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DeClue's Views
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A man of eclectic interests, I enjoy sharing my views and learning others' views on cars, cocktails, fountain pens, philosophy, politics, theology, travel, and the Oxford comma.
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An Introduction to the Second Vatican Council: Antecedents and Aims
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Hey Dr DeClue….are you ever going to move to the DFW area like you had previously mentioned? You could make great contributions to the University of Dallas if you were here.
@@TH-camwatcher-h2m I appreciate your comment. I will not be moving to the DFW area, though. The Institute is no longer based there.
Hey Richard, sorry I had to dip out. I would say Marx is a good pick for worst philosopher. If you asked me, I would complement him with John Locke before Marx and Karl Popper after him. All of them have an anti-Christian anthropology, I think, and perniciously so because of how Christians have mistakenly adopted it in different ways. Edit: On second thought I would choose Hobbes over Locke, for similar reasons but he might be more influential
When using TH-cam as a learning tool, I find that the comment section often has interesting insight and sometimes links to further interesting information. I was quite surprised to see so many negative comments about the young man from Southern California's T-shirt, hat, and even general demeanor. Have these people been to Southern California? I suppose presenting so regionally can be distracting to people who have not had a chance to leave their bubbles. I also saw comments calling him a perpetual adolescent. This gave me a chuckle. I work with 13-year-olds five days a week. The negative characteristics of adolescence we hope to overcome are not a baseball cap and T-shirt. What we hope to overcome as we mature are thinking everyone has to look and talk like you to fit in, being cruel to people who aren't in your club, creating cliques, and ignoring the substance of what someone says to be able to continue making them someone you can project your hate on.
@@ingridskousgard Very well articulated! And let’s be honest, if someone from their “side” did the same thing, they wouldn’t have had any complaints. It’s just a cheap shot meant to poison the well.
Saw you on the Word On Fire 10 questions and came hunting for more content from you. Keep up the great work. I’ve enjoyed your interviews
@@gregp716 Thank you! I’ve got quite a few offerings on Locals and older videos on this Channel.
Speak to the actions of bergoglio et al who are apparent tools of satan who have used the openended language of Vatican 2 to destroy the Traditional Bride of Christ.
We should really abolish the term ‘nouvelle Théologie’, stop using it. It is like when back in the day in literature we used to define as ‘school’ any group of poets who wrote in the same period in a certain region, even though there was nothing essential in common between them. In the catalogue of the new theology there are some patently heretics and others who are clearly anti-modernists.
Richard, thank you for sharing your exposition and thoughts. I just have a few comments tied to a couple of questions: 1) On p. 166-167 in the updated 2014 version of 'Dare We Hope,' Balthasar asks: 'Can human defiance really resist to the end the representative assumption of its sins by the incarnate God?' and characterizes two possibly responses vis-a-vis the distinction between sufficient grace and efficient grace. Do you have any comments on this? It reminds me of his writings elsewhere on 1) the difference between created freedom and divine freedom, and 2) the meaning of this distinction between created/divine freedom in Mary's fiat (e.g. the Annunciation is not a question addressed to Mary, but an annunciation of what will actually be -- and, paradoxically, the call of God, which is greater than any creaturely capacity for rejecting the call, does not destroy Mary's created freedom, but fulfills it). Is there not a sense in which this dynamic is also at play in our limited (created) freedom to resist God's divine freedom to save us, who can save us nonetheless in a way that fulfills our freedom? While we are free to reject God's offer of salvation, God is also free to accompany the sinner in his rejection "to the end". 2) At the end of the Theo-Drama, Balthasar asks the question of eternal damnation not from our perspective (what do I have to lose if I lose God?), but from God's (what does God lose if he loses man?). Of course it doesn't mean there is a lack in God to which only man can supply (there is no lack in God), but it is interesting to think about it from the perspective of how far God will go to save all of creation and to not lose any part of it. Do you have thoughts on this question of Balthasar? Thank you!
Hello Richard, I am only now discovering this video; I have listened up to your question about the 'non-personality' of the devil, and wanted to offer one possible insight toward interpreting this. In Theo-Drama III, for Balthasar, personhood is defined by one who receives and responds to the call of mission in Christ; in other words, such a calling is not extraneous to the meaning of being a person, but essential to its meaning and definition. I wonder if the "lack of this" is what Balthasar has in mind for the devil who no only rejects his mission, but in the process also rejects his personhood ("non-personality"). Thanks!
Fifty-two years ago, I was surprised into a deep love for the Church, and became a Catholic. I am delighted to begin learning now about Henri de Lubac. And I do appreciate the history that you include in this video, from Aquinas to de Lubac. My favorite line in Scripture (at this moment, because I am thinking about it at this moment!) is 1 John 3:2 -- ..."we will be like Him for we will see Him as He is." "God does not owe this. God does not owe us the grace to attain our final beatitude," So NOW my favorite Bible verse is John 1:16 -- ..."Grace after Grace!" It explains everything, and supports both Humani Generis and what I understand you to be saying de Lubac says. Thank you.
