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Neuroscience of Consciousness: Past, Present and (Future) Potential
What are your thoughts on the history of consciousness science and the current mathematical / structural turn? Leave a comment below!
Cox & Dean, 2014 paper: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25247371/
Dr. Michael A. Cohen: www.amherst.edu/people/facstaff/mcohen
Dr. Cohen’s Gradual Change Blindness:th-cam.com/video/EARtANyz98Q/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MichaelCohen
H.M.: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Molaison
Memento:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_%28film%29
PubMed: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
Wikipedia on the History of Science: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science
Wikipedia on the Scientific Revolution: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Revolution
Dr. Gustav Fechner: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Fechner
Sir Karl Popper: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper
Wikipedia on (Radical) Behaviorism: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_behaviorism
Dr. Philip Goff: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Goff_%28philosopher%29
Dr. Goff’s book “Galileo’s Error”: www.amazon.com/Galileos-Error-Foundations-Science-Consciousness-ebook/dp/B07KNVQ6H5/ref=sr_1_1?crid=22Q9OS8SH5S24&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.INaJwN6Eh8qbpjAQCmU9GZE8_nOdJsayY7PR0MX77vOsryuIR3pAQP6edJWNQ9KpTxe0nYNZHN0u2JkgQVM9_kdlF2UjvxjLjzS36-9c_masaFGy341kslex_pPSMtkRlaODLJuY_9FOb1TShgAdL7WiE3QeeLzV0q08VAVXfk7XeNTFws4saJSYTN8rQ9YJIqtIKtTd878maYl-O7_vMlK_XVVw26rfdYT3VTI4mdQ.flxqN0RJcg61yRfHj__vs0aaj-noPLNt1lCvf7hhON0&dib_tag=se&keywords=galileo%27s+error&qid=1715553061&sprefix=galileo%27s+error%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-1
Dr. Itzhak Fried: bri.ucla.edu/people/itzhak-fried/
Dr. Rafi Malach: www.weizmann.ac.il/brain-sciences/labs/malach/group-members
Gelbard-Sagiv, … Fried & Malach, 2008 paper: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18772395/
direct link to movie from that paper: www.science.org/doi/suppl/10.1126/science.1164685/suppl_file/gelbard-sagiv1164685s1.revision.1.movie.mov
Dr. José Manuel Rodríguez Delgado:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Manuel_Rodr%C3%ADguez_Delgado
Dr. Kalanit Grill-Spector: psychology.stanford.edu/people/kalanit-grill-spector
Dr. Grill-Spector’s video on stimulating the brain’s face area in a human patient: th-cam.com/video/O7AQ8NjSnTo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=CognitiveNeuroscienceCompendium
Mr.T’s STEM TH-cam channel: www.youtube.com/@AnthonyTegtmeyer
Wikipedia on Discovery of Neptune: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_of_Neptune
How the Higgs Boson was found: www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-the-higgs-boson-was-found-4723520/
Association for Mathematical Consciousness Science: amcs-community.org/
Neural Basis of Consciousness YT channel: www.youtube.com/@neuralbasisofconsciousness
Mathematical Consciousness Science YT channel: www.youtube.com/@MCS_lectures
Consciousness Club Tokyo YT channel: www.youtube.com/@ConsciousnessClubTokyo
Models of Consciousness Conferences (YT channel): www.youtube.com/@models-of-consciousness
Wikipedia on 3D Color Space: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munsell_color_system
Deutsch et al., 2008 paper: deutsch.ucsd.edu/pdf/JASA-2008_124_589-597.pdf
Leopold et al., 2001 paper: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11135650/
Dr. Giulio Tononi: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giulio_Tononi
Intro to IIT's math video: th-cam.com/video/hoPkEgTHKMU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=AstonishingHypothesis
Dr. John Bell: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stewart_Bell
More on the Crisis in Cosmology: www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-possible-crisis-in-the-cosmos-could-lead-to-a-new-understanding-of-the-universe/
Dr. Imre Lakatos: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imre_Lakatos
Massimini et al., 2005 paper: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16195466/
