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Nur weil da ein Kreuz ist, muss das rein gar nichts mit der Kirche zu tun haben. Wenn wir von physikalischen Sachen ausgehen, wäre das das Symbol für die Zeit. In dem Codex geht es hauptsächlich um Physik genauso wie im Voynich. Es wäre interessant, was ihr davon schon entschlüsselt habt an Wörtern.

Ja wenn man nur von der einzelnen Sprache ausgeht. Der Verfasser benutzt aber viele europäische Sprachen. Ausser Englisch und Französisch. Ausserdem bei den Abbildungen der "Sternenbilder" die keine sind ,benutzt er das physikalische Alphabet. Bei dem tanzenden Paar steht also Homa. Seite 166. Physikalisch harmonischer Oszillator. Dann haben wir noch Zeichen wie Interferenz Maxima, Gamma, Omega u d vieles mehr. Das ganze Buch ist ein Bauplan. Passt halt bloß nicht in die Zeit. Auf der ersten Seiite erster Absatz rechts steht agalandea. Einfach mal teilen in a ga land ea und übersetzen lassen. Da haben sie ihre Info .

We still publish tons of books on astrology and gender theory - so don’t discount human ability to spend tons of time/money on completely unscientific works of fantasy.

If he was an Alchemist then most likely he used and drank strange "brews" , I'm sure this would lead to an insane mind like a person who used LSD . It's a well known fact that moldy rye grain or bread has caused many delusional "head trips " . IMO ❤️

I think this video is fundamentally wrong because it treats Voynichese as a functional, distinct language. If it was a distinct language, we would definitely have more examples of its writing. It is extremely unlikely that the only example of the writing of some unknown language spoken by atleast 4 learned writers in Europe in the early 1400s would only be found in some alchemical text. Voynichese is a complex cipher designed to keep the knowledge of the writers hidden from the uninitiated. We don't know how it works, but it lacking the characteristics of a written language is not uncommon for cipher alphabets.

What do the n-gram probabilities/entropy look like if only the the initial character of each word is used as tokens? Like if doing 3-gram, "the quick brown" - > (t, q, b)

Stupid, and a gay.

A long time ago I was told that this was the work of a very intelligent self-educated Lithuanian woman. Women weren't properly educated back in these days, this may be the work of someone who was taught adjacently maybe just from listening

Could it not be for words, but for music?

I downloaded a pdf of the manuscript in highschool and found a similar number of letters, and I think that killed any hope I had of cracking it. I thought it might've been a common language being written in a cypher script, but it seemed pretty unlikely after discovering that.

I believe that this was a journal. Analysis has shown up to 5 authors. My belief is that a person with multiple personalities dew the pictures, then wrote around them in their own private "language" . Mental disorders have always existed.

Its interesting to see how so many can't read it and even the methods to attempt to read it 😂😂😂 . But when you know you know.

I still stand by my theory that this was just a highly schizophrenic scribe who wrote an entire book of nonsense. I’d do that if I was a scribe speaking to the trees who tell me the wisdom of the cosmos while psyched up on some ergot. It’s impossible that in all of human history that some crazy but functional guy DIDN’T write a book of nothing in their free time, hell I’m certain there’s someone out there doing the same thing in the present, but today nobody would care.

I mean honestly when I was bored in highschool I filled up a notebook out of my own writing system with my own strange thoughts and quirks, lots of stuff that didn’t really mean anything. This manuscript gives me the identical vibes as looking at my old notebook. I’m going with just a scribes personal eclectic notebook or advanced schizophrenia.

How many actually unique words are there in the manuscript once you collapse all the letters down this way?

I bought a hardcover full colour version and I just can’t stop reading it. It feels like something I’m not supposed to see let alone have a copy in my hand.

Forgetting about decoding the manuscript for a moment, has anyone produced a Markov model of Voynichese words, to see the structure, and just for the lols?

It has to be an old Romani dialect or cipher. It's also nearly impossible for outsiders to read for a reason. A very insular people, persecuted since well before then. And it may well be a hoax, for entirely those same reasons, but I'm still willing to bet it's 15th century Roma.

My wife had an interesting theory… that the original author was female!? That it was kept secret and hidden from authorities or men out of fear and if it were to be discovered it’s written in code… the actual size of the original supports that idea. 🤷‍♂️

Bit of a non sequitir but are you Dutch?

It feels like Procrustes distance would be a good way to analyse this, but I don't know enough about Voynich to know if that would even tell you anything you don't already know.

"Giant hands kind of caressing the architecture, an understandable sentiment" is my favorite new sentence.

