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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- Ah, just another day of committing horrendous war crimes using spoons in Skyrim VR, living the dream!
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Paid $500 for my quest 3 and it changed my life, VR is spectacular and its just now entering its 16bit era
That's fantastic to hear! I do agree that it's on the up and up, it's just not quite there yet (for me). Hopefully soon though it'll start popping even more!
Me too, when I got my DK1 in 2016. I'm still only playing VR games.
That's a very good way to put it. Developers are now starting to play around with the medium, but the hardware we have is still limiting in terms of what can be done with it
@@laurenjurassic Quest 3 is definitely where that hardware starts catching up, the immersion in that is crazy just on standalone, PCVR I've never used a better headset
@notqunt1671 I use a Quest 3 as well and it really is a game changer. Mixed reality really is the future of the tech.
I paid $130 for a Quest 2 and tbh I dont regret it, sure I dont feel like im actually there but its a lot more immersive than flatscreen gaming and for me thats good enough.
I do agree that it's more immersive! you're still in a virtual room of sorts while playing games and especially when you get a deal like that it's a steal that will always be worth it. Still wish there were more games and that the technology was even more advanced, a dude can dream right?
Where did you get a quest 2 for 130 bucks?
@@davidvavrin1469 eBay, granted I did need to buy a third party headstrap (the default one sucks) and new facial interface (the one included broke). You can find similar deals and even listings with accessories.
@@davidvavrin1469 It was really cheap for a while when the quest 3 came out. Some people sold their quest 2 for around 100 bucks
7:20 this is a big area of misinformation: VR motion sickness is a growing pain. Your body will adapt to it 99% of the time after your first week or two (assuming you play daily). Most casual flatscreen gamers will give up on VR before they grow their “VR legs”
Strangely enough I have a few friends who have tried daily use of over 2 months and stopped because it kept making them sick every time. I think there are people who do continue having the issue, just like how there are some people who will get car sick no matter how often they are in a car.. I do believe for a lot of people that initial issue will fade, but I believe there's quite a few who don't have that
Stop before you feel sick, not after. Order is important.
If you know you get sick in 10 minutes, stop after 5. And build on that
@@iRywo they could buy a kat loco s. its a cheap locomotion set up
@@3DFanWorld the issue with motion tracking doesn’t necessarily lie with your movements, just with the way your eyes experience your view of the headset. Not that getting a locomotion wouldn’t make the experience better!
@@iRywo this is a per game thing all games uses different tricks to reduce sickness without even knowing why it reduces it and some games doesn't try at all it's also a habit thing when you know some actions make you feel bad you avoid them over time but if you expect to just get used to it and doesn't try to avoid it you will still feel sick and resistance to motion sickness barely build up if you stop playing after you already got it you must listen to your sensations and avoid getting sick though even with all that you will still feel sick in some games if they don't use fixes to motion sickness
Really the biggest thing in VR is simulations. Racing and flight games are probably the best examples of where VR makes the game better.
Oh simulation games are THE genre for VR! But I think for those developing for it every game should be simulation based. Like an RPG game in VR is best experienced if it’s a realistic simulation compared to third person 3D etc. The racing games I have played in VR definitely feel way better than playing it on a normal monitor.
The technology to make VR good is not available right now,but if you're a an enthusiastic nerd that wants to be a VR beta tester, VR right now is such a unique experience
I'm not sure how much further the advancements are for Beta testers compared to what is available, but I feel like it would be widely known if they were that far ahead? Maybe I'm being a bit skeptical c: Regardless, I do agree that VR is a unique experience regardless of if you are testing new tech or using the current ones. Like a lot of other comments mentioned, the biggest thing is software at the moment, as it simply does not live up to what it's supposed to..
ive owned vr headsets for about 5 years, what i use it mainly for is watching youtube or netflix in bed. It's much more convenient to put your head on your pillow and look up to watch things rather then bend over and look at an iPad or lean on your side.
If you look at the price tag for just doing that with the ability to game and do stuff it actually is really a good idea. Providing you watch shit every night like i do
Oh that sounds pretty dope as a use case actually, especially if the headset is on a sale, total value for your use. I’d still like to have access to better / more games and even more immersive tech though c:
this channel deserves to be way bigger i mean the quality of videos is outstanding definetley deserves a sub :-D
Thanks man! I really appreciate it c: hope you keep enjoying the video's!
Very well done presentation, subbed. I think that there's another aspect to VR that is often overlooked, which is the exploration and meditative/relaxation side of VR. Games like Low Fi, DeepStates, Get Lost with Luke in Nature, Notre Dame, Brink Traveler, and many others can be incredibly relaxing. There's also the added benefit of physically moving around while standing vs sitting like a couch potato (as most other types of gaming sessions are). It is too bad that we don't see more games like Half-Life Alyx, as it almost isn't even fair for how polished that game is (Damnit, Valve).
Thanks man, glad to have you here. Oh I didn't even think about that. There's honestly quite a few genre's that you don't think of on the spot that are actually an amazing fit with VR, like one of the other comments mentioned with fitness. I'll take a look at those games you mentioned! And yeah VR does have the whole "Move your butt" part to it that is physically beneficial.
I bought a VR Headset after trying my friends Quest 2 three years ago and I’ve gotta say it’s the best purchase I’ve ever made. I do think that my bias towards vr gaming probably came from the fact that I hadn’t tried any flatscreen gaming before getting into vr. I do agree that VR games are lacking a lot right now and could easily be much better if companies just put a little more money and effort into creating something fun to play that actually takes VR mechanics into account. This is why the only good titles are coming from indie developers who are actually passionate about VR and aren’t influenced by the stresses of competition that big companies face.
