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@@MarcHunt yes! League 54887. fantasybytissot.letour.fr/#welcome/register/?sponsor_player_code=6n5swxi&league_id=54887

@@PedroSilva-lo1yu agreed. Remco is in great form. He’s also the thinnest I’ve ever seen him.

Long-term, I mean. I think I'll initially trade him for pedersen

I wouldn’t. Make sure you have two. You don’t strictly need three or four (including all rounders like WVA or Girmay), if you’re earning reliable jersey points and breakaway points from others. The place to go aggressive is on breakaway riders

@@JoeFoxJr thx for the tip! i'll only swap pidcock to pedersen then

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Thanks! I really appreciate that. I'm not making any money, and I don't particularly enjoy video production! But I saw a niche where there wasn't any good content, and decided to make the type of videos I wish were available to me a few years ago when I was first starting to play the game.

I don’t mind the concept, but the implementation is not great

Good point. But if they don’t get those breakaway points the game is a bit broken with the OP breakaway points.

@@AllMenMustServe yeah I agree. It would benefit more to have random breakaway riders than real stage winners

@@theroadcaptain we might have our answer today !

@@AllMenMustServe Pogi got breakaway points

@@theroadcaptain yes it says 48km right? So I guess all the other gc riders like Almeida Ayuso Roglic Jonas etc etc got breakaway points too. Because Pogi was only alone at front of the race for like 18-20km

Agree. But it’s his legs on the flat, not in the high mountains. I’m very curious to see how he does on stage 4.

Well said.

Great idea. Agree.

I’m really not sure! I think it depends on what we see in the next two days. I’m thinking about trying to hold my team as is until after stage 4 but may change my mind tomorrow.

so what, its still 3 weeks of racing

@@PazLeBon yeah it is but if you were to have 1 free trade everyday the new rule would make it interesting. With trade restrictions to maximum of 10 for a 21 stage race it is purely luck. People who weren’t lucky enough to choose one of the breakaway guys in the beginning are essentially done.

@@PazLeBon or maybe if you could take a hit on your overall points to make an extra trade. But no, you can make 10 and that’s about it.

@@AllMenMustServe 8 aparently :) cheers

@@AllMenMustServe idont think so, i think those ponts still become a bit irrelevant over 21 stages ..i think so... and heyyy oliviera wasnt pure luck, it was ay least an educated guess which does stand for soemthing, they were 3rd choice sprinters :)

I was right about Abrahamsen… I just didn’t listen to myself!

@@JoeFoxJr would've been such a nice pick. This is my first year doing the fantasy and I feel I've failed to utilise the substitution mechanic! Your swap plan makes so much sense

Yeah, if I’m honest I don’t love it. It was it much more luck-based. It’s hard to play conservatively this year.

Ha, yup! There will be other riders I regret not picking up soon enough, maybe today. I think the big thing will be trying to predict who will be in the most breaks

@@JoeFoxJr do u expect abrahamsen to be in the break again today to solidify the kom jersey or nah?

@@lolekbolek7655 perhaps. I’m not sure it depends on how cooked he is after yesterday. I’d guess he at least attempts it. Holding a jersey is something worth fighting for.

@@JoeFoxJrpls tell me u put him in last minute cuz damn those were a lot of points💀

@@lolekbolek7655 unfortunately no :-(

Congrats! Great pick up with Frank VDB! What do you do now? Try to play conservatively to maintain your high standing, or aggressively trade for more breakaway riders to jump from 26th to first?? :-)

@@JoeFoxJr For now i'll enjoy the jersey points my cheap guys are earning as the number of trades is limited and its hard to predict who'll go into breaks. I'll definitely keep an eye out for stage hunters with good form for the mountains

also many in front of me have Bardet in the team. I expect to overtake them just by solid value play ;) very happy for Bardet the French fans though

@@schniefelus6054 me too. It’s a nice win to watch as a fan of le tour, even if I didn’t have him on my team.

Yeah, not worth picking him up now, IMO. He might lose yellow tomorrow. (Probably will)

@@JoeFoxJr yeah for sure, altho less climbing i sort of expect more of the same tomorrow

There’s surely a way to extract it, but it takes about 60 seconds to do it manually once per day so I’m not ready to put the time into any sort of automation, lol! I copy paste from the website into the stage tab then the spreadsheet sums and tabulates all the data on the front page to make it look nice.

@@JoeFoxJr hm okay. Thanks for your tips and work. Appreciate it a lot because I’m only familiar with the GC riders and its nuances. I know next to nothing about the other riders lol

The stage winner bonus only doubles the stage points not the jersey points. Wout earned 120 stage points and 62 jersey points. (120x2)+62=302

@@JoeFoxJr oh right mb

Putting out a video shortly. Big takeaway: pick up breakaway riders! I like the GC guys, specifically Pogacar for tomorrow's stage. I think WVA is a safe hold.

