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It'll be interesting to see what companies can do with this moving forward!

I put about 3 grams on each side from the bottom corner up through about half way up the side and felt that worked pretty well

Appreciate it! Yah it's pretty crazy....definitely a fun paddle to play with!

Well for one this is an approved paddle that you can buy haha! But in all seriousness I have played two versions of the ripple and I don't remember which ones. Ripple beats it in pop and power but the pop is much harder to control, gets you in trouble or at least it did me. Also ripple is lighter. But in the end it doesn't really matter because the ripple, to this point, is basically just a concept in it's current form and needs to be dialed back if it's ever going to be actually released

The only major thing will be the change to a standard from elongated but it's worth a try. I normally prefer hybrids but found I preferred the tf2 in this scenario too

I’m just frustrated how far behind the times CRBN is thinking that 5.25 is enough handle length in 2025. I’d love to try a CRBN 2, but not with that stubby little handle.

@@douglasmurdoch7247 It's definitely personal preference though, personally I hate an extended handle as it's wasted on me and I feel more comfortable with my two handed backhand with a bit of my hand on the paddle face. I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority there but still

@@douglasmurdoch7247 I use elongated but was afraid of heavy swing weight so I got the 2. It has plenty of space, I measured and because of the tapered handle, there is 6 inches of usable handle, I don’t even think about it. Put 7 inches of .5 tungsten from the throat up the side, this paddle is insane. Spin is off the charts and will stay that way because of the dwell in the core. Power and Pop is there with the weight and very easy to control. You won’t regret it.

@ 6 inches on a 5.25 inch handle? How? Even the Paddletek Bantam TKO-CX, which is 5.75 inches over grips up to 6 inches.

So I haven't hit that paddle but just looked it up. The closest is probably the trufoam 1. The trufoam 3 will be a similar shape but shorter handle. Trufoam 2 will be a totally different shape. If you're looking to explore I think the 2 was my favorite. If you're not looking to explore I'd probably recommend the 1 to stay more consistent. I just didn't like the 1 because I hold my paddles really high and don't utilize the 5.5 inch handle (this is the same size handle as the ballr)

Thank you so much for the info and quick reply… 👍🏼

Ordered the 1… with your code. Thanks again 🙏🏼👍🏼

Heck yah appreciate you using the code, let me know what you think when you get it!

I did! My 1 and 2 were in line with specs, my 3 was like 8.4 oz so a bit over. I am fairly certain that CRBN was planning to pivot a little on the public batches based on reviewers input that they were a bit too heavy / higher swing weight so they said they were gonna try to shave off a little so I'm kinda taking them at their word there

@@ThePickleballBlast yeah I think in future batches they will fix the issue. for now I just went with the TFG1 and added some weight where needed

Yah always better to start lower and be able to go up (within reason I guess). I just don't utilize longer handles based on my hand placement even for two handed shots so the 1 was just kinda wasted on me but I know a lot of people who love it!

@@ThePickleballBlast I also dont use 2 handed back hands but I do have larger hands. I would have preferred the TFG3 but the lightest one at my local store was 8.4oz up to 8.7oz

Nice they had some for you to weight and choose from haha I feel like we might see slightly lighter ones out in the wild but I hear ya. tfg1 is still super solid and maybe a two handed backhand is in your future!

I've played both but much more time with the crbn. I think the saga would share some similarities with the prism. Both of these paddles are pretty different from the prism though. Both excellent paddles but I recall the saga having a bit more of a plush dense feel. I also think there is less pop on the saga compared to the crbn. So if you're looking for the same just a little different / more power I'd go saga. If you want a change and try another excellent but different paddle than what you're coming from go with the 3x. OR the trufoam releases today in like an hour. My video will go live right around then and this new crbn paddle might be the perfect fit. The feel is a bit more dense and plush than the x series but still retains power, crazy good control and spin, and features the first 100% foam core which is a unique feel to the paddle

@@ThePickleballBlast Thank you! I think I'll pick up the saga (using our code ofc) and will wait a few months to see how the Trufoam's perform in the masses. Plus, it gives me some time to save up for the Truform.

Heck yah! Code should be the same on vatic don't remember what the discount is though. I think you'll be happy especially if you wanna wait and see with the trufoam!

Yesssss were you able to try one out anywhere before ordering?

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Whoa that's awesome! Hope you've been enjoying it!

