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Same here! Have fun, stay fast and be safe! 🏁 Hope to see you at COTA.

I’m glad you like your interior. It’s well documented that the switches, leathers, plastics and painted surfaces in the 996 are not as durable as those on the 993, or the 997 that replaced it. I also owned a 996 which is the car in the video, and also a 997 and the 997 materials are definitely of higher quality. But the 996 is a fantastic 911 and is even more fun to drive than the models that followed it. Thanks for watching, subscribing and commenting!

You’re never too young to email. I used to write letters and send them out snail mail. Sometimes I got responses. I assume you’re accomplished at karting? Verstappen and Norris signed their F1 development deals very young, as early as age 15 or 16. So at 11 if you have video of your karting accomplishments, by all means share them online! The best way to work into a racing career at your age is to demonstrate you are faster around the tracks than the other guys and to put together small businesses that will sponsor your racing in exchange for awareness and recognition. Good luck! Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing your thoughts! 🏁

@@GTSCarLife hey I do not I always wanted to go kart when I was little but this time is my time I’m doing sim racing one I get into karting I would make karting video but some day I’ll send emails or right now thanks

Well thank you for watching, subscribing and sharing your thoughts. Have you owned a 997? Obviously you like your 991 and that’s great. As I started the video by saying, all 911 are great. I demonstrated some of the specific features and design elements of the two generations, and based on the criteria of which was the better sports car, offered my opinion. Cheers!

What XC70? Thanks for watching!

I said the last thing In want to do is fill my tire with fix a flat gunk. I stand by that. It makes a mess of your valve stem, wheels, everything. I carry a plug kit because if I need to repair a flat on my own, I simply plug the hole and use the factory supplied compressor to fill it back up. Presto. So yeah, I actually do think before I speak. Thanks for watching.

@@GTSCarLife If the nail is closer to the outside of the tire, we can see it, a plug kit can be used; but most of the times it is impossible to use a plug kit without first removing the wheel(s). Do you also keep a car jack for lifting the car to remove the wheel(s)? Which brand plug kit are you using for your tires?

@@ClarkIsraeli For front tires, just turn the steering wheel and you can see and access. For rear, just move the car forward or back a bit until you see it from the rear. There is plenty of space to work if you need to.

We agree. I also just purchased a 2011 987.2 Cayman S manual- what a fantastic sports car! Thank you for watching, subscribing and sharing your experience.

All true. Each new generation of Porsche can be counted on to be faster, stick better and brake shorter. And cost more! So had this been a comparison on performance, the results would have been flipped. But the question was, which 911 is the best sports car, the best 911. The newer generations, starting with the 991 have transformed more into luxury sports coupes and lost the traditional sports car characteristics. This week, the head of Porsche design himself admitted the 911 has gotten too big and he wants to figure out how to make them smaller again. And the market clearly places a premium on the 997 over the 991 and 992. And have you seen what’s happening with 996 prices!!! Thank you for watching, subscribing and sharing your thoughts.

The driver is actually a very accomplished professional. He was driving the heck out of that car! It was a rare error on his part that I was all too happy to take advantage of! Thanks for watching, subscribing and commenting!

Nvm u answered it 😅

NASA. Join NASA for an HPDE1 track day event. NASA is a sanctioning body and runs at tracks nationwide so you can grow with them and you won’t likely outgrow them anytime soon. You’ll work your way up through HPDE 1,2,3 and 4, then into TimeTrial and then earn your Competition License through them. Local tracks include MSRC, Hallet, COTA and MSRH. From there you’ll be able to enter races with them and a host of other sanctioning bodies nationwide. The sooner you start, the faster you’ll get there! Thanks for watching, subscribing and contributing to the conversation.

Congratulations on your new 997.2 C2 S. I believe you made the right decision- the 997.2 was the final, best evolution of what I, and many professionals and enthusiasts alike- believe to be the greatest generation of 911 ever. The 991 was more of a luxury coupe, and no longer a traditional sports car. Values support that a majority of 911 buyers feel the same. As for your 2 Caymans, they too are fantastic sports cars, livelier and in some ways even more fun to drive. I assume your other Cayman was a 987? I just purchased a 2011 987.2 Cayman S and will be releasing a video on that one very soon. Thank you for watching, subscribing and sharing your experience. Let us know your thoughts on your new 911 after you’ve received it!

