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I haven't been listening to Octopath but definitely been having some xenoblade music in my ears here and there and I completely agree, amazing soundtrack! I'll take a look at the Octopath soundtrack too to see how those are c: thanks for the suggestion and comment!

Oh absolutely! Or as others called them, farm sims. Cosy definitely is more of a hyper-genre (thanks to another commenter for that cool term) as it should indicate that a game is for the majority of players a cosy experience, instead of being about a very specific type of gameplay. If you show people a gameplay trailer or let them play for a few hours and immediate response is "wow this looks/is so cosy!", that's a cosy game c: Will admit though, I'm not sure if I'd see cuphead as a cosy game hahahah. I haven't gotten the chance to play it (yet) but I know that I'd be throwing my controller a few times at least c:

Thanks, I seriously appreciate that! And I'm super glad you enjoyed the video as much as I did making it c: hope you keep enjoying what I make next!

Rywo! You won an award! Congratulations 😍

Holy crap I won my first award! My video had a point now!! Wait. Does that mean I lose the award again? Okay in all seriousness though, yes. You could say that about literally every genre of game, except almost every genre of game has a very specific name that often even contains the games included. FPS obviously having shooter in it, city builder games obviously being about building cities. But Cosy games doesn't specify the games that should he included outside of that they should be cosy. Tactical games or RPG's are great example of similar genre's which aren't very specific and surprise! they are incredibly broad in the types of games they contain. Meanwhile thanks to whomever defined cosy games, it's 99% farming sims, even though cosy is super subjective. Even sports games have more variety in gameplay than cosy games currently, with there being a ton of different sports with different rules and gameplay systems. So, yeah. I don't find the video that pointless c; Thanks for the watch and the comment though!

@@iRywo stop using your little c: faces, grow up and be a man!!! use cat faces!!!! :3 :3 :3 i guess i can *kinda* see your point? i may not completely agree but i respect your opinion and was definitely being a bit harsh yesterday ^^; i do agree though that what makes a game cozy highly depends on the player. sometimes things like stardew valley can be stressful on me because of the amount of tasks to keep up with in the short time span that makes up a day. personally the games i find "cozy" are old point and click games, like sam & max and the homestar runner / strongbad games ! :3

@@ScourgedHeart But I love it when it looks like my cheeks are so big my mouth is condensed!! c: Point and click games absolutely should be included into the cosy game genre, they are low pace and generally super cosy! And no stress about the comment, I'm just glad you did in the first place c;

I will admit that the sims is most distant from the other traditional cosy games in a lot of ways! There are still a lot of similarities in things you can do though, it's just that they're executed very differently. Which makes sense as the sims is well.. a simulator game while the others are more farming games c:

I never said other genre's didn't have similar issues. My problem lies more with that while fps very much puts the constraint in the name (shooter), cosy games doesn't, at all. Who had the authority to define cosy games in a way that almost only includes farming sims? As another commenter put it fantastically well, cosy game is more a hyper genre, something highly personal to you. If we were to see cosy games as those games that the grand majority would call cosy, there'd be a massive variety in cosy games which fits because again, cosy is not as constrictive c:

@@iRywo a lot of people associate with farming games, but thats the name of that genre - farming games. The sims 4 could also be considered a cozy game, but its a life simulation. Games like dorf romatik is also a cozy game, but its a relaxed city builder. Or like some puzzle games. FPS games are all "the same" but they arent. Not all of them are ww2 simulators. Some are cartoony like fortnite and others have a unique story scifi like half life

Also not all farming games are cozy games. Like i dont think anyone would consider farming simulator a cozy game

Surprisingly enough, farming simulator technically ABSOLUTELY counts as a cosy game, which is exactly why I made the video. Sure there's some slight variety of the types of games within the genre's (style, theme, gameplay systems), but inherently a cosy game should be cosy, and games that aren't should be included (which they sometimes are due to the existing definition). Association with different genres isn't an issue, but as I mentioned in the video, the definition of cosy games is just incredibly restricted to mainly be farming games as it is right now.. with the ocassional exception like Dorfromantik c:

@@iRywo thats weird to me, ive never thought of farming simulator as a cozy game. Why do you say so? Like because it is farming? What about truck simulator -would you say thats a cozy game too?

