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That's what I never understand. Modding greatly improves the size of the community

Who's the real NK mafia now? Hehehe...

Yeah this was always a fad :/ To be fair, there's still a reason to play it here if you want to save yourself the trouble of creating alt accounts for high wr but still...

It just looks weird because it are familiar characters in an unfamiliar concept. Give it a try, its really awesome!

Since I know no one will bother reading a text wall I chunked it down #1. none of my skills translate from btd6 or battles 2 (like with battles 2 my btd6 skills translated and it was cool to test my knowledge against other fellow btd6 players on launch) #2. the starting cards are so azz so when I try to defend I had like 1 dart monkey to defend growth bloons (solution is skill based match making) #3. games take forever, so losing one feels annoying because early game feels so slow, unlike btd6 where you have to worry about camos leads and farming or battles 2 with efficient eco and rushes and defends. #4. this game feels too pay to win and every game a queue its some random guys whos been grinding for max cards or some guy who spent money. #5. tutorial sucks so badly with Quincy being so easy then gwendolin kicking my azz with a moab when I have no cards left. #6. for me never playing a card game, creating a deck was hell and I never won a single game with it, meanwhile I win like every game in battles 2 because my skill actually translated. #7. ik its normal for there it be rng in card games but its still annoying asf when I knew how to defend something but I have trash cards. #8. personal opinion - I feel this game will die hard when content creators stop playing it just like bloons pop, so why waste 100's of hours grinding cards for F2P and gaining skill when this game is about to turn to another minecraft legends situation. Over all these are all my opinions and you can chalk it all up to me having a skill issue but when I spend 100's of hours mastering a game, then the game under the same brand I have 0 skill in, is just frustrating. Along with going against people who are better then me when I also have worse decks is just unplayable. Overall I see myself quitting bloons card storm unless ranked match making is introduced and maybe give new players some good cards. Also I have no problem with grinding, as a geometry dash player I recently spent 14 days, 8 hours a day to beat a singular level, BUT the process was fun and grinding in bloons card storm sucks when faced with opponents who are better and have better cards than me. A few points I would respond to: For #1 and #3, in my opinion I thought some players find the pace of Battles 2 too fast for their liking, and I would imagine those players would like this more because of its more relaxed pace. I still think it is a tad slow with the first several rounds in particular. For #5, I do think the tutorial should cover more advanced topics in the future, like deckouts make you automatically lose, maybe some effect showcases, etc. For #7, I had an idea in mind to make the RNG more balanced. Every card would be weighted based on their cost, and the cheaper it is, the more weight it has thus the more likely it is picked (more like a reverse weighting system, was thinking something like 25 - cost per card). Since in the early game your gold increases at a slower rate, you would be more likely to receive the cards that you can actually afford and not have to risk wasting a turn. Conversely, if you're in the late game, you don't have to deal with capping your gold as easily because then once all the cheaper cards will be used up then it'll be mainly the more expensive ones. For #8, holy crap is this game facing a mass exodus already. Molt made a separate channel for BCS two weeks ago and it is only at 100 subs. ;.( I had this video made days in advance and it has gone downhill so quick it's insane, just look at any other big BloonsTuber and you'll find that those vids don't get that many views anymore. Even Fry Em Up, who really thrusted this game in the spotlight initially, has stopped playing.

1: I mean yeah, its a completely different genre 2: the starting cards are honestly fine. You can build a solid deck out of starting cards and cheap cards that takes maybe a couple hours to grind up (you can just play passively and get achievements which drown you in currencies and MM) 3: Play an aggro deck, every game is over by turn 8. This is what I do and I can churn out games super quickly and keep it fast paced 4: I'm f2p and got the game exactly 1 week ago. I'd wager I beat about 70% of opponents with a relatively cheap aggro deck. I think decks do matter, but a more expensive deck is not leages above a f2p accessible deck. Especially since some of the most expensive cards are super late game like temple, biggest one, dark champion, etc you wont even encounter these when using an aggro deck 5: Idk I never struggled I just rushed her immediately 6: BCS was my first ever card game and using online guides was definitely helpful. There's a lot of youtube content which can guide you through building a cohesive deck. 7: Something very important is to have 2-3 copies of cards, even if you only intend on using it once. this is even more important for aggro decks which might only go through the first 15~ cards in the deck. I bring 3 pinks even though I only need 1-2, because if I only have 2 pinks then the chance of getting both is super low. Stack the odds in your favor, and you'll be winning more games because of luck than losing because of luck. 8: I enjoy BCS now while it isn't dead, so that when it does die I will have experienced the best days of the game. The grind really doesn't take 100s of hours, I got my deck most of the way online after 10. I'm at 20 hours right now and am only making slight adjustments here and there, and also building up my secondary and tertiary decks since my main is finished.

ngl the grind was not that bad for me. Im f2p and managed to get a solid deck that's like 95% of what I enjoy playing within a week of getting the game. Sure I don't have a fully fleshed out tempo and control deck, but my aggro deck is basically where I want it. Dailies give a lot of monkey money which can be used to purchase currency and random cards (the rng is annoying ofc but each deck has a lot of potential cards that are good in it). Getting Amelia and Obyn took me like, a couple days considering the game also has codes.