​@@JoeFoxJr Thank you, i just seen your new video. 👏

Yeah, I’m just accepting that as a risk, but I think it’s a lower risk than planning to pick up vinegars in week one. I think he will be more valuable in week three, if at all. We will see if I’m wrong!

@@JoeFoxJr Thanks for the answer. Eventually went with a similar strategy, but am contemplating an early switch to Vinge before stage 4.

@@rolurios not a bad move. He showed great form yesterday. I’m going to wait to see how he fares tomorrow.

@@JoeFoxJr as switching him in requires two changes in our teams it also comes with a general question. Is it time to balance out the team with low cost high breakout potential guys? Feels like one could go nuts on aggressive drivers, substitute in leaders at the very end and win local leagues by a landslide.

@@rolurios yes. If you think you have a read on who those people are! I think Jonas Abrahamsen is safe, not sure about others. The totalenergies guys don’t have a strong sprinter so they will surely be in the break every day

Sure thing! I recommend joining the discord server I linked in the description. Lots of good discussion about the fantasy league happening over there. Here’s the link to my league (number 54887 on the website): fantasybytissot.letour.fr/#welcome/register/?sponsor_player_code=6n5swxi&league_id=54887

Eh. I don’t think so. He’s got longer odds than Tadej.

This is the million dollar question. It's the first year with breakaway points, and I am very unsure of how much it should sway my picks. I expect there to be a lot of variance, as some people will get lucky and pick good CHEAP riders who end up in the breakaways every day, but I don't think you should pick up EXPENSIVE riders specifically because of breakaway points. I don't know though, it's super interesting! Feel free to join the discussion over on my discord server, we've been talking about this exact topic over there. (discord.gg/hMc9AazT4a, invite code: hMc9AazT4a).

Also, I think the mountain breakaway specialists like Ciccone, Powless, Lenny Martinez, some of the Bahrain guys, etc. etc. will be super valuable in weeks 2/3 but not so much in week 1. Week 1 will have more all-around guys in the breaks.

Yes, I agree with a lot of this. Come join the discussion over on my discord server if you want (discord.gg/hMc9AazT4a, invite code: hMc9AazT4a), we're hashing out a lot of these decisions together over there. I think that I like MVDB over Van Poppel, but I like both, it's close. MVDB won't have to work for a leader at all, where as DVP will be called upon to help Roglic at times. Leaving 5 stars to trade an 18 cost rider for Philipsen ahead of stage 3 or 5 is wise, and something we've been talking about on Discord this morning, lol!

Oh! And also, please please go get those bonus credits! Those extra 100 credits (two trades) are CRITICAL! Even if you miss the quizzes (or score too low), you can instead earn those bonus credits by recruiting a few friends. If you're really desperate, make 5 burner email addresses, and recruit yourself 5 times (you'll need to actually create 5 extra accounts on the fantasy website, but it only takes a couple minutes.

Unsure. Is that something you think people would want to see? I definitely will be posting my trades (and all of my thoughts) in the discussions over on my discord server (discord.gg/hMc9AazT4a, invite code: hMc9AazT4a). Part of the challenge is I will be in France (in Nice!) for second half of the tour so I don't know if I will be able to make videos while traveling. I do have over 50 subscribers now, so I could do some live videos from my phone.

@@JoeFoxJr for casual folk like me who aren't serious enough to join discord, get bogged down in stats, and love a good summation vid (where someone else has done all the hard work 😉), it would be great. I figured there aren't many trades to make and some would come at the same time. Equally assumed those videos wouldn't need to be that long so not too much work to make. I imagine people would be interested in the tactics of trades with the benefit of how things pan out in real time. You are right though, people can just join the discord. Better you enjoy being in the moment in Nice than making videos I reckon. Good work for all the content on it thus far 👍

@@abinley thanks for the feedback, I’ll definitely consider it, especially if I can find a good way to do it via mobile.

@@JoeFoxJr a man of the people!

@@abinley lol I don’t know about that! One challenge will be getting the videos up online early enough to be useful, especially for EU-based folks. I live in the US and usually don’t make my daily decisions until late at night.

Yates is a good pickup but not until he gets ahead, IMO. Excellent question about how the breakaway points will be implemented. I don’t know yet. I’ll look through the terms and conditions

@@JoeFoxJr cool. yates said, paraphrasing, "my job is to be last man standing on the climbs until tadej goes" tricky,, will he then hold position or drop back and rest. i dont think he goes for stage wins tho sooo im 95% locked in now with pogs, rogs and remco and that isnt how i expected it to be :)

@@PazLeBon Yeah I think Yates is a better climber than Roglic right now (look at the Dauphine vs the Tour de Suisse, they were COOKING up those climbs in Suisse. But I think that Roglic will earn more points early, especially with all of these tough stages with a flat finish. Roglic will sprint where Yates won't or can't.