Honestly the indie dev scene is handsdown overtaking the AAA industry at this point, with the exception of a few triple A companies that are alive and kicking as they used to. Coincidentally that's what my next video will be about haha. I agree with you 100%, and I think that VR being your first gaming experience will definitely impact how positively you view it compared to a long time gamer on more traditional popular mediums c:
@@iRywo awesome video by the way! I was surprised when I saw how little views it has but just give it a few days 👍
@@Quantum-VR Thanks man, I really appreciate it! It's always fantastic to see a video getting a lot of attention, but personally I'm absolutely loving the comments/discussions that are going around. Interacting with fellow gamers is always my favorite thing to do! Seriously, thanks for the support and commenting, it means a lot c:
After I got my first headset (rift cv1), I haven't played any 2d game anymore. I tried some but it felt so locked in and limited that I couldn't play for longer than 10 minutes.
When I build up tolerance for motion sickness just by using the HMD everything feels easy. And for me personally I have so much fun playing vr ports of classics like half life 2, jedi knight, far cry and so on in VR that I'm at a point where I simply don't care about AAA games anymore.
@@whatthequack7235 but wouldn’t even more amazing triple A games make it even better? Being able to play fantastic classics is still goals though!
Well...there is also a thing called simracing, it is supposed to be a simulation, but if you purchase a 300$ worth of equipment, its only gonna do that much and it feels far from real driving. But if you spend on it $30000 you can actually feel like you are racing a real GT or Formula car. Same goes here, there are platforms that will let your character walk as you walk, you will hold a gun in hand that shoots in game and there is a lot of equipment that can work from game's data, but all these things cost a lot of money.
VR is the most immersive experience we got so far and if you dismiss it, because nothing stops your sword swing or when you enter the dessert you room's temperature doesn't go up to 40°C than maybe your expectations are set too high for a $600 technology as you probably knew that before you bought the headset.
@@AdrenalineCS I'm not dismissing VR at all, nor am I stating that certain technologies don't exist to at the minimum simulate those conditions without actually transporting you out of your body and into another world. But as I mentioned in the video and as you say, it's incredibly expensive to say the slightest to achieve it. That's a part of the reason I find it overrated as it is right now, because it's not a mind-altering experience unless you're willing to spend a small fortune on it. Does that make it a bad experience regardless of the amount of money you spend? No not at all, VR is a lot of fun. Just not as good as the VR community makes it out to be in my opinion. My expectations are exactly where the technology is right of this moment, especially when buying a headset within a max budget, doesn't make me dream of more affordable upgrades hopefully coming in the near future! c: thanks for the comment!
I need more fully fledged single player VR RPG, I grew up with Dot Hack, I want something like that, just going around as your character class doing quest in fake mmo world.
That would be sick for sure!
So you want more full fledged single player games where you explore a multi-player world?
@@jamesordwayultralightpilot yeah that the premise of dot hack, the story is you play as a character who were playing online game and has to fight virus who put people into coma
@@jamesordwayultralightpilot Yeah that is the plot of dot hack game, it's a single player game about fighting virus that trap people in MMO, the game even show people playing it like modern VR game
PCVR is really where you need to be. Standalone wont be here for a while unless they get cloud gaming down. But tbh, its moving fast. Once enough people own a headset then AAA studios will give more attention to it and then we will get the higher quality games. Right now they are making Assets that developers in VR can use like Unreal Engine so games will start coming out better and faster in the near future. Right now we just need to enjoy what we have and just enjoy the ride up!
@@aarongarcia2911 I completely agree! It's only on the up and up even if it's not quite there yet right now, I'm excited to see what'll happen in the next few years though!
How immersed you feel strongly depends on your state of mind and how much you focus on issues you see. If you take a game like star citizen, it is a very immersive game if you let it, but if you focus on the weird bugs and quirks it can take you out of that immersion quickly. VR has a lot of issues, but if you are able to forget about them, learn to deal with them, or find some way to mitigate them, then that can enhance your experience. Your brain will fill in the gaps and it's where you could develop something like phantom sense or that innate feeling of "thereness" that honestly is not exclusive to vr, just a lil easier to achieve.
Which is exactly why I never used the word immersion haha, I used to get immersed in my gameboy when I was a kid, hell I even remember playing a racing game recently that I had vivid memories of during my childhood and being surprised how pixelated it was as I always felt I was physically in the car as a child. It's easier to be incredibly immersed in VR compared to flat screens, but it's still not completely the same as being transported (which is very Sci-Fi but oh well, dreams can be dreams). I do agree with you though! Thanks for the comment c:
Nakey Jakey vibes. Got a tip for the sound, get some comforters and hang them outside of the camera, will help with the reverb. You can also lay some pillows on the floor to help too
Thanks man! I appreciate the tips, I did hang up a blanket around the room to try and reduce echo but I think it's also a low mic quality issue.. I'll be upgrading the mic very soon though so then hopefully most issues will disappear! I'm definitely going to try the pillows though, that sounds brilliant!
Got a quest 2, three years ago and it completely changed gaming for me. I know run a quest 3 on pcvr and play it everyday. The current state of VR is that its in the middle of its progression. Just like how gaming consoles had to go through. If you ask me VR is just moving faster.
The biggest hurdle VR has to get over is motion sickness. So many people i have recommended it to dont play because of motion sickness.
@@joshuakhuffmaster-whyte2847 it’s definitely making big strides and the speed of improvement has gone up a lot, in large part due to community created mods that allow the most amazing pc games to be played in VR. The motion sickness definitely is an issue still.. but I’ve heard they’re slowly finding solutions on the software side!
Ah yes the good old Ugandan knuckles
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@@iRywo I could not find my head from my own ass😂
how much time you spent in vr? I'm asking cuz the video kind of seems like you haven't played VR
I used the original oculus rift dev kit when it came out, played with the virtual boy, developed a game as a 3D artist for the original oculus quest and have used the meta quest 3 a few times. I also have some development experience for different AR headsets! it might not be a lot of hardcore gaming experience, but I do have some! It just never felt like the tech was good enough to stay interesting for me, though I know that's different for others c: regardless I hope you enjoyed the video!
