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Horton Common Model Railway
United Kingdom
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This channel contains the documentation of the construction of our Model Railway called Horton Common. We have updates of the layout during it's construction as well as tips and tricks for others to use on theirs.
We hope you enjoy our model railway and thank you for stopping by!
We hope you enjoy our model railway and thank you for stopping by!
DC Controllers for model railways - What's out there?
In this video, we take a look at some DC controllers for your model railway to help you undertsand and pick what is the best controller for you operational wise, across a variety of budgets.
From classic Hornby controllers to modern Gaugemaster. There's something for everyone's taste. How about yours?
Thanks for tuning in and we hope you enjoy! Thanks for watching!
From classic Hornby controllers to modern Gaugemaster. There's something for everyone's taste. How about yours?
Thanks for tuning in and we hope you enjoy! Thanks for watching!
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Heljan's new Class 47 - What a disaster...
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In this video, I take a quick look at Heljan's latest release of a Class 47, a model they have attempted for roughly 2 decades. Their previous version was wrong but this new version could be argueably a bigger downgrade than the previous attempt... Let's take a look shall we. You can watch a similar video, and more in depth than this, with Dean Park Model Railway. Link here: th-cam.com/video/Tn...
How to wire a point motor to a switch - Wiring a PL10 point motor to a switch
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In this video we responded to a subscriber's request on how to wire a point motor to a switch for a control panel. I hope I managed to fill in all the details that are necessary so that you can also replicate this on your model railway! If you have any questions let me know! Thanks for watching! #modelrailway #modelrailroad #modeltrains #modeltrain #oogauge #train #railway #railways #hornby #ba...
An HST back in Kings Cross 15th January 2024
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The Network Rail Measurement train pulls into London Kings Cross running 39 minutes early with 1Q19 06:34 from Darlington have covered an extensive part of the ECML, ex Arriva Cross Country Power Car 43357, its self formerly Virgin Cross Country HST Power Car 43157 and named HMS Penzance, does the honours of bring the sight and sound of an HST in a London Termini back once more. #HST #highspeed...
How to CORRECTLY pronounce Southern Region EMUs
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For a long time now, many "experts" in the model industry have been mispronouncing the Southern Region EMUs, from CEPs, to VEPs, to CIGs to VOPs. This video is to shed some light on how to CORRECTLY pronounce these unit names as well as what they stand for. Also, thanks so much everybody for allowing us to recently hit 500 Subscribers! We never expected to reach that number so quickly and we tr...
How bad is Smoking for your models? - The effect of Nicotine on Model Trains
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In this video, we dive in to just how bad smoking is for not just you but also your models and model railway. Nothing too long or in depth, just a simple look to help keep your models protected. We hope you find it informative! Thanks for watching! #train #railway #trains #railways #oogauge #modelrailway #modelrailroad #modeltrains #hornby #hornbymodelrailways #bachmann
Future Plans and What went wrong - Horton Common Update Video
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After our recent exhibition we've had some time to troubleshoot what caused the layout to fail so badly. In this video we explain the major problem(s) that occurred that day. Mostly. There were also some clogged up points which I forgot to clean but these two problems in particular were the culprits. We also quickly discuss some future plans for the layout after the faults have been rectified. ...
Horton Common at the Whitstable Model Railway Exhibition!
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On the 28th of October 2023, Horton Common made its first debut at Whitstable's 2023 Model Railway Exhibition. Sadly the day didn't go as well as we hoped as a huge fault with the layout caused the majority of the layout's functions to not be operational. We lost operation of the Up line, Goods Yard and Engine Shed. We were lucky to have the Down line working however, so we made it work as best...
A day out on the Swanage Railway - A trip for inspiration
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A day out on the Swanage Railway - A trip for inspiration
The Model Shop for all ages! - Ye Olde Model Railway Emporium - Model Railway shop
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The Model Shop for all ages! - Ye Olde Model Railway Emporium - Model Railway shop
Wire a Signal Indicator to a PL-10 point motor + Horton Common Model Railway Update
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Wire a Signal Indicator to a PL-10 point motor Horton Common Model Railway Update
Principles of Signalling- AWS and Junction signals
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Principles of Signalling- AWS and Junction signals
Pathing the way with more trackwork! - The extension begins - Horton Common Model Railway
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Pathing the way with more trackwork! - The extension begins - Horton Common Model Railway
Basics of Railway Signalling - Track Circuit Block and a little more Absolute Block! - Layout update
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Basics of Railway Signalling - Track Circuit Block and a little more Absolute Block! - Layout update
Replacing yellow LEDs in a Hornby Class 50 with warm white LEDs
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Replacing yellow LEDs in a Hornby Class 50 with warm white LEDs
Basics of Railway Signalling - Absolute Block - Easy to understand!
