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Internal hex cutting with the Brother HS300 - Setup & cutting
Cutting a 17 mm hex in a brass bushing. The bushing is a replacement part for a lathe.
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Hi, can you email me I would like a price on a hub made thanks.
How did you find so old machine? And what about programming? Now you can find EDM machines Agie , Fanuc, Solid Works + D-CAM for programming. These are the components of the complex. They are very convenient to work with.
Ebay is your friend. Simple programs I code on the machine, for more complex stuff I use Fusion with a slightly modificated Fanuc PP. If at some point I will buy another wire EDM I´m pretty sure it will be a late 1990s or early 2000s machine, so not that much newer.
No finish passes?
Is so retro with this anlog green display what EDM machine are?
What is the time saved compared to making the exact same gear and keyway using traditional techniques of broaching etc with the same accuracy, finish and tolerances?
The gear has 71 teeth. 71 is a prime number so the gear cant be milled with a standard dividing head.
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Another advantage of this method is, it doesn't matter if the material is hardened or not, it cuts the same.
I would say; the harder and "pure" material the better (the machining).
How long did it take to make it
Wire electroerosion with water (WEDM). It is a process of cutting metal, extremely slow, but highly precise.
Hi there, I have one this HS-300 EDM and I'm trying to find a way to load programs from the computer? How are you doing it on yours?
I use Brother COMS on an antique laptop that has a serial port. On practical machinist you find a lot of information about the machine.
I now have the same model and have rebuilt most of it, the last thing I need to do is align the heads, I have the tool, but it seems to be all over the place.. any pointers?
The alignment tool for the machine works quiet well in my mind? For rough aligning I use a square on the table as a reference.
@@flo_5235 I figured it out, I had to wait for solid lights and ignore the flickers. I set steps to 5 or 10 (in inches mode) and walk it in until one light is solid, then reset x2 to clear my read out and see how far off I am. Can also adjust a little. Key is to jog away then come back to the reset x2 position with steps, adjusting until both lights are solid in 1 or 2 steps.
Just got this same machine, your videos are very helpful.
how much time does it takes ?
5 Minutes/tooth, so about 6 hours for the complete gear wheel
they need to change the CONT to "computer unified network tool" lol
Does this machine have u/v axis or cut taper at all? What year is it? Cool old machine. We have a 1987 sodick WEDM at work.
Its built in 1990. Unfortunatelly it don´t have a U/V axis. There are small brother machines which come with a U/V axis but they are pretty rare and you can not flood the workpiece on these machines. Thats the reason why I sometimes search for a small WEDM which can cut tapers with submerged workpiece.
@@flo_5235 cool machine. The college I attend just sold a brother at auction for about nothing. It had taper and submerged, but it was a little bit newer. I wish I would have realized that it was going to go so cheap, I would have gotten in on the auction. It went for like 2200 bucks.
It was nice to see beginning to the end. Can you provide more detail on what the changes to edm dettings were done and why?
For roughing I want the spark energy setting as high as possible so I have the highest possible material removal rate. If the spark energy is set to high the wire is breaking. With the spark cycle setting I can influence the spark energy a little bit. If I lower the spark cycle the spark energy tends to get a little more aggressive, If i raise the spark cycle the spark energy tends to gets lower. Then you increase or decrease the feed rate so the available power meter shows a good reading. Now the machine should rough the part as fast as possible without a wire breakage. For finishing the data sheets whitch came with the machine gives you the settings for surface finish xy. In this case the settings for spark energy and spark cycle are experience values for a medium good surface finish. The feed rate is again set by the reading of the available power meter.
@@flo_5235 Thank you for the details!
Good job and nice machine! How hard is it to learn EDM with no experience in it? When you allready have a cnc mill and lathe at the homeworkshop... Is there information about speed and other parameters available out there? Kind regards Barry
Well, writing code and setting up a part is quite similar to a cnc mill. The EDM part is a little bit different. Older machines came with a lot of data sheets where you get the settings for the material you want to cut. The settings also depends on the material thickness you want to cut, the surface roughness you want to get and the wire you use. On newer machines you say the control ´I want to cut material x with thickness y and the surface roughness should be quite good´ and the machine gives you a few options of cutting settings which should work. All the settings from the data sheets or the control are recommendations, you have to finde the best settings for your actual part by your self. And this is trial and error and/or a lot of experience. Not super hard to learn but sometimes very annoying if you have to thread the wire for the 10000 time because your EDM settings are still not good or your part has a weird shape with is harder to cut than flat stock or something. By the way, the manual for the Brother machine is excellent, it´s a full how to do things with this machine. On the other side there is the manual for my Charmilles die sinker. It´s more like ´So you got a die sinker, good luck´.
Thanks for your reply! So learning by doing. I have a few other projects to finish first, but an EDM is definitely on my wish list. @@flo_5235
Did your camera experience water problems? Hope it's not that bad. Thanks for taking us along and showing this method of machining! Cheers 👍💪✌
I film with my old smartphone and it seems like it don´t like to be in the water for quite a time. In the last part of the video where I check the fit of the hex with a gage you can see the first weird stripes in the video footage. This get´s a lot more worse in the rest of the video footage. So yes, the camera experience water problems.
If there's one thing i wish modern machines would've kept as it was, it's the available power gauge. It somehow feels wrong to not have it "analogue". :))
there was no need to probe the bore a second time. the part was located via the slipfit pins
Better safe than sorry.
Just found one of these with the exact same 'ring' on the CRT, not sure what causes that :) Also what is the largest wire you can run on the HS300 ?