I got the same feeling.
@@iRywothen yeah you haven’t really played any modern vr games apparently. The games we have now are nothing like what was on the oculus dev kit nor the virtual boy and most games that come out now are actually well beyond that tech demo phase that you mentioned. To be fair I don’t think that over all you are wrong and still agree with you, we need more of the bigger and better games but from the looks of it, it’s happening this year and on stand alone hardware at that. Over all yes things need to improve for vr to be the mainstream way of gaming but with the amazing leaps in hardware and software in present headsets I’m tell you it will be 5-8 years when it happens which for some is a lot sooner than you’d think.
@@Theguywith2thumbs I tried the bigger ones like Half Life Alyx and such on more recent headsets and played quite a bit on a meta quest 3, so I do have some experience with it, just never got pulled in enough to make it my main platform for longer than a few days.. I also feel like it's overrated right now, but that might change in as little as a year if a bunch of amazing games drop or an amazing new headset is announced that is either way more budget friendly or even more advanced! I'm on the other hand incredibly excited to see what happens in 5 to 10 years and where it goes c:
VR as a technology is not overrated; the apps and games that are currently available for it are. We are barely scratching the surface of what VR software could be, but right now we are stuck with shallow games and apps that don't make use of the spatial presence in XR
While I absolutely agree that the software is lagging behind a lot compared to the hardware, I still think the hardware has a lot of room to grow and improve before it’s to a level where you simply have to own one. It’s definitely been making massive improvements in the right direction already though!
@iRywo Definitely true in that hardware is the bottleneck for how good a VR experience can be. When hardware gets better, so will apps and then comes the mass adoption. I think XR will be as commonplace as home computers in the next 10 years
@@laurenjurassic if it sees big improvements over the years I am all for it and can absolutely see it happen! Hopefully both hardware and software can come together!
games feel more like sandboxes and demos instead of full fledged triple a-like games
Absolutely! There are exceptions like half-life Alyx, but they made that with the expectation that they'd never earn anything out of it and well, not a lot of companies are willing to invest that way... It's sad, but when you do make an amazing game for it, it also stands out like crazy!
I mostly use mine for fitness games but some other experiences are just so enveloping. Like horror, and narrative experiences can be extremely well done, like Before Your Eyes.
I know your comments are full of VR fanboys and I’m honestly not much different but.. VR definitely has a big space in the future of entertainment and gaming in particular. It’s already improved so much and there’s nowhere to go but up :)
I have a psvr2 and a quest 3 by the way, and I’m definitely not rich, I just spent my valuable dollars on this equipment because I do find it so cool. And they’re coming out with the cheaper quest 3S this year so.. anyway I like your video :)
@@SweetKingTanner I never thought about fitness games! Although, is it comfortable with a warm headset on your head? I too am excited about the potential of VR, especially with cheaper headsets coming out like the quest 3S that make current tech more accessible for the masses. I hope with that companies will start actually actively developing for VR and the tech will also receive a boost c: thanks for the comment and I’m glad you liked the video!
@@iRywo fitness games have been really great in VR, the headset with a few accessories really change the game (I think the investment was totally worth it) I live in hot hot hot Texas and I workout on mine basically every day (with breaks when I get too sore)
It does get sweaty but with a silicone face cover you just remove the headset, wipe your face, put that bad boy right back on. It’s not much different from regular cardio workout, just way more fun and investing.
Final note: I even wear a weight vest and weights on my wrists and that can really up the challenge. I’d consider my quest a workout tool first and a gaming accessory second. My PSVR is mostly just for games tho
@@SweetKingTanner that sounds dope! I loved playing ringfit adventure so this sounds like a really cool alternative to that! Thanks for the headsup and I hope you keep loving it!
It's not that it's overrated, it's that the VR scene is in crap phase. Not enough people have VR so devs don't want to invest in games. The games that do come out are exclusive to certain headsets. When the price of VR comes down is when we should see it really start to open up.
I mean, valve investing in half life shows there is interest, I'm just not sure if VR as it is would remain profitable long term.. I know very few vr gamers who continued after 2 months of playing on and off. Maybe it's because it's in a crap phase though c;
Loved the video, i play vr a copious amount and it's fun when you play the right games (vrchat is a hellspawn)
I'm glad to hear you loved it! I definitely think there are games that make it fantastic and games that are kind of just... there? Hopefully we'll see more and more fantastic ones soon!
Okay so you are saying that vr isnt as good as it "should" be. The thing is that vr is advancing still and relatively knew even if the first vr headset came out 1963, I mean we just got the first actual 4k res standalone headset and the problems you say such as swinging controllers and falling into walls these are things that actually have fixes for them if you have money, such as gloves that you use instead of controllers and a vr station where you can run for hours without hitting a wall.
You are talking about vr as something like ready player one x Jumanji, your expectations may and probb will be meet in the future but saying that vr should be like that now is just dumb, we just got brain implants.
Vr games I could deff understand your point, not so many realistic and as immersive as games like half life alyx.
@@gottcha0330 I’m only stating it’s not where it should be compared to how a lot of people talk about it, doesn’t mean you can’t have a great experience! And for me one big issue is the cost for a truly amazing experience, like I mention in the video c: the tech is improving slowly but surely, so hopefully it’ll become even better and more affordable very soon.
Loving the content, great video!
Thanks man, I really appreciate it! c:
As someone who loves VR, I for the most part do agree. Especially on the part of not being enough games. It'd be great to have more high quality story focused games like half life alyx and boneworks, for instance. Also, I've heard some people say vr will 'replace' flatscreen gaming, which I think is ridiculous. You can't make a 2d game like hollow knight or terraria in VR, other than just putting a virtual tv there and playing it on that. VR is a very different experience and even if full dive ever exists I don't think flatscreen games are going anywhere.
