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My Raiden c2 in sneznaya enemies 1mil HP slow kill and dies one sec

@@ghp2303 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@@spaceofgames3489 much appreciated, thank you!

Their rerun schedule doesn't make any sense. Hopefully we get 3 banners rotation soon, it's been 4 years Genshin, time to evolve a bit 😐

@@vlday for real, they got a serious problem with reruns. And the chronicled banner...they need to fix the requirements for that banner and run it again (Shenhe can't even qualify for it smh)

I hope you won't mind if I copy pasta an answer I had regarding this question : "For the weapon, I didn't find engulfing that special, especially if you play her with Bennet. I think I got it because I was trying to get Ayato weapon (lol). The incoming weapon banner is even worse for Raiden mains if you are not considering getting kinich, because if you lose ur 37.5% and end up getting the claymore, it's not the most flexible weapon to have & doesn't go super well on other characters." Pros : It looks good on her & can go well with other characters like Xiangling / Rosaria etc. It also works well in non-bennet teams. Cons : Weapon banner is not great if you don't want kinich & engulfing isn't that impressive in bennet teams. Personally the cons outweight the pros , but that's just my opinion :D !

@@vlday i didnt even consider the fact tht id have a 37% chance lmao, i guess ill wait until a future rerun with a weapon tht'll have value for my acc. ty for the answer

@@OrewaACE406 hahaha

Exactly, I used to check the rank on the rational team (I have a 50CV ER sands hehe ... not flexing, not flexing ... :d) but since I don't play her that much in rational anymore, I prefer seeing how far I can get her with the team I actually play a lot now (double hydro/taser), and indeed the build changes a lot 👍

@@trash0175 remember, top 7% is already very good. Trying to get better rank is just for fun, it's not needed at all. Good job on ur Raiden build 👍

damn that's a very nice Raiden ! I wish u good luck getting Engulfing & even better luck to get that top 1% 🤞

Top 3.6k? Congrats, that 5.0 strongbox coming in clutch 👍

@@vlday top 3.6 %. My bad

yeah, you can create some loopHoles for getting in top ranking in some specific team nische likewise how he did by building his Raiden as main Carry in Double Hydro, very less people having Raiden build her in this specific nische, The difference - With no Bennet in the team you should prioritize focus on her Atk more than her ER, as ER gives Dmg Bonus which Furina cuts short and ER becomes less relevant, Thus building becomes more easy as compared to her HyperCarry one Raiden x Benny x Sara x Kazuha/Chevy

Other elements might affect ur ranking like the atk level or the weapon used. For example, since jade wingspear isn't in the weapon leaderboards, the crti rate it provides won't be taken into account (the website will only look at your artifact strength).

I have 72/151 with 265 er and C3 r5 catch but still 2% what do you expect bro🙂

@@vlday yeah it's too much hastle to min max every stay, I'll pick Better crit ratio than better Akasha rank

@@vijaysinghr988 that's the spirit, akasha is there just for fun 👍

@@vulkriisil3393 We dont consider 40 crit rate and 200cdmg and nuke setup things in Top1% , 80/160 ratio and having all useful sub stats like atk% , ER for Ei specifically ,Calling Im stronger is a wrong take in rankings...

@@ShineiNouzen7 Yep, but in fact, i clear everything faster than them ... That's why we don't understand how THIS ""top"" work. Maybe it don't consider all the aspects of the game what would be weird and biaised, like team comp or constel/raffinement(i have the usuful substats tough).

@@vulkriisil3393 Akasha doesn't take into account constellations, it only compares builds based on artifact strength.

@@vlday Ho okay, it change alot of things then.

@@ShineiNouzen7 she is very popular indeed... Congrats though, that crit ratio is impressive 👍

Very nice 👍

@@vlday I will pull engulfing and c3 this time

@@Kazuya_247 good luck 🤞

My 80/151/261er C2

Personally, I would rather have 75% crit rate rather than 200 crit dmg on Raiden. For the weapon, I didn't find engulfing that special, especially if you play her with Bennet. I think I got it because I was trying to get Ayato weapon (lol). The incoming weapon banner is even worse for Raiden mains if you are not considering getting kinich, because if you lose ur 37.5% and end up getting the claymore, it's not the most flexible weapon to have & doesn't go super well on other characters. So personally I would stay away, c2 raiden with catch is already excellent ! But that's just my opinion :D !

