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about janeway ordering chakotay to keep the alliance: its just a standard order. personal feelings dont matter, you obey the order, and janeway knew the borg was going to betray them anyway. keeping the alliance going as long as possible gives us more time to prepare. its such a basic thing that chakotay disobeying such a thing would have him busted down to cadet for stupidity.

also, about the mobile emitter, it was recorded in history as having existed all along, thats why they left it be, as removing it would have altered the timeline too much.

my idea is that, as the captain, its her *sole* responsbility for the actions of her crew. as a future episode shows, she feels a lot of guilt, so it could manifest in getting the crew home at any cost, even if it means shes in prison for the rest of her life.

So given how Holo people get treated like nothing, I remember Blitzwing from Transformers Animated. Blitzwing was given 3-split personalities, and was seen as a mental condition as a triple-changer experiment. An added form. If the holos ARE just puppets, what of the puppeteer? Is the SHIP a being of freewill? What about that projector, did Odo and J.Dax play to a skitsophinic computer? Wow, so this is why those 2(?) were on the away mission.

points for using a picture of David Mitchell, "Are we the Baddies?"

This is one of those episodes where you get basically the same thing on other shows too, the StarGate SG1 episode Revisions jumps to mind but I actually enjoyed this one much better. The SG1 version was far more a coutionary tail about overreliance on technology where as this one is far more hopeful. This also has has the added layer of the holograms and odo being a changingly generally makes this far more a rewarding.

Casting an actor known for playing a killer(Chucky) is interesting though Suder is a much more interesting character, In his 2 appearances he had more depth than Chucky has had, ever.

"Won't be the last time" except it is... Non-canon novels do not count. Unless Lower Decks makes the choice before it ends, I guess.

the only island or contient large enough to sustain a civilization and be isolated is india. but only after the deccan traps stopped exploding.

They did this whole episode again a few years later on ENT. Rene Auberjonois was in that one too. Both episodes are a bit meh but the ENT one is worse. And I like ENT.

you have a lot of courage to rank this episode lower than threshold, of all things, wow, it must be extremely crappy, to you-

This wasn't *change*. This was a big red reset button to prevent a new race in the alpha quadrant for other shows to need to deal with.

about the fact that children being born and have their jobs chosen for them: thats *extremely common* and used to be enforced in some countries as a caste system. its wrong, but not illegal.

I like the episode but the fanservice is hit or miss. They brought back many of the ST6 actors to keep the scenes consistent, Janice Rand returns, Kang returns... But Nichelle Nichols declined to appear because it was "not a big enough part" meaning she wanted more screen time. And all the small plot inconsistencies(which may be argued as Tuvok's memory being faulty), as well as dancing around Tuvok being on the ship yet not in the film at any point.

Ramrod's sculpture at 08:16 is called a "great rhombicuboctahedron", if anyone was curious.

I thought Tom's dad looked way too old. I did like this episode because of the character Reg Barkley. Everything always works out for the best in his bumbling way.

Another conundrum about sentient holograms... since they are essentially data, stored in a ship's computer, does that make setting the ship's self-destruct sequence murder? I think Sisko's understanding of Jake is really rooted in his own experience: his father (who we'll meet later) raised him to be a chef, but he joined Starfleet. Now it's his turn to watch as his son charts his own course. And because he's such a great dad, it's never an issue for him.

heh... tuvok and his 47 pages of neelix bashing...

to be honest, i thought it was the right choice. he was, after all, a total accident.

who says toms character arc is wasted? its all true and genuine, after all.

The scene with Kira and Bashir was odd, we didn’t see him again in this episode so what was the point of it.

this was the first episode of any star trek that i watched. its still among my favorite episodes of all time.

i dont think voyager, or any ship for that matter, has ejectable rooms.

yoiu do raise several very good points. but, i could argue that they know all of this, but since the ship would break right now if they didnt get the thing, they probably had no choice. its still a bad plot hole, though. there should be like, 3 huge containers full of that stuff in a secure room somewhere, or it should ahve been made with the tools onboard the ship from other, more common, materials.