@@susand3668 Glad you found the channel! Just so you know, I now do much more content in my DeClue’s Views Community on the Locals platform. On there, I did a series summarizing de Lubac’s book “Catholicism” chapter by chapter.
I am glad that I have found your channel. I am just learning about de Lubac. You have gained another subscriber.
Sorry I missed this live. Prayers for your uncle
Also, have you thought of trying Patreon? It's just an easy platform, at least from the subscriber perspective and I am almost 100% sure you can do livestreams. It seems a lot less complicated than the one you are currently using.
My condolences... My mother died of cancer in '21 ar 67 years of age.. cancer is horrible but it does give you the time to get things sorted out, take purgatory time off, and get all the sacraments.. its horrible but its also merciful in the sense of being able to wrap up all the loose ends and get right with the Lord.. I'll be praying for you all ! God bless
Only Q & A's now ??
@@christopherk222 I switched to the Locals platform (still DeClue’s Views) a while ago and have done several videos on there.
@@decluesviews2740 Oh well. . .
Very helpful Thank you! I have to say that I find the title attractive: having a great adventure woaw♥️
This was the best explanation of the "subsistit in" controversy that I've ever come across. I don't know why you're getting downvoted so much - people seem to want to stubbornly hold on to their schismatic beliefs. It's not Catholic, at all. Thank you for this video.
It is painfully obvious that Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre is another St. Francis in that he was put in place by Almighty God to hold up His Church. He almost single-handedly saved the Priesthood and the Mass. He was and remains, my much loved, spiritual father. I thank God for him and the Society of St. Pius X. We are Roman Catholic, in union with Rome, but refuse to follow anyone, even a pope, into heresy and idolatry.
Jesus Christ have mercy. Taylo Marshall has a lot of supporters in this comments section
We pray for souls in the hell of purgatory and not the hell of damnation because those there chose to go there
Balthazar denies free will,because not everyone wants to go to heaven we condemn ourselves to hell, hoping everyone goes to heaven denies those who want to go to hell, if you deny that there are people in hell you deny free will
As I say at the end of the video: I don’t agree with Balthasar. However, you are mischaracterizing his position. Maybe listen carefully to the full video to see how.
@@decluesviews2740 I've listened to your position but you rejected my position At the end of the day mystics won't save you the sacraments will
@@martinmartin1363 What are you talking about? How am I relying on mystics to save me? I said I do NOT agree with Balthasar, but that you aren’t accurately expressing his position either. How is that “relying on mystics”? You’re pulling stuff out of thin air irrationally.
@@decluesviews2740 Wow calm down 😳 l never accused you of anything l clearly made a statement of truth, I know how balthazar feels 😂 and yet like you l don't agree with him. I clearly made a statement of truth and I didn't point a finger at anyone , you are reading into what I'm saying as a personal attack. That said I like your channel Please don't think I'm being sarcastic 😁 God bless
Jesus tells the parable of Lazarus and the rich man they descended into hell Lazarus to the paradise of the bosom of Abraham and the rich man to the hell of the damned Jesus quite clearly says that there is a hell of damnation and there is an abyss separating the two and neither can cross over
Von Balthazar’s teachings are based on the mystic he promoted Adrienne Von speyr and especially on her version of the decent into Hell by Jesus which is contrary to the council of Trent which says Jesus descended into the paradise of the bosom of Abraham the hell of waiting, and Bishop challenor wrote on this too, St. John of the cross warned of trusting in mysticism.
Challenge is, Christ doesn't teach that.
Hello. My question as I am new to this topic is did the Pope determine that the SSPX is in schism? I appreciate this video as I am new to this topic. Thank you.
Yes multiple popes have referred to them as in schism. Also, the very traditional Cardinal Burke, who was the head of the highest canon law court in the Church has asserted that they are canonically in schism. John Salza has great material explaining all this.
@@decluesviews2740 I appreciate you taking the time to inform me. I will look into the material you reference. Thank you very much.
You are the rare person I like and subscribe to when asked to like and subcribe. You're radically accoountable, man-- it shines through, thank you.