Congrats ! being in the top 1% when the leaderboard has 800k builds is insane ! I spent almost two years in that domain and somehow none of my emblem holders are in the top 1% on akasha (except for yelan) 😭

@@vlday Thanks! Dam my Yelan's top 9% (I can't get a good sands/goblet on-set 😭)

it's not mostly luck it's literally all luck

@@byzdi Well I dedicated a lot of time into that domain, I sometimes even farm it nowadays so it's different to say it's luck when you've farmed for like 1 week and different for 2 months.

Can u share ur ur stats, cr/cd, atk, er

Unfortunately no Kaeya leaderboard 🙁

Jean is going to do the same job as Xianyun (lower hydro res, team wide healing to get fanfare stacks) minus the big chunk of damage added to Xiao's plunges. So in this case, especially if you have Faruzan C6, it's better to play Bennet or even Charlotte with TTDS to help with boosting the attack of Xiao.

@@vlday thank you!

congrats !

Im sorry !!!!! 😭

@@vlday haha it's okay, I was lucky to get Navia on her initial banner in just 40 rolls. So I guess this is karma! I can't always expect to be lucky. Also nice testing on the weapons, but yeah stacks on the melusine weapon makes a big difference.

Yeah, the mode excludes a ton of players depending on their playstyles, their character selection (in the case of your challenge account, only catalyst) or their preferences, and that's why it's a failed endgame gameplay loop. There was a lot of good ideas in the comment section, like buffing certain elements & nerfing others in terms of damage output, or like u are suggesting, give us access to all characters but limit the max at 18. Hopefully they heard the feedback of the playerbase & they will adjust that in the future 👍

@@vlday i actually didn't do survey in game. So they don't know about my feedback, because i doubt they read that stuff at all. Why do i think so? Because since the very beginning of 1.0 i was asking for two specific things: skip button and billets exchange. First one is self-explanatory i assume, bit second one is smth not many people even talk about. From the 1.0 what i wanted the most is the option to exchange one billet type to another: like changing catalyst billet to the claymore, or sword to the bow, etc. And each patch i was asking for it for the first two years. So when they did introduce billet exchange it was simply one region billet to another. And you can't even imagine my disappointment at that time. That's why i gave up on surveys as a whole, it's just the waste of time. Also after starting my challenge account i noticed how many things in this game restricts you and forces you to use specific characters. I know they need to "sell" the said character, but holy shit do i really need to use only that character? I can understand some "challenges" like infamous archer challenge in Inazuma (which took me 8 hours to complete without using bow), but i literally don't understand why they write the story in a way where the game forces you to use 1 specific character and provides no option to use your team + that character. Like why the hell did i roasted those samurais for 4 hours with torches in Kazuha's quest? Why the heck i have to use only Raiden in her story quest? And for love of god, why the heck they patched the option to drown your enemies in water? (i had to take L in Itto's and Kazuha's quests because of it) Just why? And in some quests everything is fine and you can use your characters even if the main character of the story told you to step aside (Gaming's event quest, Zhongli's second quest, Ganyu's quest, etc). I will never forget how i rage quitted in the last lantern rite where the game forced me to use only Yelan and i spent two hours trying to keep aggro on hillichurls with the torches so they could burn the grass (on limited area btw) and i could slowly roast that treasure hoarder who clearly had more hp than he should. I also almost whent out of the grass i can burn because of it. My point is - those limitations were always there, and what's more boggling my mind is that the more game exists the more limitations there're. They fix stupid bugs no one asked to fix (like the ability to drown enemies, nowadays they just stuck at the edge of water and don't follow you), and don't do anything to fix what really needs to be fixed! I do like Genshin, but i'm really disappointed by it.

