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New to Jeeps and auto restoration and have learned so much from others. Trying to give back a little with some videos about my 1981 CJ7 258 projects. Got into powder coating along the way so including a few on DIY setup of powder coating. Mainly try to do videos where I haven't seen a lot of other posts and go into detail (certainly too much sometimes) on what I'm doing and why. Not an expert by any means, just sharing what I've done.
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Power steering pump restoration and brackets
Power steering pump was working fine but very oily and wanted to clean up. Removed it and disassembled. Powder coat, paint, and seal back up and reinstall. Removal and install of the pulley was an added fun bonus.
I made a mistake initially and forgot to install the spring and valve into the high pressure hole. I call that out. The spring goes first and is followed by the valve piece that goes small end in first because it fits partially inside the spring. They fall out when you pull the high pressure fitting off so pay attention to orientation.
Pulley removal and install kit a.co/d/3ejaYlC
Ball valve siphon worked really well a.co/d/9YORtEL
I made a mistake initially and forgot to install the spring and valve into the high pressure hole. I call that out. The spring goes first and is followed by the valve piece that goes small end in first because it fits partially inside the spring. They fall out when you pull the high pressure fitting off so pay attention to orientation.
Pulley removal and install kit a.co/d/3ejaYlC
Ball valve siphon worked really well a.co/d/9YORtEL
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Part 2: Filler before powder coating (JB Weld test)
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A follow up to part 1 where I compared some zinc primer powder to JB Weld on a small area. In this video, did the other bumperette for my CJ and used JB Weld on several areas of the front. Pretty good, but still a little mixed assessment. Worked well enough for my purposes. Part 1: Initial test looking at a small area and filling in with JB Weld th-cam.com/video/pS6jx1BBeFU/w-d-xo.html
Part 1: Filler for powder coat test - JB Weld
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Restoring a bumperette for my 81 Jeep CJ and testing out filling in some rust pock marks. Compared JB Weld to a zinc primer powder. Surprisingly the topcoat black powder wouldn't stick to the primer powder base but did a nice job sticking to the JB Weld which also seemed to hold up well to the heat. Planning to a confirmatory follow-up test in the next week. Part 2: Testing JB Weld again as a f...
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Fan blade restoration and powder coating
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I think the title pretty much covers it. Decided to powder coat but rattle can would have worked fine. If you can tell whether it's original or not, please leave a comment.
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Part 2: Breaking open and 'fixing' my oil pressure gauge
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In the previous video, I showed comparison of mechanical oil pressure gauge to my OEM gauge. Want to keep my OEM but it shows too low and doesn't capture variations - basically at all. More of an idiot switch until I opened it up and found a way to modify the reading. Check your ground first, then see if the issue you are having is the range is not correct - then this might be a way to fix it. ...
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Front fender common rust area and watchout
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Likely a pretty common rust area where the two panels on the front fenders are joined together. Likely rust throughout the inside but hopefully just some surface rust and won't keep growing if seam sealed properly to prevent water from getting back there.
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Starter removal, rebuild, install
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Before my engine rebuild this winter, am pulling the pieces surrounding the engine and restoring and refinishing them. The starter didn't come out exactly how I wanted it, couldn't get those square head bolts out of there. But still much nicer than it was before and works. Didn't end up replacing any parts. I found several parts listed on Summit - new bendix (starter drive), etc. If you do need...
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Alternator step-by-step rebuild and refurbish
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Walkthrough of alternator removal, teardown, cleaning, parts replacement and testing and installation. Show each and every part of it - really not that complicated. Below is a link to the rebuild kit I purchased on Amazon. The bearings and brush assembly and diode trio were a direct replacement. I wasn't able to test the rectifier and voltage regulator but I would guess those would work too. I ...
DIY Powder coating oven - watch your spacing
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My converted smoker to a powder coating oven sometimes is a little tight with some parts and have to get creative with how to fit my pieces in there. Have seen a lot of people using old ovens and am sure that's cheaper, but it seems like having something taller than wider like a smoker gives more opportunity for hanging pieces down and having them fit easier. Also the smoker is only about 25lbs...
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Part 1: Oil pressure gauge - mechanical vs OEM electric
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Part 1: I swap from electric back to mechanical to double check my readings on the electric and then back again to original. A little trouble shooting and talking about the sending unit. Important to match up the ohms between the sending unit and gauge if you are staying original (electric). Overall, switching them around is pretty easy to do. Part 2: Breaking open and 'fixing' my gauge. th-cam...
