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YG, Stop Giving Babymonster Lame Songs
#babymonster #kpop #Ahyeon
YG needs to stop giving BabyMonster bad/mediocre songs. BabyMonster deserves better songs considering that the members are so talented vocally and dance-wise.
Songs mentioned:
Sheesh
Batter Up
YG needs to stop giving BabyMonster bad/mediocre songs. BabyMonster deserves better songs considering that the members are so talented vocally and dance-wise.
Songs mentioned:
Sheesh
Batter Up
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Overrated Kpop songs that don't deserve the hype
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#kpop Is there any popular Kpop songs that you dislike? This video is to roast some popular/hit Kpop songs which I think are overrated. Artists mentioned: Psy Blackpink NCT Twice Hyuna.
Underrated Kpop idols who can actually sing(female ver)
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#kpop #kpopvocals To give attention to underrated Kpop idols with good vocals. (female version) from 4th&5th gen. These idols can sing and deserve your attention! Artists mentioned: LilyM, Haewon (NMIXX) Belle(Kiss of Life) Si Eun(StayC) Goeun and Swan (Purple Kiss) Chowon and Nayoung (Lightsum) Haram(Billie) Jungwoo (BVNDIT) Monday(Weekly) Yechan (Pink Fantasy)
Why Kpop no longer cares about Vocals
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#kpopopinions #kpopvocals #encore Kpop has low vocal standard now. But why? In recent years, Kpop Vocal Standard has decreased noticeably and significantly. Especially this year, after Le Sserafim's questionable Coachella performance and encore stage, followed by ILLIT's controversial encore stage of "Magnetic". And some begin to question whether idols should know how to sing. From 2nd Gen idol...
The Underdog of 4th gen: Why (G)I-DLE is a miracle
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#gidle #kpop #(G)I-DLE This video documents the underdog success story of (G)I-DLE. Coming from a non Big 4 background, (G)I-dle had a humble debut (only 260 copies sold and few MV views). But over the years, they managed to grow from a "nobody" group to a global music sensation, topping the charts. Despite many obstacles (such as member leaving, group hiatus, etc), they only grew stronger and ...
Yes..Babymonster is the Beat un 5th..Maybe you should go to the Gym..hahaha..Scare to Show your Face..😅😅😅
Exactly! I really was excited for Baby monsters new song, seeing their talent and the huge entertainment they were under. But, then, the main chorus.. just was so empty feeling, a little disapointed but the pre-chorus, (Do or dieeeeee on my lifeeee, yeah you aint seen nothing yeah!) is really good (my opinoun).
I feel so bad, I didn't know NCT hated their song so much😭And I agree with you epecially for the ice cream song, it mainly just didn't fit Blackpink. Blackpink even said themselves that they prefer girl crush concept. Also if you could contuine this series I would really enjoy watching them, thanks
This goes straight back to your point about how vocals are now an afterthought because beauty is more important now and you wonder why Jisoo got lucky and was chosen over Miyeon by YG as the 4th BP member just not for her vocals and simply because YG thought Jisoo was prettier than Miyeon even though his dumb brain knew all along that everyone else will always think Miyeon was always going to be better Visually and Vocally for the 3rd Gen Group or Prettier Version of 2ne1 which YG himself as claimed and i feel bad for Miyeon because she worked her but off longer than Jisoo to be the New Dara ....... #justice for #miyeon
YG never chose Jisoo over Miyeon, Miyeon left the company herself because her debut with the group kept being pushed back.
you literally made up half of this
@@green_droplet i know she did but at the same time my op is look at what YG had in his pocket for what should have been the groups necessary center role component through their dynamic to soften there vocal line more or Miyeon could have literally taken Jisoo's spot instead because her Vocals would have blended in and out better than Jisoo's
@@emomiyeon just my own op at the end of the day ok you don't have to agree with me just respect it please n thankyou
@@wxyzhdoneq I understand your point, but what's done is done, and this happened more than 7 years ago. Plus Miyeon is doing amazing at gidle and I get that Miyeon's vocals would have really suited BP, but there's no point in writing hateful stuff about Jisoo. 😊🙃
Belle is literally the Ariana Grande of kpop. Loved the fact that she's included in this video. 💋😭
fromis >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sometimes people don't really appreciate talented artists because they are too busy overhyping their talentless but overhyped fave.
