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Studiologic Numa x piano GT vs Yamaha CP88 extended review!!!
This is an extended review about these 2 beautiful keyboards. I can see Studiologic is working hard to bring new improved sounds. It is not far behind from Yamaha, for some the studiologic might sound better !!!
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Demo Yiruma "River Flows in you". (Arturia MK2 88/ VST Grandeur Native Instruments)
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Playing River Flows in you using the Arturia Mk2 88. VST Grandeur Native Instruments.
Yamaha CP88 vs Nord Electro 6D
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Yamaha CP88 vs Nord electro 6D (No talking, no sustain pedal)
Yamaha CP88 vs Studiologic Numa x piano GT ( No talking)
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I am just comparing piano tone between these 2 keyboards. Let me know what you think 😉
Roland FP30X vs Studiologic numa x piano GT review
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Roland FP30X vs Studiologic numa x piano GT review
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I watched another review on the numa and it was pointed out that the numa didn't have good dynamic range. Instead of using more samples for soft playing they just use a filter instead, so playing softly doesn't use a soft piano sample, just a filter, bit like just reducing the volume and turning the tone down. Plus there is not a smooth transition from soft to loud, it jumps at a certain point. So it would not be my choice for solo piano. The Yamaha has a better Piano tone imo, however for the price they should have included dynamic resonance instead of just damper resonance. However, as a stage keyboard in a mix its probably less important compared to solo playing. So between the two, the Yamaha has more usable piano tones, so would be my choice.
@@jonos138 Yes definitely the Yamaha has greater dinamic range and I do prefer the pianos over the Numa. Yamaha does have better sampling and feels more connected with the beybed when playing. I did ended selling the Yamaha CP88. I do prefer the mechanical action on the Numa and the midi integration . I just wished they had better piano samples.
Thanks for the comparison, I enjoyed it! I have the Numa X73 myself. It's annoying changing from one sustain or effect pedal to another, as I know myself. You might try a 'Y' jack of some kind to send the same sustain pedal messages to both instruments. it might be worth a shot.
Very interesting comparison, thank you! The audible differences in acoutic pianos are partially due to the cut "acoustic" effects of the Yamaha CP88, they optimized it for stage, not recording or pleasant sound at home. Both instruments have excellent keyboard actions, but I wish the CP88 and especially the YC88 would have got the GrandTouch-S as built in P-525 or PCL-745. It has lighter weighted hammers, allows outstanding playing acoustic piano sounds and is far more accomplished if playiing an e-piano, synth or organ sound.
Man! You have the Nord channels connected incorrectly. The left sounds through the right and the right sounds through the left
I don’t know how you’ve hooked up Yamaha CP88, but it doesn’t sound like mines. Yours sounds terrible.
@@bobrobertson9547 I fully agree with you. I did found a very nice preset. I did split the S700 from low range to mid range and the C7 from mid range to all the way to the high range. I sold the CP88. I kept the Numa due the better midi integration and also better key action feel.
The piano sound on the numa is not my favorite. It definitely dosnt sound authentic the way Yahama does. The quality of the cp88 is definitely better sounding.
Could you compare GT with Dexibell vivo S10? With one has the better key action?
Could you compare with Dexibell vivo S10? With one has the better key action?
Have you ever tried Dexibell S10? Please if you can, tried it and tell me the difference between then anda the Numa X GT!
Please somebody tell me that has some better option of keybeds in another brand that is as good as this fp40 from numa!? I just can pay 21 thousand in a piano that I hat the sounds!
Numa suck’s! What about Yamaha YC comparison with this GT? Also wooden keys
It is literally the same CP88 and YC88 but YC does have an organ engine. Both models 88 keys use exact same keybed.
Have you ever tried Kawai VPC1 action? I am trying to decide between the Numa and VPC1. Interested only in the piano action. For referente I had a Roland PHA50 action was good but not close to a real piano. Tried VPC1 and liked It a lot but I cant try the Numa. I wonder which IS better. Also for some reason I like more VPC1 action compared to MP11SE one.
Great job! Which one feels the best to you? Lovely playing, I'm green with envy! I think I prefer the Studio Logic sound. It sounds fuller and warmer to me. But that doesn't matter since I use Pianoteq.
How’s the key noise between the two; with the volume off? Hard to decide which to get for studio… both are tasty :)
The CP88 is way louder.
@@ispianistthx brother!
The numa sounds nice but it’s not a sampled instrument the way the yahama is and if you turn it up you can hear it. The numa just sounds like a colored waveform, the yahama sounds definately more realistic to me
This is quite literally the exact video I needed! Thanks 🙏
Could you please chare this Studiologic preset that you have made?
