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Good idea. Olives oil or other vegetable oil would probably help. Have to be careful not to get it on your hands. Any residue will probably burn off.

Thanks. She's the best.

Good catch! There are a lot of burners with 12 or more jets. I've done 12 but found that 8 or 10 are best. That gives my burners a good efficiency. I actually hit on 8 because I covered 4 of 12 on a whim. Keep in mind that I use sqirt cheese cans. They are smaller diameter than standard beer cans.

You said an .0135 hole was used and you're thinking of .0125 size hole, I like how you DIY, I'm looking at perforated stainless for a multipurpose windscreen and pot stand over an Altoid perlite tin. I'm having fun, this is all new, Best

Interesting! When you finish it, please send a pic to tomlovesdiy@protonmail.com. And yes, it's very fun. Thanks.

Appreciate the thought but there's too much "prior art". Thanks for watching and commenting.

Great question. Technically it is a penny stove because, as you saw the center fill hole is covered be a metal disc. It doesn't have to be covered. I do to better manage the burn rate. Uncovered it will tend to be faster. I designed it to be optimized for fuel heat transfer with the "penny" on the hole. I haven't tested with it uncovered. Guess I'm not done. Thanks for asking.

Good catch. I've made a couple other videos about the burners. Usually mention or show the can. This is a Walmart Cheese Wow. Also used Easy Cheese. I will add a note in the description. Thanks!

Also, I'm curious how this performs in cooler weather. Does it take longer to "bloom" with increased volume that needs to be heated to pressurize? That could be an interesting test

Strange. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll fix it.

Back from vacation and fixed it. Thanks again.

I haven't tested in cold weather. From what I've seen on TH-cam, colder temps don't have much effect on alcohol burners. Might need a couple ml's more priming fuel. Could be a challenge to get valid results; lots of factors. I don't hike when tremp is going below 35F. But I will definitely try it later this year. Oh... and when I used a liquid fuel Optimus stove it burned great in 20F.

Too kind. But I'll take it. Thanks.

Thanks! I'm a little surprised at how it burned. I've enlarged the jets from 1.25 to 1.35mm. Doesn't seem like much but small mods tend to make significant changes to performance on these burners. l hope to test and post updated results In a few days. Check back. Cheers.

Well done. Tennis balls have been used like this for years. But where I tend to camp, the ground is often very mushy. So I looked for something else that would spread my weight over a big area. Being a DIY guy, making something is 90% of the fun. Thanks for commenting.

That's great. Makes me happy that you made them and they worked. After one glued "foot" came apart on a recent hike, I stitch them too. Thanks for watching and sharing your comment.

I get that. But with the "legs" pushed in the ground (3-4 cm) it's actually very stable with the Petrel pot. Less so with the 900ml titanium pot in the video. Also less stable in very light soil. Still better than some other versions. Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers.

I bought the stainless steel rods but I love using old bike spokes! Excuse my American POV... "soak it in meths"? How long does it burn? Can it boil 2-3 cups water from 18C? thanks for commenting.

@@tomlovesdiy from what I gather it's about the same as a hexamine tablet the same size as the lump of firebrick, I think it's a few hours to soak in, so storing it in a plastic tub with a big lid, let's say 2" cylindrical maybe 3" high with an air tight lid and submerged in meths - just ball park, and that phrase works over here even though we don't play ball Fish it out to use it, drop it back in

I've got to try this. Thanks

A lot of people like the Triangia. Certainly a well made burner. And I particularly like the screw on top. The triangle pot stand is cool, too. I might make something similar for my squirt cheese can burners. My stoves out perform the Triangia in several metrics; weight, size, cost, time to boil, total burn time, and efficiency. For example, my latest version boils 2 cups 65F water in 4:30 and burns for 9 minutes on 1 ounce of denatured alcohol. The stand, priming pan and aluminum foil windscreen total weight is 2.5 ounces. Costs is $3 and a bit of time. All that said, DIY isn't for everyone. And even though I really love to design and make things, there are several gear items I buy rather than make. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Hey. It took me a few years... and several other designs. Without the Firemaple Petrel pot I'd still be using an old one. Thanks for watching and commenting.

I use a lightweight non-slip rug pad. Online for under $10. There are a couple different types. All are rubbery mesh. I've seen vids of people putting small spots of seal sealer on their pad's ridges. Another thing I haven't done but considered is adding a couple of straps like those used on quilts. More work... sewing and all. But you won't forget to pack it. Thanks for watching and your question. Tom

@@tomlovesdiy I'll try the non-slip rug pad or shelf liner idea on top of the pad, thanks!

I tried shelf liner. Didn't work for me.

It was a fun build. The 15g small wooden version would save you an almost entire ounce! On your way to ultra-light. ;-)

but anyways, came here to say that you are doing amazing videos and have a great sense of humour!

First, I love it that TH-cam gives people thousands of km from me access to my videos. And I really enjoy getting comments from them. Nothing like Spar near me - USA North Carolina. Mostly plastic knives, spoons and forks. A subscriber suggested I check an Asian market. Nothing. So, being a DIY guy, I have made wooden spoons. Working on a video. Thanks for viewing and commenting.

Very kind of you. I also made one out of aluminum. With help from a 3,000 pound CNC machine. Working on a video...

While pop rivets only add a few grams and are really easy, I think that a spot welder would work nicely. Wish I had one and knew how to use it. I think I'll do a little research. thanks

Good question. The first one I made was only glued. Under stress at a campsite the bond failed. So I stitched them. I think it's not necessary if it's stitched with some overlap and a good quality polyester thread. Together glue and stitching is 100% secure. Thanks for watching and commenting. Tom

Thanks! I like to "upcycle" what would be trash.