Massimini et al., 2007 paper: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17483481/
Rosanova et al., 2013 (actually: 2012) paper: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22226806/
Ferrarelli et al., 2010 paper: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20133802/
Saris et al., 2015 paper: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26752078/
Haun & Tononi, 2019 paper: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7514505/
Dr. Marcello Massimini: www.unimi.it/en/ugov/person/marcello-massimini
Dr. Massimini’s talk: th-cam.com/video/YvUf3B-9FHw/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=HBPEducation
Dr. Eugene Wigner: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Wigner
Dr. Johannes Kleiner: jkleiner.de/
Kleiner, 2020 paper: scholar.google.com/scholar?oi=bibs&hl=en&cluster=1231516083584025880
honorable mentions:
inspo for the thumbnail: th-cam.com/video/d4PcVz2Vrtg/w-d-xo.html
Math-themed Thank You:
www.etsy.com/listing/400131963/thank-you-math-themed-thank-you-card
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New Mathematics for Higher Order Complex Systems: an introduction to higher arity computations
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links in chronological order: Carlos’ Homepage: czapatacarratala.wixsite.com/home/about Wolfram Institute: www.wolframinstitute.org/ SEMF: semf.org.es/ Wood chain model: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C58WYP93/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Borromean knot wooden model: www.amazon.com/Renococo-3-Link-Carved-Decorative-Country/dp/B09Z2BHJWF/ref=sr_1_6?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.g0e3TUMbeb_YE2...
How to detect and quantify higher order causal interactions in (neural) data using IIT 4.0
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please pardon the audio glitches throughout the video. links in chronological order: *principle investigators mentioned:* Nao Tsuchiya: sites.google.com/monash.edu/tlab/home?authuser=0 Nao’s TH-cam channel: www.youtube.com/@neuralbasisofconsciousness James Watson: jrwatson.ceoas.oregonstate.edu/people/ Giulio Tononi: www.psychiatry.wisc.edu/staff/tononi-giulio/ André Bastos: www.bastoslabvu.com...
Andrew Y. Lee on the Geometry of Consciousness
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Category Theory for Neuroscience (pure math to combat scientific stagnation)
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sources and references, in temporal order: Nature paper on the decline in disruptive science: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36599999/ Gordon Shepherd's book on the revolutionary 1950s "Creating Modern Neuroscience": www.amazon.com/Creating-Modern-Neuroscience-Revolutionary-1950s/dp/0195391500 Group theory, SU(3), hadrons, quarks and particle physics: tinyurl.com/quarksymmetry Alexander Unzicker's vid...
Is all of cortex conscious?
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Several of the lecture slides were donated or inspired by: Dr. Jeffrey D. Schall The Late Dr. Vivien Casagrande See below for a complete list of all books and papers that are explicitly mentioned in this talk (in serial order): Crick & Koch's (1995) Nature paper on why V1 is unconscious: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7753166/ Maier & Tsuchiya on attention being different from consciousness: pubmed.nc...
Can math solve the neuroscience of consciousness impasse?
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Consciousness is that which does not go away when you cease all thinking and behavior. Consciousness is tied to brain activity, but the exact link remains opaque. A lot of research into the connection between brain and consciousness has focused on neural activity that correlates with subjective experience (neural correlates of consciousness, or NCC). Due to several practical and conceptual prob...
Can math explain consciousness? #PaCE1
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Kenneth's blog: blankhorizons.com/
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  • @LBoomsky
    @LBoomsky 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    good video :o