Are these the default sounds mate?? Hi mate, I'm debating myself to buy a Numa X 88. I have got a YC 88 I am not so happy with the result. I come from a Yamaha CVP 505. My main interest is the piano accoustic sound. With one great sound thats good enough to me. If other extra sounds were to be good, that's an extra.
Yeah I was on the same boat with my Yamaha CP88. I went through configurations and used 2 of my favorite pianos. I did split 2 patches in one. I am using the patch S700 starting on the lowest key (A0 to B3) then the patch C7 starting on the key of (C4 all the way to the key of C8). To me the CFX sounds too bright to my taste. I will upload a new video with my favorite pianos on both keyboards and the configuration I use. I did use factory pianos when I recorded this video.
@@ispianist I have tried your idea. However, I try back to back my YC88 and my Yamaha CVP505 and the sound difference is VERY noticeable. Which makes me sad for the CVP is nearly 15 years old. I really don't know what to do. I need a piano to perform, but being so used to that sound (505) which to me is utterly superior, makes me feel uncomfortable when playing the YC88.
@@ispianist would be nais to see a comparison with the patched values and sounds used. Also what made you change your mind on not selling the CP88, im sort of in a same boat as many trying to find a next gud piano. Sound is one of the most important to me with the right feel of key action. Was looking towards the Numa X GT and the CP88 and E920 and even the Nord Grand because of sound+action all together. I wonder if the CP88 would best choice action + sound wise, but ofc hard to answer because of everyone has a favorite keybed feel + sound taste. Right now I have to deal with my current Dexibell H1 while the sounds sound prety great, the key action is so bad it makes not even want to touch the piano haha. Other problem is there are no close by stores at all so need to rely on just tons of videos and forums to get to know each piano and its sound + action. Gud luck with all
@@mr-_-cat7381 Yes I will definitely record one video pretty soon. Stay tuned. I actually getting rid of the CP88. I do love the sound but I love the Numa GT action even more. Also I just got the iPad with the M2 chip. I do have tons of vst that complements with my numa.
@@ispianist Yo, thanks for your quick response man I appreciate it. Thats sounds awesome would love to watch that ofc no rush, your videos where very clear put together so thumbs up for that! I prob should test out the Numa X GT was in my mind for a long bit as well, and yeah for the price diff should be easy to buy an iPad with it with indeed gud chip for VST's and buy some on it. Its just to bad I can't connect my Samsung S9 Ultra with it, but then the chip of iPad is ofc way stronger in the M2/M3 line range stuff. I heard a lot of people really like the Pianoteq 8 gonna check of thoose pricings haha. Gud luck with the sell hope all goes well!
Thanks a lot for this review! Your tweaked piano on the Numa sounds so much better than the German grand. Could you describe which piano you used and what tweaks you have done to it with value numbers, etc. ? Even better would be if you could offer it as a download. Thanks a lot in advance 🙂
amazing !! great!! two questions first :what do you think about the action key bord of the nord electro ? second:what do you think of the portability of the yamaha ck 88? is it really easy to transport?? because ultimately there are still 5kg more than the north....
I honestly didn't like the action for piano purposes on the Nord electro. I sold it due the action. You can't really do Pianissimos on that keyboard. Is good for rock and other stuff but for playing soft piano and vocal is not good. You mean the CP88 ??? I do not own the CK88. But the piano CP88 does have a very good action. I will keep that one as my main piano.
@@ispianist yes I agree but to transport it regularly and play on stage the weight counts enormously.
@@georgesfromsouth2991 Yes that's what I loved about the Nord electro. So easy to transport and didn't sacrifice sound quality. If you are a piano player and want to use it as "piano" I would not recommend it. The CP88 still light weight. Only weights 40lbs and is very easy to carry it with the CP bag.
Hi,can i play backing files(wav,mp3)via usb?
Connect the piano to your phone using the USB
Hey Im considering getting a Studiologic. Does it have a drum kit patch?
Yes it does.
@@ispianist what kind of drum kit patches does it have?
great review. I have decided to go with the Numa X Piano GT to record all my digital improv. My current keys (yamaha-p15) have served me well but with every keystroke they make a thumping mechanical sound which is probably due to the plastic keys. Looking forward using the Numa as a midi interface for Pianoteq 8!
Did you buy it?
@@amitev actually I ended up buying the Studiologic SL88iGrand because I focus more on classical playing for which the keys are better. Having said that I might as well have gone with the Numa since I enjoy producing again ;) I don't think you can go wrong with either although the extra midi capabilities of the Numa do outshine the SL88i (for which youd need to buy additional faders/knobs ).
