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I just wanna say thank you so much for transcribing your videos compared to aot of creators that use auto captions. They're so much easier to read😭 🙏🏻🙌🏻

Well Done, but am i the only one who experiences that the audio or the quality of the narrator is kind of off? Like there is some filter on it...

The question to me was always why did they not mention each other...even a passing mention I remember an episode when arin almost mentioned Jon and instantly stopped himself (it involved arin finding out he could tongue up in yoshi story) He ended saying "I was playing with Jo.....somebody when I found out I could tongue up"

You really do know your stuff. You should make a video on the Dream Daddy drama.

There is one problem with the girlfriend story. He made the comment in a video where he said he never took anyone hiking with him. So if he never took anyone that would include her, and if that is the case her story could be made up. I do think he found what he was searching for and shouldn't have been there.

oh man... this whole Normal Boots/Grumpverse broke apart the last few years.

If the child was filthy in the sherrifs care how was that looking after him and why would the father bring a filthy child all the way back to his wife,u couldn't make this up! All round nut jobs😮

I’m guessing Arin wanted to make it into an actual company or LLC but Jon didn’t want to commit to that. Jon probably want to grow his own LLC Jon Tron and be a singular earner as apposed to being a partner in Game Grumps. The reason they don’t talk about it is probably the legality behind this decision. I’m not sure if NDAS are involved as I don’t think they had that much money to enforce this kind of thing.

Arin need others to step on to stay relevant on the internet

If the real Bobby Dunbar died, then at least the fake one got a good life out of this.

Great work!!! I really enjoyed this video that just randomly showed up on my newsfeed. I’m so looking forward to watching more of your work and I know you’ll have great success. Thank you Sir!!! 🤩🤩🤩🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

First time watching ,knew this story ,but your presentation was enthralling .Just wonderful. Thank you for all your effort in presenting this story ,to us ,the interested. Keep it up , I for one will be watching ❤

Extremely frustrating to see Jon leave to work on his content and then he puts out content at a pace that matches movement of tectonic plates.

i feel like this video frames Jon a bit too much like a victim lmao

Julia Anderson went on to have 7 more children and became a midwife , did outreach community services with her church and went on to live a quiet life… she did not die soon after. ❤ It’s how they were able to trace the DNA 😊

2 hour video to discuss 3 minutes of content. Incredible.

Holy shit, dude - the quality of this is on par with what you'd expect from the old school days of documentaries on the History or Discovery channel. You have earned a sub from me, the level of dedication and attention to detail that went into this video were astounding. 10/10!

23:15 Who on that team legitimately, without hesitation, thought "Well if it worked for Stalin?"

There's nothing weird about the way the video is framed. The creator evidently has a very understandable distaste for inauthenticity and shady behavior; so the narrative naturally reflects that. The only other way it could have been written would be to minimize and excuse those. Other suggestions I've seen commented here, are frankly irrelevant.

Isn't EVERYONE who is missing STILL missing until they're found??

Bruce thought to himself the Dunbar's are loaded i can have a wonderful life. That's what I think anyways. Or the Dunbars were like look your family is poor we'll give you anything you want.

The moral of the story: stop making stupid people famous.

As an original follower of Conspiracy Grumps I still think Suzie did it.

Did Jon ever sincerely apologize for the racist comment? I’m not sure how many there have been but I’m just talking about the one used in this video. That’s a pretty damning video…and if he never apologized i have no idea why people still watch his stuff

Im sorry, but the only thing i can think of all this is either erin slept with jons girlfriend or jon slept with erins girlfriend. Thats the only thing that runs through my mind when i come back to this topic. What does someone wanting to leave a project have to do with an NDA that they just cant talk about it

I’m sorry but I could’ve just got this info off a Reddit thread. Idk why I need an almost 2hr video to tell me why😂

18:30 That's just a really shitty thing to say by Biscuit. "I know, but I'm not going to tell you." Like why the f even say it, then? Kid on a playground mentatily.

Last year I didn't even care about why he left. Grumps turned into an unfunny channel where the most talented guy just slacks off, and Jon barely makes videos and if he does, it's nonsense.