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Fender support braces to firewall orientation and placement
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I pulled the 6 support braces from the drivers side (2) and passenger side (4) and refinished them and then installed them back. While going over the braces, can also see the position of battery tray, charcoal canister, jack holder, and washer fluid reservoir. Fender removal if that is part of what you are doing is in a different video: th-cam.com/video/7KJ6-xMziek/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WfMbhyJjmNsKC5Lu
DIY Sandblasting glass protective sheet SHORT TERM alternative
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In a pinch or if you just want to save some money, can use saran wrap as a pretty good protective cover. Longevity is still unknown but so far so good. I did try several products and some with a DA to polish off the haziness from official protective covers but had no luck. Tried saran wrap just for kicks and it worked great. Its not pretty, but near perfect visibility. UPDATE: The saran wrap he...
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Rust removal and welded patch panel
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I removed PO fiberglass repair and cut out the rust. Made a patch panel with 16 gauge and installed it. My welding could use a lot of work, but I think it will hold well enough for a few years until I hopefully can strip this whole thing out and paint it proper like.
DIY Powder coating hooks shapes and angles
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For anyone who doesn't have a lot of experience with powder coating, hopefully this will be helpful information as you are choosing or making your own hooks.
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Front driver fender removal
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There's only a few things to remove to get the whole fender off - from there, much better access to power steering, steering shaft, exhaust and intake manifolds.
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Driver side fixed seat brackets, spacing and passenger lift riser seat bracket
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Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Driver side fixed seat brackets, spacing and passenger lift riser seat bracket
DIY Powder coating booth filter option
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DIY Powder coating booth filter option
DIY Compressor for home sandblasting - specs and review (Husky 30 gallon C304H)
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DIY Compressor for home sandblasting - specs and review (Husky 30 gallon C304H)
DIY Eastwood powder coating gun setup with powder storage and amount used
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DIY Eastwood powder coating gun setup with powder storage and amount used
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Vertically driven speaker box review - highly recommend!
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Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Vertically driven speaker box review - highly recommend!
DIY Learning bit by bit on how to powder coat in tighter spaces
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DIY Learning bit by bit on how to powder coat in tighter spaces
DIY First run of the new powder coating booth with Eastwood gun
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DIY First run of the new powder coating booth with Eastwood gun
DIY Powder coating booth with Eastwood gun
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DIY Powder coating booth with Eastwood gun
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 EGR block off plate conversion
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Jeep CJ7 1981 258 EGR block off plate conversion
Harbor freight sandblasting cabinet use and mods
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Harbor freight sandblasting cabinet use and mods
Sandblasting surface prep for powder coating DIY
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Sandblasting surface prep for powder coating DIY
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Spare tire carrier walkthrough
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Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Spare tire carrier walkthrough
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Tailgate hinges, cable stays and latch
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Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Tailgate hinges, cable stays and latch
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Kill switch option & installation
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Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Kill switch option & installation
Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Clutch linkage walkthrough
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Jeep CJ7 1981 258 Clutch linkage walkthrough
thanks! I was wondering what held the handle through the slide mechanism as mine keeps falling out, just a little lock washer thing turns out. lol
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Try applying the jb weld sanding smooth and baking the part to off gas the jbw and then applying the powder and rebake.
@Aaron-jd1cb good idea, will try that next time. Since it laid on flat, it does seem like any discoloration would have been caused by it reacting to the heat.
Thanks for linking the regulator and filter that worked for you. I was going to run my gun without since i was doing a test run. And amazon has so many kind of regulators and filters i didnt know which to get. So thanks for the links i went ahead and got it now.
Thanks so much for taking the time to do this. I am dealing with a 1983 J5 panel as a newbie and really appreciate your time to make this video.
When you tried to rotate it, the shaft had no bearings, thus it was scraping against the magnets. Once the end caps bushings are in place, it rotates as it should. Good idea to bench test a starter before doing the re-install. With AMC/Ford/Autolite starters, it is a matter of grounding the case (usually a bolt flange on the aluminum end cap) and applying 12V to the battery cable stud. I have an issue with an AMC/Jeep starter I bought. Will not run - only arcs at the lug when you touch the jumper cable to it. However, when I took the sheet metal bendix cover off and pressed the bendix arm to open those two large contacts, it spins up fine(?) Anyone know if this indicates a direct short somewhere?
this is an awesome explanation of how this carrier works and bolts together...we are in the process of building something similar for our CJ3b to get the spare tire off the passengers side quarter panel and to the rear...could you tell me what size square tubing is used?...we have some 1-1/4 and hope that will be large enough.