@@atomicgrave4340 I hear your frustration, I really do. I used to fill those surveys everytime but stopped doing it also because of how tone deaf the company was to our complaints. With that being said, now that there's competition, ALL OF A SUDDEN they are talking about the shortcommings in their newest game mode & acknowledging the issues it has. Crazy huh ? So yeah don't get super high expectations, it's a gacha company at the end of the day, BUT there's a little bit of hope now that they are a bit more stressed about their market shares 😁

There''s legit 0 incentive to go for the buffs Vs. going for characters ... definitely feels like it wasn't properly tested indeed ...

I agree that spiral abyss is way better, at least for me ! I enjoy that kind of end game way more because you can play virtually any character you want AND it's challenging. They already addressed the criticism that the theater got, hopefully they can improve the experience in the future 👍

It's punishing certain playstyles for no real reason, and that's why it has a lot of issues from a game design perspective. Hopefully it will be fixed in the next iterations 👍

@@vlday I agree. I also hope it gets fixed. I only managed to beat normal because they gave me Alhaitham to use. And I honestly wanted to start building Pyro when I get Diluc. Which I still don't have Dx Though, tbh, I would probably just build Diluc, because I like him x3

Tedious is the right word ! The restriction isn't making the game mode hard, it's just annoying & tedious as you said.

Yeah I didn't adress the issue regarding the availability of characters to level up + artifacts to equip them, which makes the problem even worse and your experience is a good example of it. But at least they quickly reacted to the feedback of the players & hopefully these issues will be ironed out for the next iterations of the theater !

It def gives the impression of "being rushed" yes, maybe that's because of finally having some competition & them trying to do something in panic mode to retain players.

It def didn't get playtested well enough. I'm speculating here but the game devs might have had pressure to include those restrictions by higher ups, in a move to push players to spend more ... Those restrictions scream " pull more " & " use more ressources than you can afford " type of message.

@@vlday I hope soon whales stop spending on this game because of higher ups' decisions. I heard that most of the bad stuff in Genshin is because of director that worked during first 3 years of Honkai 3rd.

Having this playstyle is fine with the theater & I'm glad it didn't cause problems for you. Unfortunately, other playstyles can go through some issues to JUST access the game mode which, honestly, doesn't make sense.

@@vlday i get it, my friend complained that she couldn't do it (I somehow first tried it lol) and idk if I'm even going to be able to complete it on another friends account since they don't build many characters

exactly my overall feeling yeah. At least they acknowledge the issues & are going to work on more optimizations for the game mode in the future.

Also something to add to your comment : it's extremely rare to get hard countered in the abyss on both sides. My Neuvillette can't beat the hydro tulpa ? I can use him on the other side. My Xiao isn't super effective against the Wenut ? I can always run him on the other side etc.

@@ZE.brigitte that would be wayyyy better indeed

@@vlday Yeah, so like that you are rewarded for using the character they want :')

Your comment is very confusing. First of all, the theater is NOT a proper endgame. An endgame is supposed to offer the players a challenging & replayable gameplay loop. This mode fails to deliver that experience. The theater is EXTREMELY easy and the fact it restricts your characters directly hinders its replayability. In fact it's even worse than that cuz denying you the progress you made on many of your characters doesn't make sense in an Endgame content : Imagine you are playing a RPG and the last donjon of the game just tells you " oh no sorry, you won't be able to beat this donjon with this warrior class. Better go back & select another one" Second of all, you literally made my point by saying that now, "people have to think about building few characters a lot for spiral or many characters manageable for theater". Because of how stingy hoyoverse is with ressources, you are putting a lot of your playerbase at a crossroad : Do you want to play Spiral abyss endgame or Imaginarium theater endgame ? Without spending, you could be spending many months if not YEARS achieving both goals, that's just insane. It's basically punishing you for either not having enough ressources, or having a certain style of play : You enjoy pushing your Ayaka to her maximum potential (getting her the proper teammates & weapon etc.), congratulation you can play abyss but too bad, you'll miss out on this theater version. You enjoy playing many characters without maxing them & extracting their full potential, good you have access to the theater but forget about getting all the rewards in spiral abyss. How is this a good game design ? Finally I'll just point you toward Hoyoverse's response (in the pinned comment). The fact that they acknowledge the issues of the theater (which is an EXTREMELY rare behavior from them) just tells you that these complaints are completely viable, and that you are just not seeing the whole picture.

