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Well done young man! I am a Philmont veteran, avid backpacker and a leader taking a group out to Philmont this summer. I thought your gear selection and choices were great! However, ultralight backpacks are not for everyone and trail runners do not give you the same level of ankle support as traditional hiking boots. I think your comment about a sleeping bag vs backpacking quilt is spot on. We all sleep differently and I agree with your thoughts about a Scout not taking one to Philmont due to the temperature swings one can find over there. I have partnered a 45 degree bag with a "Sea to Summit Thermolite Reactor Extreme" bag liner. Like you, I would rather have enough insulation for at night than not enough. Again, nicely done.

preppng 4 philmont 4 2024 thx 4 the help

great video, thanks so much for the quality content!

Very helpful, well done, and still relevant! Good job and thank you!

Thank You sir, great video!

I can’t remember if I used something similar, but I cut out a lot of extra stuff and ended up just carrying 8+ liters of water. My pack weighed almost 60 pounds, but it was definitely worth it because we always had enough water (This is in addition to my regular gear)

You should post more I really like you videos it helped me packing for backpacking trips for boy scouts

Thank you for the great video, very informative. Great Work.

Just saw this. Very well done. You have learned well, Grasshopper. Thanks for the name drop (this is Mr. McDonald).

Is it ever cold? During the day and at night

Going this summer and I'm so hyped!

Thanks so much for your insight, bud. Great appreciated.

I bought my kid a 40 degree compact Walmart sleeping bag and bought a nice liner to increase warmth. Add 20 degrees to the rating listed on your bag.

I'm starting to prepare for Philmont in a year and now I know what amount of money I need to work for over the wait. Thanks a lot, bro.

4L of water weights just over 8 lbs. Check your trek and see how often you will be near water and if you happen to be near water most of the day I would not hike with an extra 8 lb of water.

Great video. I was impressed by the research you did. Great insight from a scout that has been to Philmont and made corrections. I am departing for Philmont in a matter of days but I already have A lot of backpacking experience. I would totally agree with the logic behind the gear choices, "only use gear that can have two purposes." I only have a couple critiques for this Awesome scout. I am an ultra light backpacker so I use the lightest but most effective gear I can get my hands on. Instead of the recommended 75 liter pack I would opt for a 50-65 liter pack. I would also not use a pack cover even if your pack is not "water proof" (no pack is truly waterproof due to the seems in the material.) My personal favorite pack is The REI Flash 55. It is a 55 liter pack and weighs very little. It has an extremely efficient design and has many outer pockets. The only downside to the pack is if your above 6'0 it is out of question due to REI not making large enough sizes. Kudos to this scout. Great work!!!

I just learned that You have to bring your own stove. Does anyone here has recommended stoves and how many canisters will be needed for 12-days treks?

Leader advisor for a crew of 10 boys and 2 adults going this august. This video is super helpful. Thanks

Thank you for the nice video. All future Philmont-bound scouts and leaders should watch and listen to your video. Technology has really helped lightening the load a scout has to carry. I took my troop (Troop 130 Maynard MA) to Philmont 3 times in 1986, 88 and 90. In those days, everything weighed a lot more than today's. As the adult leader and Scoutmaster to the scouts whom I lead, we were prepared and had pre-inspection before leaving for the trip from Massachusetts. I also carried 35mm SLR camera with 200mm telephoto lens and 20+ rolls of 36 exposure per roll. The parents loved the slideshows I brought back from the trips. Digitized version of the pictures will be shown at the Troop's 40th Anniversary later this month. Many of the Scouts and Leaders will be in attendance.

How necessary is it to have a tent? I see that it wasn't included so I was wondering if you slept under the stars most of the time?

Thank you for making this video - took a bunch of notes.

Well done Patrick! I didn't know you made this. Required viewing for our crews.

How much did all this weigh again? I think I missed that part.

Great video! I am a gear junkie and agree with a lot of what you went over with gear. Love our USA 🇺🇸 cottage vendors!

Loved your recommendations and especially encouraging our local cottage industries. Will try out the trail runners and great suggestion about rain-mitts, Thank you!

Just signed up for Summer 2023 cant wait

I have been looking at backpacking gear for Philmont for a while now and this video really helped me with that. Great video.

Agree with most, more than 4 liters of water is needed especially if it’s a dry camp. Would recommend 8 maybe 6

2021er here bring camp shoes! I didt and dang that was a horrible idea

Great video!

Just went to Philmont, wish I knew this lol.

Having to crunch for my Philmont Trip 😭 THIS WAS VERY HELPFUL 🙌

Philmont 2008 Startedmy journey to lightening up my load. Really taught me what I actually needed and did not for a long trek.

noticed you wear contacts as do i. I was wondering if you ever had problems about dry eyes and just general maintenance with wearing them while out there. Did you run into any problems with them and if so what did you do to mitigate those issues. Thanks

This was a very useful video. I was concerned that all the materials would not fit in my backpack, but your storage methods were very helpful. Thank you so much, I look forward to my trip!

Good vid bro do u watch Darwin on the trail cuz he recommends a lot of gear u got!

Klymit pads are also very good

Merino wool socks also work very well

Great job. I’ve been backpacking regularly since my trek got canceled in 2018. (Already had the equipment. Why not?!) tried again in 2020… all of what you speak of is spot on. Since my trip was canceled I’ve been slowly investing in lighter gear. I’ve got my base weight to just under 16pounds to be comfortable down to the teens. About 12 pounds for warm weather base weight. I am going to Philmont in September barring any other issues. Can’t wait. It will be my first time there. Thanks for your excellent video!

Great info from a Scout's perspective. Passing this on to our crew. Thank you!

I also wear contacts and I have concerns about them. Any advice?

Nice job!

Great Video! What size/how many liters is your clothes dry bag?

I'm preparing for Philmont this summer and have been watching a lot of gear videos, but yours is definitely one of the better, more useful ones. I'm still on the fence deciding between boots and trail runners, but your video gives me a better sense of determining criteria. I probably will still stick with boots because I suspect that I will end up with 40-50 pounds because of troop gear. Your video is well researched, well done. Kudos to you.

Do you have an estimated cost on how much this all was?

Great job of putting the video together. As I was watching the video, however, I was trying to do some mental arithmetic to determine how much this trip to Philmont was going to cost. Plane ticket, round trip; cost of gear; Philmont cost, etc. My initial thought is that we are talking thousands of dollars. Am I wrong?

This was a great video. I'm sharing with our crews. Thank you!

Great video Patrick! I do have a question and as I am an adult I will ask it here instead of an email (Safe Scouting). Your pack looked rather full so how did you pack your Philfood?