@@GTSCarLife Thank you, my 1st Cayman was a fun 2008 base Gen1. Was scared of the engine so traded up to a 2014 gen2. I actually enjoyed the 08 without bell & whistles more than the 2014 (fully loaded), and yes with electric emergency brake... Looking forward to seeing the video on your Cayman.

I love this! Thank you for sharing your story! You are why I made this video. The Miata is truly a fantastic race car (I worked for Mazda for 5 years) and the series it competes in is perhaps the biggest and most competitive in the world. You are about to have so much fun! Let me know if you make it out to Texas. See you out there! 🏁

Sounds like fun! 🏁 Where do you run? Hey, thanks for watching, commenting and subscribing. I appreciate you.

@@GTSCarLife I was just having some fun with your post. But I thought that your vid was pretty much spot on, so keep it up! 👍 I'm in the North East, so I try to hit up all of the big tracks here, WGI, LRP, NJMP, Palmer and some others, and typically just instruct at HPDEs with FCA, BMW, PCA, SCDA, and some other clubs. I mean, going back to my post, it even costs me over $5k a year in tires, brakes, gas, hotels, etc. despite having the events free. Moreover, a Nico Rosberg vid was recommended to me after you, and he said that a top tier 12 year old Go-Karting season in Europe costs in excess of $250k Euros....Crazy!

@dvas2686 I am from the D.C. area originally. Lots of great tracks in the east. We have one up north from DFW in Jennings, OK called Hallet that reminds me of the vintage eastern tracks. The main straight flys right past a restaurant. Definitely one of my favorites. I watch Nico as well, he’s a fun guy. And I hear he once beat Lewis Hamilton on track in equal machinery 😎 Like anything, if you want it bad enough you can find a way. It’s been done. And if you have deep pockets, then yes, it’s easy to spend a lot. But getting a license is pretty easy. What you do with it depends on the individual and of course a little luck. Hey, if you ever want to instruct a weekend at COTA hit me up. Thanks for watching!

@@GTSCarLife Agreed, if you want it bad enough, it can be done. I have many friends who started as HPDE students, graduated to Instructing and have now been club racing Spec Miatas, E46 M3s, etc. A close friend, through sheer determination, went from HPDEs in his late teens, to Club Racing, to winning an AER Championship, to getting a drive in IMSA for a year. Another close friend - who was lucky, and more importantly talented enough - to go through Skip Barber at 16, race against Danica Patrick and AJ Allmendinger in the Junior series, and get a test in Indy/Cart. It's also helpful to point out that beyond spec racing, club racing, SCCA, and the wide range of semi-pro and professional racing series, there's also other opportunities to get wheel to wheel. There's also go-karting, Lemons and other lower cost categories. Finally, there is an option to rent a seat with an established team and be one of multiple drivers per car, in something like AER. And assuming, you don't crash, it's a low commitment option where you can do a race here or there and not have to buy and maintain your own car and do a full year. So, for sure, where there's a (very strong) will, and (hopefully lots of your own, family, or others) money, there is a way to make it happen. Thanks for the offer at COTA. It's certainly on my bucket list but a long drive without currently having a trailer. In the meantime, let me know if you're ever in the North East, especially at Lime Rock, which is really my home!

You don't like the outcome, so your automatic go-to is to accuse the person of saying it with being something. How is that working for you in life? I can afford to own and drive any 911 I want. I chose the best one for my use - a street model with track chops, that is still small enough to feel like a sports car instead of a personal luxury coupe. If the 991 or 992 came out better, I would have that instead. As I literally say in my opening line, all 911s are awesome, but only one can be considered the best. The market and my fellow automotive experts and journalists agree the 997 is the greatest generation, whether you understand that or not. Have a great day!

@@GTSCarLife ‘the best’ for a guy that spends his days often on the track. That is my issue with this review. Most people drive exclusively on the street, and then your conclusion is way off in my opinion.

@Lecruque Ok, fair enough. But most of the areas where I found fault with the 991 affect it in daily driving use and traditional sports car feel. The 991, as I stated, is actually superior on track. Each new generation of Porsche 911 always improves on performance and track times.

