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Saddest part is that there is no honor anymore... from either side.

No one is nastier to anyone than Republicans are to other Republicans who actually want to win at politics. Extremely realistic depiction of the self hamstringing

This is quite prescient. Now all the House Republicans do is hold bogus hearings, trying to pin something on Biden, just to appease the worst president we have ever had.

If the committee was being run by Gym Jordan or domestic abuser James Comer they would have continued with the hearing.

A principled republican? Truly fictional.

Anyone else feeling the resonance of "that's why good people hate us" in this particular moment of 2024?

That scene is a PERFECT preview of the utter drooling, "win at any cost" / lying and cheating / dirty tricks slime-bags that nearly ALL of the "Republican" "party" later devolved into becoming. Sorkin was prescient.

"this is why people hate us" >>>then comes along Newt Gingrich, shutting down the gov't as a flex before getting caught in a corruption scandal he'd accuse the dems of having. Then comes a fake war on WMD that doesn't exist in Iraq and "you're with us or you're against us" and Freedom Fries. Then Ted Cruz. Then comes a presidental candidate saying POWs are losers. Then comes J6. and too many more in between to count.

"Stick to race-baiting like a good Republican."

Written when some republicans had both ethics and balls.

LOL funny how gibson looks like like adam schiff lol & just as shady corrupt & insane.

How prophetic.

should be required viewing for the GOP bozos in the HEC etc. " hearings are to investigate if any rules ,ethical or otherwise, were broken .." which means backing it up with facts and proof. "the object is to win ". which infers -by any means necessary, truth be damned-. which do you think MTG,MG,JJ,LB, etc abides by ?

I’m watching in late September 2023 while the Republicans are imploding and concurrently running bullshit committee hearings on impeachment, there are actual grifters in congress, representative Bobert was just caught getting felt up and squeezing her dates Johnson in public, and the hapless Speaker of the House just adjourned without a continuing resolution to keep the government from shutting down October 1. Not even mentioning the four x indicted mad man who by all appearances will be the Republican nominee for president in 2024. Frankly alcoholism as a career ending issue seems pretty far away. Oh for the old days.

Oh for the days when even republicans had values.

Cliff "the cuck" Calley isn't a real Republican. He's a Hollywood liberal's idea of what a good little pet RINO should be- agree with all the donkey's false premises, don't disagree with the conclusions too much, lose with dignity, then help them ruin the country. Aaron Sorkin has a lot to atone for.

Do I like Rudyard Kipling. I dunno. I never have Kippeled For the innocent knee-high grass, For the ditch that never tells, Look out! Look out ere you pass- And look out for everything else! A sign mis-read as you run May turn retreat to a rout- For all things under the sun (Chorus) All Patrols look out! Royal Pain?

The part of this (the Republican play) that never made real sense to me is why make it about Leo's relapse? That is vindictive and slimy and not what the hearings were for. But the fact that Bartlett had an attack right before a high-stress moment on the campaign... that is at least reasonably fair game IMO. The Rep could have easily brought that up without embarrassing Leo & it would've been the bigger political blow.

“This is why good people hate us.” Meanwhile, Democrats have no issue with dragging Michael Flynn, Carter Page and George Papadopolis through the mud and destroying their lives in order to get Trump. Such tactics are only impermissible when Republicans do it, apparently.

I was channel surfing one night, that's what they called it back then, when I stopped on this show for all of two minutes tops and had that line, that exact line seared into my brain, to remember it ever since every time a similar situation arose. Oh, and never knew what the show was or anything else about it. SEARED. Just like you too I guess. Beautiful line right up there with the rest of the best!

Gym Jordan is this clown…!!!

Only in a work of fiction would you ever see a display like this of republican ethics or decency. The Fast & the Furious franchise is more realistic.

Apparently a great show. Apparently not great enough to put its fucking title up.

Seemed like a fair question.

I am watching this in 2023, when this is now the only purpose of Congressional hearings.

There are a lot of people in Washington who are like this. The problem is that they aren't ruthless enough to become party bosses, they aren't narcissistic enough to get on the news very often, and they aren't corrupt enough to get mega donors behind them. As a result, they rarely last more than a couple of terms. It's a shame that honorable conduct just isn't rewarded in congress.

RNC doesn't have to worry what good people think. Good people don't vote for them.

Just ONCE in real life wouldn’t it be GREAT if politicians and or their minions could TAKE THE HIGH ROAD

Why is this lit like a romantic dinner?

I miss my Republican friends. We often disagreed about policies, but rarely about principles. Most are still in a state of shock or denial about how thoroughly they let the extremists steamroll them.

It's worth the time to hit on this video just to read the *[great]* comments. FWIW, I too am a reluctant Republican -- one who will NEVER align with the _anti_ -Republican creeps of the Gingrinch/McConnel/tRumpian flavor. I can never be a Democrat, but *"This is why good people hate us."* is not something that should ever be written about a political party.

If only the Republican Part had listened to this advice all those years ago…

Remember when Americans used to believe that something very much like the West Wing was how their government ran? That in some form this is what it was really like? Perhaps THAT is what Donald Trump stole from America that had the most value. That was when that fat, orange, grifter stuck the dagger right into the heart of the United States of America. History will note that THAT loss was the beginning of the end.

Maybe because I'm on the opposite team but. You are killing the party really hits home. I grew up feeling republicans had a different definition of victory but overall we're good people. I want to still believe that and I do for the most part on an individual basis however as a party I honestly don't know what they stand for except winning.

I know a lot of conservatives hate the West Wing, but I actually think the show did a good job overall of not portraying Republicans as just one-dimensional idiots of monsters. Alan Alda's character is a great example of this as well.

Sadly, a fictional TV show is the only place you would ever see this kind of behavior.

It wasn't just that Cliff Calley was a mensch. Leo wouldn't have been spared this embarrassment if Bruno hadn't been one as well. My favorite thing about this show was their ability to show good and bad people on both sides of the aisle.

Incredible threat. "I will wait for you in the tall grass"

It was laughable back then that a high powered lawyer in the RNC would give a damn about procedure or the proper scope of things over scoring political points and now it is so far fetched as to be impossible to even pretend

Unfortunately the kind of people who would confront the Senator like that rarely make it far in party politics. It is a fact that makes this scene cathartic but also completely unrealistic

LMAO, must have been nice to live back during a time when something as relatively minor and petty as THIS was considered "Killing the Republican Party". Turns out that fucking thing can survive a shot to the head with a radioactive bullet.

Awesome clip, though you have the Congressman a promotion to Senator!

If only the real GOP showed a modicum of this integrity.

This was a precursor to what the republiKKKlan party has become in real life.

The man "in the real world" won...

With the current political climate what's unbelievable is a politician who wouldn't act solely in the interest of making sure their party "wins".

I'm a lifelong Conservative.....and I absolutely loved WW. I have voted several times in my life for Democrats when I felt they had more to offer than the "other" choices. It's my opinion that if today's Democratic Party matched the one portrayed on WW they would be hands down unbeatable. Unfortunately both parties have diverged so much they have us at each others throats.....and that is NOT GOOD.

The most unbelievable scene in the entire show. A good Republican

It is a lack of willpower however it’s more complicated than that. It’s fuelled by mental illness that makes you feel a variety of horrible physical symptoms as well as emotional stressors. It’s a living hell and you know it can only be relieved by drink/drugs and you know how to get them. “You think alcoholism is a lack of Will power? That like saying a torture victim giving in to his torturers is a coward”

"It's okay. I got it." Fuck Gibson just for that.