@@vlday you are aware that people have different taste and can enjoy different things? There are literally several rumors/leaks about different permanent things they want to implement sooner or later. Just because you don't enjoy it doesn't mean everyone thinks it's bad. More optimized yes, but the concept it still very enjoyable for me. I personally hate the cardgame and it is all over the game. Still I wouldn't talk about it over and over.

@@blackdomeh You are missing the point. Me not having fun in the game mode doesn't matter, it's the last part of the video and as I said, it's the most subjective one. I tried to showcase factual issues about the game mode, tackling the problems of replayability, lack of difficulty, management of ressources, unsynergistic teams etc. I see its problems from a game design point of view, and I talk about them. If anything, that's what any game dev want for their game. It's called feedback. So if people are having fun that makes my complaints not valid ? How does it work exactly ? Criticizing a game mode doesn't mean you hate it, it means you want it to be better, to be improved. Especially if this game mode is permanent & supposed to be endgame. Also I don't look into leaks, So I'm never basing my opinions on rumors or potential misinformations (Free Ayaka when hitting AR42 nowayyyy poggerrrrs) ...

@@vlday I see, I was possibly put of by your clickbaity title and the general vibe from CCs I stumbled upon. Since the theater came out I saw so many unfair criticisms or complains especially on youtube and twitter. Like even thinking ahead with character usage and boons in general is too much to ask. Like, I agree that there need to be some optimizations done and I will address my personal problems in the survey too. (And I sound very confusing because english is not my first language. But I think I get my point across good enough.)

@@blackdomeh All good, I appreciate you sharing your opinion !

This is my second account, I don't have a use for chevreuse on it since all my electro units (keqing, cyno, clorinde, kuki, beidou, fischl) are maxed & crowned on the main account. I will max her when I get her on main account obviously.

Fair take tbh but I don't agree with the "anti-meta" view. Why would I raise & build a unit that is redundant & doesn't max the potential of my favorite characters ? I could use a Xinyan to shield my Xiao (in fact my xinyan is actually built on main account lol), but why would I do that if MANY other units do that job better than her ? Why would I allocate those precious ressources on her (in this example) ? Just so I can pat myself on the back telling myself that this will be useful in the theater at some point ?? If ressources were abundant in genshin, then sure why not, could be fun to have a variety of characters built "just in case" ... but unfortunately hoyo's stinginess makes it unrealistic for players to build that many characters (especially if you are f2p). As I said in the video, playing a suboptimal version of my favorite characters in an ENDGAME mode doesn't make sense to me from a game design perspective, but as I said in the video also, that's ME ... I don't have fun doing that & fun is subjective soooo ...

@@vlday You asked "why", and I'd say, because you have the choice to do so and not make it be useless now. If you build Xinyan now, you can use her in Theater. Thoma, Yanfei and Dehya could work as well, and now you have the option to not try to choose the "best" one, and have situations where you use the ones you chose to build. And you can still stick to your meta-picks as well (like bennett/xiangling), but you can't rely on them too much. That's why I said it's "anti-meta". No one is forced to build Xinyan because of that mode (unless it's an early account and they don't have many options, but I was "forced" to build xingqiu at the beginning as well even though I don't like him, so it's how the game works, I guess). Oh, and about how troublesome is to build characters: I agree. But I don't think the mode is at fault there, it's the leveling up system that should be improved imo.