@@GTSCarLife ok, thanks for the explanation!

@Lecruque Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing your thoughts. All 911 are great!

All exciting cars for sure. What was your favorite Corvette? Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing your experience.

@@GTSCarLife '63 split window (friend had one in mid-70s) and sold it for peanuts before they soared in value. Of my own, 2016 C7.R yellow convertible, 44 made, totally decked, all options and carbon fiber. 650hp/650t

@dirkpalmer1067 At least you didn’t convert the split window to ‘64 style. Kills me that many owners did that! You’ve owned some truly awesome cars. Living right sir. Thanks for watching!

@GTSCarLife it was my friend's 63, but true!!! I'm just a retired vet who saved for the right time in retirement. 😀 I subscribed after watching a few of your vids. Great job!

@@dirkpalmer1067 Thank you Sir, and THANK YOU for your Service. My Dad was a vet and my best friends are all vets. America couldn't be America without you. Let me know if you get out to Austin, Texas and if you have interest in riding along for hot laps in my 911 at Circuit of The Americas. My guest.

Any 911 is a great car! I’m curious, in what way(s) do you see the 992 as so objectionable over the 991.2? Thanks.

@GTSCarLife the 991.2 is the perfect blend of tech and analog for me with plenty of power that can easily be tuned up >500hp if so desired. There are other reasons too, including size, looks imo, view of hood near dash, razor, lower grade materials imo, etc.

Man, I wish I had more space in my garage! I know exactly how much fun you are having! Thanks for watching, subscribing and congratulations on your fantastic new 911!

Those two would cover all the bases for sure. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing your thoughts.

A better what? Luxury coupe? Yes. Sports car? Not according to the overwhelming majority of enthusiasts, journalists and the market in general. But the most important thing is that you enjoy your car and it makes you happy. Thanks for watching, subscribing and contributing your thoughts.

It’s a worthy dream car for sure. Thanks for watching,subscribing and sharing your thoughts. May all your dreams come true

Wow, you have literally one of the best models Porsche ever made! Great year, coupe S and manual. She’s a keeper for sure. What color? Where in Germany are you? I have family in Uder, Berlin and Flensburg. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing your thoughts!

@@GTSCarLife l do live in northern Bavaria close to Würzburg. My 997 is black with bicolor leather in beige/black. Bought it with 37000km on its clock, now we are at 92000 something. In the first 10 years nearly nothing went wrong, after visiting the Nürburgring Nordschleife last year it is slightly annoyed (small clutch problem and a cooling leak lately)

@oliverpfister3972 So we are from the same part of the world! Two-tone leather is super rare. Sounds like a beautiful 911. Don’t worry about the service it needs now. Preventative maintenance is expected on all cars and your 997 is no different. Get the major service completed and you’ll be good for another 90,000. The track doesn’t harm them at all, just makes you go through tires and brakes more frequently. I’m at Circuit of The Americas right now and I’m on track here 10 times a year. I have 72,000 miles now and she runs like new. Cheers!

@@GTSCarLife Have fun on the track! The 2 problems he has had are solved and just cost me 600€. The next service is scheduled to be in September. The Nordschleife is a different beast: one lap is 20.8km long, you got different tarmac and it goes up and down a lot not just left and right. For my laps in 2024 l am going with a track ready rental l think..

@oliverpfister3972 It’s a beast for sure. No harm avoiding risk to your car by taking a rental. It’s on my bucket list for sure. Cheers!

Not quite. But several million and it’s incredible. I was fortunate to be able to go for a ride in it later that day for a few laps at speed on Circuit of The Americas. The sound was like nothing else.

First, thanks for watching, subscribing and chiming in. As for your question, do you not want to drive a stick? I will say that the manual is much more engaging for pleasure driving. But for traffic or track use, the PDK is superior. Tiptronic is very reliable but would only be an advantage in stop and go traffic. Having said that, if you are going to buy an automatic anyway, at least you’ll also be able to enjoy driving a 911 instead of something less fun. Let me know what you decide!

@@GTSCarLife thank you for your answer. Unfortunately the one I liked it’s automatic and not manual. I don’t track just for weekend. But it’s not pdk that’s why I’m concerned

@@bilalsabra8127 Tiptronic is slower but very reliable.

