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@@Blue-moon12 yeah I thought about it! And thanks 🙏

@@whitesparrow4907 so glad i was able to be helpful! Hit me up if you ever have any questions I’d be happy to help

@@erwinfelix2239 thanks for asking, so it depends on the offset of your wheels, if you are keeping the stock wheels I believe they have a +35mm offset (might want to double check that to be sure) and the wheels I bought have a 0mm offset, meaning they stick out further away from the center of the vehicle than the stock wheels. That creates different geometry that results in more rubbing. I believe you would have slight rubbing with stock wheels, I had considerable rubbing and had to cut my pinch welds and heat up and move plastic liners to avoid rubbing with my 285s. It’s also good to keep in mind that different brand tires may say they are the same size but may be slightly smaller or bigger than other brands that claim the same size. Usually you can find exact measurements fairly easily. Also about the coil bucket contact, the best way to avoid it is getting upper control arms. I got the All Dogs Off-road upper control arms, they provide a wider clearance over stock and will allow your suspension to travel to full droop without having coil bucket contact. I love my 285s I’d say go for it, and don’t be afraid to do a little cutting / grinding / melting if you need too. Just paint over cut metal pieces to avoid rust. I have footage of what I did to fit mine if you wanna check out part 3! Best of luck and feel free to hit me up if you have any other questions, I’ll answer when I have time. I love to help out the community!

@@erwinfelix2239 that stock offset value is for the 3rd generation frontier, not sure what the second generation offset is

@@chrisunderhill8853 I did some of that towards the end of the video, I definitely needed to cut some of the pinch weld too, but I appreciate that! I have a new lift kit I’ll be installing soon so hang around for that!

@@chrisunderhill8853 I did that in part 3 actually

@@rambling4x4adventures92 a guy on Instagram, his account no longer exists, but there are a lot of creators that make logos like this just search around! Sorry I couldn’t help more 🙏

@@ApexFrontier I just had one made but it wouldn’t let me upload a picture of my truck. Like the way yours turned out. I’ll keep looking! Thanks

I used a cheesy spring compressor off of Amazon at first. As I compressed the stock spring the spring compressor started to bend. I got concerned and decided to stop and get help from a buddy. He had a different style spring compressor but same concept. (Long bolt with hooks on each side , grabs the spring and compresses it as you tighten the bolt). We used 2 spring compressors, one on each side going a bit at a time to make sure one didn’t get ahead of the other one. Eventually you can remove the shock from the spring once it’s compressed enough. Then you compress the new spring enough to fit the shock into it. Be mindful about the alignment of our shock. You have to make sure it will mount back up the same way. It was a difficult ordeal for me and I will likely never buy suspension that isn’t already pre assembled ever again due to that part right there. I would have filmed it but we were literally concerned for our safety the whole time and it was too intense to try and film at that moment. Hope that helps, be really careful. Or honestly take it to a shop for that part. They have a much bigger tool set up that makes it easier and safer.

LMAO! That obvious huh? 😅😂

@@ApexFrontier It's only obvious to those who have it hahahaha!

@@naterosas1466 hahaha! Man we could inherit the world, just gotta stay focused on that first 😂😂😂

Thanks bro! It’s steeper than it looks on video 😅

@@ApexFrontier the videos never do justice haha

@@CanadianCruisin exactly 😂

I got nitto ridge grappler 33s on there… maybe it’s time for 35s 😂 I think I was just lacking momentum, didn’t want to take my bumper off on the first try, was going slow to feel it out. Had it all day when I punched it

Thanks 🙏 Yeah it’s stiffer for sure, not bad or anything but I will say in my honest opinion if you have the money, and of course depending on your goals, I’d go ahead and get a suspension system that’s pre assembled. I like the fox 2.0 extended travels (3” lift) and I’ve been checking out dobinsons IMS lift too. RC killa is good bang for your buck and better than spacers, but you don’t gain any travel since you re use your stock shocks and it’s also difficult to change the springs out if you don’t have the right tools. Quite dangerous in fact. So keep that in mind when considering the RC Killa lift. It has held up well in some difficult off-roading situations as well. Best of luck 🤞

@ApexFrontier I still have not gone offroad but do want a lift more for looks and rarely to do some minor offroad trails etc.. Thanks

@@ruffriding2k2 oh okay well it’s probably a good option for you then! Definitely cost effective! Just be careful with the springs in the front if you plan to do it yourself . The add a leaf isn’t hard , but use C clamps to hold the leafs together when you put the bolt on 🤘

@ApexFrontier thanks for the tips bro!