Thanks man, I really appreciate it c: Hope you continue to enjoy them monthly!

Which is exactly what I emphasized in the video! c: The main issue is that the way cosy games are defined just mainly translates to farming sims, but cosy shouldn't be restricted to just that. If the grand majority finds a game cosy, it deserves to be a cosy game!

Thanks man! I seriously appreciate that c: I do try to keep things cosy hehe

I loved playing the long dark! It definitely fit in the cosy game vibe for me as well, also because it's a passive threat at all times. Only when you encounter wildlife can it be an active one but otherwise you're just scavenging and staying warm c: I did feel a bit of a lack of urgency and like, activity from playing it though, which sadly made me less inclined to spend hundreds of hours into it :'c thanks for the comment and I hope you enjoyed the video!

I think if the majority of the game is cosy instead of stressful, it should be allowed to join the genre! Games like RDR have so much downtime where you can just travel, explore and experience an adventure without any stress c: I think Subnautica has its moments for sure, but it also really depends on your fear of the unknown/underwater. Because that really changes the experience from cosy to pure terror lol. Thanks for the comment and I hope you enjoyed the video! C:

It was initially a exploration of the similarity of cosy games, until I started looking for definitions and found that they are the reason for cosy games being incredibly similar. But, the reason I added subnautica as an example for fitting in a lot of parts but totally not being a cosy game is exactly what you are saying. You can say any game is cosy with certain parts, but that doesn't necessarily make it an actual cosy game, which I also tried to emphasize with mentioning Subnautica c: I personally don't agree that cosy has to apply for the whole game, dredge being a perfect example of that. It's a very cosy game 95% of the time, until you have to escape a sea monster or keep an eye out while sailing in the night. Doesn't make the overall experience any less cosy though? Personally if a game is more than 70% or 80% of the time cosy, then it's a cosy game. Which would automatically exclude games like subnautica which features some cosy mechanics but where a larger part of the game is tense and can be stressful. I called it google because its the first thing you find when you google it, theres a reason Included the title/source of where it was pulled from by google, but that doesn't change that it was found through google c;

I did not come across Ooblets or Coral Island! So I'll definitely be checking them out. I can definitely more agree with your definition then the one that's findable online.. especially because the one online pushes so hard for farming sims instead of remaining open for alternatives that are still cosy, just not that exact thing perse c: When I initially started writing the script I really felt like they were all the same and then through research I realised that the reason for that was just the definition being restrictive/vague. Some well known cosy games don't even necessarily fit within that definition, like tiny glades. Unless you count the building as nurturing c; Thanks for watching and for the comment, I'm excited to check your suggestions out!

For me personally, I loved Dinkum more because it wasn't focussed on short daily play sessions like with Animal Crossing New Horizons. You can choose to just play one day, or you can go to sleep in game and then keep playing! And while the social aspect is a bit different with the lack of cute villagers, it's still cosy, especially if you play with a couple of friends c: I'm glad you got some game inspiration out of this and thanks for watching!

I partially agree and partially don't c: I think while copy pasting games is an issue for a lot of game devs (both indie and triple a), There are plenty of devs that really take on a different approach and change the feel of a concept completely. COD obviously feels the same year to year, same with the Forza Horizon games and of course the Fifa games. But, while it's also football (soccer if you're american), Rocket league is completely different in feeling, playstyle and experience. The main gameplay is the same, get the ball in the goal and defend your own. But thanks to it's execution it's a wildly different game from others. Same counts for games like Darkest Dungeon, Dave the Diver and many others. They might be inspired by others, but they still really do live as their own game. Taking inspiration isn't an issue, but copy pasting is for sure and it's sadly happening way too much :c