He was intended not just to be El-Aurian but also one of Guinan's 20 children. Whoopi Goldberg was not available for a cameo so it was cut.

I love Odo episodes. Being on the spectrum, feeling like the alien in the room is *extremely relatable*. I adore Sisko and Jake's relationship. It's so lovely to see a healthy, functional family on tv and even better to see a happy family of colour.

I like that Sisko doesn’t mind that Jake doesn’t want to join Starfleet. Although I’d still have him work with O’Brien for now, as knowing technical stuff about the thing you live on is never a bad idea, and it’d have come in handy in the season finale…

11:22 Ahhhh yes. "This is not the last you will see of me." said Kai Opaka in the last on screen appearance she will ever make in Deep Space Nine.

Jake definitely not in that group. Sisko is the best :)

14:00 That's a damned good point. Its not the only time things go sideways due to crap leftover from the occupation days, either. But good call, hearkening back to unexploded landmines and such. Its obvious when you mention it but I'd never thought of it until you brought it up.

The Kid probably died during the siege of Cardigan fighting as a conscript. How's that for mistreatment?

The surprise endings of star trek episodes back then is want made them so good.

so space dog and co are in a timeline where starfleet was formed by french canadians.

I had forgotten the slow buildup of the dominion till I started watching this series, can’t wait to see your reviews of all the things to come

get a job...

Surely Dax and Odo shouldn't just turn up unannounced on a planet without confirmation that they've got warp capability due to the prime directive, or is that just convenient plot? Also, as dull as I find Jake as a character, I'm glad to see that he has no interest in joining Starfleet, its something I find that nearly every child of a Trek character ends up doing. Good to see that they're doing something different here.

Sounds perfectly fine Space Dog! I liked this episode when I saw it. You could tell the writers were trying to build a bigger story. People at the time linked DS9 to B5 for obvious reasons. I liked Sisko's reaction to Jake. In a stereotypical show, there would have been some pushback and drama to Jake's decision. Instead Sisko acted like a rational adult who loves his son.

The Ben and Jake relationship in DS9 is wonderful. x

The sleep wear civilisation.

One thing that stuck out to me was Binface acting like a transporter was tech he never saw before and then saying he checked for a transporter signal when investigating. Always kinda sticks with me on this one.

This one reminds me of my mother, she prefers pretty lies over harsh truths. Thanks for another great review 💚🌹💚you are appreciated

Hey Unlimited, Odo says he doesn't do faces very well yet the mouse faces he did "Past Prologue" & "The Circle" were exquisite, also "plain, simple" Garak has been lecturing Bashir on surveillance techniques!

The existense of Taya implies the existense of Retaya

The vanishing holo-town is another one of those "From the TNG plot pile" storylines. It would have worked just as well with Data and Troi or Geordi. The result is highly enjoyable nonetheless. Odo and Dax rarely got to spend any time together, which is a shame because they have interesting chemistry together.

I think Ben Sisko's natural presumption that Jake would want to join Starfleet may be because Jake has literally been in Starfleet since he was born, from a certain point of view, that is.

3:53 ...and that's not the only docking manoeuvre he's planning on performing.

the fact that they have an old man playing a child is quite the unique choice in fiction. i've seen the reverse several times, elves or witches in a fantasy setting are often depicted as artificially youthful

My last 4 comments are (at time of writing) all listed as "0 sec ago." And yet it feels as if re-watching the sceans, checking the timestamps, typing comments out and re-reading them before submission, took longer than that. (?) Edit: O.K., now it's updated the submission times.

0:12 Dax and Odo haven't worked together for a while, and Sisco likes to assign random people into teams, for his own amusement.

10:29 What is the significance of this action? Well, ever since Odo claimed to be a shapeshifter, Taya was pestering him to prove it, but he identifies as a shapeshifter and doesn't have to prove anything to her. (No one asks her to prove she's a little girl) He doesn't want to be a novelty, a form of entertainment. He wants to be accepted as a person. When she's no longer asking for a performance, and she appreciates him instead for the results of his investigative skills, then he doesn't mind doing a thing that will amuse her.