@@aqz7603 yeah, maybe it's just me preferring a slower game and not you know, blast swarms of bloons and call it quits. preferred the back and forth in the slower decks. kinda waiting for engi monkey for the bloon trap/cleansing foam stuff. *turn 5 bloon swarm with embiggen/bolstered bloon is kinda bruh. but hey, it's not like there's no answer every game. then again half the cards in this game right now is filler or just not it. like hey, have the biggest and rarest monkeys in the game affected by shrink/nego.

@@fetchtheartist I do think late game players have a bigger grind and also that stronger towers shouldn't be affected by shrink, return to sender, negotiator, etc or maybe it should cost more gold depending on the monkey cause rn things like sun temple are strictly unviable.

It was bad because the progression was awful. The overhype definitely played a factor but the game was in an awful state at launch.

They already nerfed it hard now it's not nearly as good you should've seen the update

just run bedtime in your decks and you win those games easily

​@@TheBlueKing-w8g Eh, I won't install the game again to test it, but I don't believe it restoring less hp per gold changes much. It still works the same on the fundamental level

You are right they just make it more expensive 7 gold instead of 5 gold but it still heals 10 hp for each gold you earn ​@@RancorSnp

@@RancorSnp that wasn't the change was that they increased its gold cost by 40 % and decreased it's damage by 50% but they kept the healing the same

Yikes!

I don't expect the adventure to be unlocked with Amelia (since you'd get some MM back and it would become a really good deal to buy her first) But just locking 90+% of the PvE content behind a paywall? That's ridiculous

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Gah... back when I was using the mic from my backup $10 headphones xD

BTD5 is too, I included both a Flash and Mobile part for each.

@@jessiepatch ah mb

I need to look into the new data.jet file to see how many bugs actually got fixed. I am actually quite surprised by how much got fixed, and in fact, I need to make new boss strategy guides as a result of this.

Afaik it is

is it fixed?

Well not really, apopalypse exists.

@@jessiepatch Apopalypse has been also patched (undocumented) to use certain bloon groups from normal gameplay. Rounds 101~109: Random (Purples, Camo Purples, Fortified Leads, Camo Fortified Leads, Ceramics, Fortified Ceramics, MOABs, Fortified MOABs, BFBs, Fortified BFBs, ZOMGs, Fortified ZOMGs, DDTs, Fortified DDTs) Rounds 110~118: Random (Purples, Camo Purples, Fortified Leads, Camo Fortified Leads, Camo Ceramics, Camo Fortified Ceramics, MOABs, Fortified MOABs, BFBs, Fortified BFBs, ZOMGs, Fortified ZOMGs, DDTs, Fortified DDTs, BADs) Round 119: 3 BADs are guaranteed to spawn with random spacing Rounds 120~129: Random (MOABs, Fortified MOABs, BFBs, Fortified BFBs, ZOMGs, Fortified ZOMGs, DDTs, Fortified DDTs, BADs) Rounds 130~139: Random (MOABs, Fortified MOABs, BFBs, Fortified BFBs, ZOMGs, Fortified ZOMGs, DDTs, Fortified DDTs, BADs) Round 140: 4 BADs are guaranteed to spawn with random spacing 44.0 Undocumented: Groups of Purple Bloons during Rounds 101~118 has been changed (555 Camo Purples -> 100 Camo Purples, 1110 Purples -> 200 Purples) * As a result, the total number of Purple Bloons during entire game got similar between Normal Gameplay, Apopalypse, and Alternate Bloons Rounds. Regular: 2,874 Purples (1,613 normal, 1,261 camo), ABR: 1,907 Purples (551 normal, 1,356 camo), Apopalypse: 2,000~3,000 Purples or something (...)

Normal Round 140: Fortified BAD, BAD Apopalypse Round 140: 4 BADs (random spacing) ABR Round 140: BAD, 4 Fortified BADs

@@jessiepatch Purple Bloons in early stage of freeplay got huge nerf and by this point, they just work as decorations during the beginning stage of freeplay. Meanwhile, DDTs in early stage of freeplay got huge buff and some rounds now only spawn a lot of DDTs and Fortified DDTs like harder variation of Rounds 63, 76, 78, or 95. Round 118: Round 98, but Fortified BFBs are Fortified DDTs Round 126: Round 76, but Ceramics are DDTs Round 138: Round 95, but Fortified MOABs are Fortified DDTs

@@rakenzarnsworld2 Can confirm that none of the undocumented stuff is true. I have removed it from the wiki page now

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I'm not sure yet, NK still hasn't made an announcement on the NK or BCS subreddits as of this comment. Having the alpha be playable to the public feels weird to me lol

Yup, fully agree on this.