an existing one (or remove it with the new one). As I can't put links in comments anymore search my channel for "Atari STE, Anti-Ghosting". I linked to the original article of this solution from exxos UK in my video description. 😉
any cheaper method to use the st on a modern monitor?
Hi. Any CF-IDE adapter, 44pin will work?
Do I understand that correctly you actually no need for rotating encoder as well as LED display since you have an onscreen browser (unlike Acorn or amiga)?
The rotating encoder and OLED display are really optional extras for the Gotek, as you have the standard two buttons on the unit and numerical LED display that serve the purpose of being about to change disks and display the current active allocated disk "slot". The onscreen browser is for allocating the disk image files on the USB drive to the disk slots on Gotek. The Amiga does have the same HxC browser available to do this too (it's available here: hxc2001.com/download/floppy_drive_emulator/SDCard_HxC_Floppy_Emulator_Manager.zip)
Cheers thanks. I have (just) bought some ST4's which have terrible keyboard cables, no keyboards at all and am hoping to bring them to life again with PS2 keyboards. I just stumbled across this and it's a very useful video which gives me some hope and inspiration! Thanks, now to hunt up this board. BTW, have you thought about a 3D printed case cover? If I find this board and get it to work I will make an STL and print it out.
I've since purchased more Mega ST's myself and bought these Eiffel boards. Good build quality and price, plus they include a case! gossuin.be/index.php/shop
@@modernisingyourretrocomput3866 thanks very much! I am looking at this right now, really appreciate it
I have a 16GB Sandisk flash card and an adapter. I know it exceeds the maximum, so if it works I will make as many partitions as I can. I am curious if anyone knows if it will still work when I put it into my Falcon. Or if I should get an 8GB card. Maybe I just need to plug it in and see what happens! The existing hard drive can only be read, I can not write to it anymore for some reason. So I want to upgrade to maximum potential storage if I can!
Hi great video quick question how did you get your Atari disks onto pc ? Aren't the formats different ? ..cheers steve
2000stephenellis the Atari TOS formatted disks have a variation of the FAT12 file system which can be read by PCs. If they are in this format, you can read these on your PC. There are also programs that run under Windows that can convert to the ST disk image format which can then be put in your Gotek’s USB stick. www.8bitchip.info/atari/floimgd.php
@@modernisingyourretrocomput3866 Thanks for that i`ll check it out i was trying to copy / backup some atari disks the other day when i put them into my p.c. i got "not formatted" error ..so was just wondering ... but thanks for the info .... i`d love to do the gotek upgrade but i have many many old music files that i need to put onto it ...so i need to be sure they will work beforehand ..cheers...steve
Desculpe amigo, não sei falar sua língua. Mas como seria o processo pra uso num sequenciador midi Roland Mc 50 ? Lhe agradeço muito se puder me ajudar.
Thank You for this Video Mate
Joseph Busuttil I’m glad you found it useful!
I certainly did mate my Fellow Aussie ... I might shake the cobwebs off my Atari falcon & get one of these Gotek drives.
Great demo! I just ordered an OSSC to use with my various Atari computers and consoles (including a few STs), mainly for video capture. Hopefully it'll be a worthwhile upgrade from my RetroTINK.
ctrl-alt-rees I don’t think you’ll be disappointed with the OSSC and ST combination. Coincidentally, I’ve used the Retrotink 2x with the ST but had to put a SCART RGB to Component convertor in between
@@modernisingyourretrocomput3866 Me too, in fact I have the RGB2COMP by the RetroTINK guys. I actually use my Ataris with Atari monitors but I'm looking to capture some stuff with my Elgato and want the best possible quality. Hey, if it means I can play my ST on my big flat screen too then that's an added bonus 👍
Great video, special thanks for showing both driver setups. Note there is also another modern alternative from the Polish guy that make HD packages. More videos please, even 4 a year would be fine. Thanks again
Paul, you’re welcome. Yes, Petar Putnik’s drivers are well regarded (as well as his work on hard drive adapted games and TOS modernisation). I don’t have a copy of his drivers but maybe I could ask for copy for a video?