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I think you really do have something important though. The writer could credibility be assumed to be from somewhere in Italy. The simplified text may represent another language as an Italian would hear it. Hawaiian for instance uses English as a base for what is a completely different language. Chinese pinyin was created by the Portuguese and while English speakers understand it the letter choices can seem odd. It has been commented that manuscript has a “Latin-ish” flavor. Could that be because it’s an Italian derived synthesis?

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I think the most interesting part of this is that focusing text decipherment onto 2 closely related languages (Italian and/or Latin as spoken/written in the early 15th century) cuts out a lot of the wildest guesswork in how to even approach that decipherment. There remains an issue of regional dialects, and I'm not sure how the diversity of them compares to today. And, of course, that doesn't leave out the possibility of it simply being from another language entirely, whether by a foreigner in Italy or someone not in Italy (that one Bavarian manuscript is a fascinating outlier). I don't recall if this would count as new information, but, to the extent that it's veridical, it makes for a helpful pointer, surely.

So it's nonsense?

Moscow was razed to the ground and completely rebulit after Napoleon's invasion.

I read a fair bit about the Manuscript and watched a few documentaries in my younger years and got very bored of the topic because almost every source I found just talked about the same subject over and over that I was beginning to think it was a novelty or at worst a grift. Genuinely so relieved to know there's far, far more to learn from it.

Why do you have a arrow pointing fake at the guy in the middle on your is the voy fake video thumbnail? hes wearing a traditional uzebeck headress. ms402 is filled with men and women wearing similar head dress. you shouldnt point fake arrows at people when you have no idea yourself. it makes me feel that your ignorant, possibly racist and probly not the best person to be making videos about this topic

all this info comes from the research of a man named Sukhwant Singh. Hes very proud of his culture and heritage. his video th-cam.com/video/wmvmSCd2Jg0/w-d-xo.html gives VERY explicit details of every part of ms402. SPOILER!!! the page at :43 is a map of Bukhara Uzebekistan. the fort you mention is the arc fortress. foundations laid in 4th-3rd centuries BC and rebuilt and destroyed many times. Ghengis Khan fully destroyed and ransacked Killed all the citizens hiding there in the 13th century. It was rebuilt again in the 16th by the shaybanid dynasty. SPOILER!!! :42 SECONDS. THE STYLIZED ARROW AT THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE PAGE POINTS TO MECCA. so get a map and draw a line from mecca to uzebeck and it lies in the same direction. once you watch his video youll see EVERY YOU KNOW ABOUT MS402 IS WRONG

Eurocentrism? In my Viennan Imperial Library? I't's more likely than you'd think.

Great research, very rigorous.

I always figured that it was by somebody who was illiterate but trying to pass themselves off as educated. Like someone wealthy commissioned a history book to be made and the person they hired basically scammed them. Most people of the day wouldn't have been able to tell that it was gibberish.

I think it was a hoax to fool a wealthy book collector looking for something "mysterious".

Honestly, I dont mind one way or the other. It's just so nutty, I'd love it if was published last year.

This is my first time hearing about this manuscript.

Maybe you can have an accuracy system ex we know there there, probable, worth considering

From what little I know about Medieval manuscript production Northern Italy was generally a very productive region so that makes the possibility of the Voynich Manuscript being a medieval hoax or prank more plausible. Are you ever going to make a video about those theories or are they just not interesting enough to devote a video to?

I know the data is strictly inconclusive, but given the shared merchant in Venice and the similar style illustrations in their manuscripts, im inclined to think it was made in Venice, possibly even by that merchant.

9:28 aah, Silvio Berlusconi's house.

Damn ancients, yall crazy

Its almost certainly a fake created by a con artist in historical times.

Presumably the illustrator who gave Sodom swallowtail battlements was a supporter of the Guelphs…

Been watching your stuff for a while, and I can’t stress enough how impressed I am by the quality of your content in regards to this topic, not to mention the variety of things you’ve been able to talk about in relation to the manuscript. Castle architecture would not have been on my list of things you could discuss in relation to the voynich manuscript.

too much hype for fake texts

This young woman identified all the plants in the manuscript years ago, but I never see her work mentioned anywhere. th-cam.com/video/NgrPxvGzrhQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0vHjy7AbGcEPvV2F

Which is why it resembles numbers rather than words. My only other explanation is chant.

Present day Ukraine? In what time era? In just 22 years of history (1991-2014)? In Middle Ages it was tatars khan kingdom, then osmans, which always makes fights with slavs. That was built during osmans i presume.

Is not holding up a church the symbol of patronage? You know, ktetors?