​@@vlday Your reason for not building the unit is because you believe its a waste of resources. To be fovaroable to you, I believe you're basing how useful a character is on open world and spiral abyss. For example why build xinyan when your layla has a better shield for both spiral abyss and open world activities. But in my opinion why can't theatre mechanics be considered? Why can't it be theatre, spiral and open world. When you think of building why can't you go like "Well I don't want to put resources into her because I already have a shielder that I like for open world and spiral abyss, but she will help me out a bit with theatre mechanics si let me just level her up to 70" why can't your thought process be like that it? Is it because you dislike theatre? Is it because you believe the rewards are too little? A reason that you gave before prior to what I said is because its a waste of resources and I disagree. You also never explained why its a waste aside from saying resources are scarce. You could say it's a waste of your time to even play genshin to begin with since time is a scarce resource and everything you get from this game is digital and will be realistically lost when the game inevitable shuts down their servers. My point is that how do you determine what is a waste in genshin? Is it spiral abyss? Open world? Character design? Voice lines? Game play? Or is it a mix? If its a mix then that makes your point of wasting resources even less valid. It's entirely opinionated as to whether you should build xinyan on your account at all or just keep farming RNG artifacts. Entirely. Xinyan could be of use in theatre but obviously you don't consider that. Remember value in terms of meta is entirely controlled by hoyo. If they remove spiral abyss you wouldn't need such a strong shield. If they add theatre you would need a few (maybe) strong shields. If they remove theatre then you only need 2 in general. When hoyo adds something like theatre that promotes building lower level units, you should build them because hoyo has given value to them. You can call it a waste due to limited resources but are the resources so limited that after building xinyan on your main account you couldn't clear spiral abyss? Obviously not. And the same applies to both my AR 59 and AR 56 accounts. Even if one has a lot more backlogged resources than the other, I could still use my resin wisely (aka building characters I need for theatre as an f2p) and get it done. I still want to know what you mean by waste of resources. How you determine value. Is it off spiral abyss and if so why spiral abyss and not theatre. If theatre was added before spiral abyss I believe spiral abyss will be getting hate. F2p saying its too hard and hoyo having to nerf it. Whales and high invested account would still clear it easily (check skizdal, he is f2p and clears spiral abyss and theatre with ease). A lot of f2p can do spiral abyss after a while. I mean that youtube eake cleared spiral abyss 32 stars on a fresh account in 3 weeks. What's stopping him from there going like (as an f2p mind you) "let me build a few randoms for theatre now that I have gotten most of the resources from spiral". So please explain your logic behind waste of resources and value in genshin.

@@putent9623 Okay so lemme try to quickly answer the main point of each paragraph, hopefully it will clear the air : Paragraph 1 : My thought process can't be like that because of two very important points : Ressources are scarce in genshin + Redundancy of units. Let's pick the example of shielders : On my main account I have ZL, Xinyan, Diona & Thoma leveled & I use them from time to time. I don't have layla leveled up despite her being better than Thoma & Diona. At the time, the decision was " I don't like her that much + I have this job currently covered by 3 other units (xinyan doesn't count her shield is a joke). So now, If I don't have enough cryo units, I will be leveling up Layla JUST TO ACCESS the theater ? that's the definition of wasting ressources because Diona is already leveled & ready to be played. Paragraph 2 : Answered that earlier but I'll add that leveling up a character to 70 JUST TO ACCESS a game mode is a waste of ressource. This character won't be even used in combat, and the sole purpose of that process is just to unlock the difficulty mode, as shown in the video with Beidou & Chev. In the video, me not leveling up Beidou & Chev doesn't mean these units are useless. But ON THAT account & the way it's played (not a lot of electro units leveled because all my electros are maxed on main) it's the definition of wasting ressources. Paragraph 3 : Yes ressources are limited. I don't know how you play the game but in my case, I can't max more than 2 characters per patch. There's 84 playable characters in genshin. I hope you see my point now. Paragraph 4 : I hope the answers above helped but I'll add another thing regarding the definition of waste : Let's say AS AN EXAMPLE, that I don't like Kaveh for different reasons (don't like the design, the gameplay, whatever other reason). Telling me to use scarce ressources, on a character I dislike, just to access the game mode is for me, the DEFINITION OF wasting my ressources. It has nothing to do with performance or meta or whatever reason. If you are forced to use ressources on characters you don't like, that's wasted ressources (it's suggestive ofc, but it's still ressources that you would have liked allocating elsewhere). Also regarding the F2P argument, you need to have a good banner and be lucky getting the right characters to beat it that fast. In most cases it will take way more time, those examples are the exceptions, not the rule. And it's not as linear as you are making it look to be : You can clear 36 stars abyss with that lineup but that doesn't mean you are done for life with spiral abyss. The next one could have a combination of elemental & dps check like the current abyss for example. So there will be pressure to keep going for more performant units in that case, putting more pressure on the decision to go for more " other whatever units to play theater ". Pfew ! Okay hopefully that was enough elements to answer your questions !

