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One suggestion would be to try Lion's Head first. If you feel OK with that then India Venster could be OK

Haha - well, to go through Oldham, at least. And plenty more to enjoy around Dovestone: Birchen Clough for the more adventurous, Holme Clough and Chew Brook are more Charnel's level

Thanks! Happy scrambling! If you want another good starter scramble for kids in the same area, I'd suggest Charnel Clough

For some other good (in some cases better) introductory scrambles, you can take a look at: grade1scrambler.org/peak-district-scrambles/

Maybe more atmospheric than in good weather!

Thank you! Agree on the route out - hence why I've included in the video: I was lucky to first go with someone who pointed out the direct route down by the fence. I've done it a few times now in a variety of seasons plus as a night scramble last week and haven't actually found much difference in terms of challenge (and you're right that shortness helps along with being an enclosed not exposed route), though of course it's a bit miserable when it's raining. Thoroughly recommend as a night scramble on dry, windless night - it was a highlight of my year

Especially if it's too windy / wet / cold for ridge scrambles, then clough scrambles come into their own

Thanks and welcome

Good suggestion - thanks!

Agreed! Definite sense that grade 1 in Snowdonia or the Lakes is equivalent to grade 2 in the Peaks. I'm looking forward to going back to Oaken Clough after heavy rains: that might be a proper grade 2 experience!

Personally, I always prefer up because I can see where I'm putting my feet; I find going down quite a bit harder and also riskier

Next time for the harder escape route 😁 And by coincidence I did Oaken Clough for the first time yesterday: thought it would be too difficult but, as you say, actually a really nice scramble though I'm guessing a more interesting proposition after heavy rains

@@Grade1Scrambler the book says one of the finest days out linking Oaken Clough with Wilderness Gully East. Definitely on my hit list! 👍

@@Codzilla71 That's exactly what we did! Bit of a trudge there and back over the tops but well worth it. Went with the Facebook group, Scrambling Crew - you should join

Thanks: I'd not come across Crinkle Gill. Looks like you had a beautiful day for it. What grade would you say it is?

@@Grade1Scrambler I would personally say Grade 2, but I'm not qualified to be accurate. Microspikes and safety hat are essential like. Let me know if you give it go, or fancy company up there.

@@Grade1Scrambler another one I think you will enjoy is Tarncrag Gill. Search: Route 21 - Tarn Crag via Tarncrag Gill

@@richardjennings2708 Don't know if trying a grade 2 would be allowed if I'm supposed to be a grade 1 scrambler 😄 Did you use microspikes for non-ice/snow? And, yes, will follow up with you, thanks

@@Grade1Scrambler ha ha 😆 Yes, definitely use microspikes on this one.

I suspect that right bank footpath is even worse now: as I say in the video, climbing the waterfall seemed a better option! And if you took the chimney option, you're braver then me - though probably more fun that the rather dull grade 1 exit I took

If my memory is serving me correctly i recall two lines up that outcrop. I picked the essier of the two. It does look a bit dramatic from below but i remember there being no real feeling of exposure once in there ( and i am rather exposure averse )and good blocky holds for hands and feet. Quite an interesting finish to the main clough. The only real thing holding me back from going ,especially with all the rain at the moment , is that afforementioned path up there….

@@kurt3306 Interesting - thanks for that: I'll give it a closer look-see next time I'm there

The ones above Chew Brook - I've done two of the grade 1 gullies which is nos. 5 and 8 (if you have the Scrambles in the Dark Peak book) plus an un-numbered one to the west of gully 5. They are straightforward Grade 1 and easy enough to do in a couple of hours; going down either via Chew Reservoir to the east or Chew Green to the west - though the thistles are a pain in summer! Charnel also a nice Grade 1 with blocks and boulders (and no thistles)

1.5mm sticks in my head though I can't find that anywhere online - but that looks about right: 1.5/2mm-ish. I bought them one size bigger than my shoe size and that means I can easily wear 3mm neoprene socks inside - I was out in freezing conditions with ice on the water and able to stay out for at least three hours in and out of the water (though my feet were cold by the end). The other ones I know of are La Sportiva TX Canyon but I've not yet found an excuse to buy them, so can't comment

@@Grade1Scrambler Yeah I'm really curious about the TX Canyons as well. I think I'd get the Adidas over them just because they're like $60 cheaper for me (and I like the red).

@@Isaac_L.. Haha - so true about the colour being an attraction. One plus on the TX Canyons, though, is that they seem to be a reasonable amount lighter so maybe feel a bit less like Frankenstein's monster clumping around than with the Adidas

Thanks - Birchen is the best one in the area, though each time I've been recently I've had to break off to help walkers who've gotten stuck on the path down 🙄

wild boar clough would of been my choice but maybe you don’t consider it in the area

Thanks - Ashway Clough was disappointing. It's been a while since I tried Charnel: hopefully better when it dries out in the sun

Be interesting to know how it goes as a summer scramble with less water - definitely not as challenging as Wildboar clough!

Thanks! I'm UK size 10.5 and that's the size (EU45) I've got; they fit snug but fine (this is including 3mm neoprene socks)

Not yet! Though it's graded 2/3 so maybe beyond the capabilities of the grade 1 scrambler!

Thanks for your comment: I went and checked today. The fence by the first waterfall is still collapsed and so does not present a physical barrier to entry, though I appreciate some may not wish to enter at this point but further up