​​​​​@@iRywoThat's fair I don't agree with everything I've said either and it's a bit muddled as well. XD Copying for assets to fill in can have a place but inspiration hmm. Cozy to me sounds like moeblobs or iyashiki anime. Relaxing, not much going on. I have seen many, if dialogues or activities good then fine but seen many with fair jobs, fair ways their roles are, fair goals in some and assume they aren't but just wow their lives, a farm, a taking in laying down on grass, whatever food/Adventures I mean sure.... I guess of doing things day to day. Vibes the 'genre' is such a 'ok sure' thing to me. So farming Sims, city builders & atmosphere/whatever comfort examples, stressful & dark or relaxing/safe I guess. Can feel enough emotion, logic & more in other ways then a cozy game does but whatever. Cozy or a vibe, relaxing, podcast like I get that but yes most as cozy games are farming Sims, city builders and more close to real life logic easy games for casuals when many casuals games to us hardcore are also fun but it's how they go about it. Oh of course like I said the Witness, or others I hadn't but many point out, of their game design, dialogue, parody of a genre and more we all know from Undertale to whatever else and add their own spin. I respect Undertale as a parody, a good take on Earthbound and others it's inspired by as well as the new mechanics it has different and it's bizarre world. Or RPG maker games. I don't play them but understand the appeal. I could say other racing games modes, mechanics and more but I'd go on and on for too long due to my research of them. Just driving is a load of nonsense. Sure it is but would I play a racing game to race or to have 5+ different modes/event types. It's like a shooter with only team Deathmatch then other ideas. They can have 1 mode and focus on it with updates or have various modes and more audiences interested. Why else is Forza Motorsport 8 so boring. Horizon series to me is just more boring then Burnout Paradise. I don't care for open world racing games but even for as ok Test Drive Unlimited was Solar Crown looks stale and generic in comparison. Many arcade ones have more mixes of things. Juiced 2 has 3+ drift modes. They didn't need to but did. That's effort, prototyping and more. Games with fair level design and fair rewards/back tracking that make sense and is fair or fun then tedious. Undercovering them to be fun. The sense of exploration. How players do it. Heard about Plucky Squire and it looks good but heard from someone that yeah the worlds and personality is a bit disappointing when the concept art is more exciting then the world's they ended up with and it can happen for sure. A Devs vision and audience can vary but the immersion or creativity with that and what you do in worlds not wonder around a recreation and have boring missions. There is a reason I preferred good mechanics/platformer type ones like Sunset Overdrive, Gravity Rush or Infamous Second Son, fun varies side missions. While Spiderman 2018 even if a fair game felt to me more fun doing puzzles like Insomniac did with Ratchet well then the generic outposts and everything else. Tower defence of sunset overdrive and fair platforming side missions and regular side missions, good variety. Then it fits Spiderman but I wasn't having fun. Even 1 ground pound aka 1 ability side quest was a bit eh. To me infamous besides the more gamey good/Bad system then dynamic elements of it experiencec in other PS3/360 era games. The story was so casual audience mission tasks and the side missions were more interesting. But yeah I don't need 100% new concepts just a good spin on them to be happy enough and not question it. Good movesets, level design, good use of gear a character has whether cozy or hardcore audience. I can enjoy a party game if the ideas are fun enough. I found Pikmin 4 a disappointment because other then ice Pikmin, Oatchi was more 5 day bad on replays and waiting the players time, more restrictive onions/flowers, bad gyro when I wanted to use it. Character creator and good night mode but lacks depth it just needed that but more. It's a lot of weird changes, grind and casual as well. It's weird. Feel the same with FE Engage. Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft doing it not just third parties, Indies with only so much ideas on them it's just eh. More money mindset then creativity and taking time more mindset. Viewers to TH-camrs comparison as well. I know somewhat how you or others make videos but I do my own style (different channel then this one commenting with, improved since this channel). COD used to experiment though they still do but in a more bland way. MP has fair ideas but more in quality of life then dramatic enough. I don't play gave up at BO3 campaign, no co-op, less exciting ideas too. Cutting more corners as well. Like their cancelled games even 360 era were enough to show while ma y studios killed off or had ideas to support the machine that is COD they were still creative concepts, not anymore though. Sports games used to be good then got repetitive and lazy we all know that. Mario Sports games got less Mario personality and mechanics suited to it and more those characters and the bare minimum of the sport, with Ultra Smash to others. I don't even play them but can go oh yes Mario Sunshine type mud or piranha plant on the court in GameCube entry to a mega mushroom and basic content yeah you aren't fooling anymore Camelot. Let alone the other Sports games as well. Rocket League sure it's soccer/football with cars.. But GTI Club did it with 2 soccer modes, tomato throwing and a bomb mode. On PSP. Rocket League Devs did the same game as a Psn game on PS3 just as Rocket Powered Hyper Cars or something. Just more polish and more music deals like a rhythm game with packs I guess I just know Monstercat has music with the game nothing more I don't play RL/other presentation now. I don't think the Switch is great but it fills a space. I don't hate Rocket League or Switch fills in a space but I still expect more because I've looked at the past, I've got ideas and I'm not disappointed just know more potential can be done but doesn't because audiences sales or understanding getting less exciting in games or hardware gimmicks anymore. Rocket League is a game like Fortnite I respect for their design even if not for me. Minecraft I can play vanilla but play modded, I understand it for 10+ years with tech mods, quality of life and so on, a lot in 10 years, many modloaders then those blind to how many more then Forge XD The simple to use mechanics, endless possibilities and eh mob votes and other garbage more so 1.13+ it's just getting worse. Those you brought up while heard of if they have the stand out design I assume then I agree. Tunic I get why, I think it's overrated because of nostalgic it is to older games but the design I can understand why it's appealing to people in a good way besides the vocal outcomes I mostly get the impression of because people don't always talk gameplay much. Or how it looks only so much is conveyed of its greatness. Like seeing Hades clones I'm like I guess they have some differences but others are just lazy. I think games need more time in the oven, more time, if have to waste that money offer the personality or enough of a concept,, have more creative worlds, mechanics, stories do the job unless a walking Sim or visual novels and story is the focus by all means but it has to land. Red Steel 1&2 or Mario Rabbids both sequels are the best version, I assume same with Left For Dead 2 as well. Portal eh 2 is more out there but prefer 1 had less issues with it. But still. Seeing good Indie photography games or good Drawn To Life successors (how I see the one with the dog and colouring the world, it's obviously more then that but you kind of get my point, or whatever like it's cool. But yeah the more I research the more I get disappointed. I do need to set my expectations no doubt but still. Some are just random ideas and that can happen, others think longer about it and it lands, other times gets cut, other times too overboard, others people prototype, others have good understanding of a Metroidvania, Zelda clone or something else for sure but understand the great, the core elements, the hidden elements and why they felt that way, what made them impactful moments in those games. Not all get that. Metroidvanias people used emulators for and dissected everything I can tell the quality there for sure and the minds behind them of passion in the world design to the gameplay. You can watch any TH-camr and go oh I can do that yet they don't have the script, the personality of off the cuff, the insight, on what to say, how to say it, and so on. Sure let's play to retrospectives to analysis and more are all very different but some people are just too simple about it with playing/editing and others have a real knowledge and personality that get them by. It requires a lot of looking at creators, how they do things, why they do things, not to an insane degree we don't need 100% logic I get that. XD Got to have some good other elements in there but still. The values are felt for sure. Either way good video. XD Keep up the good work. Respect the comment, I respect my comment is a bit messy it's fair to disagree on parts for sure, no offence at all. Not from US, Aussie so yes soccer besides our own football. XD I get sports ruled even if not a sports type clearly by my long comments and weird research/points I make. XD I can make a bad scripts worth Unjust don't because I just don't have that kind of editing but I do have the ideas/research to it. I'll make a video like these points some day. Maybe. Just more basic. I enjoy videos like these. Breaking down a topic, comparison of games, and so on.

