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Also, well done for talking about disagreements and negativity on the internet: Bill W would be very proud of you 👍

I don't completely blame myself for everything that had me doing alcohol and illicit drugs, but l certainly don't leave myself out of the equation either. I as a new comer, couldn't seem to adapt to A A/N A meetings. The environment was often unsafe because l had a decent education, and could understand real easy, what l read or was hearing others share at meetings. To get to the bottom of what precisely caused me to drink and use drugs, l applied to Holistic approach to recovery. I looked at people, places and things around me, including family, but l mostly looked at my own behavior. I did this Spiritually, Mentally, Emotionally and Physically. I was able to see how my thinking and my feelings played a major role in my drinking and drug use. When l changed the two of them, that led to change in the other two. In 9 years, l went from being a member of A A/N A to becoming a therapist myself after going back to school. I now have 14 years of clean time under my belt, and I'm getting sober everyday. I'm functionally deaf in both ears, as a result of alcoholism, but it hasn't stopped me from getting three different degrees in school, after being a dropout with just a 9th grade education. Emotional Sobriety open the door up for me to see how l was letting the substances back into my life by the way I Thought and Felt.

looks like she took her video down. I think she did it because of the hate she got. She was friggin' ABUSED. WTF is WRONG with common empathy? Thank you for having empathy and caring about her and explaining all this.

That's crazy her sponsor locked her in a room and told her she would be a hooker. That's cruel and a crime!! It's kidnapping and forceful confinement. I'm so disturbed that poor woman was stuck there listening to that. It's not going to help anyone.

Step 1 is the important one. AA and NA meetings provide social fellowship with people who value sobriety. NA and AA are not cults.

Satan doesn't want you to recover. That is why AA and NA are called a cult by the New World Order media

the proper name is cannabis not marijuana.

Meetings are bullshit same shit every day same dead ass stories brainwashing at it’s finest

worldwide, ur 5% "success" is a shameful sell, wen there's way higher success in every other methods! 1st step uses "powerless" +"unmanageable". then a power imbalance, +naive trust in a strange sponsor! i had bad experiences, +am now squeaky clean. too much abuse in group, +a large amount of hype +bullying to indoctrinate! then, if u pass +survive to be accepted by click, Ur now addicted to the group! im free, clean, independent, EMPOWERED, +MANAGEABLE !!!!!!!!! 5% success?? wat else r u selling!?

Nice explanation and presentation..we actually learned some things that we didn't know before..thank you so much!!

First of all I have no idea why this addict's share is on TH-cam, I have no idea who elected Jexi as an authority on either NA or AA as a New Comer regardless of NA or AA that newcomer has to make a decision to get clean or not. Who knows where or what was going on in that meeting but it should have be address at the business meeting. For the folk behind or infront Jexi is not an authority we have no authority in NA or AA there is an IP 16 for the newcomer that explains whats going on - IP 29 Intro to meetings; 0. Narcotics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the NA name ought never be drawn into public controversy. 11. Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio, and films. 12. Anonymity is the spiritual foundation

Pot will absolutely cause you to relapse, no matter what your drug of choice. I know it sucks. Just speaking the truth.

Yo, the haters be jealous dawg, this what's up, this what's deadass. NA works. AA works. All that be work. They get outside the you, get you into something, be active, have something. All that real. Big props that's what's up. Every anonymous program, also the therapy groups, the lighthouse, the jail groups all that. Big what's up to all them. Major love on top on point every day, keeping straight. And to that little lady that made that video - keep coming back. We got you.

I need to do a na online meeting to look good in court my public defender said I need to do atleast three any recommendations plz nobody’s helping me

Expect to be brainwashed into thinking you are powerless. All 12 step programs are CULTS.

Thanks for this video! Feeling really lonely right now. I feel more hope now.

I beat 10 year alcohol addiction with weed. AA just kept telling me never to do it, until I stopped listening to them. No more relapses since then

I am wrestling with it as I'm in AA tks for ur share

Madchild didn't say he was 85 pounds from weight-loss. He said he gained 85 pounds and was only doing face pics because of how much weight he'd gained. Some addictions include an accompanying food-addiction that causes this. It's very common for addicts to have multiple addictions occurring at the same time.

You okay ?

Check out Dr. chris palmer and his keto diet for mental health. Also, The Freedom Model.

