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Francis Fukuyama on Trump 47 | The Good Fight with Yascha Mounk
Francis Fukuyama is a political scientist, author, and the Olivier Nomellini Senior Fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford University. Among Fukuyama’s notable works are The End of History and the Last Man and The Origins of Political Order. His latest book is Liberalism and Its Discontents. He is also the author of the “Frankly Fukuyama” column, carried forward from American Purpose, at Persuasion.
In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Francis Fukuyama discuss how Trump’s 2024 victory repudiates the racial grievance theory of 2016; what a second Trump administration will mean for the rule of law at home and abroad; and the lessons the Democratic Party must learn from its defeat.
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In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Francis Fukuyama discuss how Trump’s 2024 victory repudiates the racial grievance theory of 2016; what a second Trump administration will mean for the rule of law at home and abroad; and the lessons the Democratic Party must learn from its defeat.
Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight.
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Website: www.persuasion.community
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Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion
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Yes, stop infantilizing and protecting students from the messiness & complexity of the real world. What Amna says is exactly what's happening in colleges. Neither side is making a good case for training adult citizens.
Thank you for this
Quite average level… I was expecting a high english level by someone that did Harvard… it feels fishy…
Tabata is hated about several people because she is not radical. She is emotionally and politically balanced person. She is the person that Brasíl and the world need. I think she will be a president in the future.
Trump is doing what he promised and positioning himself to be the anti-speech POTUS. Trump claims that he wants to jail those who have gone against him in any way, and George is perfectly OK with this position, because otherwise he would have said something. Trump claims that the media is the enemy, and George remains silent. Trump claims to be christian and George tells his audience that he is indeed a christian and we should vote for (and now applaud) the least educated, least christian, least rational person who has claimed that he is against free speech. Professionals now fear the social and professional consequences of a Trump presidency. This is TERRIBLE for the democratic republic, terrible for universities. Trump is not for the people ruling themselves, and George knows this. Liberals on campus are concerned, conservatives are appalling their new king. George knows all this. He is so consumed by his religion that he is willing to pretend Trump is a rational choice simply because Trump now claims he is against abortion for political purposes. George is aware that conservatives have the same abortion rate as the national average, but I have not seen him addresses this. The least christian person will soon be in the WH again, and those who claim to be christian are afraid to admit this simple fact. Those claiming to be for freedom of speech know that Trump has and will roll back more freedoms. All this because of a religion, and I am not surprised.
Sam can make me laugh out loud! Grotesque 😂
Hilarious - actually pathetic - reading all the garbage put out here against Fukuyama. But is there a single intelligent or thoughtful criticism of his critics here? Not one that I saw. Why are these ignorant trolls even here? Are these losers so pathetic that they follow Fukuyama around and try to pump themselves up by dissing him? I bet NOT ONE of these shit-for-brains could articulate a problem with his "End of History" thesis, let alone critique anything he wrote afterwards or said here. I've read all Fukuyama's brilliant books (except for Trust) after The End of History. There is a reason he publishes influential books of history and the rest of you trolls smear your own feces on your faces and wonder why people tell you that you smell like shit. Actually, I think we have some serious trolling going on here. Didn't realize the troll farm was so interested in Fukuyama. Poor guy. He is quite brilliant and doesn't deserve morons trolling him, even if they are bots. Anyone wishing to debate me, feel free to try. I know Fukuyama's positions well enough to argue them. So, if you think you've got the chops, bring it on, or STFU!
When can this “end of history” moron shut up?
The problem with Fukuyama’s end of history is that even that history comes to an end. I’m operationally defining history as democratic hegemony, neoliberalism fits, too. It’s the end of Western hegemony.
Don't judge a bikini by its cover, actually read it.
@@subcitizen2012 Ok.
Questions were too long. No point to Interview people if you do most of the talking yourself.
To help Francis understand , the Federal Government is facilitating an invasion of its own territory for some reason. Oddly this Peaks during Democrat rule eras. Now interestingly recent migrants overwhelmingly back Democrats at the ballot box. Are these two phenomenon linked? I wonder. Meanwhile the US government is attempting to protect Ukraines borders.
Até eu que moro em Xique-Xique - Bahia falo um inglês melhor do que a Batata Amaral.
Shorten your questions
Open borders for Israel and no more Jewish democracy enjoy last gasps
This is nuts. Culture more important than economy? People care more about what TV they are watching vs their health care ? This is why the left lost.
Of all the crazy things I’ve seen the last 10 years (and I mean ALL of it) the craziest, by far…is finding out that Fukuyama is still taken seriously.
Taking seriously a sophisticated political philosopher is like the least crazy thing that has happened in a decade filled with lunacy.
How does a quite niche politics podcast end up with a collection of "experts" who know a guy by no more than a 30 year old book title (which they don't quite understand) and not much else, waxing lyrical about how the world is?
I got a better one. how about the crazy SHITHEADS like you who've never read anything by Fukuyama yet think you can just jump on the band wagon and criticize him because of some flaws in one of his theses. Try explaining to me what is wrong with the theses of ANY of his books after The End of History. I've read them. You haven't. Or, if you think you're up to it, debate me on ANY of his books. You can't. you're another big mouth letting out your ignorant stink in the ether.