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Basics of Railway Signalling - Absolute Block - Easy to understand!
The future is looking bright! - Horton Common Model Railway Update
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The future is looking bright! - Horton Common Model Railway Update
Lots of new sights to see! - Horton Common Model Railway Update
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Lots of new sights to see! - Horton Common Model Railway Update
Relaying Cork and Track at Horton Common
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Relaying Cork and Track at Horton Common
Hornby Bulleid Pacific Idler Gear Replacement - West Country, Battle of Britain, Merchant Navy
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Hornby Bulleid Pacific Idler Gear Replacement - West Country, Battle of Britain, Merchant Navy
Replacing Hornby West Country Valve Gear and Idler Gear
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Replacing Hornby West Country Valve Gear and Idler Gear
Oh Dr Beeching, What have you done? | Layout Update | Horton Common Model Railway
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Oh Dr Beeching, What have you done? | Layout Update | Horton Common Model Railway
Horton Common Model Railway - Summer Update! Updating the yard!
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Horton Common Model Railway - Summer Update! Updating the yard!
How to install Peco PL-10 Point Motors to a model railway! | Horton Common Update
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How to install Peco PL-10 Point Motors to a model railway! | Horton Common Update
Horton Common Layout Update #1 | It's all going wrong...
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Horton Common Layout Update #1 | It's all going wrong...
Welcome to Horton Common! Ep #1.5 More history of the line!
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Welcome to Horton Common! Ep #1.5 More history of the line!
Introduction to Horton Common! Ep #2, The Track Plan and Railway
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Introduction to Horton Common! Ep #2, The Track Plan and Railway
Introduction to Horton Common! Ep #1, History and Geography
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Introduction to Horton Common! Ep #1, History and Geography
Local Passenger Runs low on Water! Dash to Horton Common to top up! (Model Railway Scenario)
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Local Passenger Runs low on Water! Dash to Horton Common to top up! (Model Railway Scenario)
It must be an age thing (70+) as this is how i prefer to wire up my PL-10s. Although as i generally mount my trackwork on top of 2” sheets of expanded styrene, cutting the hole is much easier!
Excellent idea, thank you for that
Hi There Again my real Name is Mr Cannadine T. Boxill-Harris, I have another interesting idea for most of us Class 507, Class 508, Class 313, and Class 314 and that also includes those interesting Class 315 Fans out there, rather than scrapping most of those Class 507, Class 508, Class 313's Class 314 including the Class 315's maybe you guys can convert them. Including the refurbishment into the Volvo TD102KF Engine, Leyland 680 Engine, Volvo B10M Engine, Scania N112 Engine, Cummins M11 Engine, Gardner LG1200 Engine, Gardner 6LXB Engine, Gardner 8LXB Engine, Class 507, Class 508, Class 313's, Class 314's and the Class 315's and convert all of them into a 2 Carriages and Three Carriages of the Class 313's, Class 314's and that is including those Class 315's for most of us Class 314 and Class 315 Diesel Train Fans Pretty PLEASE? Are you still going to do this interesting type of Project for all of us out there Please.
Had one of these on order. Could not wait to see it. Cancelled it and purchased a Bachmann version. so disappointed with Heljan,
I'm glad you managed to cancel your order, but if you'd havevswen it you would not have been happy
Bachmann perfected the class 47, the SFX with rotating fan has perfect sound profile, brake character and distance etc, even the uncoupling cycle is perfect, this one looks two generations older
In India pin point motor cost is very high, so please take 12v relay open coil place metal piece it will work, otherwise go for solenoid valve (used in washing machine) convert in to pin point motor, Solenoid valve cost 350rs, relay cost around 20rs .... I don't know other countries
I have no idea what Heljan are currently thinking…..
3:37 A distant signal is NOT to tell a driver to stop at the next signal! It is to warn him that the next signal is either showing clear or showing stop AT THE MOMENT the driver passes the signal. That is it! Nothing else. The next signal MAY change aspect after passing the distant, unusual but entirely possible. Why can’t people understand this?
