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CHAOS EXTERMINATION! | PreCon Mash-Up - The Ruinous Powers x Masters of Evil
Let chaos reign this holiday season with the ultimate Grixis Mash-Up of Doctor Who and Warhammer! Barrage the battlefield with non-stop combat, relentless burn, and devastating removal in this clash of the Multiverse; CHAOS EXTERMINATION! Merry Grixmas to all, and to all a good fight!
FULL DECKLIST HERE:
www.moxfield.com/decks/2Ng1dDp67Uq9cL2QEoQQtw
Precon Mash-up takes ONLY the cards found inside Commander Precons, trims away all the fat, and leaves behind one powerful deck! The perfect show for learning how to maximize your old decks in fantastic new ways!
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Thanks for watching!
FULL DECKLIST HERE:
www.moxfield.com/decks/2Ng1dDp67Uq9cL2QEoQQtw
Precon Mash-up takes ONLY the cards found inside Commander Precons, trims away all the fat, and leaves behind one powerful deck! The perfect show for learning how to maximize your old decks in fantastic new ways!
Join our discord! - discord.gg/XFzUMgFPbX
Thanks for watching!
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Fixing "20 Ways to Win" Secret Lair Deck | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 39
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No sooner when we published the best decks of 2024 did a new Secret lair Commander Deck fall from the heavens, and it is...something. "20 Ways to Win" is trying to be a 5-color Alt Win Cons deck but it needs some help. Joseph and Jon take the helm to give tips and help discover the true possibilities of winning the game the unconventional way! CHECK OUT THE FIXED DECK HERE: www.moxfield.com/dec...
Which Doctor? This Doctor! | Dr. Who Commander PreCons Mash-Up!
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The laws of time are mine and they will obey me! Let's bring all the Doctors together into one wibbly-wobbly pile of Legends across time and space. We are combining the four Preconstructed Decks from the Doctor Who Commander, lead by Secret Lair The Fourteenth Doctor and Rose Noble. Smash from the past with this Historic focus paradox of all things Doctor Who. FULL DECKLIST HERE: www.moxfield.c...
The Best Commander PreCons of 2024 | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 38
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2024 is coming to a close and that means it's time for reflecting on our past. This year has been a big one for us here at The Thoughtcast as it is our first full year of coverage for you to enjoy, so we are taking the opportunity to review back on the assorted Commander Preconstructed Decks released this year, and share with you our Top 5! CHECK OUT OUR SCORES HERE: docs.google.com/spreadsheet...
The Best Cards You Missed from Foundations! | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 37
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Standard Horizons is here with Foundations; The newest booster set boating a long Standard run time. But does the longest Standard set ever made have good hits for Commander? Find out with the Thoughtcast boys on today's dive into the best cards you might have missed for Foundations! Thank you for watching The MTG Thoughtcast! We are Magic: The Gathering enthusiasts who want to share our chats ...
High Tide High-Five | Lier / Rendmaw / Hazel / Zimone | Commander Gameplay | Thoughtclash LIVE
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Welcome to Thoughtclash, Magic: The Gathering gameplay from The MTG Thoughtcast. From Precons, Constructed, and Competitive we play it all! Enjoy the battle, and let the Thoughtclash BEGIN! THE THOUGHTCLASH COMPETITORS: Jon - "Lier, Disciple of the Drowned" Fish - "Hazel of the Root Bloom" Chase - "Zimone, Mystery Unraveler" Joseph - "Rendmaw, Creaking Nest" LISTEN TO OUR PODCAST HERE: th-cam.c...
Futuresight 2025 | A Glimpse into Magic's Future! | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 36
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The new year is coming up fast and with it comes an overhaul to the booster release roadmap for new sets. Jon and Joseph discuss what these changes bring about for Commander, Standard, Limited and more in today's look of tomorrow's future! Thank you for watching The MTG Thoughtcast! We are Magic: The Gathering enthusiasts who want to share our chats about some of our favorite things about the g...
