no this is the theory i’ve been preaching for so long. like even changing the world for the better is selfish no matter the positive outcome for others it’s always gonna be selfish yk
I think there are selfless good deed The point they are arguing is it makes you happy so it is selfish I think it depends If you are doing a good deed because you want to feel good , then it is selfish But if you do Sth good without thinking , you don’t have any thought by that time , and the good deed makes you think good , it is not selfish Just like Phoebe give birth to his brother’s kids . She didn’t want to feel good to do that , she just want to help , but it her feels good I think it is different
I don't know man. Doing something good, just for the sake of it is selfless. If it makes you happy, doesn't make it selfish. Phoebe having the babies for her brother was selfless.
The thing about altruism (the thing Joey is arguing against) is that functionally it can't be fully satisfied in a pro-social species. "Doing good without feeling anything" is an impossible concept for Human's to fulfill because our species has evolved to experience pleasure from certain behaviors. That said, it's also counter-intuitive to conclude that just because something *feels good* that it is therefore tainted. Selfishness isn't a necessarily negative attribute to have.
Then later in the series, Joey actually did a selfless good deed. Edit: by letting pregnant rachel go as his roommate to move in with ross so they could take care of the baby together even though he loves rachel so much
Not everyone is selfish and not every selfless deed is selfish either. Phoebe didn't give birth to those triplets to make herself feel better, she did it to make her brother and his wife feel better
Probably the funniest thing about all of this is that Pheobe did all of this just to prove Joey wrong so no matter what deed she did it technically would still be selfish, in other words no matter what Pheobe did it would’ve been pointless LOL
I loved this because people always give Phoebe pass for being stupid or mean or unreasonable becuase shes " funny and quirky " but in reality shes inconsistent with her beliefs and she just shits on joey for getting a job as host. Go to hell Phoebe 😂
Selfish= You do it because you want something Selfless= You do it without expecting anything in return. The reasoning is what makes an act selfish or selfless.
Aboslutely false, because every single act a person do is to get in return the feeling of fulfilling their wish. You wish to do "good", therefore you do "good". All action are selfish, because they always concern the "self". Most people just don't understand basic English enough to see this.
I agree with Joey. For once someone put Pheobe in her place. I like her but sometimes she is rude and judges the others thinking that she's very righteous.
You know, that whole "All good deeds are selfish" business makes no sense to me. What's so awful about doing the right thing, and feeling good about it? Now, doing the wrong thing and feeling good about it, - that's completely messed up. ("Hey, I tripped a blind guy on the stairs!") The third "ideal" option, according to the writers, would be to do the right thing, but then feel nothing afterward. Huh? How would you even manage that? As I keep telling those Captcha people, I'm not a robot.
Its very simple there are selfless good deeds but they can only be done so if you take out the psychological and sub-psychological egoism out of the equation.Like what a mother does for her child can be considered as a good deed. But what a woman who can be a mother and instead chooses to adopt can be considered as a selfless good deed. Similarly couples who have children but still choose to adopt also can be considered a selfless good deed.
I like how in their dumb world the conversation continues and branches out in unrelated directions. And how it's simply overlooked that Pheobe is doing what she's doing as a selfish act to prove Joey wrong.. So was the case when Pheobe was explaining to Joey that robots only work for Chandler's company and they don't make them 😄
Even if Phoebe didn't feel good about donating the money it was still selfish. She didn't donate the money out of the kindness of her heart she did it to prove a point and win an argument which is selfish
Smart Joey
no this is the theory i’ve been preaching for so long. like even changing the world for the better is selfish no matter the positive outcome for others it’s always gonna be selfish yk
The true selfless good deed in the show was when Ross walked his ex wife down the aisle to marry her lesbian lover.
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I think there are selfless good deed The point they are arguing is it makes you happy so it is selfish I think it depends If you are doing a good deed because you want to feel good , then it is selfish But if you do Sth good without thinking , you don’t have any thought by that time , and the good deed makes you think good , it is not selfish Just like Phoebe give birth to his brother’s kids . She didn’t want to feel good to do that , she just want to help , but it her feels good I think it is different
I don't know man. Doing something good, just for the sake of it is selfless. If it makes you happy, doesn't make it selfish. Phoebe having the babies for her brother was selfless.
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The only true good deed is the one that the doer is not even aware of.