I was reading that I needed 50 ft run of hose before the filter in order for the air to warm up and the filter could catch the most water. I have the 27 gallon to paint with, trying to set it up right.
You should fill it with welder grind it down. But I’m probably the only one who doesn’t use body filler. LoL
@@darranlynas appreciate the suggestion. But let's just say my welding skills are a work in progress.
You should try All metal body filler!
@jimhoran5445 would like to. Have heard of it, just not crazy about the $50 ish for this one piece. But if I had others, would definitely check it out
JB to the rescue, again!
@@lohikarhu734 I sure hope so. I just slathered it all over the front of the other bumperette. We'll see on part 2.
Thank you, very informative, I'm trying to install them but was having trouble, this helps a lot
I have an 85 CJ and my fan is a 4 blade fan. that does not like like an OEM Fan Blade
@Rustkill2010 Maybe not. When I found the 06 98, it looks like a date. Maybe original fan didn't fit with the new radiator. Would be nice to get a full rundown, of everything the previous owners did and why. Always a mystery.
Thanks for the video I had the same problem. But when I opened my gauge I broke the needle too Thankfully I have another gauge. But I used a stronger magnet outside the gauge housing and it worked. Thanks again
@user-yz6dn1lm6j Wow, so the magnet is a thing! That's fantastic! Good feeling when fiddling around you actually figure out how to make it better.
Great video. I have to practically stand on my peddle to get the clutch to disengage. Gives me a better idea as to some of the adjustments I may need to do. Do you recommend any videos on how or proper way to adjust the linkage ?
@jacobsimmons3565 You shouldn't have to press that hard. Disconnect the bottom end of the rod that goes their the firewall and see it the high tension is caused by the return spring attached to the peddle. If it's not that, there may be something going on in the bellhousing with the clutch fork or pressure plate. Not sure about a video that shows the inside if the bellhousing.
great video, but could hardly hear you talking had to crank up my speakers
@@omgbbqcia911 I should probably look into a mic. Thanks for the feedback.
I got a crack on the right bottom side of the tire carrier, below the stop light, holding a regular tire. I'm not the only one with this problem, had to remove the carrier and keep the spare tire inside. I am looking for ways to have a tire carrier that doesn't crack the body.
Thank you very much for the video. I needed a recent one on this air compressor.i now just bought one.
Great, hope it works as well for you as it has for me.
Looking to ground my dash on my 80 CJ5. Where did you ground yours to what?
Not sure if this is the main ground to the dash but I have a spade connector with a screw coming from underneath up through the bottom lip. Right above the right edge of the parking brake pull. Have to make sure good contact to metal, not paint.
What abrasive do you recommend over all? Multi use.
I'm no expert. But I used 80 grit glass bead initially. Was pretty happy with it. About 30lbs was enough to feed my cabinet. Am using 70 grit aluminum oxide now and honestly don't notice a difference. Takes about a 50lb bucket for the cabinet. I like the white aspect of the bead because big flakes of paint that might clog the gun are more noticeable. Got both at harbour freight.
I'm using a wardrobe box I got from home depot that is thick cardboard and I am able to velcro the filter inside and hung the fan in the back. I will get pics.
Thats a great idea for the booth! Should be plenty of room to hang the parts.
All of the ones I see they can only get them to 275
I think you are referring to what they are rated for. You have to add the insulation all around to help get it advice 400. I've gotten mine to 500. Just remembered that you also have to dismantle or insulate or otherwise keep the built in thermometer rod from reading the full temp because it will turn off the coil before it gets to temp.
@@steve80TBG THAT was the answer I was looking for. How would you suggest I dismantle or insulate the thermocouple and how would I keep it from going over degrees? I have the Masterbuilt with a window, no thermometer and the digital control on top is what shows the temp and time.
@hawaiibikekahuna8204 that's a tough one but assuming you can get a separate thermometer to tell you the real temp, I'd try wrapping the probe with insulation or aluminum foil enough to be able to get upper 400s real temp before the smoker turns off. You should be able to then establish a rough conversion. Example, if you set it at 250, the real temp is about 409.
