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I reported it to U.S. Fish & Wildlife and to the WCCA, although I never heard back from either so I'm hoping I did it correctly. Is ebird where I should report sightings if I should be lucky enough to see another in my lifetime?

You can throw it in the trash just as you would any diaper, dog waste bag, puppy pee pad, or adult incontinence product. The product is degradable.

Because we use the lysal on a regular basis I can attest to the reaction with urine being consistent with the reaction with water. We use the pine pellets in the bottom of our animal cages and there seems to be no different of a reaction with animal waste either. And I agree, my assumption was the same as yours as to why the puppy pads performed so well. I know the test is not perfectly scientific, but I did the best with what I had to work with. 😉❤️

.@@freethemcgees Thanks for the input

IMHO the lasyl does NOT do an adequate job controlling poop odor at all. It's awesome for urine, and extremely compact, but pine pellets are the best for odor when it comes to 💩. We'd hoped to find a more compact and lightweight solution, but nothing does the job any better so far.

@@freethemcgees thank you very much! I too was looking for a more space saving option. I guess I will stick with the pine. Appreciate it. Happy travels

Oh My! That's hilarious! This has got to be the funniest comment I've read so far!🤣🤣🤣

You're welcome! It has performed great for us. We hope you have the same success!

A minivan! That's fantastic! Minimal is the way to go. We've learned just how much stuff we don't need by traveling light. We hope you have some great adventures!

Good question, as I know a lot of people do this. Contrary to popular belief, urine is not sterile and poses a public health safety risk. Urine contains any of over 100 identified bacteria; these bacteria can cause disease outbreaks and effect biodiversity. Biodiversity: Urine should be diluted with water at a rate of 1:5 to 1:8 to reduce the risk of damage to vegetation and when this is not reasonable one should do their business on rocks or gravel. Public Safety: Due to the contamination risk in high use areas enough concern has been generated that the NPS and BLM have issued statements concerning the proper disposal of ALL human waste products and not only encourage, but at times (in sensitive areas) require that all waste including urine and paper be a part of your leave no trace practices. I hope this answers your question. And YES! Strongly agree with you that pellets are superior to Kitty litter!

Aww. I was enjoying the spooky vibe of the impending zombie apocalypse! LOL!

This is a clear example of minimalism and utilitarianism in design. The aesthetic aspect is not emphasized, but the functionality is prioritized over the appearance. This is a reasonable choice for some as function is the primary concern - form is more about personal appeal and therefore highly subjective. 👍💯!

We use 1 capful at a time and that usually does the trick for the entire day plus. We have a video on how I make the bags we use here: th-cam.com/video/K2pyyADRERc/w-d-xo.html

Much gratitude! There's beauty in the most unexpected places in all of nature.

Thank you! We're glad you found some of the information useful!

Thanks for watching and the kind comment!

No. This is a paid campground and since making the video they have started a reservation system here as well, but you can reserve same day. You could easily get in a pull behind. We've seen full sized Class A campers in this campground.

You're right! Absolutely no value other than to see if we liked the smell before the product becomes contaminated! Great point! LOL!

Thx!

Hello to Germany! We are currently testing a formula where we turn the pellets into sawdust (the pellets are a compressed form of sawdust) and mix it with the urine absorbing powder for added moisture absorption. We also threw in a bit of lemon scent using a carpet freshening product scented with essential oil because we really liked the lemon scent of the expensive Eco Gel we used to use. We're allowing the "used" product to sit in the sun in a closed container to see how well it does with odor control long-term. If the test is successful, we'll post a video with the results.

Yes they are! A little on the heavy and bulky side but definitely the cheapest option.

A little dab will do you dont need alot@@freethemcgees

That's a new one for us! Have you tried it? If so, how well did it work?

Great to hear! Thank you for the positive feedback! 😁❤️

We recently made a mixture of the pine pellets (after we turned them to saw dust, as recommended by a viewer) with the Lysol and a little carpet freshener (strictly for the pleasant odor). We're testing them for absorbance and odor control for those who don't want the hassle of dealing with a urine separator. We'll post the results after testing it a few times.

@@freethemcgees thank you

In use them in my class b rv rather than water going in the black tank. Two scoops last 24 hours with no odor or leaks, and the texture is like damp sand. I line the toilet bowl with a good quality trash bag. But, for space, I may try the Lasyal.

Thanks for your thoughts, and sorry for the long response. I hope to explain why the test was performed in the way it was. I hear what you are saying, it did seem to be an unfair test due to the amount of water, but to use less water just so the pellets would perform better, would not have been a controlled experiment. The reason I say this, is that the puppy pee pads (equal weight) and the powder (half the weight) had no problem absorbing that amount of water, whereas the kitty litter and the pellets (with equal weight to the puppy pads and double the weight of the powder) could not. The point of the experiment was to find out which product was the most absorbent overall by weight - as to figure out the other factors, (cost per ounce needed & end volume of solid waste produced) and I thought the results were pretty conclusive. As for the amount of water I used, I explained that it was equivalent to the amount of urine produced by a single person in a day. So yes, pellets would work, but you would have to keep adding them, as you said, meaning the weight of the material needed to absorb the same amount of liquid would have far exceeded the puppy pads and powder. This would result in much more product having to be used, and a larger volume of material to be discarded by the end of the day. Since I had to decrease the amount of powder product by half to perform the test in a half gallon jar also demonstrates that its absorbency rate is superior - even to the puppy pads. That said, the pellets win the smell test hands down and for covering the odor of #2 - nothing we have tried comes close! I even use them in the bottom of my Iguana enclosures at our home, given iguanas have a very low liquid discharge, the pine pellets last quite a long time and their habitats do not smell like a zoo. We also use them (or cedar shavings) to help mask the smell of #2 in the portable toilet in our van, by sprinkling them over the top. As suggested, by a viewer, this works best if you turn the pellets into a powder first. And also, they are cheap, albeit bulky. So, I agree they serve a purpose and definitely have their place in the portable toilet world - lot's of people use them - it's just not the most practical or compact go to for urine. All of that said, for urine, which is the bulk of our solid waste (we attempt to only #2 in an emergency as there are usually bathrooms at trailheads, stores, gas stations, parks, restaurants, etc., this helps us keep odor control issues in the van to a minimum) we have yet to find a product that performs as well as the powder. I hope this brought a little clarity that may not have been explained sufficiently in the video. Happy Travels!

@@freethemcgees Got it, thanks!

How long you can use them is a personal preference, depending on how many people are using the system and if you take extra measures for odor control when #2 is involved. Personally we use them for 2-3 days before changing the bag and try to limit using them for solid waste when possible. When #2 is involved, we usually change the bag ASAP as a courtesy to the other sharing the space. Hope this helps.

​@@freethemcgees Yes that helps quite well. So what is your containment solution if you are out boondocking for a week and cannot dispose of the bags. Let's say you don't have any other bathroom situation and you go #2 each day, which gives you several bags to contain onboard your van. How do you handle this?

The situation dictates. If we're not near a disposal receptacle, we use cedar shavings and use the bag more than once for #2 if necessary. But usually we just put the used bags by the back tire outside the van until we move on. It's not a perfect solution, that would be a class A, B, or C with holding tanks and chemicals and deodorizers, but we're not ready to make that investment yet!. Maybe when we're older and full-time. Lol!

The weight will be almost equivalent to the amount of liquid introduced. One gallon will be a little over 8 lbs. respectively.