Thank you for this, helped confirm a couple of things during the install. I ended up drilling the GoTek mounting holes to 7/64", which allowed the screws to fit nicely into it.
My Falcon 030 seemed to kill two different GoTec LCD readouts - but the GoTec functions correctly otherwise - just can't see which slot is selected... Anyone else seen similar results or know of any reason this would happen or if it could be reset somehow?
Well that was easy... Funnily enough I waited about 6 weeks for the eBay gotek to arrive and yesterday I decided to get one from amigastore because I thought it was lost or something, well of course it arrived the day after I ordered the expensive preconfigured one from amigastore... Oh well, the good thing is the one I got for the Amiga is one that has a custom plate for fitting inside the Amiga and I can use my cheap one purely for the ST without swapping around jumpers all the time, good to have multiple goteks anyway in the long run. Very simple and easy tutorial to follow, only thing that stumbled me for a bit was the pinout for the TX and RX for the Gotek but that was one google search away and it would've been easy to swap the 2 around if they were backwards
Interesting. Would it be possible to use a regular floppy as a b:/ drive if you have the mkx case with the gotek as a:/?
Thanks very much for sharing this very useful information.
Hi where can we purchase this gotek drive? Thanks
Where did you get XBOOT III? I am having a tough time finding it on the internet?
Eric Rich, that’s a great question...but it’s been so long, I can’t remember where I obtained it. I see that it’s here though: www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=31588
@@modernisingyourretrocomput3866 thank you for the link! 😊
Very useful video! I just bought a IDE-to-2xCF adaptor (DELOCK 91662) which comes in a 2,5" form-factor. I already moved my data from 60MB IDE-drive to the external SCSI-harddisk. I have to fiddle around a bit with the clockpatch, because I still have SCSI-issues. I hope removing the old patch and putting in the patch-PCB from exxos UK will do the trick. Next I'll get HDDRIVER. The plan is to use one CF for the main "Harddrive", the other for moving data from/to PC. Let's see how it all comes out. 😉
Have a gotek here for years, but never got it to work. This weekend I'll try again... With this tutorial with all good comments!
dussie920 good luck! I’m sure you’ll have a working drive in no time!
Hi if you still have it could i use your profile for the ST please?
Hi. Can you get the ST to work on hi-res with the OSSC, or do you use another solution for that?
Andy Keys , I tried the set up again recently using an ST2VGA switch on the STE along with the OSSC and a VGA cable. I was able to get all resolutions working. With hi-res, you have to turn on “Allow upsample2x” setting for sharp results
@@modernisingyourretrocomput3866 I have built a RBG to SCART cable that allows switching between MONO and COLOR. Will try using that setting! Thanks!
Great video! Quick question if you have a moment. I'm on FlashFloppy 0.10 and have a 520STfm. I believe it's TOS 1.0, no version info is visible under info. No rainbow logo. Anyway, I have the jumpers set correctly. No matter how I flip the ribbon cable, I can't cycle through "floppies" with the GoTek buttons and I can't format the "floppies" from the desktop format utility. It tells me that the disk is physically write-protected. Any thoughts? Thank you beforehand for your time!
Geek Therapy Radio Podcast are you using the AUTOBOOT.HFE file manager? How did you create your disk images you’re using for writing?
@@modernisingyourretrocomput3866 Sorry, not actually sure. It's whatever the seller included on the root of the USB. Let me check in a few hours and get back to you. Thanks!
Just to add, if its a 520stfm, then you probably have TOS 1.2.
Thank you for this recording! Warm Greetings to everyone! I am FAN - ATARI STE, TT, FALCON030, JAGUAR.
ARGON023 Thanks for watching! You have a good collection there (I’m missing a Jaguar in mine ;) )
This floppy virtual drive cant read 800kb images. Too bad for games
The firmware is able to read 80 track / 10 sector formatted disks. Have you tried the latest firmware?