The only episode where Joey was smart
The thing about altruism (the thing Joey is arguing against) is that functionally it can't be fully satisfied in a pro-social species. "Doing good without feeling anything" is an impossible concept for Human's to fulfill because our species has evolved to experience pleasure from certain behaviors. That said, it's also counter-intuitive to conclude that just because something *feels good* that it is therefore tainted. Selfishness isn't a necessarily negative attribute to have.
Then later in the series, Joey actually did a selfless good deed. Edit: by letting pregnant rachel go as his roommate to move in with ross so they could take care of the baby together even though he loves rachel so much
Joey knows a lot more than he's letting on.
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I don’t see much more good deeds to do that hasn’t been already .
I can't believe people like this cringe ass trash
Phoebe was the best charecter on the show. Then Chandler, then Joey.
i know a selfless good deed telling someone there girlfreind/boyfriend is cheating on them
I appreciate Joey preaching a core tennant of Satanism.
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“and he like force fed me cider and cookies. then i felt wonderful. that old jackass!”☠️☠️
“cuz right after my mom killed herself.. i was just in a really bad place. you know-personally.” 🤣
Chandler's expressions
Not everyone is selfish and not every selfless deed is selfish either. Phoebe didn't give birth to those triplets to make herself feel better, she did it to make her brother and his wife feel better
Probably the funniest thing about all of this is that Pheobe did all of this just to prove Joey wrong so no matter what deed she did it technically would still be selfish, in other words no matter what Pheobe did it would’ve been pointless LOL
Joey proving is not an idiot. Sometimes.
Are you calling you "people"?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I loved this because people always give Phoebe pass for being stupid or mean or unreasonable becuase shes " funny and quirky " but in reality shes inconsistent with her beliefs and she just shits on joey for getting a job as host. Go to hell Phoebe 😂
Selfish= You do it because you want something Selfless= You do it without expecting anything in return. The reasoning is what makes an act selfish or selfless.
Aboslutely false, because every single act a person do is to get in return the feeling of fulfilling their wish. You wish to do "good", therefore you do "good". All action are selfish, because they always concern the "self". Most people just don't understand basic English enough to see this.
@@markarmage3776 That's an... interesting perspective.
Chander is like “why do i always get stuck between these two?”
Her reaction when Joey tells her that the bee 🐝 died after it stung her! Priceless!
I agree with Joey. For once someone put Pheobe in her place. I like her but sometimes she is rude and judges the others thinking that she's very righteous.
I actually really like this argument and storyline! 😂
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You know, that whole "All good deeds are selfish" business makes no sense to me. What's so awful about doing the right thing, and feeling good about it? Now, doing the wrong thing and feeling good about it, - that's completely messed up. ("Hey, I tripped a blind guy on the stairs!") The third "ideal" option, according to the writers, would be to do the right thing, but then feel nothing afterward. Huh? How would you even manage that? As I keep telling those Captcha people, I'm not a robot.
But there's an actual selfless good deed, which is the three men who dive into chernobyl to stop more nuclear explosion. So Joey is wrong! 🤜
@@Kokobeluck7 I totally agree.
1:52... Chandler's face and expressions...who would not love them😍😂
Its very simple there are selfless good deeds but they can only be done so if you take out the psychological and sub-psychological egoism out of the equation.Like what a mother does for her child can be considered as a good deed. But what a woman who can be a mother and instead chooses to adopt can be considered as a selfless good deed. Similarly couples who have children but still choose to adopt also can be considered a selfless good deed.
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What does it mean in the starting: Vomit tux of Joey, can anyone explain?🤔
Phoebe giving up the triplets even though it hurted her so much was a selfless good deed.
I like how in their dumb world the conversation continues and branches out in unrelated directions. And how it's simply overlooked that Pheobe is doing what she's doing as a selfish act to prove Joey wrong.. So was the case when Pheobe was explaining to Joey that robots only work for Chandler's company and they don't make them 😄
You evil genius😂
Pheobe cant win here, she is doing good deeds for her own benifot
Phoebe’s playing checkers meanwhile Joey’s over here playing chess!
This is just brilliant
A meme was born here 2:19
Selfish atruism is still atruism.
Even if Phoebe didn't feel good about donating the money it was still selfish. She didn't donate the money out of the kindness of her heart she did it to prove a point and win an argument which is selfish
I didn't even know bees could die after stinging people until I saw this
Chandlers face expressions lol 😂
I'm gonna beat you evil genius 😆😆😆