As for VRChat, the best way to play it is either with friends or joining a group, since groups won't all have the same community that public vrchat does. Usually groups don't allow recording(because who wants to be recorded while just talking to their friends), so there isn't really any content on the (in my opinion) better part of vrchat.
As for full dive vr(SAO style vr), I think any games for it would be ridiculously hard to develop. Every object would need a smell, taste, and texture in addition to sight and sound.
I am 100% agreeing with you there! Sadly the big games need insane budgets and even Valve admitted they never expected to earn anything from Half Life Alyx. 2D also definitely does not fit in VR and I think it's a medium crafted to perfect 3D experiences.
I love to hear that about VRChat, I haven't stepped into that world (yet), so knowing a lot of amazing parts are hidden from public view is great to hear! Makes me more eager to actually try it out at some point.
Lastly, I do agree that development budgets and time would be absolutely off the charts with true dive VR, but, I think when we get to a point of technology to enter those worlds, we'll also for example will have scanners that scan items, plants and creatures with all senses in mind. It's very sci-fi thinking, but then again, so is true dive vr. Still exciting and who knows, maybe we'll experience it in 20 years! Thanks for the comment and I hope you enjoyed the video c:
@@iRywo I did enjoy the video. Also, for vrchat groups, I'd personally recommend Ancients of VRChat, it's an 18+ SFW group, so you don't have to deal with children and they have a pretty good moderation team. I'm sure there's other good groups too. I've heard furry centered groups tend to be pretty chill, although not always very SFW.
@@Cishsun I'm glad to hear! And that sounds a lot better. From all the stuff I've seen I was expecting there to mainly be kids and or NSFW groups haha, but if there's groups like that it's definitely a hell of a lot more appealing c:
Not to mention the few actual games that do come out it's probably gonna be locked to some other headset...
@@mspoints4fre123 ugh, console exclusivity here we go again *barfs*
play blade and sorcery. with the recent 1.0 update, it's become a shining light for the potential of vr tech
@@lemonamon I found it while editing this video! Definitely looked like it fit with the coolkids of the VR world!
I think its underrated because as it definitely does have issues the mainstream gaming media actively avoid it wherever possible so its its own little bubble
Hmm that's an interesting viewpoint! I feel like there have been a lot of attempts to push it into the wider gaming market, especially with for example Apple stepping into it too. I also feel like with how many big games have ports, it's not completely a bubble anymore, but hopefully a new breakthrough is made soon so it can be more embraced and grow further c:
@@iRywo not sure about the big VR ports, I feel like Skyrim VR and fallout were probably the biggest and they are nearly 10 years old. There have been a bunch of heavy hitters like Asgards Wrath 2 and Resident Evil 8/4 but the only truly large push into mainstream at the moment is Batman Arkham Shadow and people really didn't like that it was a VR game and despite the passionate, talented developers going out of their way to talk to community/mainstream journalists, people seem rather disappointed that it's a VR game. The hardware won't get better without software getting better and that won't happen without more users.
@@LukeMartin-qi5uh I think it's a bit of a two way street. The hardware won't get better if there isn't great software, but nobody is interested in developing software if there isn't any real interesting hardware.. there has to be a sacrifice on either side for it to build up steam. Regarding the Batman game, they might have also just misjudged their player base like with the whole Diablo mobile game.. I don't know, it's a tough situation and I can understand those uninterested in VR being frustrated when their favorite franchise focusses on developing for VR instead of for their platform of choice
@@iRywo I think we have amazing hardware atm really. Quest 3 is high resolution with a fast processor - faster than a PS4. It has amazing passthrough that, now you can place screens anywhere like vision pro means it can replace a variety of flat screens so flat content is more accessible. Xbox cloud, steam and netflix native support as floating cinema sized screens anywhere you want. The pancake lenses are amazing as well, it's the first headset where adjusting IPD to find a sweet spot isn't really necessary and you get almost edge to edge clarity. Considering it's only 500 bucks it's pretty incredible. That said when the quest 3s comes out for 300 I think that will move the needle a whole lot more. Hopefully we will have a sweet spot of decent enough hardware to help retain users. Once enough people are invested into the ecosystem the software will improve drastically. I don't think this can occur on either PlayStation or pcvr as these platforms are too limited by cost/features/setup to become mainstream.
@@LukeMartin-qi5uh Great point! Maybe the issue is genuinely the cost for now as most people just aren’t willing to dish out the money it costs right now. Let’ssee how it improves with the quest 3s when it comes out!
No, its not overrated at all. I have a Quest 2 and soon I'll be buying Quest 3 or Quest 3S. Its an absolutely incredible way of gaming :o
I never said it was bad at all though, I just said it isn't as good (yet) as I've heard the VR community say it is. It's a personal opinion but there is simply a lack of software making full use of the technology (only 5 real top-quality games having come out in the past years, Half-life Alyx being one of these) and if you ask me, for it to truly be adopted by the greater gaming market, the technology still has some ways to go. That doesn't mean it's not already a great experience nor that the current tech on the market is bad, it's just not quite there yet from my point of view, but I'm seriously glad you're loving the experience! The more people do, the more it'll gain support from the companies that are pushing it further c:
@@iRywo I totally respect you're opinion, but imho I do think the tech is already here, we just need the numbers to justify more AAA content.
Either way, VR gamers keep growing fast (45%/year average growth rate since 2018 according to statistic, which is an astonishingly high growth rate) and, as a consequence, we are getting more AAA titles in 2024, which in turn can fuel growth further. Furthermore, the hardware keeps improving, by getting better and cheaper as you said.