Thanks for the thoughts. Filmed two of these the first time and definitely want to change some things up for the next time. Just trying to think of how to do it that isn't crazy time consuming and where not every single shot is just super wide!

I feel like I know the answer but I can't remember 100% so don't want to speak too soon and I have only seen the one core thickness thus far

It really is such a solid bag!

I thought I had the whole honolulu lineup being sent but I haven't heard from them in a bit, so unfortunately not yet

yes! USAP approved!

Ok this might get long for a comment haha, also know that I ultimately love both, I have codes for a discount for both, relationships with both companies, all that to say I'm not telling you one because I get a kick back or something. Also, the vapor isn't a paddle it's a shape for all the new lineups of 11six24. The vapor is the hybrid shape and I specifically was playing the vapor power paddle. It will all come down to your play style, what paddle you're coming from, etc. If I were to go to a tournament today I would probably still choose the shogun as I'm more familiar with it. With that said, the 11six24 vapor power is a great paddle, checks the boxes in all categories, and I could see it becoming my main paddle in 2025 or in the rotation at least. I don't think you would be unhappy with either decision, I think they are around the same price, I think my discount gets you more money off with the shogun but still around the same price. Also, the vapor power isn't out yet, still a few weeks away so that might need to be taken into consideration as well! Hope it helps!

@@ThePickleballBlast thank you. So, if I was to choose the Shogun for now and look into 11six24 in 6 months you don't think I would really be missing out on much by going with Shogun?

You'll be missing out on a bit of power and pop, and you'll be gaining a bit better control, the touch / feel of that "titanium" weave which I am a huge fan of, and with the vapor specifically you'd be getting a bit more surface area and reach with the shogun, a bit lighter paddle with the vapor. These are two really excellent paddles in the end. I don't think you'd be disappointed with either of them

You in MN too?!

@ yessirrr, I was at All World yesterday lol

I haven't played with the mach 2 forza so probably can't help out much here, but I know people love the mach 2, usually a top paddle in conversations in that category. I would imagine the new shapeshifter would at least be in that conversation as well.

I don’t know the makeup of these paddles so can’t say for sure. With that said I think it’s likely there’s a little break in period. No major change and not a long time to get there but just a little. I don’t know how played the paddles were when I recorded this

The sweet spot pro to me is kinda that standard safe paddle that most companies have. It's not bad by any means but I think the banger is much more unique and excels in a lot of areas while still maintaining a solid sweet spot

I think the apes feels more dense to me, probably a little softer feeling as well if memory serves me well. My apes never really broke in much so I don't know how accurately I can compare. 11six24 feels like more pop to me (again from memory), I pulled up my serve speeds, the hurache was just about even with the pulse e for me, but the vapor and pegasus both beat out the apes equivalent. Also for what it's worth, those were the averages. I had a higher top speed serve with the 11six24 across the board.

Thanks, I’m looking forward to getting the Vapor power next month.

Sorry you had a hard time following

They are both awesome though different. Still an embargo on the trufoams so can't say much more than that!

@@ThePickleballBlast ah okay fair. Can't wait to find out the difference between the two

I have the True Foam 3, and it definitely vibrates on anything that isn't right on the sweet spot. They made a point in this video to say the 11Six24 paddles had no vibration.

@@luke9822 I just put out a video on the trufoam. I think the 11six24 had a bigger sweet spot but I don't feel the trufoams vibrating at all. The trufoam has a partial fiberglass layer in the center so if you miss that it feels different but doesn't feel bad imo

@@ThePickleballBlast it just feels weird if you don't hit the center of that fiberglass sweet spot. You can feel the vibration in the handle. This was brought up in the CRBN discord and several others agreed and said they had that experience as well. Maybe it's just something you have to get used to.

Really appreciate the comment and glad you're enjoying this setup! More to come with some adjustments to make them even better!

Heck yah!

I appreciate the feedback! The first few minutes was literally just hitting the paddle, but beyond that I feel like we tried to setup certain shots or scenarios. Maybe we need to play a game of skinny singles or something though at some point to really lock in. With that said it's also nice being able to hit them side by side but in that moment we aren't going for perfect form or great shots necessarily, more testing how they feel compared to one another, as it's pretty tough to switch paddles in hand between hits and still do so with good form.