Maybe because they dont fully understand signalling and model companies never tell anyone in their instructions, if they don't know it or have never come across it, they won't know I guess. Personally I've passed a distant at caution and found the next signal clear, my understanding as a Driver was always to be prepared to stop at the next stop signal and reduced speed accordingly , on the routes I drove on, it usually meant the level crossing hadn't been opened for my passage through yet, but once around the corner, it was usually pulled off
I could listen to you explain signals all day. This is so extremely interesting. Greetings from Denmark!
Thank you so much for your kind words - I'm so very pleased you found it interesting, it means a great deal to me to get such positive feedback on a subject like signals that I dared to discuss - very pleased we have European viewers too, Hello there Denmark 🇩🇰
Where's Wally???...I mean Ben Jones from Heljan 😂 How he works for Heljan is beyond me, I would be so embarrassed and quit!
I've got such a big smile on.my face after reading your comment - I couldn't possibly respond to that 😂
Shame there are so many errors. Worked on the full size versions for nearly 50 years at Canton
Wow - whst an achievement Sir, if anyone would know anything, then it has to be you, brilliant memories of the 85 open day at Canton, one of the best I ever attended, thank you for your service to the 47s and congratulations on a great work record
Had the same issue of having to break off the vacum pipes to get to the nem plug, on heljan class 86. I have never been happy with the 86.
@@user-cb9im9uv6e now I didnt know of that problem, nearly bought a heljan 86 last month for posterity sake having driven the real thing - 86214 Thanks for that info and your comment
@@hortoncommonmodelrailway Compared to the bachmann 85, it did run a bit rough. It has eased out a bit now, and runs ok.
That model is terrible, it seems Heljan are going backwards in their model quality.
@@headsup2433 It certainly dors cause concern that on the 3rd attempt the model is clearly one of the worst representations of such an iconic Locomotive, with manufacturers now scanning the real thing, it begs the question, how did they manage to get it so wrong? Thanks for your comment
I really don't get why they have dcc ready/dcc sound on same loco makes absolutely no sense same with 57s lol
Something worth pointing out about when you have the combined stop and distant signal is that it is impossible for the distant to be clear if the stop is at danger. An analogy to this is on the Underground where main and repeater signals are superimposed; the repeater will be suppressed if there is a red light.
Yes indeed, I thought I mentioned that? The Stop signal is the section signal to the box in the rear, the Distant is from the box in advance, in anycase the distant cannot be cleared if the section signal above is at danger due to interlocking on the signal itself.
I cannot comment about signalling on LU as I have no knowledge of anything to do with LU
those headcode boxes are far too big
French Patio Doors with Broom Handles as windscreen wipers 😂
I fixed air conditioners for a living and found that the 4x coil cleaning solution cleaned the best, as it does not affect the plastic. But you still need to be careful of all the electrical components as it is corrosive, but a good rinse with just water and all good. Yes l am an ex smoker as well, (bloody stinky habit)
I'm sure there's alot of us about, looking back we only now realise how foolish we were.
Did you not thinkl to unbox and check it on the Heljan stand, before you bought it ? You would have then seen all the issues you describe.. I get the impression tthat this is not the first time a Heljan model has dissappointed you ? Re the roof panels I beleive other manufacturers have also failed to clealy show the 4 section roof panels as well so not just a Heljan issue. I agree that Heljan should be responding in a more constructive m,anner re your concerns but Buyer Beware is a saying for a reson.
Hi there Mark, the model wasn't bought by himself, it was bought by me as a gift. It was a decent price and looked okay at my initial assessment as well as some of the reviews by Hornby magazine. However after getting it home and doing some further research I learnt otherwise so that'd be my fault 😅
If you listen carefully to the video, I clearly state that the model was bought for me as a present so I could hardly check before purchasing it when I didn't buy it in the first place. No this is not a regular occurance, no I havnt beenndiappointed before by a heljan class 47, I have over 20 of the older models with only 1 suffering mazak rot. Hope that answers all your queries.