*Creates a crazy scientist and attempts to keep them alive through his clumsiness and craziness*

@@iRywo exactly. Creating you in the sims as a crazy and clumsy scientist is my favourite relaxing activity

If you overlook the dark and the souls, it's the cosiest game in existence! Especially if you accept fate and the safety of campfires c: but I completely agree! I don't have an issue with a vague definition, as long as the majority of a game fits with that feeling. Knowing I can play a game like Dredge, which is cosy for the biggest part and then gives some spookiness occasionally is just perfect and having a category for those types of games would be fantastic! Thanks for watching! And yeah the blanket seemed too good not to do c:

Search and find games as well as point and click games are incredibly cosy! The pacing and art helps a lot with it c: I'd have difficulty seeing a fps as a cosy game though lol, I'd get way too sweaty

Completely agree, sadly others very much class it as a genre :c just wish they'd put a better definition on it first..

If only it was that easy, I'd be the most popular person alive *cries in antisocial too*

Big scare, many fear :o

Imagine looking up the soundtrack and donating time and ad revenue to the creators themselves c; The goal was to talk about and recommend game music, not to abuse it and its creators c:

But I do agree, I could've made the music audio louder so it's more audible next to my voice! I'll make sure to do better audio mixing in the future c: thanks for the tip!

Yeeeeess the best one!

*looks at entire steam library and 1000 games of backlog* Hmmm.. I have nothing to play, let me just play Skyrim again! 😂

I discuss it in the main video that this was pulled from! Definitely fits amazingly well with it's world-building and as an intro to what you can expect from the game!

Thanks man! Definitely will c:

That's amazing! While I grew up listening to classical music in an orchestral setting, I really do feel massively invested now when it's gaming music instead! It's just amazing how it makes you remember a fantastic adventure you've had, or otherwise makes you interested in a new one when you don't know a song. Thanks for watching the video and I hope you enjoyed c:

@@iRywo I did! Thank you!

Final fantasy 8! The song specifically is Drifting c:

@@iRywo Thanks ^_^

I love the entire soundtrack for life is strange and I wish it would have fit with the topic of this video because it's just so good! Definitely have vibed on Firewatch countless times too, it's so soothing!

Also, are you on IG or X? Would love to drop a follow on there!

Thanks man, it was honestly a very fun video to make. I could've added in so many more tracks, and if I had, AoE2 would no doubt get mentioned way more with a whole RTS section! The legend of Zelda has such iconic music, I didn't even mention my own two favorites from the series, Gerudo valley and Moon's Tear. I think I could endlessly rant on about game music with the endless bangers out there c: I am sadly not on most social media platforms anymore (that might change in the future), but if you'd like to connect on Discord/Linkedin I'd love that! I sent a request through your links c:

He's been awfully quiet recently 🤔 I should check up on him to make sure he hasn't gotten lost in his gaming addiction again..

@@iRywo yeah you should we can't have him growing up to be an addict

@@laustjensen678 I remember when he got stuck in his chair playing World of Warcraft because he was sitting too long... Really should teach him some proper gaming manners..

@@iRywo 🤣🤣🤣 Everyone know you should sit like Quasimodo from the Notre Dame

I do really feel like they are modern classics c: and thanks man!

It's specifically a budget difference. Triple A has high budgets for production and marketing, so often times massive teams are working on the games and they broadly advertise. Indie typically is a small company/team or even a single person (think stardew valley). They generally have a lower budget, don't focus as much if at all on marketing and are often times smaller games, though there are always exceptions c:

Thanks I always thought indie was a term for something I didn't know (like a word not a meaning in this case)

@@goro4220 Haha I can understand that, in the case of music it's a bit of pixiedust as I was once explained. Indie rock being just, a way to wide category. In the case of the gaming industry, indie definitely does have a meaning c:

The youtube gods truly made a mistake on this one... They'll regret it! And true, I do also think that more microtransactions and asset flipping is the way to redemption. Where else will I spend my money? On fun games? Pft! Who needs those?!

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Domekeeper! Big hit from last year made in Godot c:

@@RacerC45 Always! I also listed a few myself in the video c: so I'd love to see if they line up!

Wait, Wait you undertand? Because I speak spanish XD, so...., thansk for hearts and ye...., yeee, discord? XD