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As an italian i am offended by the way you pronounced it. Edit: Okay the way you cooked before the basta was fine, but then it became truly terrific! hvdgebjdbhn BOIL THE PASTA SEPARATLY AND THEN 2-3 MINS BEFORE THE AL DENTE CONSISTENY YOU MIX IT UP WITH THE SAUSE. ADD PASTA TO BOILING WATER WITH SALT BGHJENUGYBFHJN. The vid and analysis are truly amazing tho

when you just start making spaghetti i just about died. amazing analysis btw

good ending!

i like this video

never thought i would see an utena shitpost like this in 2024

This is how Nanami feels when she gets trolled

Thank you so much for your video. You made me realise new things about Touga!

Lmfao happy april fools day

mind = BLOWN

this was absolutely incredible! very fascinating to hear it from the horse's mouth (or as close as we'll get because Ikuni is never straightforward lol). Thank you for translating, I would absolutely watch more!!

rgu is so under appreciated, seeing new commentators on it makes my heart flutter!! please keep doing what you do🫶

Thank you for covering Touga, as much as i agree he was being a piece of shit, it was also self sacrificial if we view it through idealists lenses. Even worse so if both universes (movie and anime) he goes through same sht. He truly is side character with main character traits.

Thank you for uploading and translating this. Utena is my favourite anime of all time and this was extremely insightful!

I really enjoy how chill your content is - thx for the recipe and great character analysis :) will stay tuned

I fully agree with everything you said here. I love when people think critically about Touga rather than hating him for the surface-level stuff. Thank you for the video! I hope the spaghetti was delicious.

Man I need to watch Penguindrum again. But read Night on the Galactic Railroad first. Always nice to see fictional places that were in fact real!

This is really interesting, wish this got more traction

y'know, I came here expecting some deep symbolic analysis of Touga, and found instead the somber personality examination of him to tug on my heartstrings... and then the cooking segment was a hard swerve! Very good stuff, I loved this.

I also think it's interesting how Nanami actually reaches Revolution. She decides the cows are much happier than humans, so she stays a cow. And, well, she's not wrong.🌹❤️💛⭐🌟✨

I love your explanation and deep dive into Touga's character. I'm glad that I've found your channel since Utena content is pretty scarce. Thank you!

really interesting video, thanks for the translation

Were your number of views P<0.05 ?

Something I can't shrug off upon rewatching the show is that... in most Nanami episodes she is being set up by Anthy and knowing what we know about Anthy by the end of the show it feels like she is just being tortured by this vengeful witch who despise her probably for her naive crush on her brother. I think Akio was blindsided by Nanami's discovery but Anthy probably wanted it to happen either for Nanami to see what it would be like if her crush led to something real or to rub it in her face in some misguided weird way. Anthy is quite messed up and definitely has some strong feelings towards Nanami my interpretation would be that she thinks she despises her while relating to her as this innocent girl who can still be saved, unlike herself. On first viewing Nanami is bullying Anthy but on reviewing it feels reversed.

Quite insightful he's certainly one of the most complex characters in the show! I feel his manga portrayal as a full-on good guy by the end did shine through his characterization in both the movie and anime! The boy drowning motif was associated with Ruka in the anime I think and in the manga it fully replaced Utena backstory with the boy saving Utena from drowning either being Dios or a mysterious boy who drowned but it is more implied than anything else. It does relate to Touga trying and failing to help Utena in the coffin in the anime. It was an actual gut punch seeing Touga being cast as this character in the movie it really shined a new light on what he is supposed to represent, he really jumps from archetype to archetype depending on the source material you take and it feels like you can only get a full picture of this character by going through everything. I actually dyed up my hair like his manga counterpart which is his most unambiguous positive portrayal. Also thanks for the recipes!

Another thing is how at the end of the black rose duels, they forget about what happened leading up to the duel. In fact, at the end of the complete saga, even Utena seems unaware of all that transpired. Like a reboot after a reboot of the same story. We're back at square one for the final arc.

That was super interesting, thank you for sharing your thoughts ! Utena is an anime that weirdly enough, I enjoy taking apart almost more than I enjoyed watching. I hated Touga on my first watch, but now I feel like I'm starting to understand the character better. It's crazy to find out how every character is a victim of Akio's system in the end.