I did listen to what you said, you said it was purchased the at the NEC show (Key Model World Live ?) from the Heljan trade stand, you did not mention that it was bought for you ! In which case I happily withdraw my observation, as I assumed (wrongly) that you had bought it for yourself, in which case my observations remain correct. I do not disagree with your overall findings so much as your tabloid approach to how you report your findings. Unfortunately the alternate (and I agree better) Bachmann models are now selling at a similar price to the Heljan units both new and s/h and the SFX versions are very rare. Lioke toy I hope Cavalex or Accurascale are doing a similar project in the backjground. As you suggest if they do not sell the price will drop and if the discount is big enough may tempt some modellers, who cannot find a recent Bachmann version. PS I do like your content normally so am now a subriber !
Apologies then Mark, from me to you, I honestly thought I'd stated it was bought for me. Yes indeed, the prices are comparable with bachmanns, personally I think all these "gimmics" are getting silly, gold reflective windscreens, rotating fans, I dont see how it is necessary, all reflected in the price of course, it wouid be great to see accurscale produce a 47 in direct competition, their prices are I feel justified for a basic model, I'm sure the detail would be more down to the tiny things. Incidentally I forgot to include that the engine room detail is simply printed onto the small engine room windows! I'd added engine room detail to a few 47s myself way back in the 1990s using thin plastic rod to replicate pipework and affixed to the inside bodyshell after appropriate painting, there were also engine room detail kits available I seem to remember, buy can't remember who by, for class 47s, now it seems the tiniest of derail sky rockets priced. Thank you for subscribing and for your informative comment, oncevagain, please accept my sincere apologies for the incorrect statement by myself.
Thanks so much for this very helpful explanation. I wonder if you could do a video explaining which signals are required at various types of junctions?
We hadn't planned on doing a video on such, we fear it would lead to a plethora of people quoting rules and regulations, exceptions to the rule and opening a can of worms. We don't want to get involved in lengthy debates of this and that, there's plenty of publications readily available on the subject of signalling and I suggest you keep a look out for these as well as any books showing track diagrams, which should also show signals used. At the end of the day, it's a model railway and not the real thing , and there's too many people expecting to be fully trained signalman at the end of such a video, I was a Driver, so obviously I know what signal applied to what particular stretch of line I signed for, I appreciate this may not be the answer desired, but honestly signalling is a minefield, each region had their own Divisional instructions and exceptions, it would I feel require a fully fledged signalman to produce such a video, and its something I personally don't want to take on board. Thanks for your comment, sorry I can't help further. The basic rule of thumb for semaphore signals at junctions is, a signal for a diverging route, wouid have a 2nd smaller post attached on a 90 degree gantry. The taller signal would be for the main line, if the main line goes straight ahead, then it would be to the right hand side on the gantry, if it was to the left, then the tall signal wouid be to the left, the diverging route would haveva shorter post, on the right if the route went right, or left if it went left, it there were 3 routes, then 3 signal posts wouid be atrached,, the smaller the post the more divergent the route, so it would be tall, small, smaller, or small tall small, or even tall, smaller , small. Best look at pictures to get a better idea, it's surprising what is available on Google just to get an idea.
@hortoncommonmodelrailway thanks so much, that's really helpful 😊
@@jonsloftrailway Really? Lol well glad it helped
When you started I thought, "Oh! No, another whinger." But by halfway through, I could see why you're so frustrated with Heljan. Glad, I don't model in OO anymore.
Didn't mean to whinge but glad you realised my dilemma - mind you, it was well worth whinging about I thought 😂- thanks for your comment, I will be more careful in future lol.
@@hortoncommonmodelrailway sometimes we all need to give companies a verbal dressing down. Hope you get your money back.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 yes we got it back, buy not in full, because they sneakily and illegally charged in Danish Króna at the NEC where my son bought it, they refunded on the daily exchange rate - naughty naughty naughty - highly suspect
I am very happy with my Triang Hornby 47. It pulls everything I hang behind it.
A reliable model but sits too high on the bogies, removing 2mm from each of the height lugs either side of the bogie and a further 2mm off the conical cone makes it sit much lower and not only looks better but performs better - but that's just my opinion and I take no responsibility for anyone trying it out themselves who then decides they dont like the look
You saved me a load of money!! 👍🏻
Very glad that we did! Thanks for your encouraging comment
Great content and excellent explaination. Thank you, sir! I have a rather unrelated question, if I may. On old / steam trains as well as on (old?) signal boxes, operators seem to always use a rag when handling levers. What is the story and reason behind the rag?