@@ruffriding2k2 you’re welcome bro! I’m happy to help!

Check out part 3

I don’t know haven’t been to the dealership since I bought it lol 😂 I’d assume it probably affects certain things, but I wouldn’t expect my engine to not be covered anymore and stuff like that

It lifts the front 2 inches and the rear 1.5 inches. I thought I mentioned it in the video but perhaps I didn’t. It’s mentioned in the description of the lift kit too if you go to all dogs off-road website. It doesn’t level it, it keeps a slight camber but it’s slightly more leveled than stock. With this lift plus the larger tires, my truck is overall 3 inches higher off the ground than it was stock. Stock tires are 31s, and I put 33s on, gives you 1 inch in lift

No I didn’t need to grind anything to fit the UCAs. They went right in no problem.

@@ApexFrontier thanks a lot for your reply! I’m sent an email to ADO twice with that question and still haven’t receive a response. I need to order my suspension kit this week for an upcoming trip in April!

Adding spacers would likely make it rub worse. The more negative your wheel offset the more it will rub. The fact that your running stock pro4x wheels should mean you shouldn’t have to trim quite as much as I did. But as far as I know the only way to prevent the rubbing is to either trim more, or lift more. I’d just trim more, you can also heat up the plastic and bend it / mold it. I did some of that towards the end of the video. I hope that helps and good luck! 👍

Just realized you might be talking about lift spacers, in that case it might help actually.

I’m glad someone appreciated that 😅😁

Thanks bro! Satisfying tackling stuff I’ve never done. And I learned so much along the way 🤘

They are rather sexy if I do say so myself

I’m glad I could be helpful!!!

Not really there is still a good amount of room to move your tie points

You can loosen them slightly to slide them, or all the way, and a quick twist removes them from the utilitrac. I occasionally had to move mine around my tri-fold tonneau cover brackets at the front (cab) side of the bed, like his. I just picked up my new Pro 4X (had a 22 SV previously) and decided to keep the cleats and added them to the ones I got with the new Pro, giving me 6 now; two on each utilitrac. Saves me moving them… for the most part. 😂

@@ApexFrontierit might work with a roll up tonneau cover. I’m looking at the same things, which is why I’m here. 😂

@@k1sfd1974 yeah there’s a list of bed covers that supposedly work with this bed rack I have it somewhere deep in my phone 😂

Hey man thanks! 🙏 first off your making a great choice, the frontier is badass! Also it’s a bed rack, which is great for putting over landing and camping gear on it and providing extra storage. I’ve got a video on me installing it, check out the rest of my channel! And reach out if you have any questions I’d be happy to help

@@ApexFrontier just watch it awesome that your able to take advantage and do all your modifications yourself! What do you think of the sports bar?

@@jonathanmariani5627 thanks! Yeah it’s fun, and saves money!!! I hope to help out the frontier community with my content and provide some entertainment! Are you talking about the sports bar that you can buy with the truck? I personally wouldn’t get it because I knew I wanted a bed rack. The bed rack has so much more utility

Yeah I can work on putting something out on that. I don’t have a lot of footage of the truck before the lift and tires but I’ll see what I can put together

It really only rubs on driver side, front tire, back of wheel well while turning left. It gets worse when pressed and also turning left. Going to end up trimming some more because it’s a little irritating but it’s not hurting anything, just a slight rub

Yeah it took some work, 33s aren’t even that big, I figured it wouldn’t have taken that much with a 2 inch lift and considering the stock tires are 31s, but hey it is what it is! Looking back, I could have used a mallet and laid the pinch weld over instead of cutting it and got more clearance. Also the wider offset was a factor too. I think if I kept the stock offset, 33s would have fit a little easier , but that’s no fun 😋

By that logic nearly every Frontier with aftermarket wheels and tires is trash 😅 Stay mad hater 😜

@@ApexFrontier they should have bought a bigger truck and yes when you start cutting it up I see it as junk not mad at it or hate it just can’t see myself doing it

@@kurtgreen1040 fair enough if you can’t see yourself doing it, but everyone’s different, I love my frontier and in order to have badass wheels with a wider stance you have no choice but to do some cutting and grinding. I did it in a way that looks almost stock and doesn’t compromise the integrity of the pinch weld, to me it’s not trash at all, but everyone’s entitled to their opinion! 🤷‍♂️😁

Ehh I like the naturally aspirated V6! It’s under stressed and more reliable! The 2.3 tt does have good power and torque though!