Looks so impressive in real life Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing your thoughts. Go chase your dreams!

Thanks for watching. As I started the video with, any 911 is a great car and if there was only one, we would all love it. But the 997 really is the high mark in the history of Porsche’s famous, now 60 year old sports car. And yes, the market agrees which is even more meaningful than my opinion. I now have over 71,000 miles on my 997.2 GTS so obviously I am not driving to preserve my cars value. But I do believe the 997 and especially the 997.2 which is mechanically superior and also was built in significantly lower numbers, will only increase in value from this point. Thanks for subscribing and sharing your thoughts!

Agree, too harsh toward the 991.1.

I’ll take any 911 over the “competitors “. Thanks for watching, subscribing and chiming in with your thoughts!

I ordered a 2015 Macan S loaded with a $75,000 sticker back in March 2014. It was indeed incredible and even embarrassed some respected high end sports cars on track. But I missed the sounds of an engine behind me and I never got past the feeling that the cars abilities were all from electronics wizardry. But yes, very impressive what Porsche can do! Thank you for watching, subscribing and sharing your experience. Sounds like you are living right!

Thank you for watching, subscribing and sharing your thoughts. My previous 911 was a 2003 996.2 C2 manual. I loved that car and drove over 95,000 miles. For daily driving the 996 was even more fun because the M96 motor just sounds so good and the chassis feels lighter. Aside from some style and materials upgrades, your 996 is really all we need and definitely a keeper. I will say on track, my GTS is worlds better. And as an instructor , I track often. But if you don’t, the 996 is perfect!

Truth. Believe your eyes. And your favorite TH-cam automotive channel. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing your opinion.

You will love any of them. A “base” 2003 996.2 Carrera manual coupe is still an absolute blast to drive on the street! Let us know which one you get! Thanks for watching, subscribing and chiming in.

I love the 996 and my 2003 996.2 manual coupe was still the most fun to drive daily! Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing your thoughts!

If you’re an audiophile then yes, the Burmeister is outstanding. Me, I prefer to listen to the flat 6 revving so Bose is good enough for me. Thank you for watching, subscribing and sharing your thoughts!!!

Thank you for your support and kind words and congratulations on owning and being able to experience one of the truly great cars of all time. She’s a keeper! We’ll have lots more content on the way.

Yes, it is live right now. Ends Friday afternoon. Hate to let her go but we just added another daily and need the garage space. I hope she goes to a great home. I thought maybe someone watching this video would want to buy her.

​@@GTSCarLife I just bought one about a month ago. Always liked yours...If I would have known…. The video you did a couple of years ago. Love the sport seats and interior color (same as mine). Good luck with the sale! Best, Dale

@dedwardmalick Thank you Dale. Congratulations on your new 944. They’re very special cars and just never go out of style. She was daily driven for 3 years and 20,000 miles and was fun and reliable. I’m sure you will enjoy the experience! Thanks for watching, subscribing and commenting.

First of all, congratulations on being disciplined and working towards your goal. Few feelings in the world better than setting goals and working hard to achieve them. As for the scarcity of 997.2, yes. Porsche made very few in the first place because the timing coincided with the great global recession. So few made to start and the ones that are for sale often times have been modded or wrecked or both. All very bad for desirability and value. But the sellers know how strong the demand is for them, so they will still ask top dollar. As for interior color, black is so boring but the most desirable choice simply because it wears well and hides blemishes. And yes, PDK was the shiny new toy so more than half of buyers chose it. I have always owned manuals and would never buy an “automatic“ sports car. But when my wife finally allowed me to replace my 2003 996.2 manual with a 997.2 GTS, which I wanted from the moment it was first introduced, I too struggled with finding my perfect example. So I settled for PDK and got most of the other features that mattered to me. I just bought my son a 2011 987.2 S with the 6-speed manual, and driving it has served to remind me how much more fun and involving a manual truly is. But I do spend a lot of time on track and PDK is definitely better on track, so I just enjoy my car and focus on how much I love it. You will find your car. Use AutoTempest, PCA classifieds and use the Porsche pre-owned website DAILY. Best of luck in your search and please let me know when you achieve your goal! I promise you the reality is as good as the dream. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing your dream.

