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Love it!

The art is also from the Moon Knight Legacy run.

That’s an awesome combo! Hawkeye and Lie in Wait is a minion destroyer!! Add Face the Past for more card draw 😎

Sounds like it’s going to get better!!

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You bet! Thanks for watching!

Glad you like it!

I agree! It’s fun to have a look at the cards people overlook. Thanks for watching and leaving some feedback.

Many thanks! It was a blast coming on to the show and I agree...many times, I build decks based on "forgotten" cards...it's fun to try and make them work!

Let’s go!!

All we need is a card that let's you commandeer a plane...so you can fly it into Tasky!! Hahaha (re: Moon Knight's 2008 run)

That’s a good catch that I didn’t spot!!

Hahaha...Moony doesn't need to stand...he just needs to DROP ! :P lol

To be fair, we don’t confer when we choose decks, so we could have picked others. And others have accused Impede of having anti-synergy with Ms. Marvel, so this combo can’t win either way 😅

I definitely get that! Any time I play a deck with Impede, I love it, but I rarely keep Impede in myself. There are definitely other heroes that it can work for, even in these comment sections. I think Gamora and Shadowcat enjoy it too. I like it with Ms. Marvel and Turn the Tide so that I can keep doing main threat resetting, then do 5 damage and recur turn the tide to do it next round.

I think discounting any deck based on a single card isn’t a good policy, and creates some of the problems we see on mcdb, where people are afraid to experiment with decks…or worse, afraid to post at all because they won’t get any good reception. That could shut down the great community resource that the site could be. And bring that opinion up with KennedyHawk, who has said in record that by the end if the game, he thinks it will be one of the strongest cards in the card pool!

Interesting, I don't think I've ever heard Foiled as a hated card. It's a pretty great way to control the scheme on a flip down to alter ego. Since, it's just an "interrupt," you can play it on alter ego. Since two-boost icons is the most common, it's essentially 1 card to prevent 2 threat. And I think in this deck, since there's only 1, it's meant to be a cue to the beginner play to flip down. You draw it and see that they can flip down without adding a ton of strain to the table. Not a bad way to help teach someone the game. But also, it's okay if Foiled isn't your thing, I just don't know about invalidating a deck because of it. That's a new one to me.

I agree that there’s value in having the option to choose when to play the card and not just hoping you have it when you need it. But also it means it doesn’t have an immediate impact? Have to balance that on your deck!

I really like this perspective...essentially, it's banking it and forgetting about it, so it becomes a bonus when you do decide to use it...all these comments I'm becoming more and more keen to build a deck based on Lie in Wait!:)

@ glad to hear it. Great episode and good pick. I love preparation cards and Black Widow is one of my favourite heroes

@@yazank87 I acknowledge that that is the whole point of preparation cards...but it's the mindset really, that defines it...playing it and knowing you have it up your sleeve is different to playing it and not relying on it (or taking it into your calculations) and really just use it, when it matters most...both are ways to play it, but the latter is definitely way more effective!:)

That's a pretty great synergy! I hadn't considered that!

@@WinningHandPodcast I'm working on a Black Widow deck right now. Lie in Wait plus her Widowmaker Response will knock out her Nemesis Taskmaster!

That's an awesome combo!!oh....hang on.... I've not played Face the Past yet, but isn't there also a condition that you cant attack the nemesis that turn (I.e the turn that you play the card?) Actually, this would mean that you can't use Lie in Wait on them (as it's a response to when they engage you)...nor make good on the ready to attack them...:(

@@Rey_Plays_Games no, you can't attack the villain the turn you play Face the Past (so attack them before playing it lol)

Yeah that’s definitely a big help!

It definitely surprises me that Shadowcat + Impede on MCDB don't seem to get a lot of likes because that's a killer combo. Nicely efficient, leans into Shadowcat wanting to ignore crisis and patrol.

I think the main scheme limitation is real, but I don’t find it gets in the way as much as people say. When I play it in a deck, I almost always have a fairly easy way to use it.

@@WinningHandPodcast It could be because I tend to play build-heavy decks and almost always solo, so the space for events is limited. Those events need to really earn their spot, which means anything that has restrictions and doesn't play straight into the main combos gets deprioritized. In a multiplayer game this would get played more just because there will always be enough threat on the main scheme for this to be worth it.

I feel this about Impede. I want to include but I keep stopping myself, but then anytime i play a deck with it, I love that kickback to the hand.

Totally agree that’s it’s a card you should consider. Too many people wrote it off as “bad” and forgot about it.

Ms. Marvel having a biokinetic and using Passion for Justice makes her a thwarting all-star. I hope people just get to consider Impede in general.

Yeah, I see your point! If it’s for MP, then it should matter what the other heroes are bringing to the table. Though I’m not sure people use those tags correctly on MCDB…

@@WinningHandPodcast True (regarding the tags)! I see decks labeled as beginner decks all the time and often wonder how beginning players are expected to have every card available.

Turn the Tide + Ms. Marvel = chef’s kiss!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks for watching it!

Yeah I think Impede is underrated at this point in the game’s lifecycle.

Yeah! It’s funny because I constantly overlook it, but whenever a deck includes it, it’s fun and useful! Definitely underrated these days :D

I will check it out, thanks for sharing!

That’s awesome! Great name! Gonna try it out tonight!

Are you trying to stress test or just testing to see if the deck works?