I am a very long time member of NA/AA meeting's. 23 when I was walked to my 1st meeting in Detroit. I always laugh bout my first thoughts of the fellowship members. They were too friendly,! Thought they were no way like me! Who offers a hug to a Crack head thief like myself. Thought they really were full of BS. Dressed to nice had to be a safe haven for mostly the area drug dealers. And offered me coffee lol, which at moment was a brain washing substance for these people to be under there control. Looking back with a clear mind 2 weeks away from a new mile stone 3 years clean. I was Blessed they planted a mustard seed, that for me at least was able to keep coming back with multiple almost death as an outcome relapses! My opinion is that newcomers need to be greeted and treated with respect. They may or may not feel they have a problem with drugs like I Did. I was suggested to by a NA Sponsor to bring the body the mind will show up, when I can't answer. And To give myself the gift of time! For me it's bout being with the winners of NA;, and that can be anyone that walks into there first meeting. I live in a rural city in Yale. We just had our first NA meeting Saturday May 4th. Fresh Start group. Now it's a blessing. to be able to be a part of planting a seed of recovery to someone who may not feel they belong. Thank you HP and other members that are helping this Miracle to happen. ☮️, ,🙏's & ❤️out to all! Sorry bout being so long winded in my response! I was at 1 time very quite and isolated till the NA fellowship and program started to help me change.

i met a lot of stoners who lived a relatively happy life, and did not end up in a jail or in an institution, they will die, but we all will...

19:00 "the ppl there were CLEARLY addicted to the meetings"... another channel calls this "sobriety disorder"

Claiming na is bullshit in the description to further the agenda of na is kind of the cult like behavior that I hate about the program. Along with other things I used to try and have a great respect for the program but after a while I have caught onto either the 13th step nature and how were so nice you can’t find a way out mentality. Like look trust me I’m not in the program. Please don’t push your principles on me that I don’t agree with. I don’t like feeling bounced around to another group. I’m speaking for myself not the na unity. I only went to a few meetings and yes it’s an outside problem of a random Karen being real bitch. She’s not my mother and has no interest in my wellbeing it’s a pushy narcissist and the groups are very toxic in my area. I haven’t been to one in a long time although the specific is a thirteen stepper who rushes into the fourth step to blackmail members along with the clicky nature. Can you imagine everyone agreeing with that? It’s been over ten years the way it’s run is not going change. Everyone just nods and knows exactly how im talking.

I'm doing total abstinence because I have that addictive personality

Grateful that you are able to put into words what I believe to be a Loving and caring way to treat others in NA. So many lives are being saved by these wonder drugs that can actually stop the cravings, remove the fog, so a person CAN recover. More and more treatments facilities and entire countries require the use of medication for addicts… And to attend NA mtgs!!!! I support a person who does share her progress in titrating down on the medication and also emphasizes they cannot do it without mtgs. They must attend the mtgs and this is even though the person is often confronted with the “You ain’t clean” line. When did we forget that judgement of any kind can run someone, seeking help, out the door to a relapse and often death. Especially these days with amount lethal drugs available. Over dose is now the leading cause of death in young people in this country.

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yeah i relapsed 10 years ago and have been thinking about getting clean again without a rock bottom experience again. the problem is i have been clean several times at least 4 or five, and i noticed if you keep getting clean for periods like years at a time you eventually cant get clean or it becomes harder to get clean again over and over again, its like most people only get a certain amount of tries at it, like people i have known that had a decade clean and a decade later they still cant get clean. so it appears you only get a limited bite of the cherry, maybe i have reached my limit and getting clean might be near impossible for me again, i may have reached my limit. well there is only one thing to do and that is wait until i am ready to totally commit to it, i know that half measures meet with failure and if you keep making half committed attempts at getting clean your addiction will bring you back and it only becomes more powerful, there is no other way than to start off with a complete and total commitment to getting clean only that will carry you through the tricks and traps addiction plays on your mind, weakness will bring you to a relapse perhaps out of the blue. well i have been considering it for a few weeks now, i may not be in total out of control addiction right now, but i better not be deluded and not think because i am not using every day of the week that escaping my addiction will be a walk in the park this time, when i decide to quit and stop using my addiction will emerge with full force to get me back into the using pattern again, you often cant see your addiction until you try to control it and suddenly practicing abstinence will bring out ones addiction in full force to remedy this folly of total abstinence and it will play tricks and inflict mental torment on you and disturb your mind to force you to seek relief in a drugs again, just walking away from a strong addiction is a pipe dream, ones addiction will fight this folly of a serious commitment to total abstinence, and commit all sorts of discomfort and torment on the escapee from addiction ???

I'm in NA and just got my 6 months key tag a week ago... I was so happy and proud with myself. I literally just found out an hour ago my 6 months clean time was all for nothing. My sponsor found out through my sponsee brother telling him I was on methadone. I honestly never thought it was a detail that needed to be shared as it's a prescribed med that helps me. Well my sponsor told me if I'm on methadone I'm not considered clean and basically said all those 6 months are gone and I'm back to zero until I get off methadone, not exactly his words but that how my brain registered it. I'm devastated and can't stop crying. In fact I'm baffled how I was not aware. Is it in the literature somewhere and I just simply missed it? Please help me, in fact if I'm told I've missed it somewhere I'd have an easier time coping with this. Let me make it clear, methadone does not make me high. I don't nod off, it allows me to remain contious, awake and sharp. Why isn't smoking cigarettes considered substance abuse? Why is that tolerated? Methadone does not make high, in fact it allows me to go to meetings and be involved with my homegroup. Shouldn't my sponsor of asked me in the beginning if I was on methadone since he's aware of the rules and I wasnt? Who would of thought that I could lose my clean time by doing something wrong without knowing. I thought there was only one way to lose it and that's by relapsing. And to be honest it seems like a good option right now. Why would it even matter, my clean time is zero anyways.