It's to protect the polished handles and levers from perspiration (sweat) which would lead to rust forming, interiors of signal boxes were the pride and joy of signalman and staff, heaven forbid a blemish on their levers or brass plungers when the signalling inspector came to visit- they cleaned their equipment in their signal boxes meticulously. Hope that answers your question
@@hortoncommonmodelrailway Thank you kindly for the reply, that's very interesting indeed and I feel nowadays we need to take more pride in things like this again :-)
There was always a feeling of Pride in the job, in every manual levered signalbox across the network, I've never seen a dirty signalbox, other than a closed down, abandoned, no longer used one, Dawlish Warren 1985 springs to mind, and Wye 2023 is another. When I started on the railway in May 78 as a mere boy, I was sent to the box at our station to see how a signalman did his job, after a few days the signalman trusted me to pull the levers, rule one hebsaid, never touch a lever without using a duster, if I catch you doing so, you never set foot in my signalbox again - stern words never to be forgotten, over the tears I forged many many string friendships with signalman, always tooted their box as I passed (I was a Driver by then) to thank them for a safe passage through their patch, still have ex signalman friends to this day.
We need accurascale to buy heljan 🎉
Honestly can't see that happening, but could see Bachmann buying Hornby!
@@hortoncommonmodelrailway that would be really interesting, but I bet Hornby's prices would rocket 🚀. Could see an improvement in quality though!
@@Gatherleymodeller. wouldn't be Hornbybtho would it if Bavhmann bought them.out, it'd be Bachmann lol - but they've got way over inflated in their wildest dream prices a terrible AI marketing manager who has no idea how to speak when conducting a review, sounds like a child lol 😂
Awesome video 👏😁
Thank you, glad you approved
Good video. Glad to see you came across the same issues as I did in my review. Cheers. Dave
Yes Dave, we didn't dwell too much on the faults as you yourself had pretty much covered the same discrepancies in your own review, hence why we directed viewers to your own channel to see and hear what you thought about it. Thanks for watching Dave Best wishes John, Jamie and Lewis.
I remember some clubs I visited as a kid where the room was visibly full of smoke by the end of the evening. Really the nicotine isn't the deadly bit, probably not even most of what you're seeing that's the other constituents of the smoke we commonly call "tar" in this context.
Yes I agree, and then just think for a moment........whst we inhaled as kids back then, no one even gave it a second thought.......today, pass wind, and the whole world is up in arms about the damage you've done to the ozone layer and how you've made an effect on global warming. We lived with untold risks every single day, yet we survived. Thanks for your informative comment
@@hortoncommonmodelrailway love learning about the history of smoking and tobacco companies and gotta say the absolute best thing I've ever learned is that some wise guy really thought putting asbestos in the filters was a good idea 🤣 double your deadliness. Also the filters do just about nothing to mitigate what you inhale with each drag, they are PH sensitive and that's what gives the yellowing of the filter as you smoke it to give the impression that some of the nasties are being kept back. May as well just smoke unfiltered in reality filtered only became the norm to sell the idea of "smoothness" in some brands which then became desirable so they all ended up filtered for no real reason.
@trainskitsetc hence I gave up 10 years ago, Malborough contained Salt Petet, JOS had asbestos in the filters, Players Senior Setvice had no filters.
Get your money back and buy a Bachmann one. Far superior in every respect! Good review of a poor model.
Got the refund but not what was paid, they refunded at exchange rate of Danish Króna to GBP which I think is disgusting - to be charge 1590 Króna in England, at the Key World Model Event at NEC by Heljan Marketing manager himself David Jones is disgraceful, I'm sure it's illegal to trade in a foreign currency out of the home country especially as we are now out of Europe with Brexit and for them to refund at a lower rate is just plain theft! Certainly won't ever purchase Heljan ever again
thank you for your video it help me fix my loco which without i wouldn't of had a clue where to even begin thank you
So glad you found it useful. X8849 parts are now becoming increasingly rarer to get, and there are 3 different types, which doesn't make matters easier. But X7613 another idler gear will fit and far cheaper to buy - hope this helps. Thank you for your comment
@@hortoncommonmodelrailway after following you instructions i managed to get the right running gear from peters spares cost about £15. thanks again
@@MrWozzy28 yes that's about right, X7813s are currently £3.99, and........mif you knock out the spindle, reverse the large gear, eeplace on the spindle it will replace a broken idler gear in a Britannia model too
Surely not even a Class 47 in this livery but a Brush Type 4?