Nvee from Black Swan is so underrated she's a fantastic vocalist ❤
Nvee is so skilled and her voice is soooo beautiful ☺️
I LOVE THIS UNBIASED REVIEW!! KEEP IT UP❤❤❤
Just wondering about Rora, Rami, Pharita, and Ahyeon from BABYMONSTER? They have proven their live vocals on radio shows and in interviews. Also with their behind the scenes when they are warming up to go on stage or for their performances on music shows. Chiquita is good but she still needs some development to be a great singer. But they all have stable voices when performing live. But I don't disagree with the choices made in the video.
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the only reason she doesn't put the most talked about vocalist could be one reason: she doesn't like them i bet anyone have valid reason bcz even renowned vocal coaches and singers admit that they are talented singers
Did you ignore the part that said "UNDERRATED"
@@AG-go3if No I didn't because think about the criticism that they received when they debut. People didn't think that they could do it live and some people dismiss the vocals of the individuals since they count them stable as a group. But Rami just was on Lee Mujin Service and I don't think that anyone knew at what level BABYMONSTER vocalist really are at. Like I said that I didn't disagree with the choices but you have one of the best vocalist in this gen but most people don't put them among the elites. I knew that Rami was good but didn't expect the kind of singing that she did in Lee Mujin Service.
The way she use ningning pic as lip sync group you dont need to add them cause they already good😘
she doesn't say that ningning is a bad singer, she just used her clip as an example because they usually don't sing live because sm won't let them...
@@ANDODARREXJBSHS But nowadays, they're singing live more frequently.
@@akihasc7047 congrats..?
Chowon & Nayoung Lightsum ❤❤
FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONING SIEUN❤ ♡♡♡♡♡~she's sooo good and has a LOT of potential, but the K-pop fans just send hate to them when they're SO TALENTED
Also fun fact, Purple Kiss got covid right before memeM released, so it always never fail to amaze me how they manage to perform this song while still recovering
Thank you for including Purple Kiss! Me personally called Goeun as a glue of the group, because not only she's the oldest and the strongest vocalist, she often lead her members in terms of everything especially vocals. You should watch their coin karaoke content on MBC TH-cam channel how she acts to lead Swan and Chaein.. Also I hope next time Chaein also got included in your list
Love the Monday appreciation! Every once in a while, I go back to WEEEKLY's cover of Viva La Vida. Vocals is their strong suit and it's such a shame that they so often gets overlooked entirely in these type of discussions.
I just went and watched the cover and I was blessed ❤ thanks for mentioning them!
Siyeon :(
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not even a low average
Lily and Haewon really are the top kpop vocalists in the industry.
Maybe from their generation, but definitely not in the entire industry
@@emeline02 at least in 4-5 gen, but among the female groups, this is the best duo in kpop
@@Talent_more_than_popularity My first thought when it comes to best vocalists in Kpop is Siyeon and Yoohyeon from Dreamcatcher, Lily and Haewon would be 2nd to me, but I respect your opinion
@@emeline02as much as I love my girls, Yoohyeon and Siyeon are definitely not the best in the entire industry. Some of the best in their generation? Yes. Best of their generation and kpop as a whole? No. Vocalists like Wendy, Solar and Taeyeon are above them. This doesn’t diminish their talents ofc
@@Talent_more_than_popularity Haewon and Lily get less appreciation from other kpop stans If someone mentions Wendy the first thing we thought is Red velvet and 3rd gen best vocalist And same goes to Lily and Haewon they are the best vocal duo in 4th gen
Siyeon?
Dreamcatcher is 3rd gen, but highly agree on this. Siyeon's vocals is phenomenal. Her vibrato is probably the best I ever heard in Kpop.
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@@dranbuzz5276yes, not many kpop idols use vibrato. Dreamcatcher’s Siyeon, Yoohyeon and JiU all use vibrato a lot and I applaud them for that
@@chuuislovechuuislife SUA can also produce vibrato
In fact, she's the closest to Siyeon's vocal range. Highly evident in their latest comeback when she took all the blow in covering Siyeon's high notes. It's just that JiU and Yoohyeon have better dynamics.
Your assesment of I Made is bullshit. I appreciate your fanatism, but frankly, this was a waste of time.
Я СЛУШАЮ к-поп ради вкусного вокала, и потому из пятого поколения меня пока больше всего восхищают Kiss of Life. Их хореография захватывающая, но не настолько сложная, чтобы было невозможно контролировать дыхание, поэтому живые выступления девушек действительно ЖИВЫЕ Спасибо за видео! Определённо подписка😊
8:48 CLOCK REVELUVSSSSSSSS Wendy and Seulgi carry
Who love Gidle? 👇🏼🥰🥰
love the bag and the vid <3 can't wait for more!