@@TurtleDude05a little of both! Just asking for suggestions as someone who doesn’t play justice often

@Bogrin For general testing, I think Ultron is really good because of the heavy pressure he puts on, not wanting to let his scheme advance to stage 3. Red Skull is also good because you will always have a side scheme to thwart. Taskmaster is just a really fun scenario to play with justice. If you want to test the merits of the deck without as much stress, Wrecking Crew can be fun. Collector II and Sinister Six both offer some interesting plays due to their emphasis on thwarting. And scenarios like Hella, Magneto, or Apocalypse really emphasize a well-rounded deck that wants to see consistent thwarting. For a stress test, Venom Goblin is the ideal candidate for justice, imo. There are others, but this should be more than enough to get a sense of what your deck is capable of and how it wants to function.

@@TurtleDude05thanks so much for the answer! Will be putting it to work! :)

@@Bogrin No problem. Good luck.

I am glad to hear people using it! I don’t see it show up in a lot of decks in MCDB.

Yeah, it’s funny that there’s a gap on Impede looks on paper to what playing it feels like. I’m never sad to play it and help reset the main, especially after a villain scheme

That's a good idea!

Thank you! I agree, the solo community is over represented online and in the forums. But impedes worth another look!

Thanks! Yeah, Impede is an interesting card between solo and multiplayer. In solo, it’s the card that cheaply undoes a scheme. In multiplayer, it’s just a part of round upkeep surviving the step 1 of the villain phase. It’s definitely nice for heroes who want to do a lot of flipping like Ms. Marvel or Gamora

@@mcandyr That's a good assessment of Impede. Also, wanted to say I love a lot of your decks. I've been looking at your justice Gwen Stacy deck. "Let's things differently". It's inspired me to revisit the Spidey and friends.

@@TheOlops that’s awesome! The spideys are always so fun to revisit! I hope it’s a good time

That’s a fun combo!

Yeah! That’s a great callout! Shadowcat + Impede may be standout combo!

I think TBE is really great in a bunch of heroes and decks! Not sure why they didn’t include it there.

Team Building is pretty great! If you want to be recurring Red Dagger, it’s a good card, but just for playing, I think your only targets are Red Dagger, Moon Girl, and Champions Mobile Bunker, and Moon Girl wants to be paid for instead of discounted. But it’s definitely a great card when you share traits with key cards!

🔥🔥🔥 you love to hear it! Interested it hear how it goes!

@ will let yas know for sure! Just spent an hour plowing through every ms marvel checklist on marvelcdb! Got some ideas cooking haha

@@Bogrin I can’t wait to see what you come up with! That’s cool to hear this inspiring people to deckbuilding over the card!

Glad you enjoy the video series! I actually have found a lot of use for this card recently. I think it’s undervalued by the community as whole, in the “meta” that people have created. But there are times it’s good!

These are some of my overall feelings with impede. I love flexible cards and impede isn't always the card you need. In that moment where your team needs you, as the justice player, to draw into that crucial threat removal, Impede could possibly let you down because of Crisis. Clobber is really solid because even if you have a Guard minion, you can at least clobber them. If you have a patrol minion or crisis out, you can't impede the main scheme. For Justice wouldn't be able to help you either against patrol, but could be used against a side scheme with crisis. There is a reason the featured decks didn't run 3 copies of it. That said, I don't think it's a terrible card. Event sources of thwarting could always get new life breathed into them from future card interactions.

I totally understand the feeling and the main scheme restriction, but I've enjoyed getting to play Impede. It's funny that even decks that find a way to avoid the crisis and patrol (Shadowcat hero) don't get a ton of love with the community for some reason. but also, it's cool to hear how you see it, especially within your playstyle As far as anti-synergy, I thought the same until I played it. It was so nice to save my hero ability for different cards because Impede came back all on its own. So I would often use Impede to clear the main (because that can happen every round), use Turn the Tide to do 5 damage (with Embiggen), and then bounce Turn the Tide back with my hero ability to do it all over again the next round. With both Shrink and Embiggen, I can consistently do 5 thwart and 5 damage. If I'm doing multiplayer, i'll add in Overwatch it and play it to the main after doing my combo. It's super nice to have 5/5 for 2 ER + Exhaustion, that's as good as Gunboat Diplomacy.

You should! I feel like it was marked as “bad” early on by the community and forgotten. But I think it’s a good card!

Yay! I can’t wait to see how the experimenting is

I appreciate that, thanks for watching! Are you a Timmy player usually?

@ I dont think so. Im more of a combo player I think.

Yay! Thanks for watching!

Thank you!Vision has so many interesting minion builds because of his Intangible form. It’s fun to find ways to use that ability to control the “downsides” of having minions engaged.

@WinningHandPodcast I've never really seen someone play vision where they weren't trying to switch forms as much as possible. Intangible is just a special bonus most of the time, but building into it is really clever. And the non attack damage options are nice too. Excellent work.

@ Thank you! There are a lot of builds for Vision, I don’t know why people settled on a “solved” version so fast when he was released (switch forms every turn, spam Vivian).

Only prime numbers!

It is definitely a game for everyone! I totally agree.

I def agree about the solo meta. Part of that is the over representation of solo players online, and they are very vocal

@@WinningHandPodcast As a mostly solo player I get annoyed with the solo meta. People treat it like the MC gospel and it makes a lot of the conversations very boring because everybody starts to parrot the same things.

YESSSS that’s how I feel too!