Originally built they were indeed known as a Brush Type 4, after TOPs came in on 1972 then they were known as class 47, today they are more commonly referred to as a class 47, just as Westerns were 1000s they're more commonly known as Westerns or Class 52s, all depends on age I think, I'm 62 but to me will always be class 47
When first built they were indeed known as Brush Type 4s, following the introduction TOPs in 1972 they were reclassified as class 47 today they are more commonly known as Class 47, enthusiasts are getting younger and wouid be known as either a Brush, Brush 47 or class 47. Westerns were 1000s, but when reclassified known as Westerns or Class 52s, and so it goes on, I think it all depends on which era you knew them as. When I trained on them.they were known as Class 47
Recall their first class 47 , it was a porker and was generally rubbish .
It was far better than what they're offering now by a long shot, admittedly it was wrong but passable I thought, I have several, but dont run them as I've changed my era. Thanks for your comment
Im sticking with Bachmann
In a nutshell - yeah me too from now on.
Good video, too much negligence from manufacturers
Sadly yes you're right, today's manufacturers think we will just accept anything these days and be grateful, but thankfully we are not "starved" of better quality from.other manufacturers, the playing field is now open to everyone. Thanks very much for your comment
Just found your channel - many thanks for this review as it's saved me a lot of money!! The DCC sound version is priced pretty much on par with bachmann but there's no way I'd buy this, I'm glad I held back TBH.
Welcome to our channel, glad we helped
Even if it looked right, it'd still be a duff 😜
😂
all heljan are way over priced
Yes I'm afraid I have to agree with you
Ridiculously, unacceptably overpriced
I pre ordered one from my local model shop, went to pick it up, but as soon as I looked at it, and compared it to the bachmann 47, I cancelled it straight away and purchased a Bachmann class 37 instead.
Just no comparison to a Bachmann 47 is there? The faults on the heljan model just scream at you, especially the roof, makes you wonder how on earth did they manage to get it so wrong??? Thanks for your comment, glad you changed your mind.
What a shame. It’s a plastic toy after all……….. Triang were even worse, but it looked ok.
I most certainly wouldn't call any Locomotive over £200 a plastic toy, nor would I spend that amount on a "plastic toy" Scale model is more of a better description I think, except this wasnt even to scale - thanks for your comment, tri-ang Hornby didn't produce a 47 for a while, when it came out it was under the "Silver Seal" label, but it was far more accurate than heljans current offering,
Don’t have Heljan or Dapol on the track. Not worth the hassle.
I've not had any problems with Dapol - at the moment that is.
@@hortoncommonmodelrailway There is good reason I refer to them as Crapol. Although I will concede that they have improved significantly since Dave Jones (of DJM bankruptcy and taking peoples money for unfulfilled projects fame) left the building, I still refuse to buy any of their products. My uncle bought a class 22 and sent it to me to DCC sound fit, easy plug and play job...except for the shite PCB component tolerance mismatching which made trying to sort out motor control a complete nightmare. I wound up stripping out the PCB and fitting a board in sourced from Athearn Genesis as they supply decent quality NMRA compliant spare parts that actually work with pretty much all decoders out of the box with no fuss (not just your own brand crap), even if shipping from the US costs a bit of a premium.
@@Simon-Davis that was very interesting reading, quite a few things there I didn't know and its always nice to learn sinething new and worthwhile thanks for your most informative comment.
Enjoyed your presentation. The problems with Heljan's models explain why I do not have any of their models in my collection of 384 locos. Having watched Sams Trains for years and his problems with their models, is why I do not have any.
I was a keen trainspotter as a kid in the 1990s but haven't had much to do with British railways since then. Even I can tell that front end looks wrong!
hi there, i am amazed, i thought heljan was top company, my met loco is ok, awaiting green hornby cl 47 in the railroad range. as for your loco take it back to the shop
Was sent back to Heljan in Denmark 🇩🇰
Whahahaha 😂
Ridiculous price for a diesel that doesn’t even look right. Solution: buy an old Lima for under £50. They look very good, can be detailed (if you really need to) and very easily converted to dcc without having to change the motor. I have 2 running superbly on Hornby’s HM7000 Bluetooth system and wouldn’t swap them for this over-priced rubbish.