Also Kiss of Life & weeekly, they have great vocalists (Belle & Monday are insane!) and sing live a lot
Your live tests where incredible lmao! nice video!
I'm just glad you correctly pronounced Yuqi's name. And yes, (G)I-DLE is straight up the best group in K-Pop and it's not close. Visuals, singing, dancing, they have it all.
Probably the line distribution discourse also plays a part in this.
people want main and sub-vocalists to get the same amount of lines which is insane
You are missing a big chapter of the story when omitting K/DA. It brought a big public of non kpop fan to discover and enjoy G-Idle, explaining their unique success in the Kpop scene
Nah not our fault when one company in particular is speedrunnning Kpop into market oversaturation by creating so many groups without any regard for trainig periods, that's why the idols can't sing, vocals take a long time to be trained unless you're an EXO and only need less than a year of training...these new groups are being picked to debut with the subtext that you never have to worry about singing as long as you look pretty. The worst part is those groups aren't being made for concerts, their songs are for tiktok, their dances are made for reels, and they experience zero growth from day one concept since everything is polished, and if the concept works why should we experiment? kpop is no more, everything organic about it is now put behind veneers.
And I just wanna put this out there: aespa rarely sings LIVE. I see a scary amount of delusional fans convincing themselves that their pre-recorded vocals are real time live, they are NOT. And this delusional is proof of how this generation of kpop stans are so unused with real live singing that, anything different from the studio version they assume that it must be live. I say that being a big aespa fan myself. And to many disbelief, you can still be a BIG fan and not be delusional about how kpop idols are operating nowadays.
lip sync or not, they're vocals are really good, no doubt. So, when they have to sing live, fans don't have to worry about hearing a different sound, coz they're already really good. It's their company doesn't let them. But nowadays, they're singing live frequently. Unlike, some other idols whose vocal sounds really bad when they're singing live.
Idols only care about their visuals and dancing today.
I just come to know this group in Tomboy era, thanks for the video!
This is why I’m grateful that we have SOME groups like BoyNextDoor in the 5th gen who always *try* to sing live. I don’t know why Hybe does so well with training male idols but just sends out any pretty girl to be an idol… And now, after seeing people praise BabyMon for prerecorded vocals and support the tragic lineups from the Iland2 and RUNEXT…it’s scary
I think "Giddle" is cute even if annoying. Knowing Soyeon, she'll probably work it into a song one day. Great video. I think there are just a handful of superstar groups (and lets not forget IU) who have really propelled Kpop both artistically and commercially, and really, at this point, Idle stands alone. It's insane how talented Soyeon is as a creative but also as a manager helping to develop her already-talented members to new heights. They'd probably all be successful on their own, but it's Soyeon that pulls everything together. She's the Boss, no doubt about that, but she also knows a good boss helps her people grow and shine in their own right so no one feels slighted. It's a lot harder to pull off than people realize, especially since Cube doesn't seem to recognize or support them the way a superstar group should be treated. It's no wonder the girls openly admit to counting down the days until their contract expires. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the agencies haven't already pitched their interest to Soyeon, and in the back of her workaholic mind, she's already got a good idea of which one she'll take the group to. (I would suspect they won't go the independent route since Soyeon has enough on her plate producing the group to take on the role of managing a business as well. If they did go the independent route, I suspect that Yuqi would take on that role. She always seems a little ditzy in the bts stuff hiding the fact she has rank 1 serious smarts and running a business would be right up her alley.) And yeah, the narrator really does sound like Young Ji. Maybe she wanted to scratch an Idle itch without looking like she was brownnosing Soyeon.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY PENTAGON HASN’T BEEN SUCCESSFUL DESPITE HAVING SIMILARITIES TO (G)I-DLE? Is it because Hui isn’t considered a. once in a lifetime idol?
