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I can confirm the app does not work anymore and it makes this headband useless

@den15423 It's a shame. The Muse S headband and app are less than stellar, e.g. the headband keeps wearing out after a few months, and the somngraph is pretty useless compared to the Dreem 2. There is no other commerically available similar product on the market.

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Apologies the audio isn't clear for you. I am making changes to my mic setup for the next videos I plan. Also for anyone else that has issues with the audio clarity or my accent, my website always includes an associated blog writeup that has the same detail for what is covered in my videos, there are also a few posts that I don't always convert into a video: www.majorinput.co.uk/blog In regards to the temporal electrodes - these are not great I agree. I think Muse will need to look at designing flexible comb style electrodes that can work through hair better for these. I've never had to do anything other than use a little bit of water for the front electrodes to work fine. If you want to reduce imedance further you could try conductive paste.

Thank you for your gracious response. To be frank, I think you should speak with care to articulate your words more distinctly. As for the conductive paste, thank you for the tip. It's a pain, but I will try it.

I guess they should maximise the contact area of the above-ear electrodes, much extend them. Perhaps they could double the padding of the band over them, to sharpen the pressure? The heartbeat thing is not good.

My observation is that the heartbeat record provides good information about sleep, though I doubt that many devices use it? Beyond the obvious persistent slowing, I observe three types of heartbeat-registered sleep. (2) rhytmic, perhaps 4 cycles per minute; (2) flat, little variation of rate; (3) erratic rate variation. I have little idea how those relate to the EEG stages, but I guess that (3) might signal REM sleep? It would be a feat to program this from a record, though often it's easy enough to see it by eye.

I think the HR sensor was fine before for me, this shape probaby helps if you had issues previously

Thanks, I've made a lot more progress since this with my own designs and there's definitely a viable approach to applying EEG based tech to lucid dream induction and analysis. There are some products already that claim to do this like the Hypnodyne ZMax and the Lucid Dreamer - I think the latter is still in production but I've seen the ZMax and I think it's very well built. I'm working towards a similar kind of device but it will take more time to develop and test - I'll update things on here when I've got more of it completed. For dream cues, the only proven approach I know of is via light based cues - basically LEDs that shine through your eyelid and these have been proven to work although expectations need to be realstic in practical terms with how consistantly it would work. Audio cues are pointless as are anything tactile based so any type of lucid dream induction device would need to have some part of it mounted close to your eyes.

@@majorinput4217 I've seen a video of what the ZMax is capable of. It's as close as a clinical application as it gets but that's close to 1000$ too though. That's interesting you mentioned audio and tactile cues are useless. I've seen a video of Michael Raduga who mentioned that at the moment lucid dreaming devices are pointless because you might get 1 successful LD induction with it, then the following days your brain would filter out the cue. I did some research on how to build a lucid dreaming induction device too. I was going the same road as you with Arduino and Olimex. I was thinking also approaching some wireless EEG headband companies and see if they could share their SDK but I would not like having something on my head emitting EMF's all night long. Personally, I got to the conclusion that reprogramming your neurology is the way to go compared to using devices. You have the ability to create new habits in your mind (for good and bad things :D). But I'll be following your progress. I'd say you're onto something ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼

No, it does not

You can order a Gen 2 replacement band, which fits the Gen 1 pod. Problem solved.

Hi, it's still there: apps.garmin.com/en-US/apps/9d8bc328-2db9-4c5b-b3b1-bf23472f3e4d . It's not listed in ConnectIQ search on the first few pages this week and I'm not sure why, I've contacted Garmin to find out. If you google 'garmin smart alarm', it's usually the first or second link so not sure what they're doing but you should still be able to get it. There's a few watch models I no longer support so just check the list before downloading and then test it out.

yes sure you can email me here: jabituyaben@gmail.com. I've made an analog front end that is a bit more mobile friendly than the one I used here from Mikroe. Still needs a bit more testing though. Thanks

Still enjoying it? I'm considering buying a used one primarily for accurate for sleep tracking

Hi I've been able to add it for the Epix Gen 2 plus some other newer watch models, should go live in the next 24 hours or so on the store. Thanks

It's a donation, you choose.

Hi, the band will last a night. I didn’t try it often enough to experience a lucid dream, the material on the mask I used irritated my eyelids/skin so I still need to get around to mounting it on a more skin friendly mask

Hi, Muse is not suitable for clinical use simply because the voltage amplifiers they use just don't have the right ammount of signal to noise ratio and bit depth. They've managed to create something that works good enough for consumers and basic hypnograms etc at a lower cost. I think REM is more complicated than just looking at discreet brainwaves, I actually think looking at the raw brainwaves for signals like k-complex and sleep spindles is better, which is why machine learning algorythms based on the time series data tends to work very well.

@@majorinput4217 if machine learning works well then interaxon's algorithm would work well,which they dont,or not good enough... yes,it is that simple as looking at a graph,i have analyzed and learned from literally thousands of graphs and people and i have found the sleep and dreams patterns which work 100% of the time without mistake,but dont take my word for it,go to sleep and let mm record and then look at the graph and you will see the same exact patterns i showed you in the picture,and when you have lucid dreams you will see delta become dominant.... same as meditative states,the high delte and /or theta the deeper the experience,specially when they are on 2nd place right below alpha,and low gamma showing stillness of mind,every single time,the more you can still your mind the lower gamma will be.... i dont know who gave you the info about muse not being suitable for research but obviously thats not true coz there are tons of papers out there proving the muse1 is good enough for research,to a point where this neuroscientist who is pretty popular and even worked for nasa with the muse has compared it to a super expensive research grade EEG at his university which costs hundreds of thousands and said they both basically gave the same results > th-cam.com/video/AaJpk2w4JBc/w-d-xo.html

@@voodooparadox2513 Would you be so kind and upload results? Or make a video comperimg those two together.

@@PPP-on3vl good idea. I have slept with both about 4 weeks now. I’ll think about the best representation. Probably a confusion matrix. But I have to take one device as a reference. For instance the Dreem, while I know that the Dreem isn’t perfect either. Plus it might be hard to get the sleep data from the Muse, since it has no export function as far as I know.

@@voodooparadox2513 hi, did you share somewhere your results? If not, I have a python script which can extract muse data from nightly report screenshot. So, if you send them to me I will provide data for you or make a comparison to dreem if you include its data. In the times, when dreem2 is no longer available for purchase, it's vital to know how muse S is accurate since now it's the only good alternative. And I swear I searched the whole internet to answer to this question and finally have found someone who wore them at the same time and give some conclusion that at least sometimes muse S does exact sleep stages.

@@struggling1nstyle hi, can I have the python script? Curious to see the results. Really too bad Muse doesn’t have an export function like Dreem. If you grab the results from the Muse graph, it cannot be really exact. Their graph is so tiny.

I wore both while the Dreem app still worked (until Feb 2024) and the somnographs were virtually identical except for REM, which was always higher on the Dreem.