@@steve80TBG So I could cover or uncover the probe to where it will consistently keep a 400 degree temp.
Do they sell new gauges...that look like the old ones for replacement?
Yes, Omix makes one that looks reasonably close to original. A lot really like SpeedHut but they are expensive - and dont look original - depending on what your objectives are. I wanted to stick to original and actually just last night think I found a short in my signal wire which may be causing some of the issues - need to replace and see.
I'm trying to find out how a stereo is supposed to be wired in... good video though
There is an ato clip that plugs into the fuse box I believe for ignition power. If you have a newer radio with a memory, you'll need to find an available always on 12v. I used a fuse piggy back on another fuse that's always on. Then a ground you could get from any body bolt behind the dash.
im not sure how exactly you had it wired for your bench test, but i THINK it is energized through the vehicle'e run circuit. i believe it needs a voltage in and then out. but dont quote me. in the FSJs, the Amp meter is inline with the power feed. i think the CJs use a seperately fed volt meter that doesnt require power going through it for the entire vehicle's power to work. Im kinda jealous. i would suggest getting a reprint of the 1981 Jeep Technical Service Manual for the knowledge. also the alternators as far as i know are the "10si". there was also a "12si" model which is heavier duty/higher amperage output than the 10si. my ex Alternator Guy rebuilt several of mine over the last decade or so with higher output components in the stock 10si and 12si housings. he's my ex Alternator Guy because the last AMC/Ford starter he rebuilt only extends the drive half the time, he scrapped and recycled about 6 of my old AMC/Ford starters i brought him in a box to make a couple good ones out of...and i got nothing back but disassemblednstsrter, and few extra broken srarter snouts. that, and he gave me someone else's 10si...the mounting points were clocked 90° off, so the regulator plug position was unreachable (i fixed that)...and the plastic fan (which wasnt mine) rubbed on the upper mount bolt. it clearanced itself. this was the 4th or 5th alt rebuild he did for me, and the last. so im in the same boat as you now...a noob DIY alt rebuilder. good first try. im gonna be right behind you.
Glad you are getting a chance to do it right. I didn't know exactly what to expect and just glad it seems to be working ok. One day I'll try to figure out why the bench test failed. I rebuilt my starter next and now going to refinish at least the outside of the power steering pump.
I just purchased an Eastwood gun. Page 12 of the instruction book says: As for the powder: A little goes a long way. Filling the gun cup to approx. 2" deep is ideal. Notice: "Never fill the cup gun more than 1/2 full or incomplete fluidization will occur resulting in clumps" That's a nice simple setup, thanks for posting!
It does look fantastic! Great job!
Thanks, I just rebuilt my starter too.
Great vid! Sounds like it was the grounding through the powder coat?
Have heard about others having so many issues with grounding, I sanded off those couple of contact points to avoid running into the same thing. Might have been why the benchtesting didn't work. Been working fine for several weeks now.
Great video, thanks for sharing. I was wondering about the orientation of all the spare tire carrier pieces, and fastener dimensions, since I neglected to take enough photos during disassembly. I’m wrapping up a 1981 CJ7 restoration. Nice work!
That's great, looking forward to wrapping mine up at some point. Still a lot to do but one step at a time.
the pressure should go up when you give it fuel the way you did.
Yeah, there is something not quite right about it. Doesn't react to the engine but feel better that I tested it with a mechanical. Kind of viewing it as a oil pressure good vs bad rather than a helpful range. I might replace at some point.
I decided to break open the gauge and stumbled on a way to adjust the range using a magnet. th-cam.com/video/SkmVgkq_kko/w-d-xo.html
Great video and information. I have a '86 CJ7 with exactly the same issue with my oil pressure gauge. The previous owner (I'm the 2nd) said the gauge hadn't worked for several years but hadn't tried to fix the problem. Your video will be a big help when I tackle this fix. There's always something to work on with these CJs. Cheers.
Hope it helps and that you can get it working. Feel like it probably doesn't take much to push one of these 40 year old gauges into unreparable.
I broke up my gauge and stumbled on a way you might be able to adjust the needle range. Thought this might help. th-cam.com/video/SkmVgkq_kko/w-d-xo.html
They are $599 and have been for the past few months. How in the world did you get it for $3-400?