This being said, I think its likely that, even with a much lower growth rate, that in ~3 years most families in developed countries will have somekind of VR device. And in ~7 years VR will be the main source of video-gaming (excluding mobile)
@@VRitasium While I agree that it's a fast growing market, especially with for example cheaper options coming to the market like the Quest 3S, I'm not sure I completely agree with that it'll be the main source of video-gaming. It's definitely amazing for 3D, but that is ignoring the entire 2D market, which is honestly massive and will still be as good if not better on a standard monitor. On top of that, the cost for producing for VR is still incredibly high and that won't change anytime soon, especially considering it doesn't really support cross-platform when it's developed with a VR first mindset. I think it's a completely different medium and while it will probably grow and expand tremendously over the next 10 years, it's not necessarily competing with PC or console gaming. It's like arcades, it's two different types of mediums and experiences while fitting in the same category (gaming). And for me the biggest thing remains that it's still a bit.. niche? like, the WII was also in every single household at some point, but that didn't make people stop playing on their PC's or other consoles. I think this is a similar situation. Will it take on a big market share at some point? Yeah I'm sure of that, but just like how mobile gaming hasn't and won't take over PC/Console gaming and it's values, neither will VR.
@@iRywo once again I respectfully disagree on some parts/details of what you're saying.
1) mobile is now the main source of video-gaming (that's why I excluded it from the comparison) with around 45% of all players
2) If you consider VR a niche with its now 12% of gamers that's ok but its rapidly getting to the level of other platforms (keep in mind that 6 years ago VR gamers were only 1% of gamers), for comparison, PC gaming has around 25% and consoles 18%.
@@VRitasium The thing is, mobile gaming is in all respect either played when a PC/Console isn't accessible or appropriate for the occasion or played by those who are only interested in a very casual experience (candy crush as a good example). Yes, mobile is massively profitable which is what the numbers actually point to as a mobile gamer could also be a pc/console gamer.. Earnings wise, mobile is around 50% of the market currently, not 45% of the players. If you look at recent data, 79% of gamers also use their phone for gaming (this includes those that don't game on pc/console or even own either)
I understand that you might disagree, but my point is that it won't replace pc/console gaming as there are a ton of genre's that simply don't fit with VR as a medium, especially 2D gaming. I'm not saying people won't play it with a VR headset, just that it doesn't improve the experience of these games. VR will be alongside standard PC/Console gaming, being more profitable in some genres while being less in others. When VR allows people to actually transport themselves into another world, THEN it's going to take the cake and beat all other consoles, but at that point who knows what'll happen.
I have this thing for playing games I did as a child but in VR via mods. Quake 1&2 , Wolfenstein, Half life 1&2, Doom 3. There’s just something cool about seeing everything to scale and and actually having gun fights with the enemies lol I like the newer games too. Played skyrim and fallout, but they’re still just Skyrim and fallout. I dont get overhyped for VR, but I appreciate it and it’s novelty. I love Boneworks too. Couldn’t get the RE 2 and 3 mods to work, but I tried GTFO, that was something lol I still enjoy Zero Caliber just because it’s goofy fun. Into the radius. The only thing with VR is it and be taxing on the body depending on what game you’re playing. It definitely has a long way to go, but I think in the future it’ll be better. Luckily for me, the motion sickness went away after my 3rd time playing. The pricing is a big issue though. For such a niche market still, there’s really asking top dollar. They should invest money into actual games to take advantage of the hardware instead of coming out with crazier headsets with just the same handful of games to play. There are great games, but not many.
@@-whiskey-4134 I completely agree! And the idea of experiencing amazing classics with a new lick of paint so to say is amazing! I'm excited to see where it'll go in the future as it definitely has a ton of potential. Thanks for the comment and the suggestions! I didn't know about Xero Caliber and GTFO C:
Like the enthusiasm, but maybe put the mic closer to your collar? Love the video tho! Keep it up giving you a sub ❤
Thanks man! Sadly the mic will start peaking if I put it closer, but I’m getting a new one for either the next vid or the one after that, so the audio is going to improve massively at that point. Really appreciate the support and I’m glad you loved the video! c:
I agree with you that it is a niche but full dive can be dangerous.
Oh definitely, I mean we have no clue about the psychological effects it could have, let alone physical. Still, interesting concept to think about c:
@@iRywo however by the time full dive would become a reality the Creators would had to have worked out all the dangers of it
@@misbiscuits9199 for sure, it would’ve had to go through a lot of tests during development!
You're such an underrated youtuber❤
Thanks man, I seriously appreciate it! Glad you’re enjoying the vids c:
Nausea feeling is something that can be easily overcome by most people, but it does suck in the first days which acts as a barrier to entry.
Mix reality has great potential and I can see it replace boardgames completely.
Game quality is getting better, but they are severely overpriced for what they are.
@@siveonfarcloud4190 completely with you there, though I know people who really couldn’t get over the VR sickness even after weeks of regular use… I’m currently super excited for mixed reality / Augmented Reality, it seems like the perfect middle ground for now until VR get’s cheaper and/or better!
@@iRywo I think the price range of Quest 3 is fine because its about the same as a console. Though the lack of games is still an issue.
Now its getting more functionality, for
example you can play xbox game pass games (which is a great value) on it in a virtual screen.
I've used a Quest 3 as a browser to watch youtube while in bed and it was a fairly fine experience.
@@siveonfarcloud4190 Then it's perhaps a mix of a software/hardware issue, because you still have no access to a majority of games that only have VR support due to mods.. Still, it's better than nothing c:
@@iRywo Modding PC games will always require a PC to play.
A VR devices do not use the same architecture as a PC, as such the some binaries that a PC game use can't be used.
Meta VR is based on Android, so this is every unlikely to every change.
The only mobile device where this could work is a steam deck. Maybe the next Valve headset, if it will be a standalone one, can do what you want.
@@siveonfarcloud4190 hopefully! I generally am a big fan of the devices Valve produces so if they make another I’d be super excited!