Life is a Misery | Oloro, Ageless Ascetic | Super Quick Deck Tech
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Life is a Misery | Oloro, Ageless Ascetic | Super Quick Deck Tech
Duskmourn: House of Horror Nightmare Bundle FULL OPENING! | Pack It In - Overstuffed!
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Duskmourn: House of Horror Nightmare Bundle FULL OPENING! | Pack It In - Overstuffed!
Duskmourn Nightmare Bundle Giveaway! | 500 SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAY!!
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Duskmourn Nightmare Bundle Giveaway! | 500 SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAY!!
The Best Commander Variants | Planechase, Archenemy, Bounties, & More! | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 35
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The Best Commander Variants | Planechase, Archenemy, Bounties, & More! | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 35
The Best Cards You Missed From Duskmourn | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 34
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Junderdome is actually toxic | Magic Arena Gameplay Highlight
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Junderdome is actually toxic | Magic Arena Gameplay Highlight
Mystery Booster 2 BOOSTER BOX OPENING! | Pack It In - Overstuffed!
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Mystery Booster 2 BOOSTER BOX OPENING! | Pack It In - Overstuffed!
Endless Punishment Commander Review & Upgrade | Duskmourn: House of Horror | The MTG Thoughtcast
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Endless Punishment Commander Review & Upgrade | Duskmourn: House of Horror | The MTG Thoughtcast
Jump Scare! Commander Review & Upgrade | Duskmourn: House of Horror | The MTG Thoughtcast
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Jump Scare! Commander Review & Upgrade | Duskmourn: House of Horror | The MTG Thoughtcast
Miracle Worker Commander Review & Upgrade | Duskmourn: House of Horror | The MTG Thoughtcast
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Miracle Worker Commander Review & Upgrade | Duskmourn: House of Horror | The MTG Thoughtcast
Duskmourn Commander Set Review | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 33
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Duskmourn Commander Set Review | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 33
Death Toll Commander Review & Upgrade | Duskmourn: House of Horror | The MTG Thoughtcast
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Death Toll Commander Review & Upgrade | Duskmourn: House of Horror | The MTG Thoughtcast
The Snails of Wrath | Bess/Kambal/Wick/Ojer Axonil | Commander Gameplay | Thoughtclash LIVE 9-6-24
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The Snails of Wrath | Bess/Kambal/Wick/Ojer Axonil | Commander Gameplay | Thoughtclash LIVE 9-6-24
Forests of Fear | Jump Scare! x Reap the Tides PreCon Mash-Up!
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Forests of Fear | Jump Scare! x Reap the Tides PreCon Mash-Up!
The Over/Under Commander Debate! | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 32
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The Over/Under Commander Debate! | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 32
Modern Masters 2015 Edition Draft Booster | Pack It In
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Modern Masters 2015 Edition Draft Booster | Pack It In
Conspiracy: Take the Crown Draft Booster | Pack It In
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Conspiracy: Take the Crown Draft Booster | Pack It In
Building a Great, CHEAP Mana base! | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 31
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Building a Great, CHEAP Mana base! | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 31
Jon Learns How Phyrexian Obliterator Works
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Jon Learns How Phyrexian Obliterator Works
Attacking isn't a Crime | Yidris / Hazel / Alela / Aesi | Commander Gameplay | Thoughtclash LIVE
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Attacking isn't a Crime | Yidris / Hazel / Alela / Aesi | Commander Gameplay | Thoughtclash LIVE
Best Cards You Missed from Bloomburrow! | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 30
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Best Cards You Missed from Bloomburrow! | The MTG Thoughtcast Ep. 30
Set Sails for Commander! | Edward Kenway | Super Quick Deck Tech
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Set Sails for Commander! | Edward Kenway | Super Quick Deck Tech
nah man i bought it and made a simic ramp deck out of this this is too many hoops for too lil reward imo... against what am i supposed to do this? vs 3 decks of crabs??