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Team yamaha pero me gusta el numa tambn.❤
Thanks, for a great review! It's very helpful when someone knowledgeable shares opinions about the good AND maybe bad things about gear. I'm subscribed. I've got the Numa X Piano 73 key version with the TP110 keybed and I mostly like it. To me, it feels a lot better than keyboards I've had with the TP100. I've just sold my Nord Electro 5D73 and kept the Numa. A couple of the reasons for that are 1) that the Nord's SW, synth-weighted action was uncomfortable for me when playing piano parts, and 2) many of Nord's piano samples, while they sound great in certain circumstances, don't sound particularly impressive compared to other keyboards when everything is in MONO. Before I sold my Nord, I compared the two as far as pianos (Numa and Nord), in stereo and in mono. Nord won by a fair amount in stereo, but in mono situations, where many of us, myself included, do gigs, an expensive Nord keyboard didn't sound better. That's just my opinion.
Great review! Thanks for the info!
Great video, very useful. Thank you! Do you tknow if the Numa X GT has much difference between the NUMA X? I'm struggling to find the X GT in my country but hey, after seeing your video I feel quite inclined on the GT X, specially after reading your comment that you preffered the feel of the action on the GT X A LOT MORE than the yamaha. Thanks again
I think is the exact engine, the only change is the updgraded keys action, with a very realistic response as a piano, but the engine sound is the same
Buongiorno a tutti. Grazie per il tuo tutorial. Per le mie orecchie e perché ho avuto molti pianoforti di diverse case prestigiose, di cui uno steinway B-211, mi oriento per il nima x gt88.Togliendo il tocco, la pesatura e l'equilibrio dei fulcri sui tasti, é chiaro che un digitale non potrà mai divenire un vero pianoforte acustico. Ció nonostante lo Staff italiano ha superato ogni frontieta come campionamenti, sensori, costruzioni dei tasti fatar tp400 wood, che in verità sono in un materiale leggerissimo, indistruttibile, equilibrato al giusto punto e i tasti lateralmente sono rivestiti in legno come estetica. Da ció che emerge dalla relazione fatta dall'ingegnere della "fatar". In ogni caso ho visto dei filmati in sequenze di costruzione dell'intero piano che portano ad una soluzione di diverse campionature di suoni autentici steinway, con tutti i livelli di tocco, tramite un macchinario pilotato da un pc, fatto in pressione in diverse azioni su tasto, riportati minuziosamente per ogni singolo tasto. In questo modo si sfruttano al meglio i 3 sensori per tasto. Poi lo "scappamento", inoltre é reale la risonanza delle corde e dei pedali sustain etc. Poi il modelling che dichiarano sembra funzionare bene sui piani digitali elettronici vintage. La risultanza finale é la preferenza al numa x gt studiologic sia per qualità, prezzo, tastiera fatar tp 400 in pseudo legno. Saluti. Modesto 🎉
Came for the comparison, stayed for the playing. Thanks.
The studio logic sounds more like a real piano and has prettier sound, the Roland sounds a little on the boring side.
Like the softer sound of the studio logic.
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Don't make yourself an idiot trying to play Spain. Also use a Rhodes sound Sorry for my comment ,you should made a sound by sound comparison using you're piano skills you are not chick...just play you're style.. I had the studiologic nice pianos and some Rhodes but the rest you can't edit the sounds.
I watched the review videos carefully. I'm planning to get a new master keyboard, and I'm considering the CP88, Numa Piano X GT, and FP90X. My priorities are as follows: 1. I'm looking for a keyboard with excellent piano touch, as piano playing is my main focus, and touch sensitivity is crucial for me. 2. I also do MIDI. Considering these factors, do you have any recommendations? In fact, I plan to use VSTi piano sounds, so having good built-in sounds is a plus, but it's not a strict requirement. I think CP88 might have a slight advantage in terms of built-in sounds. I've watched various videos about the GT, but the piano tone doesn't quite resonate with me. For someone who primarily uses VSTi, it might seem excessive to purchase the GT solely for its touch sensitivity, but there is a certain desire for an enhanced touch experience, making the decision challenging. Currently, I am using the SL88 Grand, and I am satisfied with its touch to some extent.🙄
The piano presets are very crucial to me as well. After using both for a while I think I'd pick the CP88. The pianos are way better. The key bed is good is not as good as the numa but the sample is very well implemented on the CP88. The CFX is good but too bright. I'd use it for rock or pop music. My favorite pianos are the C7 (mid to high range) and the S700 (mid to low range). I did split the keyboard in half to use those two. It does sound gorgeous and also you have the EQ on both keyboards. It is easier on the CP88 due the knobs on the console. Also dynamics are very important to me. The CP88 just wins it. I think as a stage piano the CP88 wins it. The studiologic is more like a midi master controller with built in sounds. It is getting better. But the acoustic pianos should be lot better.
@@ispianist Yes, indeed, the CP88 is considered to have greater completeness even in terms of sound. It's a pity. If the GT had great built-in sounds as well, there would be no doubt that it would have been the preferred choice. If we set aside everything else and just focus on it being a bit expensive, but consider it as a master keyboard, would you be willing to consider the GT?