VRChat is toxic as hell but I’ve actually made real friends on there haha. I like VRChat because you have the most freedom than any other game but of course, that means a lot of toxic behaviour 😅
I would love to see you (a reasonable, intelligent person) make a video playing VRChat where there are a lot of weirdos.
Love the style of your video and appreciate the amount of research that you did ❤
I think there's always multiple sides to any community, the VRChat community just has some sides that are way more visible and vocal then others hahaha. I'm glad you were able to make friends though, that's the dream for any game and I did the same with league of legends and a few other games (I even met my Fiance through LoL)! I don't currently have any plans to create gameplay video's, but never say never c; Thanks for watching and commenting and I'm happy you enjoyed it!
VRChat isn't a game, it's a social app.
@@thenonexistinghero there are games inside of VRChat you can play, like Among Us clones and such! Yes most people see it as a social app, but I see it as more of a Roblox type platform where you can either chat in rooms or play games with others c:
@@iRywosorry to be that guy but the vr chat games are like playing a rip off android game just to kill time. Like it’s not like Fortnite or Roblox, where we can actually do and create things how we want it or play and win something
@@Chrixskie ah okay that's worse than I thought, I thought it had the option to build/integrate actual games as well.. thanks for letting me know! It's still interesting regardless and I do feel it's more in the gaming sphere then the social app sphere personally
i use vr as a means of work (it’s something when sum1 is chasing u with a gun shooting) it’s pretty dope, i don’t own a vr treadmill just a decent sized garage.
Now I’m curious what job you have haha. VR has massive potential in the simulation world for military and police training and I do believe that’s where the most tech advancement is going to come from in the next couple of years. VR definitely isn’t bad, it’s just not as good as I think it should be yet compared to how the community talks about it. thanks for the comment!
@@iRywo i work part time at fedex, and use my skillset (3d printing and soldering) to make a decent amount of extra cash. i at least make 2k a week. (i live with my mom still tho so im not rich 😂😂)
@@capolean2902 Bro 2k a week is BIGGGG, though I still don't see how you're chased by a gun during your work 🤣 unless you live in a horrible area in which case, keep trucking my dude!
@@iRywo i meant a month, i was half asleep when i seen u actually responded lmaoo. but i play shooting games contractors, bonelab, ghost of tabor 😂not actually getting shot at irl.
@@capolean2902 ahhh hahaha, still pretty good dude! And that explains a lot more 😂
you cant say it's overrated when most gamers skip it and companys pretend it doesn't exist vr even in it's current state deserve more love and while it's not the peak of what it could be it's current state can be way better then flat screen also for the motion sickness it was already solved multiple times randomly but no one really knows every thing that causes it or what fixed it in places where it isn't there so it can't be applied everywhere but it is possible to fix with software alone when we eventually figure it out (by fixed i mean low to an amount you can reasonably assume no one would be sensitive to it enough to feel bad)
Overrated can absolutely be said in my opinion when everyone I’ve spoken to in the VR community is overly positive about the current state of VR. Of course it can be way better than flat screen but I personally don’t think it is yet.. It’s dope that there are advancements in fixing the motion sickness! Though I think it’s hard to fix for those that are sensitive to it, like the people that get motion sick even from flat screen gaming
@@iRywo the community is crazy i agree to that but no it isn't overrated the community is crazy to get people to try it since it is currently underrated yes all the people that recommend vr are overrating it but most people think of it as some useless hardware that's only use is corn the reason vr is quite slow in it's progress is that the only people that takes vr seriously and have the power to do anything at all with it are meta and well they don't know whatever they are doing but i can assure you that in it's current state i've had experiences that where way better then anything i'll get from flat screen (though those experiences comes from modded flat games and games made in vrc the current state of vr games is quite bad but there are multiple project that will hopefully make it better a 100% physic based engine is coming and sfbt is very close to actual fbt) the hardware is already there to get more then anything you could with flatscreens but no one is really doing anything significant with that there aren't any good base for games and only people making those are indies so of course there wont be any quality experience
@@cameleon2mur80 Of course if you ask those who haven't used VR about it, they'll answer dispassionately. This video was more targeting those we do have experience with it, whom I've noticed are almost always completely in love with it. So for those who don't know it yeah it's underrated, but that's not who the video is for c;
How you experience a game is completely different from how I would, or someone else. I have had great experiences in VR, but I can't necessarily compare them to playing for example the Witcher 3 on a standard monitor as it's two completely different things. It's a different medium to consume gaming through, so it'll be better for some genre's and worse for others. Everyone knows VR, there's a reason not everyone owns a headset. It's simply not good enough YET (due to software issues mainly, but hey the tech has a long road still too).
@@iRywo i get what you mean and i found a video with a similar idea of yours but with better wording of the problem the community is overly positive to an toxical level so you are right but it's not the right word and for not being good enough tbh yea but it's more because of games then the hardware i get that you want better hardware but like who the fuck bought a ps5 if there aren't good software and plugins to implement and good bases for making games we wont get anything good as of now when you make a vr game you have nothing to work with everything must be made before you can even start making the game some times you might even need to recode most of the game engine you use that' why most games feels like tech demos no one have time to make games people should focus more on software then hardware right now because if used right the current hardware is good enough but everyone just wanna skip directly to sao level of vr i understand that it would be amazing but damn live in the present people got hardware make things to make those hardware usefull instead of making the next one vr is amazing but damn games sucks only decent experience are hl alixe and modded flatscreen games and vrc games (vrc can be similar to roblox in a way since people can make games inside of it but like roblox the great are great but a lot of it isn't good and it takes a while to find good games if you try to find those by yourself)
@@cameleon2mur80 hey, it's my opinion that VR is overrated, it doesn't have to be yours. There's plenty of engines that have great VR dev support and dreaming of having SAO level Virtual Reality is not the reason I made the video in the first place. Currently, VR is simply not as good as the community says it is. The tools all exist to make amazing VR games, it's just not profitable to make that investment hence the lack of big VR games. Valve themselves said they made Half-Life Alyx as a showcase for the possibilities, not to make money. Devs made games for the PS5 because the hardware is great and high quality and there's a lot of people playing on it, while making games for it can be fairly cheap depending on the scale. Regardless of the scale, VR games cost a lot to make and with the small user base it's hard to make a decent profit so of course companies aren't that interested, especially when it's really hard to make it multiplatform. Mods are making a lot of VR games and that's thanks to the community. I stand by what I said in the video, there's a massive way to go for VR, even though it's already come a long way in the past 10 years c:
I flipping love VR, so much so I find flat screen gaming boring now, I need immersion now, God damn it I need IMMERSION!