The crazy thing is you're too young to know how crazy you are for saying that.
Thus proving that you must live in a very sane world. I daresay you've never read a word he's written. Get back to your mother's basement.
Fukuyama 🤦♀️🤦♀️😂🤣😂🤣
Still laughing at Fukayama because you don't know how to read?
Is history over. 😂
History being over has a specific philosophical meaning derived from Hegel. It does not and was never intended at all to mean that events would stop occurring. You probably don't know that, which means you don't even know what you are disagreeing with.
HELL no!
@@redcatofdeath The very idea that liberal democracy would be a sustained and ongoing superior form a government was completely undermined by neo-liberal economic policies. you cant have a democratic republic and at the same time create an oligarchy.
@@dlee732ad The idea is that there is no better form of government beyond liberal democracy. What you are saying doesn't contradict the thesis at all.
@@redcatofdeath so no where and never was Fukuyama on board with neo-liberal policies? If he was then he was grossly disingenuous. Thx for the convesation.
Ho hum! Here we go again with more from Mr. Fukuyama. But he just keeps getting it wrong!!!
Oh, really? Pray tell, where is he wrong? And why are you here if you think he is always wrong? Maybe it's you.
His predictions have all been right. Liberal democratic history ended because we weren't careful about that.
Here Francis, I'll help you out: People love wealth redistribution. Rich people hate it. So they micro-target distractions/propaganda customized to each demographic segment, decapitate populist movements like Sanders' and entrench pro-corporate legal norms to ensure economic mobilization never happens. You're just living in a fantasyland where your ideas are rewarded on merit, when really they're rewarded because they're non-threatening to the powerful.
Why is it always the people who assure us that economics is not a political motivator that get the promotions? 🤔
My spouse was an advertising executive and it is clear to me that Trump was a “created product via public promotion” and still is that product. The American public is inured, even addicted to that sort of promotion so we have bought into a product rather than an authentic person. In folk tales a magical witch dropped crumbs leading lost children into her ovens: are American Republicans the same due to greed?
Very disappointed by the very mundane, superficial take of one of our supposedly high flying intellectuals. The ominous introduction (a rum bottle to celebrate Harris’s victory) and nothing about what the Democrats’ candidate would have brought to the country are not convincing us that we escaped a misfortune. The longing for an extinction of the white chauvinistic male pig has been disappointed but hang on ! the uneducated black lazzy male living on his courageous, schooled and strong girlfriend’ salary might be the next hope. Maybe Francis did indeed drink this bottle of rum. It explains his poor platitudes.
As a rule of thumb (not LAW), it's always wise not to make predictions.
He was right though. The history of liberal democracy and neoliberal capitalism ended.
Look, what is it that you dont understand, the best and the brightest, the most educated have evolved to the point where they want to destroy and discard the very civilization we live in. Then the People have to chose the forces that are willing to protect and preserve,in this case, Western Civilization. And as the case with Trump and the republicans they are less then average and sometimes the worst.
Is no one questioning how Harris had such a huge following and such a huge loss? Is no one questioning why trump was not hiding his crazy views; knowing full well that he had already won before election day? I am normally not a conspiracy theorist, however, this was too far a win for trump to not question it!!!
Black and Hispanic people voted for trump because they wanted the Biden policy hanged And also not diverting money to foreign wars.
There is no difference in any party in America so far foreign policy is concerned. There is only one party or one coin with 2 sides. Some domestic issues may be slightly different But eventually there are all same. Killing innocent in other countries is hobby of both parties and both houses and senators give permission to presidents. Where is humanity??
Out if touch with the sentiments of the lower income groups. Of course Trumps election may not benefit those groups, but their concerns were totally neglected by the Democrats.
Cry baby cry. Time for idiots like Fukuyama has gone. He will soon be a relic and people will baulk as to how his ideas were ever taken seriously
The same thing is going to happen to you.
Fukuyama is an idiot.
Inflation will go down if he drills for more oil and get rid of the foreigners.
The left wing parties don't do anything for the workers. All they do is flood the country with millions of foreigners to vote for them.
Shame on him. The guy who defines the Western Plutocracy going against the Man who will probably break it to become more of a Democracy. Best Team ever with Kennedy and Musk. Does he know what Deep State is? And Mainstream Media? And lies about Biden dementia?
Great discussion!
The intellectuals are completely disconnected from common sense. Their support of everyone who is not us, meaning the Queers, the non whites, the non Judeo-Christians, the Muslims, felt as a big fake. No one likes fakers. Donald Trump is a big liar, but not a faker. He is authentic even in his lies.
😂
Doesnt everybody want to adorn themselves with special beliefs that prove their loyalty to a group? Isnt that what religion is all about? "Costly virtue signaling" where the cost is going against common sense.
They sound like they are totally missing the point to me but maybe that’s just me. But then again I am only living this shit so what do I know.
Exactly. What do you know?