  • @stephencarlsbad
    @stephencarlsbad 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Math can not measure or provide the logical blueprint for consciousness because consciousness is infinite. Taking a measurement is the same as framing something with limits and boundaries hence, infinity has no boundaries and can not be framed, measured or assigned boundaries. It's the same with spacetime measurements. These measurements offer a framed glimpse at spacetime however, there are hidden variables that prevent a complete measurement from being represented or observed. This means that spacetime itself is infinite making the measurement that was taken a framing of the infinite and not at all a complete measurement of the all.

  • @stephencarlsbad
    @stephencarlsbad 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Consciousness requires "free-choice will" meaning freedom to initiate and choose impulsively while showing a desire to complete an inner will or agenda that fulfils and satisfies something that possesses personal meaning to the chooser. Therefore, AI is not conscious in the same way that we are and will likely never be in our lifetimes because computer programs are not people. I know, it sounds overly simplistic and silly but it needs to be stated.

  • @Ch1Phenom
    @Ch1Phenom หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant!

  • @alejandromorera3241
    @alejandromorera3241 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very well explained! Thank you for sharing.

  • @masternmargarita
    @masternmargarita หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you know that the consumer of information is driven by the categorical imperative, then, given that the information must be acceptable to all mankind, it follows that the data that's needed is reduced to only the data that would be sufficient to provide information that's acceptable to all mankind. Here's what the above paragraph means: If you're an artificial consciousness and you know the general path to the discovery, then you don't have to traverse all other trillions of paths and you can get to the discovery a lot sooner.

  • @masternmargarita
    @masternmargarita หลายเดือนก่อน

    What does the asymptote on the right side represent? What do you think? x-axis = (Moral Egoism, 0) union [0, Moral Perfection) y-axis = (Hell, 0) union [0, Heaven) 0 = the Indifference point x is the independent variable, while y is the dependent variable x takes one parameter at a time from three possible: E, 0, P x's parameters are functions (Hell, 0) is the Injustice interval I [0, Heaven) is the Justice interval J f(E) = Moral Egoism = "Do that, which you want and can do." f(P) = Moral Perfection = "Do only that, which would be acceptable to all (mankind)." The Indifference point, 0, can also be expressed as, f(0) = "Do only that, for which all (mankind) would not want to punish you." It's also the threshold where morality has no net impact on circumstances. Thus, the Justice interval can also be expressed as, J = [f(0), f(P)) = ["Do only that, for which all (mankind) would not want to punish you," "Do only that, which would be acceptable to all (mankind).") Assuming justice is acceptable, while injustice is unacceptable because every reasonable human desires to continuously experience minimum injustice and maximum justice with respect to everything. We can plot this model too: arctanh(x) = ln[(1 + x)/(1 - x)]/2, |x| < 1 Above, I've presented the abstract functions for Moral Egoism and Moral Perfection. But here are general descriptions of these concepts: - Moral egoism is the normative position that moral agents ought to act in their own self-interest. It means that what is best for the individual is the highest morality. - Moral perfectionism is the conviction that human beings have a duty to aspire to moral perfection. It posits the pursuit of moral excellence as the ultimate goal of human life, as the path to physical perfection lies exclusively through moral perfection.

  • @meeranraees3183
    @meeranraees3183 หลายเดือนก่อน

    T

  • @TheAetherealMeadow
    @TheAetherealMeadow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this video and talk! The only nitpick I have is about the thought experiment with color qualia. The sets of relationships that define human color vision are part of a qualitative process- meaning, much like you explained in your video, consists of a set of qualitative relationships between each point in color space, which per the Yoneda Lemma, this means that each color is defined by its relation to other colors, thus meaning that no color could possibly be different than what it is, because it is defined by its relationship to other colors in color space. The thing about qualia is that it does not only involve qualitative processes- it involves the construction of qualitative processes, subjective processes, and distinction processes as well. I like to use the Duck-Rabbit illusion as an example of this. This is an example where a qualitative process (the empirical qualities of that image and how that pertains to how the photons enter the eye, optic nerve, etc.) takes on a new set of relationships because the subjective process (perception of the image) can impart distinction processes which create new sets of relationships where the subjective process and distinction process adds new sets of relationships to the diagram that involve the perception of the image one way or another from a subject. Since objects are defined by their relations, as per the Yoneda Lemma, this means that the changes between the relations between objects that can occur due to the perception of an image (not just seeing it) actually do change how that object (color) can be defined. Likewise, with color, things like different languages having different words for colors, or perceptual differences like synaesthesia, etc. may also contribute to additional subjective and distinction processes that can augment the sets of relationships between the qualitative process of the color space itself vs. any distinction processes resulting from its subjective perception. It's not to say that your statements about the rigorousness of the external qualitive process of human color space is incorrect- I 100% agree with you there. It's more so that I believe that these psychometrics can be augmented by other types of processes and relations besides just the qualitative ones, at least when it comes to qualia. I derive my reasoning from the compositional mathematics for subjective experience described in this paper. Most notably, the mathematical model proposed here contains a proof regarding the readability of the qualitative processes of others' experience, but the unreadability of others' subjective processes of experience- meaning that the inverse spectrum problem will never truly be answered, as per this mathematical model's postulates, at least. www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053810021000945#b0010