Idk I just HATE vr right now, because the nest Batman Arkham game is going to be a VR exclusive, and I know most people who love the Arkham games do not like this either
I think that's a classic case of a developer not understanding their userbase.. like what happened with the Diablo mobile announcement. It's sad because it affects a medium as a whole due to the actions of one developer with a lack of insight
lol how this video has 2.1 k views and 77 likes and 6 dislikes
Little or a lot? Haha
It really is unfortunate that the solution to most of these problems that have an answer is just throw a lot of money at it, other than that we just have to wait for something like nerve gear to have realistic temperature and touch sensations. At least we are probably taking the first step to that with the Neuralink. As much as I love VR I hate to admit a lot of what you say is true, although there are some games you can get lost in if you look around, so I don't agree that most just get bored and go back to flat screen games after a while.
Investment is always needed for this kind of stuff, or some crisis needs to happen that coincidentally can make use of VR to solve it, which would be very unlikely.. but hey, we'll get there someday like you said c: and I'm not neccessarily saying VR is a lost cause, I just think it needs to get a lot better both in tech and games available, as even with a few amazing games it's still not enough for most users or new people to get interested..
Fr a game like Resonite I feel like has the potential to really carry VR when all the wrinkles are ironed out, but even rn in it's early stage and few players it's THE BEST VR experience I've had
Oh damn I'll take a look! Always love getting good suggestions of games that go under the radar, thanks man!
Resonite kinda does, but the movie ready player one is what we need.. not everything from there but things good in that movie like graphics and gameplay
@@Chrixskie yeah exactly, the tech needs to step it up, then I'll be the first one to once again pick it up and enjoy it to the fullest!
I think you're missing the point. *Virtual* Reality isn't supposed to *be* reality. You can have most of the experiences that you talk about--desert heat, swinging a real sword--by going and doing that thing in real life. The point of VR is that you get to do fantastical, risky things without experiencing actual risk. If VR isn't "real" enough for you, then go and touch grass instead.
Personally, I'd love Virtual Reality to be more like reality. I mean, the idea of fighting monsters/bosses/players with all the real input and senses and feelings of reality without the risk of actually dying sounds dope to me (atleast in theory, so it might change if I ever experience it). I'm not saying I'd like to go into virtual reality and when I die I die in real life, I'm saying I'd love to experience standing in a desert and fighting massive scorpions without the risk of you know.. actually dying? It's something I would love to experience, I don't believe you need to feel the same nor have the same hopes and dreams for the medium. Besides, if virtual reality isn't supposed to be reality, why did they put the word in the name? Outside of it sounding catchier of course.
i so agree with this i have a meta quest 2 and it cant run roblox. i think its a roblox issue since it only is terrible when running roblox but still many games suck and just are glitchy
VR support is lacking and funnily enough, often it's due to community mods that it works to a level that it makes VR worth it, hopefully that changes some time soon though.
@@iRywo yeah and no matter how much people glaze how good vr is i just cant be all that amazed at just a 3d 360 vision of some game that cost 500 dollars
@@brotherin It's exactly why I think it's overrated as it is right now.. sadly it's just super expensive and often times the games aren't as amazing as they could be. Though there are exceptions like Half-life Alyx c:
I will not touch VR. Tried a few times, I get headaches and nausea within no time 😅 I would however love SubNautica in VR 😳
I can't wait to be eaten by humongous sea-monsters while looking for cute fishes to put in my aquarium!
Subnautica can be played in VR...
@@thenonexistinghero So weird, I had never heard of it, but someone told me after this video! You need to mod it, right?
@@vengerberg6606the VR mode isn't a mod, but you'll probably want a mod for motion controls, as by default you'll have to use a regular controller or mouse and keyboard
You can slowly cure motion sickness through exposure. It's not like you get born with it and never improve.
You should really try the hogwarts legacy vr mod for pc :)
Oh that sounds dope! I'll definitely take a look, thanks for the suggestion c:
Use a mic for audio quality. Good luck
@@Maustah I got the current cheap lavelier mics a few video’s ago because the studio mic was horrible, but I will be upgrading further to some high-quality ones this / next month! Thanks for the tip though and cheers for the comment!
@@iRywo sure thing. Love passionate content creators. But iam spoiled and distracted as well :) hearing the audio quality made me stop watching after 1m. Couldn't easily focus on what you said.
@@Maustah It's interesting how there's such a difference in quality requirements from viewer to viewer. I myself don't care much for audio quality but get frustrated when footage is pixelated, I know others who require really good color grading and then there are people who really pay attention to audio quality. I appreciate the support and heads up, hope you can properly enjoy a video in the future with better quality audio when I get my new mic!
Not overrated. Just not enough games. Developers only wanna make short games that you can play over and over like beat saber. Nobody wants to make real games. Half life Alyx and boneworks are the only vr games I can think of that are good examples of what vr could be.