Thank you for the hardwork.. You analyzed the group to the best. Seeing it, it took me back to the moment of sadness ..I became Neverland before hwaa era after listening hann. Just after their wonderful comback and 10 wins , soojin scandle came out. The whole group and fandom was in chaos. The whole group was absent for the whole year. I was worried for the future . Their disband thoughts were also coming.. Then finally tomboy came and it turned the air... Tomboy not only saved the group but also the fandom.. The fandom grew stronger and deeper
I'd like to add something, Shuhuas struggles proves how good of a leader Soyeon is, despite Shuhuas struggles Soyeon wrote songs in a way that helped Shuhua and taught her techniques that helped her with her vocals and timing
the music is extremely bland and boring too. i recently listened to a whole bunch of new songs and could barely find any that are even decent, and many where i found myself wondering wtf is writing this. everyone looks like AI, tiktok trends are the only important thing to companies. kpop was never like this but i feel like that is what made it go mainstream, is that it started to appeal to certain crowds that didnt care as much about those things. idols used to literally win music shows like king of masked singer and now no one hardly goes on there anymore to impress except to maybe sing really easy songs. no one sings korean ballads either which i feel was the most significant change. if you see most covers by idols now are either of another kpop artist or of a western artist. even osts by big 3 idols never go viral anymore. not even in korea. powerhouses exist but again they tend to stick to really mainstream pop songs and not really delve into other genres like they used to.
The celebration of mediocrity in late 4th going into 5th gen kpop is really disappointing to see. It’s why a lot of groups are putting out these bland, untextured, easy-listen songs. They’ll still chart and sell well (which 100% because fans will just eat up anything) so why try to break the mold at all when you can settle for easy money.
The celebration of mediocrity started when international kids flooded K-Pop and started claiming BP as "The Best" (who were barelly top5 in Korea) and it's only going downhill since... Don't get me wrong though , it's going downhill globally , not only in K-Pop. We're a step closer to "Idiocracy" .
@@Eluthien yeah there’s a general trend towards anti-intellectualism and away from criticality which is just,,, I want to believe that we’re not fucked but I dunno what I can even do about it
I personally think that if someone cares so much about vocals, theyll listen and stan artists who are all about that. Kpop stans care way too much about artists they apparently do not like
ATEEZ! Has to be mentioned when we talk about live vocals
am i the only one who doesnt care about lipsyncing that much? i prefer good choreography over live singing (although i still want the idols to sing well). they still have other opportunities to show their live vocals. except ofc if they lipsync in shows like it's live, that's too much (but it happens unfortunately).
the way my jaw dropped when she came for i made
Bro I know everyone is gonna add their opinion but gfriend had one of the best vocals before and after disbandment
i actually think there is a shift in the 5th gen, we see babymonster's songs rise on the charts purely based on their performances on music shows captivating the audiences. kiss of life is also gaining attention (particularly Belle). i think since the pendulum swung too far towards dancing, i can see it slowly but surely shifting back to vocals (or at least balanced vocals/dance importance). furthermore, with the recent trend of several hybe artists injured (beomgyu, minghao, jay, wonhee, hyelin, danielle is what i know off the top of my head) and majority of these injuries being knee/ankle related injuries definitely caused by the intense choreo with no break time (i know most don't consider dance a sport or dancers athletes but it is very high impact on the joints and the potential injuries can rival those gained by even contact sports) shows that this standard is not sustainable. once more that 2 members end up injured at the same time and they have to cancel schedules full-on what there be a shift because it'll finally affect their bottom line lmaoo
This is not just a Kpop thing. The most talented musicians/singers are never the most famous. Example: Taylor Swift is the number 1 most famous musical artist in the world (or number 2 if you like Beyonce but the point is Taylor is number 1 or number 2) Now ask yourself: if Taylor Swift is the number 1 (or 2) most famous musical artist, does that make her the number 1 (or 2) most talented singer in the world? Absolutely not. So why is she on top of the music industry? That's because being successful in the music industry doesn't require good vocals or skillfully crafted instrumentals. All that matters is catchiness and marketing. That's why your faves who try so hard and are so talented are getting overshadowed by less talented groups. Their songs either aren't catchy or their companies are failing at marketing them.
Another main factor is that companies care more about music that will go viral then stick within the idols vocal range. Because these idols can SING it's just it's not in their vocal category. As for the clicks for videos and lives etc I also think it's to do with group popularity and the company they come from
i agree cause nowdays even those idols who can sing dont sing live and like hybe where they misuse the talent of their idols, i think le sserafim can sing but their choreography is just too much and another example is illit they should have a concept based on their talent not their visual and songs that fit their vocal range .
I agree with so much of what you are saying. Recognizing the good vocalists is very good, but fans turn that into dissing the less strong vocalists. That's a shame when they do that. Because I liked this video I am going to subscribe and see what else you come up with. Thanks.