Nice work, I haven’t seen your never content hope you’ve addressed your plosives syllables. Made for an unpleasant listen on headphones

I hope one day, they can at least be compliant. And they both respectfully grown from the experience and past. Maybe not be friends but enough to respect and acknowledge each other's achievements. It's just heart aching to grown up with them and to see that, becasue you don't wanna see it fall apart, you want the memory to live and at least get closure, I respect whatever it's their business I just wish them peace Ya'know

I never knew Jon was a part of game grumps, let alone the original counterpart! I thought it was always just Dan and Arin. Then again i never was fully invested and only watched for about a month in 2018

Jon still won against destiny, then and now.

I hate that this parasocial behavior from fans was encouraged. On what basis do fans have the right to know anything about this? Because they’re just super duper interested? This shit is fucking bizarre.

I discovered the Grumps during Danny's first year, and it's his uniquely affable personality that made me a fan. Arin's manic energy coupled with Danny's usually zen-like approach has created the most unique chemistry. Jon and Arin brought too much of the same thing.

It shows that Arin very much is true to his namesake..."Ego"Raptor. He has always had a very large, very inflated and very fragile ego throughout most of his online life and it shows. It shows with the breakup with Jon, the refusal to speak of him. How sensitive he was because of it despite Jon's desire to maintain relationships post GG. It shows in the lengths he went to self-censor and ignore the issue when he could have totally just played it off like Jon did. It shows in his second hard disconnect of Jon for political views expressed by the latter in 2016 and removal of Jon from his life thereafter. It shows in his butthurt at how not even his friends like SrPelo can't even make fun of him playfully without reprimand. It especially shows in how he and some other creators (allegedly) treated DingDong and Julian of Oneyplay's fame. And his hypocritical double standards when mentioning his older work of any kind. He's unbelievably egotistical and it borders on toxic.

Looks like JonTrons channel is dead now?

I just feel like Jon kept trying to stir up trouble. One reason Arin stayed quiet is that Jon has said some racist and sexist things. More than one video had to be scrapped because he let things slip.

I can't believe videos are still being made about this topic over 10 years later.

My assumption would be that arin wanted to diddy jontron, but he didn’t go for it

Drives me crazy that when dudes have an issue it's people's immediate instinct to find a way to blame women. _Game Grumps broke up? It's Jon's girlfriend's fault!!! Oh... it wasn't? Well, then it was Arin's wife! Those sluts! Just like Yoko Ono, who is single-handedly responsible for the Beatles disbanding because men don't have the capacity to make their own choices! Grrr, I hate wome- I mean, I hate _*_those_*_ women!"_

I feel so bad for Danny in those early days of the transition. He really was the step mom of GG with the audience as the kids hating him cause he's "not our REAL mom". The fact that he was nervous, not because he feared being disliked, but because he didn't want to fail his friends and accidentally ruin their careers. He's such a nice dude. And even though I'll admit I didn't like him at first (but let me be clear I would never leave a hateful comment), he's my favorite part of the channel and it's not even close.

I feel like this report was super critical of Arin. Some of it deserved, sure. But it feels like he's being cast in a negative light as some greedy soul while Jon is just "impulsive". I think it's just fair to say that while they did great as friends and a comedic duo, they weren't aligned as business partners. I think Jon's inability to consider the brand once it got going was just as detrimental as Arin's insistence on building it up more. Frankly, I thought the Steam Train era was the golden age of Grumps. And we're still living in a nice Silver. My only real complaint is the games they play, but when I tune in they're still just as funny. I just can't bother to tune in for visual novels and the small little steam games they've been playing are hit or miss.

Feel bad for the ladies, every time a pair of dudes separates the theories and accusations of “it was HER fault” always come

I hope one day they settle difference's.. They helped me when i had a horrid breakup that almost got me to unalive myself... The grumps did help that hole in my heart.

I think the other big thing that people gloss over is Arin was 25-26 and Jon was 21? maybe 22? When I was 26 I thought people who were under the age of 23 were fucking idiots and still do That being said, Jon era is still the best they had much better chemistry.

The dramatic editing and narration during the Miiverse section specificially is sending me