@@JoeFoxJr great minds think alike... watch him fall after 5km haha

I agree with everything you said! I do think one of Remco, Jonas, Roglic will (in hindsight) end up being a good starting pick, but I don’t want to guess on which one right now. I prefer a more conservative strategy of picking up the big guys AFTER they have proven themselves on the road.

Like you said on your previous posts it’s about conservative vs experimental.. wouldn’t you try get as many points in the beginning of the race and then go conservative ? Since conservative means you kind of know exactly who’s in the best form.

@@JoeFoxJr im sort of going by appearence right now which is wierd, rogs looks good and remco looks good, jonas not so much

@@jean-pierrejamieson4683 its hard to predict for sure. if the top 4 teams are all 'safe' then the breaks have more opportuniies

@@PazLeBon yeah but wouldn’t you think you’d score much more points than opponents in the first week of the tour than the rest? Whoever is in yellow after stage one should keep it for a while, so why not try get as many as the favourites for stage one in and then go conservative? Or how would you do it? I wanna finalise my team so that’s why I’m asking these questions

That is exactly what I'm going for. I start with Pogacar, Pidcock, Gee, Williams, Powless, Bettiol, Zimmermann and Arndt. With five stars left I can swap in Philipsen for Pidcock or, if Pidock gets that yellow jersey in Rimini, exchange Williams for van Gils and Gee for Philipsen.

i think pederson would suit stage 1 cos climbs well

I think so, but that’s because I value saving myself a trade. If all goes to plan, Philipsen will be a really good pick from stage 3 to stage 21, so by not starting with him on my roster I’d only be gaining the opportunity to guess on another rider at the start, and I don’t have anyone else I’m super confident in. In short: I like to spend my trades on proven riders, and no one has proven themselves yet, so I’m saving myself a trade by picking him up at the start. This is a conservative, though perhaps suboptimal, strategy.

MVDP is a good option for stage 9. I'm definitely planning to swap him with Philipsen just for this stage. 😉

cavo has like one match to light

I discussed them all in my rider evaluation video. In short: I think Cav will win a stage but is not a good fantasy pick yet, too uncertain and he won’t be going for green (likely). Coquard is a good pickup if you want a cheaper sprinter, he was the second best points/cost sprinter last year because he’s consistent, even if he doesn’t win much. MVDP is one of the guys who MIGHT win stage 1… but he’s too much of a gamble. He is historically a bad fantasy league pick as he is priced so high but often scores almost no points. Last year he was ranked 118th on points per cost… plus this year he will be preparing for the Olympics not going all out for the tour.

@@PazLeBon lol yep!

Atleast with Cav we know that he will try and sprint every single time when it’s a sprinting stage.. Cav is the best when he isn’t spoken about like this year

I do, we’ve been having discussion on this topic over in my discord server. Come join the discussion. Nikias Arndt is my favorite at the minute.

Pick a rider from a Continental pro team ( not a World tour team ) ( this means TotalEnergie , Lotto-Dstny etc ... ) they basically go on Advertising breakout even without any chance of winning , because they desperately needs this exposure/money . And this year there are Point given for each km in the breakout .

@@benjaminduval6237 yes good strat. That’s why Grellier is my second pick for 5-cost riders.

Nice. I think one or two sprinters, especially versatile ones, are worth it. I haven’t decided my roster yet, but I know for sure I will have Pog and Phillipsen

@@JoeFoxJr i meant first 3 days haha. the points are interesting, riders that get in breaks for 100km can score huge. im sure we can find one or two? maybe cheap riders like bardet or costa as the big guns typically wont get in those breaks

@@PazLeBon I’m expecting someone like Cort or Ciccone or Geschke to be valued higher than normal this year for exactly this reason!

@@JoeFoxJr u mentioned Cort somewhere else too so seems one you might regret NOT having if he hauls :)

Tough to say. I suggest a middle cost sprinter for weeks one and two. Maybe Cav. Maybe Ackerman. Or maybe just go for a risky pick like Magnus Cort, who will be in some breakaways and might have a chance on stage 1. Longer term, pick the best climber for that cost, based on how they do in week one.

I've got more recommendations in my discord server (link in the description), but I like Magnus Cort the most probably. Followed by Williams, Powless, Cav, Haig, Healy, Van Gils, Coquard, Lenny Martinez, Wright, Poels, Bettiol, Gregoire, Neilands, DVP, MVDB, Lapeira, and Zimmerman.

If you can afford 16, Ciccone is an excellent pick.

Yup, though it’s fairly small at the minute. I’m expecting more people to join soon. The league info is posted in my discord server (link in description)

@@JoeFoxJr i dont use discord, why notpost on here?

@@PazLeBon not everything posted in discord can be posted in the description of each video. The league I created isn’t my top focus so I didn’t think it was necessary to post here. But I’m happy to share it here if you want it. I’ll dig up the link shortly.

@@PazLeBon league number 54887. fantasybytissot.letour.fr/#welcome/register/?sponsor_player_code=6n5swxi&league_id=54887

@@JoeFoxJr well done man ;)