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200w is hypothetical. Since the input is limited to ~8A, you will never get close to 200w with standard 18v solar panels. You also mention Las Vegas - and I'm guessing it's quite hot there.. well heat lowers the voltage of solar panels, so the actual voltage going into the Jackery is probably around 16v (16v @ 8A is 128w). If you can find some higher voltage panels (VOC must be below 32v) you should be able to increase the input. And try charging in the morning sun when temperatures are cooler. Also reducing the distance between the solar panels and the Jackery or using heavy gauge cables can also help (slightly) as well.

@@SoGenFan thank you for your quick response.

Don't connect different spec solar panels together - you will always be limited to what the lowest spec panel can produce th-cam.com/video/0oa96V7WeXQ/w-d-xo.html What's the spec on the 230w panel? Have you tried just using that? You might get more power WITHOUT the other 90w panels.

@@SoGenFan Not if you use 2 MPPT controllers and wire the battery connections to the same battery. That works fine.

Right.. but the Oscal isn't just a battery - it has it's own MPPT controller. If you can get another identical 230w panel and connect them in series and feed that straight into the Oscal without using your standalone MPPT controller (and forego the 90w panels) you should get close to 400w input.

That new 240 v2 confuses me the most - nearly identical to the 300 Plus... maybe it spells the end for it? The original "300" was one of their best products and still is in many ways better than the 300 Plus, so perhaps they will just keep the old 300 around?

I think the 300 Plus is staying. It is available in Japan too. In Canada for some reason at Best Buy it is called the 280 Plus. But, you could be right too. They only had the 700 Plus for a short time. The 1000 Pro is only available in certain places but not Jackery's website. They "disappeared" that model but the other Pro ones are advertised. I've only been following Jackery for the past year or so. My impression is there were multiple similar models in the 200-350 range and around the 500 range. I didn't understand the past history, but it seemed like too many similar ones to me. I guess they are going back to that way with their models. :-(

I think you and me are in the minority... most people just want the biggest inverter they can get. And I do see the appeal of having atleast 1 power station than can power big loads.. but for off-grid / solar power, it just makes more sense to go the efficient route! 😎 And I wish Jackery would include additional 12v ports - like the old 500 model. Atleast the car socket is there, for the 12v appliances you mentioned.

To me it's no contest - get the Delta 2 (or something similar - I say that only because Ecoflow doesn't have the best reliability reputation, even though I haven't had any issues with mine but the internet says otherwise 🤷‍♂️). The reason I advise against the Yeti 700 (as your sole power source) is it is way too limited. 600w inverter is too small for cooking UNLESS you are willing to collect a bunch of small low-wattage appliances specifically for the Yeti 700. See my video here: th-cam.com/video/l-bu4-3lHrc/w-d-xo.html The solar is also limited on the Yeti. 200w vs 500w for the Delta 2, and the D2 can accept higher voltage, which also gives additional flexibility when choosing solar panels. And finally there is more battery capacity in the D2 as well. But the Yeti will be much more efficient (at small loads), but with so much less capacity and less ability to charge it back up via solar, I'm not sure it matters too much. Other models to consider are the Bluetti AC70 which has a 1000w inverter / ~800wh LiFePO4 battery and 500w solar. Those specs put it half way between the D2 and Yeti 700. And you can more easily find cooking appliances that a 1000w inverter can handle. It is currently more expensive than the D2 though (at this time D2 is $599 on Amazon) but I've seen Bluetti sell the AC70 for even less. If you can wait, I would wait until July for Amazon Prime Day. These power station companies always have crazy good deals then 👍 The last option would be to get a small Yeti now (maybe just the 500), and wait until GZ releases a larger 1000 Yeti with LiFePO4 cells.

Interesting, thanks for the info. A dedicated intake fan and a dedicated exhaust fan is still a good setup. My old Goal Zero Yeti had an extra little fan about midway inside, but it was a very wide unit. Perhaps it would be unnecessary in a more compact unit like the F800.

The problem is Goal Zero typically doesn't send out "free" units to TH-camrs for review like every other company.

65 - 85w depending on temp (more on cold days - less on HOT days). It performs well and as expected. Note you will need a power station than can input atleast 4 amps to get the most power (some older models can only do 3 or 3.5 amps). Also the VOC is a little higher than standard 18v or 20v solar panels (it's 24v). So the power station should also be able to accept 28v to play it safe. (Also this is with MPPT power station)

Yea this is definitely a great companion if you have one of their drones. And since all power stations have limitations, it's always a good idea to buy a few different ones anyways.

Thanks - I appreciate the comment!

Yes you can, and it will have very little impact on battery life, since it will be charging at less than 100w and output will also be low and intermittent, which should prevent internal battery temps from getting too high (as long as the temperature inside the car doesn't get too hot). Park in the shade, use a windshield reflector, place the Jackery in a shaded area in the car (but still with good ventilation for the internal fans - do not block the side vents).

@@SoGenFan hey, i appreciate the fast and informative response, thank you.

Thanks for the tip about the J600P. Looks like it still has the same exact design as the other models. Hopefully they try something new soon. And in theory, they should be able to firmware update a charging speed option in.

Yep, I agree I would think they could add it. They "claim" with the app they can do firmware updates but so far haven't had one. (vs EcoFlow over the past year I've had a few for both EF's I own.)

The problem I think, is that Jackery wants to maintain an "easy to use" experience. So if you need to update the firmware or if there are too many options in the app, people that are unfamiliar with these things might find it overwhelming etc. It makes sense and I see the appeal of simplicity. 😎

Sorry for the delay in replying. I think that could be a piece of it for sure. The crazy thing is the app has this charging control for other units. But to your point, for example, Jackery gets flack for the DC8020 connection, but my spouse totally can deal with the solar setup with this vs a bunch of MC4 connectors. (XT60 is fine though too for her). I understand why MC4's and that cabling are preferred by many. Thanks for the replies!

What's funny about this is, this is the argument I used to make back when all power stations had NMC batteries (with "only" 500 cycles). Nobody wanted to spend $$ on something that had a battery that wasn't going to last. Of course I tried to explain that the standardize test is a bit harsh - doing full cycles at high C rates, which is an unlikely use case in the real world. And of course even at the rated cycles, you would still have 80% of new capacity. Then LiFePO4 batteries started to appear and everybody wanted to buy these "long-lasting" power stations lol. Yeah so basically even in power stations with NMC batteries, your comment is most likely applicable (and this video was made referencing a NMC power station and meant for users with NMC power stations - if you have LFP it is not necessary although I still recommend against leaving a LiFePO4 / LFP battery SITTING at either 100 or 0%).

Yes that would be perfect.

Yes it does. That is how I used it with my Bluetti.

@@SoGenFan Perfect, thanks for the quick reply 👍

What about a C1000 and a C800? (Instead of buying the expansion battery) Since the expansion battery isn't much use without the C1000, buying a second power station is always a good idea and you will have 2X the Output ports, 2X the charging ability, in addition to more capacity. Unless you can get the expansion battery for SUPER cheap of course.

That's the secret!

@@SoGenFan I always found that if electric blankets were making me warm, my sleep didn't seem right. The electric blanket was more to keep the chill away and let body heat and regular blankets do their job.

No parallel connections on this model. DC passthrough is almost a certainty, but I can't confirm. AC bypass is supported up to 1440w.

I haven't, but if this sells well I would think that a more powerful version with 240v would be next 👍

Nice! I'm curious as well.

Just turn it off and back on, it's just over-current protection and it's letting you know it had to cut power to protect itself.

I just got it a while ago so idk how to off it