Most people are too dumb to get the point. No offense. It's just how it is. 50% of people are stupider than the other 50%.
these guys are just sociopaths
Is that true or is that just what you've been conditioned to believe by the real sociopaths?
@@subcitizen2012 that is true
Trump will be found out quickly, I think, now that he actually has to govern, make decisions, and take risks. The first big issue will be Ukraine, where he thinks he has some sway over Putin. Watch that one go south pretty quickly. It's going to be an ongoing series of defeats across the world which he will blame others for. We'll see how that works out.
Tabata lied about 90% of what she said.
Francis please read John Mearsheimer so you can learn something. This is the end of “the end of history”.
Agree, since around 2014 we have been slipping towards the Second Cold War, which can be said to have set on at full scale around 2021/22. One of the many differences to the First Cold War is that both the trust of the public for current political leaders and the quality, of said leaders, in the Western world, is now far lower than it was in the 1950s and 60s, or even the 1980s.
@@barumbadum mearsheimer is a mixed bag. He's very correct on some things a very wrong on others- like NATO expansion caused the war in Ukraine. In this he sides with neoliberal capetbagger Jeffrey Sachs.
That's up for debate given history isn't written and history hasn't ended...
Hahahahahaha!!!! One needs to spend about 2 or 3 minutes wtih the clown Mearsheimer to know he is an idiot. If we listened to Mearsheimer, Russia would have taken Ukraine and much of the former soviet satellite states by now. Disagree? Debate me.
Go read Fukayamas book. You're saying exactly what he was saying. Y'all have been misinformed with a meme for 40 years and it's pathetic.
In politics, no political party can cover all different demographics priorities. And I insist in the word priority. Because the tenants from which Presidential elections should be related is to subjects of governance, economy and international relations. These tenants affect all citizens regardless if these are a priority or not for certain groups, and the judgement of those by the electorate will ultimately determine elections. BUT.., if your public policy is grounded on identity politics and wokism, BY DEFAULT you're eliminating major sectors of the population in which not only you're not addressing in your political platform, but what's worst, you're labeling them as a problem for society. You will never be able to win an election by marginalizing main demographics like Men and Whites. It's simply impossible.
You are right and both of these academics rail against identity politics and wokeism. There are so many videos and writings where they do this yet they are tarred with these labels.
Then why did has the Republican party focused so strongly on eliminating the rights of minorities of its unpopular?
@subcitizen2012 I suspect the answer to your question is because minorities ended up not believing the narrative that Trump was going after their rights. On the same fashion that they probably don't believe in same sex marriage, transitioning children, feminism and critical race theory. I'm almost positive that this unbelief is way more predominant on Hispanics segment of the population which is the largest minority in the United States. And it's because Hispanics hold a more conservative cultural frame versus all other minorities with the exception of asiatic ones. And right know I would take the risk that probably more than anglo americans.
Each generation repeats its leaders. Each sees men endowed with superior inventiveness, energy, and genius for business, inspired by love of power and possession, launch selfish schemes-Carnegies, Rockefellers, Goulds…Each generation has had its Henry George, its Bellamy, its Bryan, intent on persuading mankind that he had found the way, could lead men to the good life. In each generation employer and employee have faced the decision-war or cooperation. Ida Tarbell, All in the Day's Work (1939)
Positive ideas: re-institution of traditional values. I like when Trump says that no serious country perduades children that they were born inside a wrong body.
Why didn't Democrats simply falsify the results like they did last time when even the dead voted Biden?
Fukuyama is not relevant again. Those so called Harvard Ivy League profs have their brains to be democrats whatever happens.
Alright genius. instead of sounding like you're even dumber than Trump, let's hear your criticism of Fukuyama's theses. I haven't had a good laugh yet today.
All my Heaven, this fortune-teller is back again, what is his prediction this time, as of China’s failure for the last 25 years per his Doctrine/propaganda? Patronize the US's fake Greatness to gain fame as an acclaimed China-Bashing, Smearing Campaign salesman. What did he get up his sleeve for this run of his sales???? This man's craving for US's Pat on Shoulder blinded his mind, knowledge, education, world view. Most of all, his integrity and moral compass.
30:30 Britain and Australia do not have national ID cards but still manage to do the checks described; Oxford the last time I checked is in the UK.
Your point here was not refuted by Mounk or Fukuyama, so what are you talking about?
Maybe now you Americans would understand that absolute democracy can be its own undoing because it empowers the majority to put autocrats on the throne. My nation faced the same danger when a populist took over the country through the ballot, appointed his favored judges in the supreme court and attempted to alter the constitution to position himself as the permanent head of the state like Putin or Xi. But the opposition came together and with a bit of help from the military, that sensed the imminent danger, overthrew him and saved the country. Of course you people would see this as an attack on democracy but look where that thinking has gotten you. You have let your democracy hand your trifecta to a man who tried to start a civil war when power was taken from him, who wants to change your constitution to stay in power indefinitely, and who wants revenge from his detractor. And the majority of the country has enabled him to do all that and more. You people should be more scared than you are for what is coming. Unless your nation steps down from its democratic pedestal Trump will stay on the throne not just for the next four years but for all his years.