Oh also "extra elongated" may not be a real thing but I'm referring to the paddles that use every bit of usable length, making the paddle 17 inches long as opposed to the more standard 16.5 inches. The pulse E is a good example of this, and I think in this video I was wondering if the magnus was also that.

Maybe Matt will chime in I think he has more time on the Olympus, I've only hit it very briefly. I remember the olympus feeling more stiff than these, maybe a little less pop but. I could be wrong there. Both great paddles though

The vapor is a great paddle and I did enjoy the shape, I actually thought the vapor might hit a little harder from memory but I didn't hit them side by side, it was different days. With that said, I felt like the hurache didn't have some of the downsides of elongated shapes (still felt stable with a great sweet spot) so I'll be going hurache at least for now. Really can't go wrong though I'd probably tell anyone with this series to just go with their preferred shape, they all are great!

Yah we got another comment like that, this was the first time we've done this, we'll try to be better about calling them out moving forward

Eh, we weren't hitting for a game scenario and these are the first time we're hitting these so it all comes with the understanding that if we were to use these as a main paddle there would be an adjustment period like there would be with any paddle. That said we can tell the type of power, control, shape, spin, etc that the paddle offers whether or not we are perfectly executing it. And I know I mentioned some of my dinks being too high with the 11six24 and knowing I'd need to adjust there with some drilling to bring those in a bit.

Thanks for the feedback!

Hear ya on this! We didn't know exactly how this would shake out and the cameras were unmanned. I already know a few things I'd change and a few spots I'd be sure to pause and adjust for the next time we film!

Curious what Bobby thinks but I’ll say, less power, less pop, DBD has a **bit** (denser???) stiffer feel but balance is similar IMO to Vapor.

I think the DBD has less power and pop, probably less spin too. It's been a while since I've hit my DBD but probably a little stiffer but the DBD is probably lighter and feels faster in the hands

Dude they're so good, can't come soon enough!

Let’s gooo! These are going to be special. POY??

I think we're gonna start seeing this everywhere, I know this will likely be a new main for me at least for some time haha

It’s definitely my favorite out of the lineup!

Thanks for watching! I'd have to check exact numbers but I would say a little more power than the pulse, more pop and more spin. The pulse (especially the v) was super stable so it might win there but I don't know the twist weights off the top of my head. Both are great paddles honestly

@@ThePickleballBlast which one of the new one is similar to Monarch all court and jellybean? is it exactly the same paddle or anything changed beside the name? I mean same tech on old and new paddle

Not sure I understand the question, I believe they are moving to three new shapes of their paddles (hurache, vapor, and pegasus) and then the power series, all court series, and control. I think control is the jellybean. Tech wise I believe these are gen 1.5 but I have spent very little time with other 11six24 paddles, though I believe they were gen 2 thermoformed. Don't quote me on any of this I don't have any of these paddles in hand yet, should be coming soon along with the extra details they usually tell reviewers, but these were matt's paddles we hit with!

Hmmm I don't know the difference between the old all court and the new ones, I'm sure there is some difference but it's usually fairly minor improvements (I could be wrong there). I don't really think it being discontinued is a big deal though to be honest. If it's still under warranty and has issues I'm sure they'll take care of you. And if you play until it's dead and time for a new paddle it's always good to shop around and try some new stuff anyways. Plenty of companies sunset an older model and improve on it, so unless you're doing heavy tournament play like pro level where you want to show up with 10 copies of the same paddle I don't think it'll be a huge problem

The new all courts have a new construction. They are Gen 1.5. I can share more details if interested.

I play the “MAC” and just purchased another one. When the Pegasus is available I will purchase it for the extra power, pop and spin. I will be very comfortable with the shape of the Pegasus due to my “MAC” experience. I can’t wait!!!

I'm trying to get in touch with them, would love to try them out they look sweet

Appreciate it! Should have the 11six24 lineup en route to me but didn't have them yet so couldn't speak to them too much. And yah already thought of a few more categories for next year. Won't lie, this was a very last minute video haha. Saw every other creator in the space making one and figured I had to!

I got you. It’s all good. Looking forward to more of your content and paddle reviews for 2025, man!

Got lots of good stuff in the works!

Didn't get to play with the jellybean yet so couldn't include it there, same with paddletek for the most part, they've been hard for me to get a hold of. I think they'll both be in the mix in 2025 though!. Never heard of the twill

@ThePickleballBlast good info, thank you. Thompson is made in Michigan, so that is good alone to see made in USA. Good specs too