The largest wire guide I can get over here is for 0,3 mm wire, the smallest for 0,2 mm wire. I have guides for 0,2 and 0,25 mm wire but I only use 0,25 mm wire.
@@flo_5235 I think I will use .010/.25mm wire here. Machine shows up tomorrow :)
does this have auto wire?
No, the wire has to be threaded by hand
Doesn't have a venturi water jet to suck the wire down like a Mits?
No
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What is the voltage and or amperage to make these cuts and the fluid, plain water or a mixture? Thanks!
I have a chart which gives you a code for the programm which calls the different EDM settings. They depend on electrode size, workpiece and electrode material and the surface finish you want to get with the last setting. The chart don´t give you accurate numbers for voltage and amperage, for roughing the amperage should be about 10 A in this case. The fluid is a dielectric oil, the machine came with oelheld Ionoplus IME-ET.
@@flo_5235 Amazing how it can gouge metal like that. Thanks for the answer and description of the details!
Add picture at the end showing finished part? :)
Would have been a great idea ;) Changed the video slightly and reupload it. I will delete this video in a few days.
What would you say the surface roughness of this gear must have come out to be?
Your best quality cut parameters? Speed 500 Spark cycle 30 Spark energy 6 Wire speed 8 Wire tension 10 Water 5 Spark rate 10 For me
Spark energy 5 (or even 4 on thin materials) spark cycle 35. Good surface finish but also super slow if there is too much finishing allowance. So an intermediate finishing cut with approximately your values maybe is faster. Speed depends on material thickness, about 90% on the availabile power meter seems ok for a good finishing cut. Wire speed also depends on material thickness. On thicker materials the cut gets a little bit tapered with wire speed 8, so maybe 9 oder 10 is the way to go.
To what accuracy is the profile machined ?
I dont know, good enough for the purpose.
Why wouldn’t you cut the gear out of a larger piece? You could set it up press start and walk away.
Well the raw material was round stock.
Sorry Mr Flo. Where do you is buy the clamps tool round with divisor?
It´s shopmade.
@@flo_5235 i have the same machine from 2 weeks. I see in command mode 2 offset. In the program is possible to insert H1 (off1) and H2 for the second. Is possible to change the speed in the program with Fxxxxx, but for change the current o other? Example: cut 1: H1 Fxxxx (first cut) Cut 2: H2 Fxxxx but not change the current o other? For finish cut?
Hello can you send the soft brocomm?
Is it works with granite or glass too?
No, the workpiece has to be conductible
Very cool
Pretty cool vid but a couple things 1 the time to set the machine each time 2 waste wire having to thread wire in to center then cut the wire and thread it again to do the cut Is it possible to use a small rod of sorts like a 5mm tig electrode and put it in for centering and initial setup as long as the ends were fine enough points and centered and just adjust the program to take into consideration of the larger diameter of the rod that way you can do 3 things at once 1 reduce scrap and waste wire 2 reduce setup times 3 confirm the arms are lined up as the rod won’t bend and if top or bottom of the rod are not touching the Material when centering you know a arm is out of alignment I’m assuming the idea of threading the wire through the center is to run a charge through the wire and price and when they connect and complete the circuit it knows that’s an edge and makes it’s center point based on where forward back left and right meet material edges so a larger rod shouldn’t affect it as long as the rod is center The idea comes from things like large micrometers where in order to make sure they are calibrated correctly you have to have a precise spacer to make sure the measurements are correct
What is the cutting speed for aluminum job? Rough cut? Thanks
Cutting speed depends on the material thickness
hello can you gave me you email i want to know price of EDM thread and more information
What is the thickness of this metal ?
About 15 mm
Hey Flo, this is very impressive! My Formula Student Team is desperately looking for somebody who can help them manufacturing their planetary gear set for their first electric race car. No manufacturer seems interested in making prototypes.
Really cool process! Wouldn't it have been better to have the profiles in the opposite order though, so that the finishing pass has the most rigid position, closest to the probe?
Yes! That's exactly what I was thinking as i had cut this big hole for probing in the electrode.
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Does the finishing electrode orbit/helix/circle around the shaft (I am guessing it is oversized since it drops down without eroding anything)? How would you go about preventing marking the bottom face?
None of the electrodes orbits around the shaft. The finishing electrode drops down so far without eroding is because the oversize between semi fininishing and finishing isn´t enough. The same for roughing and semi finishing but not that much. Some flushing around the electrode should prevent the marking on the bottom face and maybe save some wear on the roughing electrode. I have to play arround with that kind of setup a little bit but thats why I tried this out.
@@flo_5235 So you mean the semi finishing electrode only left a bit of tapper from wear towards the bottom? So the errosion starts only at the closest part of a tappered wall even if it is going to end up cutting further than it (the top of the finishing electrode didn't seem to be sparking in the beginning of the cycle)? PS: Amazing work nonetheless. Thank you for taking the time to make videos of it!
Thanks a lot! Yes, exactly. The plan was that the finishing electrode would burn all the way down too but there wasn´t enough stock left (except the corners where the semi finishing electrode wears). As the spark gap changes with different EDM settings (roughing, semi finishing, finishing) its not that easy to find the right oversizes between the electrodes. To much oversize and the erosion takes far to long and the semi finsihing and finsihing electrode wear more than necessary, to little oversize and the semi finsihing and finishing electrode don´t have material to work with and the surface finish on the part is bad (as in my case). Just my thougts, I´m not 100% sure if this is correct.
...Thanks fo videos!