I appreciate that very much! Thank you
I appreciate your input. Certainly the discussion serves as a cautionary tale for all of us to do our homework. Thank you for the loving way you speak about Taylor as a brother in Christ. I realize this video is very old..but I’m in the process of trying to do my own homework. I would love to hear an update on your views of the Vatican leadership most recently. Certainly the “human factor” applies in all walks of life. But with our beloved Holy Catholic Church I think most of us are just worried that Satan is swirling around trying to get a foothold among the decision makers..that we will never have access to. We dread being lead blindly..to the destruction of our Church.I’m 73..so I lived pre and post Vatican 2. At the time, I loved everything about the Latin Mass and didn’t think we needed to change anything..My recollection is that the most obvious changes were of course using the vernacular, music and the orientation of the celebrants on the altar. Over many years, the silly disrespectful season showed up at some masses. I personally have never experienced anything as awful as a “Chicken Dance”. I currently attend Novus Orto in a lovely chapel with reverent well intentioned people. I miss the longer format that allowed for more time on our knees to spend quality time in prayer and reflection and to express adequate worship. Our Praise Music is nice.. I lived through the Peter, Paul and Mary stage..I was a teenager and liked it😊. But I much prefer Gregorian splendor or traditional praise songs. Then again I love going with my Protestant friends to the musical extravaganza’s of their services! Wow..they can sing..every word, every verse. Catholics..not so much! I find that people are very respectful and reverent in that format as well..but, for the actual Mass.. I think we have become casual, in our dress and attitude while inside the church. I hope Jesus is glad they showed up..only he knows what’s in each heart.. anyway..thank you for this follow-up. Well done young men! God Bless you both..
"Scandal?" What are you guys "throwing out?" Sounds like a huge dose of prideful criticism on both your parts. I would be more inclined to listen to your thoughts with an open mind if you would engage in dialogue with Dr. Marshall, as opposed to doing a whole show dedicated to criticism of a person you don't seem to want to talk with.
We reached out to him; he didn’t seem inclined. I also find your comment ironic, since he does the same thing. Anyone who puts out theological claims in public is fair game. We refute his comments point by point. You don’t have to like it, but merely whining that we dared challenge him at all is childish and unserious.
I saw that T & T conversation. I thought it was a good sensationalist take on De Lubac. I am now reading reading Le mystère du surnaturel and relishing the sensation of mentally scoring points as I am able to see how spectacularly the two T's had missed the point. Their video was a good entry point despite and - above all - thanks to its flaws.
Actually at the bottom page of each book of the Bible is a small intro to that book I noticed
I appreciate this video very much. Thank you.
I think what you're missing here is that we really don't know that anyone has ever been damned or ever will be. We know that we all merit hell, but we also know God's mercy is infinite. So not only can we hope that all are saved, but we are obliged to do so out of charity and hope. There is no difference between hoping that each individual, and all individuals be saved. It is the same hope. Your hang up that surely someone is in hell is precisely the lack of radical hope Balthasar is arguing against. If we say that we have certainty that even one person is in hell, then we are lacking in the theological virtue of hope and lack of faith in God's divine mercy. We can still maintain no expectation that all will be saved because we can maintain man's free will and therefore his ability to freely reject God's love and mercy. We simply must hope that no man has or ever will, and continue to work towards that end.
Good video.. I attend NO as well as TLM. Prefer TLM. I was thinking recently that had the NO had simply changed the Latin Mass into the language of where it it was celebrated- maybe the reaction to NO would have been accepted easier
This is so helpful. You explained everything very well.
Good stuff, DeClue. This is a very complicated and nuanced debate, but I think Catholics are backsliding a bit with regard to the SSPX, at least of late. Interestingly, Ratzinger was often criticized for being _too_ lenient towards the SSPX, and Francis' alternative tack has been to more or less dismiss not only the SSPX but also traditional Catholics. What everyone acknowledges is that, within or without the Church, the SSPX represent a counterweight to Catholic progressivism. Personally I would call the SSPX "liberal" no more than I would call Dollinger or the 11-century Orthodox "liberal." Their objections are based on a conservatism and a resistance to change. When Ratzinger says the SSPX and liberal Catholics both have a similar problem, I do not read him as saying that the SSPX are liberal. I'd say he is making a more nuanced hermeneutics-of-tradition point.
He was a very holy man, and a wonderful Pope. Not given enough credit for that, but I believe what he said about the Church. It will be smaller but holy. I miss him. For me he is a saint ❤
14:06 - "For the reasons discussed above, as well as the fact that Balthasar’s primary argument in support of hope for the salvation of all is that the eternal loss of some implies a defect in God’s omnipotence, it would appear Balthasar’s denials of _apokatastasis_ are just as “rhetorical” as those for which he criticizes Karl Barth" (Alyssa Pitstick, Light in Darkness, p. 270). I have never listened to the TH-cam personalities you are responding to and I like much of Balthasar's work, but I think this book is particularly bad, and there are many accomplished theologians who agree. I did not read the sequel. Kevin Flannery's, "How to Think About Hell," is particularly good. Among the many problems is the fact that Balthasar's arguments logically conclude in universal salvation, not hope. In fact it would be very hard, given the way that Balthasar argues, to stop short of that conclusion. Pitstick is exactly right, although others have independently noted the same thing. ...So if someone like Marshall calls Balthasar a Universalist, it is a misrepresentation over which I will lose very little sleep. I would say that Balthasar (and Barth) were "all but Universalists." Edit: It is perhaps worth noting that I know a number of progressive Catholic theologians and clerics who view Balthasar as a Universalist, _and agree with him!_ David Bentley Hart sees Balthasar as a closet Universalist, and is very much indebted to him in his book, "That all Shall Be Saved."