I mean, the reason I find it overrated is because when I hear people talk about VR, they seem to think it's the most amazing thing since sliced bread. So for example not having enough amazing games for me automatically makes it a bit overrated compared to that perception, doesn't make it bad at all though! It's still an amazing experience and especially a game like half life alyx is a good example of something absolutely amazing that lifts up the medium as a whole. I hear very conflicting thoughts about boneworks/bonelab though!
@@iRywoI feel like vr is still in its very beginning stages. But I feel like it’s hit a brick wall. And I blame meta. The quest made vr very VERY affordable. So a LOT of kids got their hands on it. And since the quests alone can only play arcadey games like beat saber or among us vr. That the majority of what’s being played. So that’s what developers see. They think that’s what we want. And now new headsets are being made that don’t even focus on games. They focus on experiences. Which isn’t bad. Just I wish developers would actually focus on good games. Boneworks was the first vr game of its kind and I think everyone had the same opinion about bonelab. It was too short and more like gmod :( not really arguing with ya. I just feel like vr has a lot of potential. But no execution. The vr world has had really bad luck for years.
@@iRywoI just wish it was known for more than just beat saber and vrChat
@@Yoshade I definitely think its still on its babylegs so to speak.. I think Meta purposefully targeted the more casual gaming audience with their headsets, but you still have the big players like Valve who do focus on the gamers and hell, even make one banger of a game! It's I think a really hard market to kickstart, especially because producing a game for VR simply does not have the same profit margins compared to how much it costs to develop VS a standard PC game, especially when you factor in multi-platform releases..
There needs to either be one industry breaking game release, or a tech advancement so wild everyone wants it in their home like what happened with the WII (while it was a bit niche of a mechanic with the wii remotes, let's not forget EVERY family basically had one). Perhaps that's why the VR community focusses so much on remaining overly positive though, in the hopes that contributing that way will make it more enticing for companies to invest. Sorry for the long rant! just find it incredibly interesting to discuss haha, thanks for commenting and giving your input c:
@@iRywo exactly! And ofcourse! I love talking about it aswell. And you’re exactly right on people staying positive thing. That’s exactly what I’m doing right now xD
Get a good mic bro and your videos will SMASH! Great video otherwise. I can tell you put a lot of work into it and it seems a shame that it falls a little flat only because of the audio. YOU GOT THIS!!!
Edit: Plus, delete all of yourself sitting in the chair. It will not only save you a lot of work, but mix the absence of that with better audio, you'll have yourself some great AA videos.
Thanks man, I'm working on getting better a better lav mic, probably will be able to get it this month or next month! Glad to hear you enjoyed it though c:
Just saw the edit, I actually love sitting in the chair as it makes the filming a lot more comfy and makes me more compact within the video itself, and all in all the editing itself does not increase from my perspective that much compared to standing haha. But, my next video will be 95% me standing because it's gon be a RANT. Thanks for the support though and I seriously appreciate the advice a lot!
Its actually a development issue. AAA devs spend 100s of millions on games now just for them to flop, most devs dont even know how to push the equipment to the limits. Bro people have motion sickness on flat screen games. My friend cant even play cod because it makes him sick. This video is kinda. Meh. Maybe do more research before shitting on the VR community.
First of all, I did not shit on the VR community. Just because I believe VR as it is right now is overrated does not mean it's bad? Just that I personally think it's not as good as people say it is. I also did not say that people only get motion sickness from VR and not from standard monitors, I just said it's a big issue with VR tech right now and lastly. Yeah I agree 100% with you, the development ecosystem needs to improve massively and truly make use of the tech that already exists, and I definitely don't love the AAA dev environment as it is right now, does not take away that I believe that there's a lot of growth to be done still on the tech side. Is it bad? No, not at all, it's become amazing as I mention in the first few minutes of the video, it's just not where I personally feel it should be. Again, I believe it's overrated as it is right now, that doesn't mean that won't change in maybe even a year c:
@iRywo that's understandable, but I don't go off of personal beliefs, I usually lean heavily towards facts. And we have near perfect games like Alex on hardware that's like over 5 years old. So the tech is there. Actually it's been there. It's the developers that need to hone in on there skills. Because the reason we keep getting broken unfinished games is because the little vr bubbles keep praising anything we get without any type of criticism, therefore the devs are okay with releasing nothing but crap because there's no accountability. I understand 100% where your coming from from a belief standpoint. But the reality is completely different.
@@BlujusticeVR alright fair. Honestly negative feedback and for example voting with your wallet (not buying games that just aren't up to a certain standard) should at all times be done to keep the industry moving forward and it definitely is something that the VR industry needs to be better at as like you said, praising everything stalls any growth or improvements. While I understand you lean towards facts, for me the fact remains that only a few truly amazing games for the entire medium have come out in the past 10 years which is definitely a massive issue and why I think all that positivity I see in the community isn't correct. Cheers for having the discussion though! It's always great to learn about it from a slightly different viewpoint. It seems most people from the VR community that have commented agree that the biggest fault lies with the software, not necessarily the hardware.
@iRywo you're 100% right on that. Since VR being still in it's infant stages we only have like 4 or 5 actual good experience that are complete lol. Dang that's sad, but like you said hopefully it only gets better from hear. And yea. I ment no disrespect to the work you do. Just glad we can look at different viewpoints without letting our emotions cloud our judgment. Keep on spreading the info brother. At the end of the day we both want to see our community grow!!
@@BlujusticeVR hell yeah! Honestly both gaming and VR as a medium have so much potential still and I’m so excited to see it all unfold. Thanks for the input too, I appreciate it!
say i wish i was nakeyjakey without saying i wish i was nakeyjakey. Shameless
I'd rather call myself the nakeyjakey we have at home c:
@@raynesalyards5048 Besides sitting in front of green screen and talking about games…?
My gosh, no one can do anything anymore before this kind of person shows up. Now THAT is shameless.