I’m currently planning to go to my first NA meeting, and telling my family I’m hiding a addiction, this is very informative to make make me less nervous thank you

Alcohol is a very different type of drug.Most people drink it safely.Many Alcoholic's have also suffered from more than alcohol.Trying to control what people say is commie shit.I'm 61 years old and I can remember assholes in AA shouting us down because we ID'd as an addict and an alcoholic.Now AA is more tolerant of it.I can remember when the purists came into NA.I liken them to the same assholes that we had to deal with in AA.Jimmy Kinnon ID'd as an addict and an alcoholic.I'm with Jimmy

I'm all for LSD in recovery!!!!

My comment didn't post I wonder why?

As someone with autism and addiction I really don't want to be hugged, I struggle enough with normal social interactions, so an NA meeting seems like an impossible task for me and even more so now I think someone is going to attempt to make physical contact with me on my way in 😕

Where can i go to detox and not haveta deal with aa and na

Personally, I do not carry any guilt about using cannabis and being in AA recovery. My recovery is real, and I am grateful. I do not attend NA. I had issues over 30 years ago. I got clean on the Uncle Sam plan. Can't score coke in basic training. Now I do not touch any drugs except THC. No shrooms, no X, no Thai stick, no Kratom, no pain meds, to be honest I really don't take any meds. They freak me out. I have been iron clad on this since cleaning up in the 90s. Unfortunately I was under the mistaken impression that alcohol was not drugs. Whoops! 34 years of drinking, and I am finally and gratefully free. It was horrible, and I didn't know it. I actually thought it was cool. Now I'm an old man trying to salvage the years I have left. I never bring my opinions or the fact that I have this crutch into the rooms or shares. It could bring controversy, and threaten other addicts recovery. The recovery world pushes everyone towards a one size fits all total sobriety lifestyle. It's just not for me. I like my sticky icky. I like to have a little harmless fun. When I drank, it was not harmless. My ideas and decisions were immature and reckless. When I'm stoned I like to watch documentaries or clean the house or play with my dogs, all that stuff I would normally do. I just get to do it stoned, which is awesome for me. This might not work for everyone, which is why I keep it out the rooms, but you asked. My hope here is that I do not do damage to anyone reading this, but we all know that you can't blame relapse on others. I agree with everything you said, but I carry no guilt about how others may want to assess my recovery.

This answers my question as to why there were so few young(er) people in my meetings. I see now how, in my youthful arrogance, I could have come to the same conclusions had I come into N/A early on in my addiction. I hope she found another way to get through whatever she was dealing with (I'd love to see that young lady make an update). To speak to the "junkies don't care what they're taking". She's almost correct, but it's because a "junkie '' is not only an addict. Not only are "junkies" addicts, they are addicts who we look down upon, but just like us, they too had the thought, "Oh, I'd never." What I and the girl in the video didn't see is that, sadly, addiction has and will take precedence over all morals, promising eventually anything you hold dear. My hope is she was fortunate enough to recognize this before she lost anything irreplaceable. It's amazing to see this now. Thank you for the video.

AA is not started by a religions cilt. 2 alcholics meet ans started to share, Guidlines, steeps and tratitions were made. It has saved millions of lifes. NA as well. Why put it out as negativ. The women making this, vidio should know better.

If N/A is not inclusive of only someone who is a drug addict. Why wouldn't they call it Addiction Anamolous?

It's they close now

Narcotics Anonymous is a cult

Jexi just a stepper 😂

I expect a bunch of CULT members of Narcotics Anonymous

Tell you what, your so right, didn’t know where he got the higher ground or high horse after that lass stuck by him and know doubt brought them kids up when he was in his darkest days, I like the lad and he’s done brilliant but he has to pass on what he’s learnt and his experiences!!! That’s his only vid that made me cringe and I also had to comment about this weeks ago!!!

Its not a fuckin disease

Alcohol is a drug. Sober and clean are the sane thing . Addiction is addiction ....why even sperare alcohol when urs a harder drug than coke

If it walks like a cult and talks like a cult .. its a fuckin cult

We really like your attitude Jex, we are looking for folks to share their ESH on our upcoming podcast in April. Reach out if this sounds like something youd like to do! Great video! I admit I got my feathers ruffled at first too lol but you make the greatest point of all... catch more bees with honey then... whatever that saying is! Blessings to you.