@putent9623 Maybe I can shed some light on the "What's a waste" question. It all comes back to resin. You need it for EVERYTHING in this game and yet you get precious little of it from week to week. For context: I started playing last year. I'm mostly F2P with the exception of BP, a Welkin here or there, or banners for characters I really want. it's been just over a year for me now, and since I wasn't aware of how scarce Resin was OR how necessary it would be for every aspect of this game I'm always too short to build every character I pull. That means a player like me has to be a lot more frugal with their resources. Every player has to look at the content and decide what kind of content they want to run, right? For most people that's Spiral Abyss, which requires two teams. So players are usually encouraged to build out a few different options for both sides, yes? Even major content creators will advise players to be frugal with their resources and focus on building out a few certain kinds of characters with the expectation that you'll then have no major difficulty clearing most of the game's content. So you need resin for: - Artifacts - Talent books - World boss drops - EXP books (leylines) - Mora (leylines) - Weekly boss drops - And NOW to use your overflow encounter points, starting in patch 4.8 We don't have a resin bank. We only earn 200 in a normal period, one every eight minutes. Free BP only gives you a total of five resin every ten levels, paid BP still only gives you ten, and remember that you're limited in how much you can level your BP every week. If you grind BP that's a maximum of 4 extra refreshes (240 resin in a week). Now toss in the housing item reset, right? That's one a week also, so 60 additional resin in a week. This is old but you need- "Total: 4,245 resin, or 23.58 days, (at 180 resin per day) to max a character." That says a lot. If you haven't been saving your resin before AR40 (which I didn't know I needed to, and I think a lot of players didn't either), haven't been playing the game for at least a year, and/or collect a lot of characters (especially if you're without a fair understanding of who you should/want to level) it is SO easy to waste resources. The resource in question is resin. Granted, that number has shifted now that they bumped the resin cap up to 200, but only technically since the refresh rate stayed the same (1 every 8 minutes with NO bank for overflow). It's still a major problem. The community has BEEN asking Hoyo to give us a resin bank and/or up the refresh rate. Hence: Using resin to level a character you're ONLY going to use for *ONE* game mode is, indeed, WASTEFUL.

I thought more about the labyrinth warriors event & was like " maybe they couldn't implement it for technical reasons that we aren't aware of ", maybe it was too big for phones if it was permanent, or something idk, I'm not a game dev 😆. But I agree with what you said, give me access to my characters if you really want me to enjoy a game mode, otherwise it just feels bad.

you get all of these in hsr, its just not open world

The scarabs ... I still have PTSD from that hahaha But I agree and your suggestion regarding the special guests is actually a good one. I feel like those restrictions are just trying to gate keep the content, and needs to go. Cuz right now it's elemental restrictions but who says that in the future it won't be Weapon type restrictions ? Or hair color restrictions idk 🤣

@@vlday Imagine a Catalyst only Theater 💀 Now that would be super messed up lmao

Im going to be honnest with you, I used to fill those surveys EVERY patch, and stopped doing it months ago because of how tone def hoyo seemed to be with Genshin. I will make an exception for the next survey though & will be properly writting my feedback regarding imaginarium theater, they really need to fix its issues.