Too much hate for what is a fun goofy homebrew alt win deck that woulda cost double the price ordering the singles online. The only real issue is lack of Rhystic, Tithe, Esper, or Tutors. They knew they were being stingy not giving us at least one.
@@CourtJesterCowboy but see, it's not a goofy home brew, it's an official product, and not a cheap one! If they can give us $40 precons like Bloomburrow's four, they know how to juice these up and missed the mark! -Joseph
@@MTGThoughtcast It's literally just Daniel Holt's passion project on Secret Lair for fun? He was very open about it... They can't give us $250 worth of cards for $40.
Cool video but my eyes hurt because or the camera is bad or you need to focus the cam. Love the Conspiracy sets! :D
@TheDude673 Yeah, I know something didn't line up well with camera setting. I'm trying to improve for future packs. -Jon
I was excited for this deck, & mybwife agreed to buy it for me for Christmas. I love the idea of all the win cons in 1 deck. I've got about $400 worth of add ins to modify this deck. I'm adding tutors, & cards to double counters/tokens, & a bunch more to really synergize this deck. It may no longer be a 20 ways to win, but it'll be more than 10 for sure.
Sounds like a great direction to rebuild it! -Jon
I wish you both shared your improved lists! I loved red shirts concepts around skeletons for two or 3 decks. . Future answer: I bought it. And honoestly, just because the individual cards are worth more than the decklist with no special art, so it is a savings technically. But you guys hit the nail on the head for it not being consistent out of the box. Im breaking it down like your brother suggested for 3 decks.
@@TelesphoreArt Jon had some more conceptual ideas, but my improved deck list is in the description!! Thanks for watching :) -Joseph
I now only respond to being called "Red Shirt" :D
@ Noted, Redshirt! 😂🏃♂️
You can watch the creator of this deck play it on commander at home.
Yeah, sick video!
do you happen to remember which ep. that was?
THIS IS THE GLUNTCH HOMIES BUTTON SMASH THAT THING 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇
Needed this for my Mr House Deck, thank you!
Nice video! Solid ideas. Just a heads-up though, I think this is actually the 5th secret lair precon. There was the coin-flip deck, cats and dog deck, MDFC deck, and an angels deck.
@@JustaRookontheboard oh yes, Jon kindly corrected me on this later in the episode 😅 -Joseph
I bought it and I watched dudes that magic's vid on this they went a different route, i really like how you guys leaned into the shrines that being said with all the 1/1 creation why remove the yahenni pariah combo? I for one love Yahenni and may keep him, but both obviously more experienced magic players cut him, why is that? i'm new to the game it's my first year. Is it to free up space for all the new cards? I dunno may have a sweet spot for him, i get this isn't an arisocratic deck but like he was saying u can always add pariah back w Go shintai but it isn't worth it mana trade off wise, but to me wouldnt be worth it if u had yahenni on board pariah in grave and need to buy time? idk extremely situational and as i've typed more about it i see why people cut the combo. literally could just include walking balista and some other unobjectively good card like esper sentinel or authority of consuls I suppose.
@kobegrumbein5681 Cuts and adds are always subjective based on your preferred play style. Joseph, in this instance, leaned more into supporting the win cons utilizing life and counters but you can absolutely go the other direction for creatures and "rectangle theory" to win more with Halo Fountain, Liliana's Contract, or Biovisionary. -Jon
@@MTGThoughtcast i think i might cut Lilliana's contract n it's support add walking ballista Angel of Destiny and millennium calendar like you were talking about Jon, maybe authority of consuls. I'm so determined to make this wacky deck work!
@@kobegrumbein5681 We'd love to hear about the stupid wins you can achieve! -Jon
@@MTGThoughtcast will do! Do you guys have a discord?