It was an overstock item. Have also seen pretty big discounts from harbor freight on scratch and sent stuff. Looking through Facebook marketplace you can find some good deals if you aren't in a hurry.
I was under the impression that when i got mine, that it was also a two stage compressor when its actually a single stage compressor. They advertise as having "two stage performance" though I'm hoping that it remains that way over time. Now I'm doing research on how I should setup the plumbing/filters
Not a bad idea! Wouldnt matter if you had to replace it every day, cost wise.
@georgewilcox8476 New post of driver seat, good idea to add spacing of bolt holes. That has been appended to the end of this one.
Glad it helped. I've heard glass tubs are not pre drilled for a lot of stuff, or reinforced. Good idea to pay attention to that and do what you can to shore up. Let me know if you need any others.
Its George again and just wanted to ask you if could supply same measurements for passenger side. Stock CJ7 seat. Thank you George
@georgewilcox8476 I'll make myself a note to pull that but currently traveling so will be Wednesday.
@georgewilcox8476 I just posted the dimensions for the passenger seat to the description of this video.
Great videos sir. I'm restoring my first cj and never took this thing apart in the first place.. I'm flying blind and videos like this are great for me to reference with a new tub to drill
You might as well spray the whole entire thing if you're that picky about the factory missing a spot in their powder coating
As a lefty and dyi guy - love the set up. As far as the smoker - I assume it’s an electric one with the heating element on the bottom. Cleaver - never would have thought about one of those as my oven. Would like to get a link for the inline water filter/separator
How did you take out the emergency park brake? Do you have a video abit it, cause I want to fix it too.
I don't have a video but it's pretty straight forward. 2 bolt studs go through the firewall, just remove those nuts. Then 1 bolt just behind the lower part of the dash. Then the tricky part is pull out the clip holding the cable in, but then may have to go underneath and loosen the cable to give enough slack to disconnect the cable from the parking brake.
Curious what model compressor you use for SB? I had planned to buy a 60 gal compressor. Would prefer a smaller one.
A Husky 2 stage 30gal C304H. It really all depends on what and how often you are using it for. I trolled facebook for a while and all the pro guys tout the biggest you can get. For me, this works great. I can run it for quite a while before I stop to let it cool down. Maybe 30+ minutes. It pretty steadily up with my 1/4 inch line and fine tip in the blaster. I'm doing maybe 3-5 bracket sized items at a time and its perfectly fine for that. Doing a video on the compressor is next on my list. The two stage as I understand it also is quieter and more efficient. I was concerned about noise, being in an enclosed garage bit it doesnt bother me at all, barely audible in the house. For DIY, its a good fit.
@@steve80TBG Wow! Thanks for that info!! I'm a DIY tinkerer and really don't think that I need a 60 gal compressor. I'm going to give it a try. I'll subscribe to see the compressor topic.
Awesome
Good videos (including the others). As for the EGR plate, you could've used a thinner plate and "backfilled" the excess space with a couple of washers. Just another option.
Yeah, I probably didn't save any time messing around with and gutting the converting the existing valve - more curious what was inside it and see if it was even possible.
Where did you order your wiring kit from. I’m doing an 81 cj7 myself. Wanna redo the whole wiring harness.
I put new bushings in the bell crank and new motor mounts a year or so ago. Just recently, I started having problems with the bell crank pulling off of the ball joint on the bellhousing side--a very unsafe and frustrating problem.
Very frustrating, am surprised I don't hear about it more. Just kind of preciously pushed up against it without much protection from slipping out.
Those are for the air injection system. Part of the smog pump.
Why block it ? And not keep the egr? Fuel injection ? Not needed ? I think when I went to fuel injection on my 85. I left the egr.
Good question. I had it there for a while. For some, it may be just the cleaner look, which it helps, but I was also a little concerned about the potential for a vacuum leak.
Are you powder coating those small parts yourself ?
Yes, I got a sandblasting setup last year and have been making my way around the jeep. I did a video on smoker conversion to an oven. Worked great and been really happy with it. Not big enough for the carrier itself. Had to send that out.
You should definitely think about replacing the original with a rod end (heim joint) unit. That new rod will wear out again and slop will increase. I replaced my 76 cj5 one which now has very smooth operation and I have zero issues. I am very glad I did it.