@@vlday I always fill them because well, they're there for something. With enough outcry both outside the game and in these surveys they'll *_have_* to listen. Thankfully I read your pinned comment and they did listen. Still, making suggestions via the Surveys is still a better way to push the to actually fix the problem ^^

Skill issue… no, it’s just not fun. It’s not hard, just annoying (the whole point of his video)

This ^ ! Done now on both accounts without any issue, it was just annoying to unlock hard difficulty on the second account.

Yeah right

This means you have no life

Yeah fr. I'm not that big of a gacha gamer, but Genshin isn't my first gacha game (it's HI3rd), and sadly over there, some characters are so broken I've never had to bench them unless their 'element' was completely useless (Herrscher of Human: Ego (Elysia)), so I'm not that used to horizontal investment. Thankfully enough, though, I do have plenty of options. But I still need to build them, and the biggest hurdle is to get enough Boss mats and good enough Artifacts as a F2P. One of the biggest problems towards building characters, in my opinion, is material accessibility. I've had Cyno ever since 3.5, got him to Ascencion 3 for the wishes and never used him due to him needing Scarabs and them being so far apart from eachother compared to other unit's materials I had. So, when you add not knowing much about horizontal investment in gacha games + resin restrictions + annoying materials, you get people with not enough characters even after getting to a comfortable endgame state on their account.

I see, so it's a common practice in the gacha industry. Genshin is the only gacha I play, so Im really not that used to these mechanics😮‍💨(and will never be ...)

@@KyzenEX Material access has been my main gripe w/ Genshin all these years. I heard from leaks that there will be changes to weekly boss materials for easier access as of 5.0, but for materials on the map, you have to farm them yourself regardless. I usually use Kyostinv's guides for those efficient material farming (I did for those starfish for Clorinde and Neuv). The guy makes the process into 5 to 10 minutes. Don't shy away from efficient farming routes, it'll save you a lot of time. Also, w/ Genshin being an open world, hoard everything. I hoarded Beryl conches until I had 168 (enough to fully ascend 1 character) before Charlotte came out while exploring in the overworld. It saved me time when I got her and build her. Have that mindset when you explore Natlan when it releases, you never know you might need it, and you'll thank yourself later. But I will agree that the Imaginarium's implementation is as clunky as you say for its debut. Could have been done better.

@@vlday Well, if it helps, the main thing in playing a gacha game is to slowly build a diverse account to have all your bases covered since devs are notorious in throwing any sort of meta your way. Gacha games are slow progress as an f2p for this reason, as it persuades ppl who want faster progression to pay. For those who don't like that very slow and horizontal grind, I'd suggest them playing a non gacha game instead. I mean no offense, but that sort of patience as an f2p is not for everyone.

@@diahprasetianingtyas6822 Oh don't worry about it, no offense taken, especially since I consider myself be a VERY patient F2P player. Been a degen min maxer in this game since the first week of its release, doing artifact & elite boss routes for the longest time, saving my primos accordingly etc. I don't have any issue with the grinding aspect, in fact I like it a lot. But I wanted to showcase the issues the game mode has, with many players, by using my secondary account as an example (I don't min max that account at all, I wanna keep my sanity 🤣)

Agreed, these restrictions are out of touch when you realize how limited the access to ressources is in Genshin. The worst part is that I feel like they tried to please everyone, veterans by having a lot of character & elemental restrictions to reward their horizontal investment, and newer players by having relatively low hp bosses to fight, and ended up annoying both types of players 😆

Gonna have to agree. I had problems understanding what i was doing. This was very hard for a F2P player.

I can't believe they actually responded immediately to this, which is a good thing! Just surprising. Let's see how it turns out. Also, thanks for the update!

What makes me think this one is harder is the fact that I cleared that 3.7 abyss with my very very weak second account at the time, by leveling a Xiangling to 80 with pyronado at talent 8 (guoba was lvl 6) & playing her with Bennet, Rosaria (lvl80) and a very underleveled Layla with a lvl 80 weapon too. It was basically an element application check, compared to this one that has both elemental applications & dps checks. No way in hell I would be able to clear this abyss with such underleveled units.