@@YeahBan I don't know if you live in the US but you can purchase a used GT for very good price. Yes I'd buy the GT. I am keeping my GT for home studio. I am using it mainly for my studio. The CP88 strictly for gigs. Since I don't want to carry my laptop or iPad for the extra sounds. Is just excellent for that.
@@ispianist I appreciate it very much😉. I now have confidence in my decision. I hadn't considered buying used before, which is a good idea. I live in South Korea, and it seems that the availability of used items is still limited here. However, when comparing prices for similar high-end options, it seems relatively reasonable.
Thanks for the video ...BTW where did you get the nice 3 tier keyboard stand? Brand?
This desk is available to purchase in wavebone website.
thanks man! @@ispianist
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Great video! I have had the Numa X Piano GT for a little over a year, and I agree, the Vintage Grand is my favorite. The action is also the best I’ve ever owned. I am very tempted to get a Nord Grand 2 for the better action has Nord Piano 5, but mostly for the Nord Piano Library which sounds so good. I’m not sure if I will replace my Numa since the action is just so good.
What is the model of the desk called?
Can anyone recommend their settings including EQ for the Wurlitzer, I'm still dissatisfied with the sound
Yamaha is a great sounding keyboard for the price, but Nord is over the top in sound and price! lol If I had to have only one it would be the Nord for sure!
Is there a reason why some companies such as Studiologic and Kurzweil are using external power supplies on their flagship stage pianos? I always associate wall warts with entry level cheap gear as likely others do. Maybe there’s another reason other than cost cutting?
One of the issue of internal power supplies is that when the converter fails , you need to service your keyboard with a dealer. I had the issue with my MP11.
It's cost cutting, but more complicated than you may think, if you put the transformer in the machine you have a 230V machine with different rules on safety, takes longer, costs more. My mpc keys is the only keyboard I have with a 230V plug in the back, I like that, looks more premium. 9 or 12v has the advantage you can share one good power supply for most of the stuff in your rack. Since stage pianos are most often not part of a rack I would prefer 230V for a piano all the time.
@@forton615 I’ve owned older Kurzweil keyboards and recently purchased a Nord Stage 4 Compact and didn’t want to entertain the idea of having an external wall wart for a keyboard in that type of price range 😞 At some point, some of the benefits of cost cutting ought to go towards the consumer! For me personally, I like premium gear with premium features - especially in the price range of Nord, Kurzweil and such.
The studio logic piano is pretty in the soft range than jumps right to the hard range , the mid part is kind of missing
Thoguht the NUMA has deep editing, I think you can dial in a RHodes that will suit you better then the CP88 ones
Which keybed feels better. You spoke about the sound but, as a classical piano is I would be using a software such as pianotech or keyscape
The Studiologic GT feels lot better in my opinion
I’ve owned several digital pianos over the years and the reason I keep upgrading is they just keep getting better. The CP88 I purchased brand new last May and the touch and feel compared to an acoustic piano is as real as it gets. Light on the top heavy on the bottom with real wooden keys and synthetic ivory tops. I love this thing. It even has the double strike feature just like a real piano. This is great for faster piano pieces of music.
Thanks for going to the effort of creating a helpful video, it's appreciated! I think in your video, the Nord comes off as sounding more full and realistic, but respectfully, comparing more similar sounds, EQ'ed similarly might have been a better comparison. Still, a nice job, and I appreciated hearing a bit of Chick Corea's 'Spain'.
Just curious if you have tried the Yamaha P-525 or Kawai ES920? I’m trying to decide between those and the Numa X GT for home practice. Thanks!
I think this CP88 has greater action than those 2 combined. I still prefer the Studiologic for the key action.
@@ispianist Unfortunately, I don't agree with you. Yesterday I did an extensive test on Numa x and GT, Yamaha CP88, Nord piano 5, Kawai Mp11 se and ES920 and Yamaha P525 and for me..... the absolute winner (talking about the key action) by a wide margin was the Yamaha P525. Never played an electric piano with such a nice keybed. (GrandTouch S) Felt like I was playing a grand piano. But of course tastes differ
@@user-po6pk2qu4u I haven't tried that particular model yet. I did some research and the Yamaha uses a complete new different keybed. " Grand touch-S" The CP88 got the GH3 in my opinion doesn't have great touch. It does feel like a synthesizer with weighted keys. I will have to try that particular model the P-525
@@ispianist Yes, this keybed is a game changer for me. In fact, it is the first keybed that I am finally, after many years, really enthusiastic about. Thanks for your videos.
Is this to be a family piano or a home studio piano? For the former, I'd buy a home piano with a furniture asect. For the latter I'd buy a Kawai VPC1 and some software.