I don’t fully agree with that quote from Pitstick. Von Balthasar makes it clear time and again that damnation is a real, serious possibility, and it is based on our freedom to reject the grace. It is more of a reflection on the forgotten virtue of hope (which he explicitly notes is between the vices of presumption and despair) and the extent to which we are called foster it than a reflection on what one believes about the census of the afterlife. If someone says they aren’t a universalist, and that each of us much take seriously the FACT that we are in REAL danger of damnation, then I do not think it is justifiable to say, “yeah, but you’re really a universalist though.” That being said: if you watch to the end, I admit that I don’t agree with him. But one does have to contend with his actual arguments from scripture and mystical saints. And I do find it personally challenging to me with respect to reflecting on the meaning of the virtue of hope. Faith and Charity are regularly discussed, while hope is sort of passed over with a wave of the hand frequently.
@@decluesviews2740 When I read the book it felt obvious to me that Balthasar's arguments concluded in something different from his rhetorical conclusion. I then noticed that scholars like Pitstick and Flannery noted the exact same thing. "If someone says they aren't a universalist..." I think you're overlooking the fact that this is _exactly what Balthasar does with respect to Barth_ ! Are we not allowed to say of Balthasar exactly what he said of Barth, especially when it seems patently true? I would agree with you insofar as we cannot call Balthasar a heretic, but I agree with Pitstick, Flannery, and others who argue that Balthasar's arguments go beyond his rhetorical conclusion. I don't know that the theological virtues are addressed very often in general, but you are right that hope is addressed less than the others. But I would say that the reason for this is that hope is quite subtle and difficult to expound on. A polemical book like _Dark We Hope,_ which was written "under fire," can never possess the subtlety needed to expound on hope. I think you raise good points throughout, but I would simply say that Balthasar does deserve a bit of blame for this book.
Thank you for your explanations. I have appreciated Taylor's videos, and have his book Infiltration, (though haven't yet read), I have been very uncomfortable/Unbelieving) of his view of Vatican II. Thanks for your clarification!❤
Thank you! For more, see the full 2+ hour response video that this was clipped from.
What nobody seems to mention is the second council of Orange. Togethet with waht Aquinas affirms here se may reach an intetesting conclusion.
I'll take two. Keep the change : )
Yeah, it was a great car until the timing chain broke on the interstate, destroying my engine and having to honk to prevent semis from rear-ending me. 😬
Agreed with everything you said in this video and I look forward to reading that book. I’ve got a GoldenDoodle too, his name is Sean.
I shook his hand once and spoke to him very briefly. You could feel the kindness and holiness coming from him.
Thanks for your video blog. Loyalty to God's church on earth per Matt 16, verse 18 is paramount, through thick and thin, the good, bad and the ugly. SOME of these so called traditionalists have no charity. I've felt it personally. St. Paul said you can have great faith but if you have no charity, love, it's nothing. I've been to Latin Mass several times. It's fine, once and a while, but I prefer it in English.
Fantastic discussion. Love it.
Always looking forward to your thought on this important topic in the Church in particular. Thanks! Please throw the world a few bones every now and then on TH-cam here about this!
great and balanced analysis
I dislike the NAB translation. I agree. The footnotes are terrible. I prefer the RSV, CE. It’s the translation used in The Catechism.
I must say that for a time in my life, I was very dedicated to the “Traditionalist” movement in Catholicism. Dr Marshall was someone I listened to extensively at that time. For me, it led me down a bad path. I felt quite cut off from anything besides syllogisms, and I noticed a great deal of pride and anger towards others. Bishop Barron, Henri de Lubac, the Fathers, etc helped re-ignite my spiritual life.
I have noticed, and I would be quite curious about your point of view, that - as a group - individuals actively doing theology at universities tend to not fall into silos as often as those doing theology on the internet. I find this to be especially the case at institutions with more diversity of opinion. One strength of academics, it seems to me, is the positive confrontation which one faces when arguing for ideas.
It doesn’t have to be in a university setting, but they seem to be an institution which (at their best) support such discussions. You hear so often about friendships between the powerful theologians and philosophers where each thought differently. Barth and Balthasar. Clement and Sartre. The list goes on.
This is such an amazing channel.
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Long Live the SSPX!