Haven't made one but have seen a few TH-cam videos. I like the simplicity; no stand required. When I worked on my stove, my goal was to reach theoretical optimal efficiency, make it super rugged, small, light and easy to use. I believe I achieved the goals. I calculate efficience at about net 50%. Most of the stoves/burners are around 30% based on boile and burn times shown in the tests. I bought some carbon felt - yes its pricey. Might try incorporating it into a cheese can stove. Thanks for the comment!

Agree. I see the gap issue in every quilt review I see except for the really expensive Zen Bivy. Will be using an REI Magna 30 this weekend. First time. My design adds about 3 ounces with fabric, Climashield, and velcro. Seems there are now a lot of people advocating for quilts and claiming they are superior to bags. That's why I tested. I think the 3F warmer my back was in the bag version is worth the weight. Also, think the Climashield resists compression much better than down. At least it "bounces back" and lofts up again as soon as weight is removed. I'm thinking of making one, last bag... Using a packable down throw gets me 700FP down and sewn through baffles. I'm going to get some 800-850 FP down, make it with vertical baffles, and use Climashield for the bottom and footbox. Thinking of making the bottom layer removeable. Same for a hood. Think I can get it down to 18-24 ounces and be good between 30F and 50F. Long reply to a brief comment! Thanks for watching.

REI Magma 30 should be renamed the Maybe 40. Had to put on all my clothes to be warm at 34F.

Aluminum. Very thin flashing. Easy to work and lightweight. But not very durable - bends easily.

The "arms" that the pot rests on are stainless steel. Another video shows added pop rivets. Check it out.

I really wanted to like it. But why didn't I like it? So many reasons... As my hiking buddy Neighbor Dave said, it's just a large bivy. It ws very small inside. I'm onlyu 5'8' (1.27m) on a good day. The only way I could sit up was to have my back to the door. Had to practically crawl on my belly through the tiny door. It was difficult to get a good, tight pitch. It packs bigger than it should (Dynema). Very narrow at the foot end. I've decided that 26 square feet (2.4 sq meters) is the minimum useable floor space I can live in on trail. I guess I'm just not a "minimalist gram weanie" willing to give up comfort to save 8 ounces. Thanks for asking. Love to hear from viewers.

Thanks for telling me! It's one of my favorite ideas. Love to see your version. Send me a pic at tomlovesdiy@protonmail.com.

Great find! I'll check out my local mart. Being a DIY guy and having a friend with a giant CNC machine, I've made made some. Upcoming video. Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers

Checked the local asian market. No joy.

Thanks! Really appreciate that.

Thanks for comment. Before you make one see the update video with pop rivets. Cheers.

You're welcome. Thanks for watching and commenting.

I found it's useful, cheap $ and easy-to-use. Gave one to my friend and hiking buddy Neighbor Dave. We used them on a cool night to dial in our sleep setups. Thanks for commenting and subscribing.

I've been trying to find some info on this exact Govee model about the battery. I know it's a lithium battery but can't find anywhere if the unit is rechargeable and if it is what type of charge port?

No charging port. Uses a big coin cell that you can replace. Mine has been in use for 10 months. Still working on original battery. BTW, Amazon has it on sale (today). I recommend it. Thanks for watching.

I so appreciate your comment. Please do let me know how it comes out. You can email me and send pics/vids! Thanks for watching. tomlovesdiy@protonmail.com

I really appreciate your comment. Please do let me know how it comes out. You can email me and send pics/vids! Thanks. tomlovesdiy@protonmail.com

My 20 year old Craftsman drill has them. I don't know why they stopped and other manufacturers never did include. Hope you are right. It's so useful. Check out my DIY drill powered disc sander video. Thanks for watching and commenting.

We had an offbrand drill that had a level gauge built in on the top. Everytime it kept my horizontal drilling straight. Always thought it was genius. This was a 10+ yr old drill. It's kinda strange that newer branded drills still don't have this and was still in the realm of DIY feature.

The windscreen can fit inside when disassembled but the pot lid can't fit on. It's taller than my pots. The bottom of the pot should be about 1.25 inch above the top of the stove to get the most efficient heat transfer. That determines the height of the windscreen. An alternative (simpler) design would be to make the windscreen diameter smaller and set the pot on top of it. The windscreen would be shorter. Depending on the pot it might fit inside. Thanks for watching.

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers

Chris. Good question. Yes. Alcohol goes on the center hole. A coin works. Also one of those round punch-outs in metal electrical boxes. Put in the alcohol then cover before I ignite the primer fuel. I epoxy a small neodymium magnet to the bottom. It holds the punch-out securely. If the center hole isn't covered, you get a slightly faster boil time but less total burn time. Thanks for your comment and substituting.

Thanks!@@tomlovesdiy

Thanks. Appreciate your comment.

Yes, made of aluminum flashing it's very lightweight. There is always a tradeoff - weight VS strength. Unless you use titanium! Don't have any in my garage. I'm going to post an update; adding pop rivets to secure the pot stand tabs. Concerned that theJB Weld can fail over time because of the high heat. Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers.

If you want the windscreen template, send me an email - tomlovesdiy@protonmail.com.

I agree. You are the only person who has caught that. JB is only good to 500F. Alcohol burns at 2x+ that temp. I'm going to add pop rivets and do an updated video. Thanks for commenting and watching.

Update video is posted.

True. Back legs tend to sink more easily. Not sure how to make it stay on and if the weight would be spread out enough on one (smaller) strap. The X strap is under tension to all four corners. Have to think about it. I like the velcro idea. Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers.

Thanks, you too!

No. I draw the line at hammering with pliers. The slots and tabs work well and didn't harm my chisel. Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers

Very kind. Merci