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Thanks so much! JD

@@JackMasonLive you know, I think you 100% right! This was an early video for me - apologies for wasting your time, I’ll do a better job on the next one! Thanks for your honesty JD

@@jamiedurrantmusician I appreciate your humility, brother! sorry if I came across sideways. Much love...JM

@@JackMasonLive no all good, and I should re-edit and re-mix this one - have a good one!

Elisey's fav

@@jessetimmmiller1870 yeah the Chilton is more clean and open, Yamaha certainly more darker… soon I have an old PM-430 arriving here - that can be fatter and darker and have some great distortion tonality for a vintage hip-hop drum tone - some showcasing to come on the channel soon, plus next week another full recording made via a 1604.

@@Ville-nr3mc are you a bot? If only I had a sausage roll

​@@jamiedurrantmusician I'm not I just think that you are goated with the sauce

​@@jamiedurrantmusician also waffle

@@Ville-nr3mc lol

Let's do it man...

ha! Don't well all spend a lot of dosh over time!

@@recordingwhiz appreciate that, we were surprised at the outcome - happy!

@@azzman888 cheers! Thank you, now it’s back to work lol

Why thank you!

I've sold this desk now, so cannot look them up ... however there may be specs floating about, I'll have a hunt

Good to know, what card / interface do you run with it?

Whatever allows you to make a GREAT performance is what matters NO bleed or technical issues

@@jamiedurrantmusician 100percent right. THANKS

@@BenjaminKanarek thanks for the v kind word, appreciated- this SM desk is relatively light

@@marrerowski great player, good mics and console

@@marrerowski and that’s a small room, 4 mics and NO reverb FX, totally dry - the power of Glyn Johns mic technique

RE Kiedis, think I'm wrong, as I was thinking of the Funky Monks film, but he had cans on... but as for Bono, this was in the Being Mick (Jagger) film, which is not online anywhere free, order a DVD on Amazon. Also check out this photo of Prince's setup at Sunset sound! goldiesparade.co.uk/sunset-sound-studios/

@@jamiedurrantmusician thaanx bruh🌸🌸🌸

Big thank you!!

@@studio_confluence sure makes sense - where are you based?

@@drenolynbeats amazing

@@chrisgates7756 cheers bloke, surprisingly good, wow

@@gerbenwesterveld5193 glad you like it, Hoping to update you soon in it’s progress

@@markussaarinen5043 bit of a dark horse but yeah

ha ha yes, wait is the key word !! Took a lot of editing, yikes! We're wrapped with the sound, the desk rocked it

Ha! Great story!!! Gig wise, we will be in the future, yes… some structure for set lists happening in next few weeks and then into some rehearsals I think… goal might be an original show mixed with some classic guitar based blue and rock

@@endlesspresident thanks for the kind words, always appreciated!

Thanks legend! ❤🤙🥁

@@JohnDoe-pq8yw mich appreciated

Sounds great - glad you like the video

Yes I’m well aware it’s a consumer machine however it is still enough to hear the magic of tape - that’s the point. If I had a spare $24,000 AUD I’d go buy the only Ampex mastering machine available in the country… on another note, I’ll soon be using an Otari MX5050 at 15ips… and even then, Im aware this is not a mastering machine, rather a pro dubbing machine used in radio… stay happy, Jamie !

@@jamiedurrantmusician The MX5050 sounds quite nice, and it's affordable for normal people. It's not for everyone to own a Studer 820. They are just stupid expensive.

@@toonertik ha ha

Share a pic!!

In this case, routing was all done via the console. This does add another layer of warmth but nothing like what tape can do for achieving that silky top end and mix glue effect!

So chain was REM converters out > Chilton 2 channels line in, no EQ > direct Chilton channels out > Teac Tape Machine inputs > Teac Monitor outputs > another set of Chilton 2 channels line in, no EQ. So effectively, what we hear difference wise is ONLY the tape.

@@jamiedurrantmusician Nice. Is the tape effect maintained once it goes back through the converters DA into your DAW?

@@henryafterall Yes, if running 24bit 48k conversion - or higher, the tape effect and smoothness is captured as an effect. As I mentioned in the video, in the 90s mastering engineer Don Bartley at EMI Studios 301 would run mixes through the EMI console, then via GML mastering EQ and Compressor, and then to an Ampex mastering tape machine. The output of this was then captured via and Apogee AD-500, which was 44.1khz for CD mastering, but even this device was smooth enough to represent the analog effect in digital form. Now days any modern Apogee (including the first generation Quartet that I'm using), or Lynx or RME 24bit converters can do the job well.

@@stevedoesnt well they have been cleaned internally with Deoxit

Later this week!!

Hi great video, I’ve the 16 4 2 same as this without the vu meters the eqs on them are amazing ❤️

@@anthonyellis5517 our demo recording worked so well, more on this shortly

@@jamiedurrantmusicianI look forward to it ❤ I stumbled on your channel wile looking at a chilton 10 came up for sale it was selling for pennies but then went on eBay and sold well out my price range 😢 but I’ve had a studio master 16 4 2 about 15 years ago it was a great desk sadly it was stolen I’ve since bought another but needs some work my bus 1-2 and master channels don’t work I’ve checked the faders 🎚️ and they are fine but if anyone could point me in the right direction of what the problem could be I’d appreciate any advice thank you, and I love your videos.