@@MTGThoughtcast just pulled off a combo using auriok champion basking broodscale but not the typical way lol i put in a bunch of auriok champion loop cards and accidentally looped it with heliod lol instead of archangel of thrune or one of the untap when u heal cards just applied the counters on broodscale n it was basically infinite 0/1s that tap for colorless and infiinite counters w heliod! plus infinite heals so it was pretty bad ass to say the least, I only started playing mtg earlier this year
decklist perhaps?
@@Scragore www.moxfield.com/decks/UsnQvB52IUqDxvpTKhgxWQ Adding it to the description as well, thanks for the feedback! -Jon
It's in the description
Hello! I know I'm late to this but I am getting into MTG and I'm loving everything Eldrazi. Is there a decklist you can share? I saw the upgraded mash of the new precons but $200+ is crazy to get started haha
@LevelUpDesign22 Welcome to Magic friend! So this video goes into the Eldrazi Incursion PreCon deck which you can find a decklist link here: moxfield.com/decks/guLGf5HBmUyrqbttAnng-A
you couldve used the black or any color companion to do 5 colors
Correct, I mention that in the video you can use Clara or Vislor with 14th to make it 5 color, but I didnt feel Black added enough for Historic to justify it here and Rose Noble is better in the Command Zone as instant access to card draw. -Jon
Just a nitpick: Except when the text of a card specifically gives a color to one or more lands, all lands are always colorless. Yes, I know that he meant "lands that don't generate colored mana", but that's not what he said.
Hey guys, I love your content but I'm shocked to hear that you have purchased only one precon in 24. How would you be able to judge? Three of the OTJ precons are great. My personal favourite is upgraded desert bloom. Sacking all the lands and getting them back from graveyard is so hilarious, that even my playgroup did not complain despite losing twice.
@andreasmueller337 Thanks for watching! While yes I only bought one this year each deck's list of cards and online data showing synergy, play pattern, and themes are what we used in research. Obviously this is also just our opinions so I'm glad to hear about Desert Bloom as one of your favorites! -Jon
@@andreasmueller337 hey, Joseph here adding too! We reviewed and play tested every single one of these this year, you can go back and see what we thought at release vs now too! While we haven't purchased many of these, I feel like I know them all intimately, and was just as shocked as you at some of our results too! All part of the fun! :) -Joseph
Great outfit 😂❤😂
@@kiltr4p851 Just call me The Doctor Pepper -Jon
Top 5 Favorite 2024 precons 1. Peace Offering (upgraded) 2. Graveyard Overdrive (upgraded, went less boomer Jund and took more of a dredge/graveyard approach) 3. Family Matters (upgraded) 4. Deep Clue Sea (biggest surprise, upgraded) 5. Desert Bloom (upgraded)
Very great list!
I put Aesi in Omo it was an absolutely Heinous move on my Part. Bonny Paul and Trailblazer Boots(Nonbasic Landwalk)
@@deviousj5868 a certified classic
Just started watching the video. Hoping my boy Bello gets a good score!
@@Rockjay288 no spoilers 🤫
52:37 Bello turns artifacts and enchantments into indestructible creatures 🥺 for enchantments at least that seems new. Justice for Bello!
@ *IIIII* thought it was a sweet deck.... -Joseph
The zimone deck upgraded was awesome though.
Agreed, couldn't score it on upgrades though!
@ should’ve included “upgradability” in as a factor. I always read the deck lists before I buy the 4 pack precons and my favorite is usually the one that is the best after a few upgrades.
Graveyard Overdrive was incredibly bad out of the box. When the stars allign perfectly it can go pretty hard, but it needs a bunch of upgrades to make the deck only slightly consistent. When you so, however, the deck is an absolute blast to play! Without upgraddes, this felt like playing a commander precon from a decade ago.
We regularly play against an upgraded disa deck, and get our teeth kicked in by some goyfs!