Your take on the scene with Shiori in the film is really interesting, ill have to think on it. I've previously thought of it as her being another predatory figure, like Touga's adoptive father. One think i like about Touga's role in the series is that he's (from the outside) perfectly living up to the Prince ideal, and yet he's still unhappy and unfulfilled. Ive always liked that RGU's feminist perspective is that we all suffer from regressive gender roles, even people that live up to the masculine ideal

OHHHH MY GOD thank you so much for uploading and translating this

The pasta recipe was an unexpected twist! It sounds delicious!

Some anime fans, myself included, have noted that Touga's character design is just a recoloured version of Allen Schezar from Vision of Escaflowne, which debuted 1-2 years before Utena. Do you think Touga is a parody of Allen Schezar?

Amaziinnnggg video! Loved how in depht you went into analyzing Tougas character. I think his manga counterpart only adds to his character, what with him practically being a tritagonist by the end of the manga. Another character I'd love to see covered would be Chigusa. She's one of my favorite Utena characters, but barely anyone talks about her since she's relegated to the game. Her identifying outside the princess/witch dichotomy is so interesting. In a way , she's Juri, Mikage and Touga all wrapped up into one deliciously conplex package.

Great video

In my opinion Touga was dead the whole time the whole series, when he drowned in that princely manner Akio recruited him, offered him living like a living corpse in his world and try to be prince. Once Akio is dead, the power which kept Touga alive is gone, but also in a parallel way Touga is also ready to let go, move on, not be a prince. It’s funny how much of a prince narrative there is in the series, not so much in the movie. I see the movie as a continuation of the series. Looking forward to learning how you understand the movie. This was very interesting, thank you

I think all the characters are incredibly three dimensional and deep, but Touga is definitely one of my favourites in the sense of that I find him so interesting and makes me think so much.

So excited for this video! Thank you for taking the time to do it. ❤

Thank you so much for an explanation about the Shiori moth scene, first of all. I used to tell people that i thought it was about people like Shiori enabling that kind of abuse by willful ignorance, but i like your idea that Touga's abuse runs so deep that it's stronger than the reality he experiences better. I honestly think the series does a shit job at characteristizing Touga (i often tell people that it feels like Ikuhara forgot he was making a teenage romance story with Utena and Touga after the first arc, and then hurriedly tied that up when he remembered near the end of the show), but the movie did so much for him. I like your idea about Touga wishing for self-sacrifice in the service of something that would make his death "worth it," because i think that's a common depression fantasy for a lot of emotionally repressed males. Thanks again for the video, you always do great work and i enjoyed thinking about your ideas. Until next time :) EDIT: Also! If youre taking suggestions, i love Ruka's character and would love your take on him and Juri. I see him as a lens focused on Utena's character, maybe like a vision of what Utena could have been for Anthy.

It's so annoying that people will baby and apologize on behalf of characters like shiori but flatten and shit on characters like touga tbh it's a big problemo in the utena fandom

Strange that I never gave Touga much thought, guess i was too bogged down trying to figure out Anthy - does she symbolise Women as a whole as say the biblical Eve does? And Akio is Adam (Kadmos)? Anyway good video, got me thinking, Touga really did his share of evil deeds on the show, but we do see him try something different over time. I still hated Nanami more, plainly for displaying such gleeful bourgeois supremacy (I'm basically a peasant), but they are all very wrong and evil at one point or another, most of all Anthy. But if they all had a repentence and forgiveness arc like Zuko in Avatar, no number of episodes would have been enough.

A gem!!!

Yesss I love Touga! I heard somewhere (maybe someone was referencing the manga?) that Touga grew his hair long to make himself more attractive to his predatory stepdad, thus protecting Nanami. That may be him jumping into the river to save the drowning girl, him becoming traumatised and thus ‚like a ghost‘ himself. I wonder if sleeping with Akio is him trying to do that for Utena.

Hey welcome back! I love your Utena breakdowns. It's crazy how over 2 decades after the original show aired we can still have ongoing meaningful discussions about it. Thanks for your analysis. It's very well-constructed and goes nicely with the prior ones. I hope we get to see more!

you're back! was already happy to see you'd uploaded a new video, but doubly so when i realised it was about touga. he's one of my personal favourites from the series and i really think you did him justice in this video. his essence was certainly captured. loved the outro to this one as well, and i'm very excited for whatever you next upload whenever that might be (movie analysis has me especially intrigued after you touched on it briefly!). thanks for another great video :)

never had a first, so im firsting this adding this to my watch later! i'll comment again when i finish. thank you for your service!

so that's the meaning of be papas

tsym for uploading this!! Would love more utena stuff i've never been able to see before due to not having been translated