    • @astonishinghypothesis
      @astonishinghypothesis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's an interesting paper. Thanks for sharing! To your point (which is shared by many in this comment section). The counter point is to ask: what are these 'qualitative relations' that you postulate to exist in addition to the 'quantitative relations' when it comes to subjective color space? If you can make those concrete, we can just add them to the model (i.e., we add those 'qualitative' arrows to the 'quantitative' arrows), and the Yoneda lemma works exactly like it did before. So, even if that assumption were true, it does not change the logic of the argument. The concern, though, is that it seems difficult to point to what is 'missing' in a subjective color space that is described by 'quantitative' arrows. That is, the color space described by a singular metric - similarity judgments - seems to work just fine. Intuition might revolt at that, and demand that there is 'more', such as an 'intrinsic' quality to color or some kind of semantics. But Occam's razor asks for compelling justification for adding further assumptions. So, the ball is in the corner of the critique: if you believe that there is 'more' to color than metric color space, you will have to show what metric color space fails to explain. And, as a next step, you will have to be more concrete in explaining what exactly is missing: What is an 'intrinsic quality'? What are the missing relations? And the moment these are made concrete, we can just add them as arrows and apply the Yoneda lemma again. As a side note: It is arguable whether anything changes VISUALLY when Duck-Rabbit illusion changes interpretative meaning. That is, In terms of fundamental VISION, the illusion always looks the same. What changes is more like an inner voice saying "this is a rabbit". So, the change is more thought/cognition rather than phenomenal consciousness. Agnosias are a common example showing that these are dissociable mental functions: Certain brain lesions prevent people from making sense of what they see (i.e. they fail to identify a rabbit or a duck), but if you ask them to draw what they see, they create a perfect copy. Or imagine looking at a Jackson Pollock painting - you can see it, yet it will make no sense whatsoever. It is pure vision. This suggests that object recognition is secondary to phenomenal consciousness. You can have visual experiences without any semantics associated with them.

  • @houmous942
    @houmous942 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't get it. Why is the teacher not even credited? Unless he is the owner of this channel? It would be nice to at least know his name and affiliation, if only for a critical appreciation of the lecture.

    • @astonishinghypothesis
      @astonishinghypothesis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the search for truth, all that needs to be evaluated is what is being said, not who says it. So, this is a deliberate attempt of preventing credentialism and the fallacy of argument by authority. But, yes, same as owner of the channel.

    • @houmous942
      @houmous942 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@astonishinghypothesis This may be true for the specialists in the field, but certaintly not for us mere students who need to be able to confront various theories and understand what general line of reasoning is followed by what group/lab. We don’t have all the info and we can’t expect researchers, no matter how well-intentioned, to offer a fully neutral and impartial account. Even your lecture, which I found amazing by the way, is most probably biased and I need to have an idea of what kind of bias this could be, because I’m simply not equipped, as a student, to detect it based on just what you say. This is only fair. You probably used the same crutch as a student yourself, didn’t you?

  • @gylrivera
    @gylrivera 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sir do you even know what the word “ Consciousness “ means . Your definition is a language issue. Optimistic all sentient beings with a huge brain with 5 senses , ability to communicate will have some sort of understanding what consciousness means . There is no such thing as “non consciousness “to a sentient being .