Well doing a PRESS NEWS - ASAP !!! Seems now Rivet counters, realise that rivets are correct, but someone else never used a real BRUSH for years. I'm not talking about the correct RAL Colours, for brushing the paints of a 47 XXX Ps i always say my 47 XXXIsh.
Nice one - gotta love a 47 I think 😂
Its a job to know where you begin with this thing. The old tubby duff they did over 20 years ago was better!!! Theres hardly anything right on this. Must be the worst model of recent years. I bet Bachmann are peeing themselves.😅
And yet according to a viewer of the channel yesterday, - "I expect too much for a 200 Euro loco" - I expect it to be right - I dont call that expecting too much. Yes I think lots of bachmann staff in hospital due to split sides and strained stomach muscles from laughing lol Thanks for you comment
@hortoncommonmodelrailway """expect too much?""" Jesus H christ, for the money these things command now, I think we're in our right to expect a model to be somewhere like it but this latest effort is so far wide of the mark, its embarrassing. Heljan have form for this sort of thing. They were told early on about the issues this had in the CAD'S etc, but they do what they always do, they ignore the advice and this is the result.
Fundamentally it doesn't look like a 47. Good video. Thank you.
Thank you for your comment glad you approve of the video
The Class 47 bodyside is surely the easiest on the planet to measure accurately! The cab nose looks rather too flat as well. I wonder if the Brush drawings will ever end up in a museum so we have a chance of trying for ourselves, like the kettle enthusiasts can?
What a lemon this loco is, in fact a lemon would be more useful. I bought one, mail order, obviously sight unseen, at least I got the detail pack and couplers in mine. But in order to put a coupler of any description on I had to carve off all the hoses or you won't get anything on. Forget about going round corners otherwise. What clown thought it would be a good idea to glue all the hoses in place on the buffer beam, because you pull them off, they have to be cut. So that was a waste of money for a start. And don't take the body off, the first thing to fall out was the cab pillars. And as for the plugs on the circuit board for the lighting, etc, I disconnected them and the sockets came of the circuit board, and because they're so bloody tiny, forget about soldering them back on. So I direct wired the motor to the bogies, at least it runs, but no lights now. Nothing but a gift wrapped bag of manure. Don't buy one, and if you're given one, give it back !.
Well, sounds you had a hell of a job with yours! Yrs fixing on detail at both ends seem ridiculous to me, someone said the lights operated via wand? I never had a wand with mine, buy perhaps you can tell.me if that's right or wrong please? I take it you missed a comment made last night by someone, which I later deleted coz the guy was clearly a graduate of the "Miserable Sod Society", and using his words about me:- "You expect too much, and a model costing 200 Euro blah blah blah. I've had 47 yrs of experience with model railways and I don't care about your disposition, you expect too much." After telling him I had 17 yrs experience with the real class 47, and experiencevwith two model railway manufacturers including within the design of models, and 55 yrs experience in the world if model railways was the final straw for him lol 😂 Thanks for your entertaining comment.
@@hortoncommonmodelrailway No wands with the loco, the lights operated in direction of travel, i.e. headcode and white marker going forward, red tail light.
@@fieldshuntcontactor8163 thanks for the confirmation, I thought it so wrong that Heljan have virtually told Modellers that they have to use DCC in order to have full control of the lighting functions, I have up on DCC as it was getting too stupid and expensive for words in my honest opinion, yet bachmann and hornby have switches for the purchaser to choose from - very strange
It's a duff.
I remember when Heljan brought out 47843 Vulcan in Virgin Livery . I purchased one from my local model shop at the time, I made the mistake because i thought brand new loco i won’t check it .. Got home and after a bit of lunch came to look at my new purchase , Opened the box , Got the loco out i had the biggest shock of all , On one bogie missing its middle wheelset , Looked fully in the box no sign of it , Took it back to my model shop , The owner was shocked but fuming at Heljan , How could it pass quality control ? Got a replacement & before heading home checked that one in the shop .
Wow what a shock - good job you dud check, Heljan are bad for quality control, but Hornby is far far worse
@@hortoncommonmodelrailway That’s very worrying that quality control is even worse on Hornby , With higher prices that ourselves the modeler has to pay the quality control should be higher prior to us taking out of the box for the first time no matter what manufacturer we have purchased our latest investment in .