It was very quick and rated the best handling car in America by Car and Driver when it was new. Today it is still very well built and gives so much pleasure with its quality and beautiful styling. But yes, a Tesla Model 3 will blow it away from a stoplight.

@@GTSCarLifewhy we LS swap em

@@GTSCarLife hey man I love the car it looks great, but It’ll never compare to my 1989 911 turbo I’ve owned my 930 since 09’ been in love ever since ❤️

I’ve seen some nicely done examples. But I’m too much of a purist for that! Can’t imagine a Chevy engine (even the admittedly amazing LS) in a Porsche! 🙈

It also costs a fraction of your 930, and has the same seats! 😂 We just picked up our 7th Porsche 2 weeks ago. It’s fun being able to experience the different versions of these world class sports cars!

Further and further away from the car that got them the reputation. I do believe the 992 Turbo S is a great grand tourer, which is what the 911 has become. But sports car? No. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing your thoughts.

But really, are you biased, or just well informed? Thanks for watching, subscribing and chiming in!

Thanks for watching. You are entitled to have your opinion. But if you actually think this through, it would make no sense for me to just be biased and what, make an entire channel and do various road tests to what, further a bias? No. I just bought my 7th Porsche last week. I can own whichever cars I determine to be best. I am fortunate that I have the opportunity to drive and ride in some of the finest sports and GT cars in the world, usually on a Formula 1 track, and so from my extensive experience I have drawn certain conclusions. As I stated at the very beginning of this review, the point of this comparison was to compare and find out which 911 delivers the better sports car experience. Sports car. Not track monster. The 911 that delivers the better sports car experience. Because really, that is what the 911 has represented for 60 years now. The epitome of a sports car. Sure, some, including mine, also get tracked and some even race, but foremost a Porsche 911 is designed to provide owners with a traditional sports car experience, rear engine placement and all. And by that measure, the 997 generation is in fact the best 911. And the market agrees. Thanks for subscribing and sharing your view!

I think there is a bias created just by owning and just really liking your 997, and there is nothing wrong with that, but nevertheless a bias develops. I disagree that the 997 is a better sports car experience, maybe a more raw experience, that's for sure, the further you go back the more raw it becomes. The reason why I see a bias is because alot of the comments you made about the 991 vs 997 are opinions but you discuss them as if they are a matter of fact

@shaunonig1979 Sports car feel is subjective. Quoting 0-60 and skid pad numbers does not factor into which model is more true to the original sports car intent. Believe me, if I saw the 991 or 992 as the better sports car, I would have ordered one. I find it interesting that you have the Turbo, the GT cruiser version of the 997 and the GT3, the track weapon of the 991. Cheers.

I agree with you. But the 997 series is just classic. The new models are appealing to an entirely different buyer. IMHO

@davidmaynard3215 Indeed the newer cars have lost favor with sports car buyers and appeal to people who are more focused on buying a lifestyle and being able to tell people they “own a Porsch”. Different cars for a larger and more profitable market.

On performance and quality alone! Add in reliability and how well a 911 holds its value, and the 992 Turbo S makes a compelling argument that’s hard to ignore. Thank you for watching, subscribing and chiming in with your thoughts!

Now and then some viewer (who obviously owns a 991) will accuse me of being “biased” because I own a 997.2. They don’t bother to consider that it’s actually the reverse. I can own any 911 I want. And I’ve driven most of them. I choose to own and keep a 997.2 GTS because in my experience, it is the best 911 for my needs, which is a sports car that feels and drives like a sports car, serves as my daily driver and is also competitive on track. The 991 is not as good when those criteria are considered. And the market clearly agrees. Thank you for watching, subscribing and sharing your comments and congratulations on your awesome 911!

So why did you watch this video? Honestly, the 996 is a great 911 to drive. It outperformed the previous generation (993) in every measurable way and is closer to the air cooled originals than any of the models that followed it. Yes, it did have a lower quality interior which was remedied by the 997 of 2005, but if you haven’t owned one you really should spend a weekend driving one. They are fantastic sports cars. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing your views.