@@MTGThoughtcastThat deck really needed more goyfs, more evasion and/or more ways to make all creature goyfs. Also, pretty much all of the high level reprints weren't really jelling with the rest of the deck. I've bought and played/played against a bunch of precons out of the box this year, and I don't think any have disappointed me more than this one. Especially considering the price point on release. I was so hyped for this, bought it keep "as is", but I just had to upgrade it because the play patterns were so bad. 😅 Not that it's upgraded it's an amazing deck, tho. Really love the way it plays.
@@kamikazehansu I really agree, once you do get the upgrades, spent around 120 euro, the deck is really something else. Some tutors, more maskwood effects, and some real bombs from outside the gyoff creature type really pushed it over the edge
pog
@@magiliw7247 Poggers!
If this is control then shouldnt we be running more counterspells?
@joshponco We should be, yes. I choose this path because it's funnier. I know it's not perfect but it works out. Please feel free to sub any cards out with you're preferred counters. -Jon
@ yeah I guess the contingency for not having CS’s is recursion. Loving your channel and appreciate the response. Cheers!
Bumbleflower Mafia!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fallout games are 10000% worth the time investment!
Nelly borca was my mvp this year. I love the politics it opens up and the general game of Chicken it presents. It makes any game more complex bc the opponent needs to consider "do i attack and potentially get repelled by the deck, or do I attack someone else and get a draw." My upgraded version is one that I play every time I meet with my pod.
@@yugiohmbm Blame Game so nearly made our top 5! I'm a huge fan of interesting Boros decks, so I obviously rated that one pretty highly! -Joseph
I have a four colour deck without green in it with an artifact theme, so the landscapes are really useful there with less pressure to have the correct colours asap
@MTGThoughtcast i liek your edward kenway deck tech
@@Chris-Collectible hey thanks!! -Joseph
I like moving lights however your sweet background though beautiful is moving a bit too fast for me causing distraction.
Thank you very much for the feedback! I will keep this in mind for future episodes. I apologize for the distracting ambiance. -Jon
@ Great episode nonetheless!
I can't wait to run Hare apparent in a Duskana, the Rage Mother deck
Oh that is sick!! You get access to impact tremors effects, plus all the card draw from green!! -Joseph
Chase is main character
@@pandakai6422 Big Protagonist energy
No on standard strictly Commander 😎 bought two collector boxes. Stick to singles
@@jessypalacios9560 We're different here: You like boxes? Treat yourself! Prefer Singles? You go! Wholesale lots? Get some! Be the best Magic player You wanna be! -Jon
Great episode! Really excited for the perforating artist!
Woooooo
Haha
Coram as a commander works very well in this deck.
Space balls the secret lair! 😂
@@CokaShimoda Cyclonic Rift as "Gone to Plaid", that's all I want. -Jon
Post live update: The counterspell in here is Counterbalance. Thanks for watching
My favorite had to be Event Horizon. It's such a fun movie.
Congrats, guys!
Congrats on 500!!!!
🎊 Congratulations to 500 subs! 🎉 🎊
This deck makes me hate humanity
Abandon hope ye who pilots Esper Control 😂
The menu, bodies bodies bodies, the first scream, final destination, sleep away camp........ Scary cards saw in half, Mogis the scariest god, pyrexians or maybe marit lage
I recently bought the Fallout deck and was looking for a video that broke down how the combination of these two decks works. This video fits exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!
And yeah, I found that this deck actually has a better foundation for spellslinger deck than it does for the way it's initially set up. All you would have to do is plug in a few blue spouse singer staples and there you go. And since it has green in the mana pole, you definitely benefit from all the ramp.
Night of the Living Dead
Would this deck still work if I used liberty of prime?
@bigchris3247 With most of the creatures in the 99 producing Energy, Liberty should always have some to pay for it to attack or block. There still should be artifacts around too for the 2nd ability. With how this style of deck is made, mashing Science into Creative Energy can be adjusted to include more cards from one deck or vice versa! -Jon
Congrats. Hellraiser is the #1 movie.
Send us a DM, you've won!!
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Bro congrats on 500. The movie The People Under the Stairs