It still has a slight tilt, the rear being slightly higher than the front but it’s closer to level than stock by a half inch.

Got another question? I don’t want to add a leveling kit from rough country or the nismo. I was thinking of just adding the front spring only like you added. Would I need to replace the upper control arm as well? I’m not thinking of changing my wheels or stock tires anytime soon. Just want the front end to look a bit higher than the rear.

@@tonyj9502 so spacers create an extra 2 inches of lift by adding space between the top of your shock and the coil bucket. The RC killa springs create 2 inches by being 2 inches longer in total over the stock springs. But if you think about it, the geometry of your suspension has essentially undergone the same change, and I believe will present the same coil bucket contact issue unless you get aftermarket UCAs that provide clearance at full droop. Now, I believe it depends on what your goals are with your truck. Will you be doing off roading? Or are you mostly driving on the streets and just want a nice leveled look for the truck? I’d say if you’re off roading you may want to consider getting aftermarket UCAs, if not than I wouldn’t worry too much about the coil bucket contact, it will only happen when hitting speed bumps at higher speeds, pot holes, etc. Another thing to consider is the spacers don’t change the force of the springs ability to rebound but the RC killa springs make your suspension rebound with much more force, and when your suspension rebounds and goes to full droop is when you will have coil bucket contact, so I think if your just going for the leveled look and mostly driving on the street , a spacer might be better honestly, because the RC killa spring is gonna launch that wheel to full droop in any conditions where there’s no weight on the front wheels. TLDR: if off roading get Upper control arms If not , just get spacers and stock UCA

Totally agree, it’s the perfect amount of poke! 🤘

Awesome I got those sitting in my garage gonna do an install video on them once I put my 8 gang switch box in

@@ApexFrontier Nice bro. I’m super happy with them. Are the ditch lights the only lights you will be installing?

@@Nazim-u9w no I’ll be eventually doing a roof rack with a light bar, and depending on what armor and bumpers I get I may be installing a light bar in the bumper as well and of course I’ll be making videos on those installs too!

Awesome! This color is the best imho! Cheers!

@@ApexFrontier Yes it is.

With a cheesy spring compressor from auto zone . I didn’t film it because I was so focused on not dying. Definitely don’t recommend doing that. Get pre assembled coil overs or own a legitimate spring compressor. That thing felt like arming and disarming and IED.

@@ApexFrontier lmao.

@@1393floyd yeah it was not fun! 😂

Makes me just want to go with a spacer lift and put up with the coil bucket contact.

@@1393floyd you can get spacers and aftermarket upper control arms to avoid coil bucket contact if you want to go that route. Personally I’d say if you can afford it, go with a suspension lift, and buy pre assembled coil overs. Koni lift kit is nice, fox 2.0 extended travel, dobinsons, all good lifts just gotta fork out more money 💰

Yeah it’s tough cutting up a brand new truck but hey, gotta do what you gotta do to get it done! lol 😂 Interesting ! Do you like that set up when going off road?

@@ApexFrontier Hey! Sorry for the late reply, just found your comment. I do like it, for the most part. I got the kit from ADO with the parabolic leaf springs, and they were very stiff, too stiff. I had about 300lbs of gear, camper in the bed, but the truck drove like a 3/4 ton truck. so after a year of having the parabolic leaf springs on the truck, I finally removed them and just installed a add-a-leaf to the factory leaf pack. It is much better now. Rides smooth and the rear suspension now articulates more and moves through its entire range of travel. As for the front, it's pretty good, I think they are 600lbs springs, so not overly stiff like the rear. And I also reduced the preload on the springs on the coil overs to about 7/10ths of an inch from the bottom of the threads to the top of the spring collar, softened them up a bit. And it rides great now. I think those kits aren't actually made for the frontier, I mean by Fox. The boxes all said Ford Ranger on them and someone had taken a sharpie and covered it up. I think I'd do something else, if I were to do it again. Maybe radflo or something.

I’m in the South East, and nice dude! Always like meeting a fellow P4X owner!

Awesome info, I was considering that exact setup, fox 2.0 and parabolic, so I appreciate the information! Dobinson 3 inch lift does look really nice, love the greasable fittings too! And thanks man! I’m loving the wheel tire combo!

Thanks 🙏 😁

Thank you! Cheers!

Thanks bro! 🤘