Very very good point and true… thank you for this I’ll do some research on the vocal mics and mics from AKG of the era!

@@jamiedurrantmusician In fact, D20 and D25, almost the same misc, (i don't know, if D12 too) was designed for broadcast purposes. There are lot of pics with them made in TV studios.

@@DoopekLasica like I said, I’ll do some research, interesting

@@MrStubat I appreciate your view, and there are points I agree with, however based on the brilliant record tone, which will be highlighted in my next video I strongly believe this Studiomaster model should not be disregarded! I’ve heard many others stating that later models were terrible. While this is not a Neve, far from it, it’s also far from being rubbish. We achieved killer 80s drum sounds with this desk, and the tones really impressed us! Forget faders, forget noise floor and all the tech talk - it can be a wonderful production tool. It worked for New Order in the 80s too!

@@jamiedurrantmusician yeh I get it,but I used a lot of these type of desks back in the day, and the 200b and 400-800b even more were just so far in front of the pack in every way and they’re basically doorstops now. Some of those other cheap desks like the MM evenhad unbalanced inputs and the Soundtraks preamp was straight into the inputs of a 5534. We had our own Aussie made Jands JM5 and JM6. I can’t get nostalgic about any of them TBH, the Soundcraft really tried to be a high standard of quality, and easy maintainence with its modular approach and the last one of those I owned I couldn’t get $100 for. They’re not Neves, they’re not studio quality preamps or eq.

@@MrStubat I hear you but honestly I recorded and produced several tracks at Sing Sing in the late 80s on a sound craft console and I found the preamps and EQ thin and hard… I just hated the sound. I know the 5534s are more Hifi and faster as others have commented and were also used in SSLs but I also dislike SSLs for tracking. I’m just chasing a different sound.

@@MrStubat tell me pls, with the Soundcraft consoles, what sort of work were you doing? We’re you a live engineer? I think reliability and functions in certain situations matter a great deal.

@jamiedurrantmusician keep up with these console videos , all the dudes that have invested so heavily in top notch h gear seem to have a real problem finding value in different pallets, so don’t pay any mind to all that. You’re doing the lords work man!

@@robertopistolesi2735 yes I didn’t mention noise - certainly not a clean class A desk

@@robertopistolesi2735 I have zero noise on mine, but I use direct outs only

amazing thank you!

FOR SURE!!!!

Oh the Otari MX5050?

@@olivergretz yes all correct! It’s not noise free and it’s darker sounding due to those 741s which is a good sound for certain music productions.

They used them because they were cheap lowend consoles

2 famous Neve consoles that are an example of a vintage Neve classic and modern Neve classic are the 8078 ic version, and the Neve 88r also an ic based console In reality tho and I’m sure everyone that’s had a Neve and looked into all of it knows well, repairs happen all the time on the vintage non ic modules, heat and other issues were far more common in terms of repairs, especially because of the Class A topology current requirements. Rupert would gage the truth of pre-amp circuit via holding his hand over the unit for a few minutes, and could tell if it was class a, as he said, tho half joking he had a point. I’ve had an IC Neve from 1978 for 15 years and the channels over their 40 year life have only been recapped, no other repairs, that absolutely wouldn’t be the case if it was the older transistors modules.

That is one cool comment over here! All the best, Tobi

@@niallmacdonald2710 ha! As I said in this video - it’s NOT a Neve, but my comparison is about heat generated by ICs and which one cooks the capacitors

True, the IC consoles are the true cookers ... however the large metal transistors in the 80xx consoles did have heat sinks

@@jamiedurrantmusician yes i know that my modules have heatsinks at the transistor, but the console still doesn't get hot.

@@pongmaster123 Have you left it on for a day in winter in a seal room?

Nice one ... getting there, synth all complete now!

Hi Peter, thank you for the detail - such an amazing comment. And I love New Order !! So where are you based? That sounds like a serious mod but cool. Huge effort. And yes them bus bars are ridiculous - what were they thinking? FFS

cost saving can ONLY be the answer!

​@@jamiedurrantmusician I am stateside...The bus bars do provide some structural stability to the cards, which can protect the pots from failing on these primitive PCBs with their weak traces. The pots can and will fail anyway, but worse, the bars will fail, and in researching what people had done to these some didn't realize the bars had failed, or worse, that solder drooled down from them onto other traces, and so they found that star grounding the setup helped, but it almost certainly was just the bus bars weren't in good contact across the entire assembly and they didn't realize that. If you do have to do maintenance these things are the primary challenge, you will be best served perhaps clamping the board upright as you work...really a design disaster, and ribbon cables and molex connectors already existed at that time. Tedious to do a retrofit but certainly worth it overall. As were the rest of the mods, I'm just having fun with electronics and music more than making wise investments in time and money!

@@PeterJensen7 I hear ya! Bus bars in this desk and pots all perfect thankfully