  • @dean532
    @dean532 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *ahem for those from outer-space or cyber-space @ 16:57 he meant "functional"

  • @alejrandom6592
    @alejrandom6592 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lsd breaks axiom #5. There is no boundary to consciousness

  • @alejrandom6592
    @alejrandom6592 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Intelligence doesn't imply consciousness. Ego doesn't imply consciousness.

  • @alejrandom6592
    @alejrandom6592 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    28:29 something about complex numbers in quantum mechanics

  • @alejrandom6592
    @alejrandom6592 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    23:50 💀💀💀💀

  • @danschofield5068
    @danschofield5068 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for sharing!

  • @James-ll3jb
    @James-ll3jb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Money. Death of intellectual integrity. Nihilistic decadence. Read Nietzsche

  • @ryiv1848
    @ryiv1848 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    beautiful presentation!

  • @user-wr4yl7tx3w
    @user-wr4yl7tx3w 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow. This really motivates me to understand CT further.

  • @andrejmajstorovic1437
    @andrejmajstorovic1437 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is pivotal

  • @rubncarmona
    @rubncarmona 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    congrats on the presentation and work! very exciting stuff

  • @logitfau252
    @logitfau252 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thats such a facinating approach, ty for explaining it in such an understandable way :D

  • @Self-Duality
    @Self-Duality 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ternary networks, or “3-way interactions which cannot be reduced to pairwise sub-interactions”, are self-dual 😌💭 Excellent work, Carlos!

  • @kellymoses8566
    @kellymoses8566 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After 100 years it really seems like the only REAL advancement in our understanding of the human brain is that we can say "we have no idea how the human brain works" in ever more complicated ways.

  • @CourtneyCramer-c8s
    @CourtneyCramer-c8s 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great lecture.

  • @eofirdavid
    @eofirdavid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know that if some quantity grows "fast" it doesn't mean that it grows exponentially? There is an actual mathematical meaning to this term. These graphs look more linear or at most quadratic. This is only two minutes in, which is quite disappointing for a talk about "Category Theory for Neuroscience". I will give it a couple more minutes hoping that it improves.

  • @chennebicken372
    @chennebicken372 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This distorted sphere, does this come from measured data? Is that distorted sphere similar for all brains? Is there a noticeable uncertainty? Is it proven, that there is no way for this mathematically vaguely defined distorted sphere to be isomorphic to a flipped version of itself? It's not the same. It's isomorphic. And this color space maybe can be isomorphic to another ordering of the color spectrum.

  • @chennebicken372
    @chennebicken372 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isn't being isomorphic the same as being the same up to names. That means, things have the same structure. But then in the "practical example" the same is the same you? I don't really like this isomorphic =: same abstraction. Because it's not about equality.

  • @hyperduality2838
    @hyperduality2838 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cause (thesis) is dual to effect (anti-thesis) -- Hegel. Integrating information is a syntropic process -- teleological. Concepts are dual to percepts -- the mind duality of Immanuel Kant. "Always two there are" -- Yoda.

  • @CasperVanLaar
    @CasperVanLaar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah nah, this mathematical theory is missing something imo. Can't put my finger on it, tho. Maybe it has something to do with the axioms. Idk. Very interesting tho.

  • @Matixcubix
    @Matixcubix 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am not convinced. Really shallow theory...

  • @futurehistory2110
    @futurehistory2110 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also, it's very out there but what if consciousness is inevitably existence experience itself resulting in all conscious experiences being that of existence itself and then existence breaks this up into a linear subjective timeline (i.e. 'we', 'us', existence itself experiences itself and goes through various lives).

  • @futurehistory2110
    @futurehistory2110 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sometimes I wonder if what really exists is conscious experience in its own right and as discussed in this video, these conscious experiences are integrated creating the illusion of the self. Note, not an illusion of consciousness but conscious experiences exist and they create the self, with that being the illusion.