Interesting that Atari switched the alignment of the Floppy-cable on the Falcon. Although I have one too (which I haven't used for 20 years now, but "soon"...) I thought it would be the same as in the 1040s or some of the external SF314 drives (not mine actually). Installing a Gotek in a 1040 can be straight forward plug and play, too. If using the right accessories. 😉 I just did so in my "new" 1040STF. Ok, for the rotary-selector and the LED-display some "adjustments" are needed. See my channel for more, or my flickr-album. flic.kr/s/aHsmyrFUTL
I am using exactly the same devices and USB>Serial that you did in the video. When I run ST Flashloader Demo I keep getting 'unrecognized device .. please reset your device and try again' or ' No response from target bootloader cannot started please verify bootmode configuration and the flash protection status.. rest your device and try again'
Ant2110 I’ve seen this before. Check the soldering around the header pins you’ve put in, making sure there’s no solder whiskers and that the pins and vias are surrounded by even solder
@@modernisingyourretrocomput3866 Thank for the reply. Yes the soldering is good, have tried few time and just the same, any other suggestions? www.powerlineit.com/temp/1.jpg www.powerlineit.com/temp/2.jpg
Soldering work looks better than mine! These two things may be obvious, but check the jumper is bridging the header pins, the contacts inside the leads haven’t been pushed in and are making good contact and lastly ensure the right COM: port is selected in STM32 software.
@@modernisingyourretrocomput3866 Yeah all that checked too. Maybe I should just purchase one that someone has already modded from eBay. Just was keen to do it myself
@@modernisingyourretrocomput3866 I tired using DFU file manager and a USBA>USBA cable and it worked. So have got it done. Do you have a repository at all with your ST images you have gathered?
Good video clear instructions on how to do the conversion. Will this just read .ST files or is there a way of reading .MSA files too?
Ant2110 this is using the Flash Floppy firmware, which as of version 0.15, doesn’t support MSA images. You can use the HxC conversion utility to convert MSA to HFE format but that defeats the purpose of one of the benefits of MSA ie smaller size format.
Thanks very much, I just bought myself a Falcon 030 and this has been really helpful in getting the SD card setup (and getting a Gotek installed) Looking forward to your next vid, so I can start filling it with stuff.
You're a genius! Thank you for your help!!
Thanks..and you're welcome!
If you have any further ideas for videos, post them here
Next will be moving software from pc to falcon. Can't wait.
thx
Great video paul
Thanks Justin! As you know, the process works!
@@modernisingyourretrocomput3866 still waiting for it to arrive Paul lol
pls test it with horizontal scrolling (graphic text in demos e.g.) and compare the delay results with a traditional crt. is it continuous or not, thats the big deal. anyway can be an interesting item
This is not really good case. Since monitor supports 50 Hz rate - visible at 5m 15sec. Most people now have LCD monitor what can 60 Hz, 50 not. Can this converter change freq from 50 to 60 Hz ?
So basically you just need to connect the floppy connector upside down? I thought you had to rearrange the cables.
Looking at the front of the drive, Pin 1 is on the right hand side. On the ST, STE and Mega ST, Pin 34 is on the right hand so the twist is needed to have Pin 1 on the drive and connector aligned (line 1 on the cable is generally shown as a red wire). For the Falcon, no twist is required as Atari placed Pin 1 on the right hand side, unlike the other models
What model is this? Trying to order one and found 2 models, namely SFR1M44-U100K and SFRM720FU. Thanks.
This is the SFR1M44-U100K. It's the most common and cheapest from what I've seen. The model number, the "U100K" indicates it's a 3 digit LED display. The "1M44" part of the model number suggests this contains 1.44MB firmware, but this won't matter if you are flashing your own - the underlying hardware is the same.
Modernising your Retro Computer Thanks. Will get it for my Atari ST.
ciao ho comprato emulatore Emulatore di unità floppy USB da ebay ma lo metto nella macchina da ricamo e non mi riconosce la porta usb ho MESSO UN ALTRO l'emulatore di un amico che ha la stessa macchina da ricamo e va bene solo che vicino ce scritto SFR1M44 U100 ora come potrei fare si deve aggiornare il fw grazie
Works ! Use this for all files: github.com/keirf/FlashFloppy