@@GTSCarLife To answer your question...I was wondering how anyone could seriously consider the 996 being the best 911. Excluding the 996 Turbo and the GT / RS models. They are of very good quality and also have reliable engines. (Engine block from 993..!) The normal Carrera, on the other hand, is purely a budget car and the poor quality is not just limited to the interior. I currently drive, among other things, a 993, 3.8 liter with 300 hp and a 996 Carrera has never left me behind on the highway. I've never seen a normal 996 Carrera on the racetrack. Porsche officially advises against driving these cars on the race track. The reason for this is the (cheap) engine design without dry sump lubrication. The "open deck" design of the normal Carrera engines and the choice of materials for the cylinder coating are purely cost-oriented and the engines cannot be compared in any way with the real ones (Metzger engines). As a driver with a racing license, I regularly drive on the racetracks in Hockenheim and Dijon. Nobody in my area drives a 996 Carrera. The 996 Carrera is a car for posers and not for drivers.

Have you owned a 911 before? The 4wd certainly adds some athletic ability but the 911 was always rear wheel drive and if this will be your first, I’d encourage you to go with rear drive. The experience is special. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing your thoughts!

Thank you for watching the Supra review! There are many print and TH-cam automotive reviewers, some, like Chris Harris feature hard core track tests, and others delve into stats and mechanical features. I wanted this channel to reflect what it actually feels like to drive, typically as daily drivers, some of the most exciting cars most people will ever own. I want to share what is actually feels like to live with these cars, on a daily basis. Spending as much time as I do at the track, I see a lot of GR86 models. In fact, I was fortunate enough to ride in a Toyota GR Yaris a year ago, on track at Circuit of The Americas in Austin. The owner had driven the car through the night, from Mexico, to attend a track day I was instructing at. let me tell you, that things was ridiculous! The sheer performance and handling abilities of that car far exceeded anything its looks promised! Anyway, the GR86 is a car I really like. It reminds me of the 944 and Miata, a simple and well balanced sports car that allows drivers to really develop their talents, with a lower risk of getting in over heir heads. If a GR86 appeals to you, I would say go for it! I'm sure you will enjoy, and grow with the car. Thanks for watching and for your question!

@@GTSCarLife You're right the Yaris is a very capable car and a Porsche badge on an 86 would not look out of place, very nice looking car. Might have to get one. Thanks for replying.

@mdrsalgado Agree. Reminds me of a modern day 944. Thanks for your reply, and please let me know if you get one!

@@GTSCarLife I'll let you know.

I appreciate your observations a lot. I wanted to do this video 3 years before it launched, and actually worked on it over a period of 2 years. I knew it was a question so many Porsche 911 enthusiasts, and future 911 buyers were curious about, and nobody else had done a comparison like it at the time. While any 911 is an awesome car, there are significant differences between the air cooled models, the 996 and 997 models, and the larger 991 and 992 gens. They are in fact very different machines that appeal to different people for very different reasons. This video set out to determine which of these 2 very popular recent generations was better at filling the traditional role of a sports car. I was very happy with the result and it is clear 9 months after launch that an overwhelming number of 911 enthusiasts feel the same way. Thank you for watching, subscribing and sharing your feedback!

That is awesome! I bought this 1985.5 944 for my son for his 15th Birthday, and he also drove it daily and to school for 3 years. It is a super reliable car and indeed very special. The 1985.5 was actually the new 1986 model, with the greatly improved interior, windshield embedded antenna and various mechanical upgrades, but Porsche did not have the newly mandatory for 1986 3rd brake light (CHMSL) ready, so early 1986 models were sold as "1985.5", making your car a very rare example of an already special car. Thank you for watching, subscribing and sharing your story! And welcome to Porsche ownership, you have cool parents!

Downside to parking in the back is thieves

Yes. But most thieves can’t drive a manual, so there’s that. Thanks for watching, subscribing and contributing your thoughts!

@@GTSCarLife LOL that's hilarious actually

@@GTSCarLife Gotta get one of those old Viper alarms that shock you. Or was that just a rumor?

We are on the same page. We had a 2016 Cayenne S from mid 2015 until we replaced it with a 2023 Taycan 4S Cross Turismo in January 2023. Those cars are outstanding cross country companions. My 997.2 however is the car I intend to own forever. Yes, I’m in DFW and can also frequently be found at COTA. Weather permitting I’m planning on stopping by Mavs at Mayo this Saturday. If you see me at an event please say hi. Thanks for your support!