  • @futurehistory2110
    @futurehistory2110 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Consciousness is an incredible thing. One thing that's so mysterious is that it does not appear to be a part of objective reality and yet our own experience of it proves that it exists. If you say that your consciousness does not exist then you are not experiencing yourself reading this right now - disagreeing with that statement requires consciousness (and we get back to 'I think therefore I am'). I suppose either this is part of objective reality (our conscious experience) but in a way that we do not understand or we need to expand linguistics and concepts of 'existence'.

  • @kamalmichael
    @kamalmichael 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good grief. If you are really saying ,switching on things in a certain way ,gives you the colour red ? Well lets switch on a similar set of switches in a computer and let it experience the colour red. Better still , lets print out the code , the moment the computer experiences red, so we can claim the code on the paper is experiencing red.

  • @DavidG2P
    @DavidG2P 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This technocratic approach tells us exactly nothing about consciousness. Consciousness is an emergent property of every autopoietic (i.e. self-sustaining/self-recreating = living) system and precisely emerges from the reduction of complexity (i.e., perception, representation) between the infinitely complex environment to the relatively few perceptions, i.e. to the model-building, that is necessary for autopoietic self-preservation and survival. These perceptions or models also include system-internal (i.e., within-the-body) processes, thus forming a self-representation contained in the representation of the environment. This is the definition of consciousness. One of the simplest organisms that has consciousness (i.e. a model of itself inside a model of its environment, thus a perception of itself) is a single living cell.

  • @TruthWielders
    @TruthWielders 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's not how neuron work, and you can't us "logic" to combine information that's analog in essence, you are so confuse about the brain ! This is just a curious tentative projection of digital computing onto a neural network, you can't go backward like that with analog information. Look for Hebb rule if you want to understand neurons ! Not reducible to what you present. Essentially, one thing that is not reproduced in your model, beside not being analog, is “any two cells or systems of cells that are repeatedly active at the same time will tend to become 'associated,' so that activity in one facilitates activity in the other”. Real neurons have a potential excitation (sensitivity) different for each incoming dendrites and this potential is modified following Hebb's rule ! If an input dendrite is active when an output is generated, the dendrite sensitivity is increased, and conversely decreased when they are not active at the same time. Your model does not represent learning, just a finished unchanging network. Sadly unproductive mathematically because the 'objects' are not represented correctly, sorry. Moreover, you have not demonstrated how you use it to get any results.

  • @TruthWielders
    @TruthWielders 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Somebody intent at DEFINING consciousness for a start ????? I have not seen ONE definition that makes sense yet ? You don't have a "solid starting point" as you say, if you don't give a comprehensive definition, as is done in mathematics ! Start over ! It doesn't make any sense like this ! BTW, it seems to me that IIT just another (fancy) name for cognition !

  • @Mandibil
    @Mandibil 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A descripton of X can never be X ... IIT is useless

  • @schleuer.
    @schleuer. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guy talks so fast I thought my video was at 1.5x speed

  • @adammcgregor-d3y
    @adammcgregor-d3y 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zero interest. Come back when you can actually make a prediction that can be tested.

  • @chitaozinhodoextrativismo4108
    @chitaozinhodoextrativismo4108 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting presentation, but actually yonedas lemmas still doesn't solve the problem with qualia

  • @event151
    @event151 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Information should not be use as axiom. There is definition of informatrion from prof. Marian Mazur and this definition is generalized by phd Jozef Kossecki in general quality theory of information. All of them is described in math properly.

  • @eqapo
    @eqapo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But what's it gonna cost me?

  • @danielbrockerttravel
    @danielbrockerttravel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you familiar with the philosophies of Martin Heidegger and Ludwig Wittgenstein? Heidegger was interested in the meaning of being and Wittgenstein was interested in the philosophy of language. They operated very independently of one another but interestingly converged on ideas very similar to what you mentioned here with the Yoneda Lemma. Wittgenstein argued that a private language would be impossible to learn. And your argument on color perception is a more precisely stated version Wittgenstein's private language argument. I want to go even further than you here. The universe is inherently meaningful because of its networked nature. Meaning is the relationship between a node and the network it is embedded in. And this holds true for all levels of nature. Being is the internal structure of a node (its existence) plus the relationship it has with the network it's embedded in. For this reason, meaning and being are intertwined with one another. I refer to this geometry as 'Situatedness.' Information is the signaling of Situatedness. Learning and knowledge are the storage and remembering of Situatedness. Meaning makes information possible, which in turn makes life possible, which in turn makes intelligence possible, which in turn makes consciousness possible. In other words, meaning makes information possible, not the other way around.

  • @danielbrockerttravel
    @danielbrockerttravel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this. Had never heard of this test.

  • @rmcgraw7943
    @rmcgraw7943 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe we do know that some animals are aware of Self, and self-awareness is a trait that is attributed to consciousness. The way we determine is to take chalk and put a mark on the animals head or elsewhere on their body, then show them a mirror and if they reach for the chalk mark on their own body, then we know that they are self-aware. Elephants, monkeys, and many other animals have passed this test, but not all and not most; however, this is buy one method and other methods might reveal more accurate results. For instance, this test cant work for fish, as chalk would wash off. Also, this test could be passed by repetition and a learned pattern recognition rather than self-awareness. However, elephants for one pass this test the first time, before any pattern knowledge is instilled in them.

    • @astonishinghypothesis
      @astonishinghypothesis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is true. And yet: We know that even very sophisticated behavior that implied self-awareness can occur without consciousness. A good example of that would certain kinds of sleep walking, where you can even converse with someone who is commonly believed to be in an unconscious, zombie-like state (e.g., academic.oup.com/sleep/article/32/12/1637/2454360). On the flip side, human infants fail the mirror test up until they are two years old, but it would be difficult to argue that a two year old toddler is unconscious. tl;dr: complex behavior, including very convincing signs of self awareness, and consciousness can be (double) dissociated.

  • @denizcanbay6312
    @denizcanbay6312 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the colour absorption spectrum was symmetrical the result would be the opposite. I do not see how one would need category theory to come to this conclusion and would be very happy if someone could shed some light on this. it is quite obvious even with simple logic following. Going further with asymmetrical colour absorption spectrum, the result still would be different if we do not "assume" individuals who might have inverted spectrum still have the same colour absorption/perception with the ones who do not have inverted. If inverted spectrum people also have different absorption, we still can not differentiate them. Another note is that this makes it possible for everyone to have different vision since we might have continuously different colour spaces with a corresponding absorption spectrum such that the distances between the colours are always the same for everyone.

    • @astonishinghypothesis
      @astonishinghypothesis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The most common counter argument is that color perception is not the same as perception of electromagnetic wavelength. These two processes can be double dissociated, and hence are orthogonal: For example, there are different wavelengths of light that look the same (metamers), and there are colors that do not map onto any wavelengths such as pink, brown, or any neon colors (there are many more such "impossible colors"). Visual illusions that work on color demonstrate that we can even see color for gray or black and white stimuli.

    • @denizcanbay6312
      @denizcanbay6312 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @astonishinghypothesis Thank you for your response, this tells me that wawelenght and colour perception is a nonlinear mapping. So the question is still the same actually, is there only 1 possible nonlinear map for everyone to have? I think there might be infinitely many mappings that satisfy the same properties(distance of colours etc.. whatever is necessary). If there is only 1 possible way that means there is little to no room for an error, and the neurons resposible for this mapping does not change for a lifetime after those neurons are set possibly before we born. People live 80 -100 years and it is counterintiutive to think that those neurons are uneffected no matter what life throws at us :)

  • @travisporco
    @travisporco 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's stopping someone from creating some strange meaningless dynamical system with a huge number of interacting nodes, that has a large phi, but is not representing anything about the world or interacting with any external stimuli?

    • @Karlswebb
      @Karlswebb หลายเดือนก่อน

      It wouldn’t have a large phi unless information is being integrated into believe.

    • @phillustrator
      @phillustrator 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's exactly Scott Aaronson's critique of the theory. He also showed that Phi would be greater for an error correcting code than a human. Tononi shot himself in the foot and said yeah, a bunch of stacked transistors doing nothing and an error correcting code are more conscious than a human.