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The Indigenous Slavs of Germany - Meet the Sorbians
These interviews show personal views of speakers of Sorbian on what life is like when the own native language is endangered. Sorbian is a west-slavic language and therefore shows structural similarities to Polish, Czech and Slovak.
Less than 30.000 speakers remain, living mostly in Upper Lusatia in Saxony, with Bautzen as the center of the Upper Sorbian Dialect. A fraction of Sorbian-speakers speaks the Lower Sorbian dialect, with its center in Cottbus in Brandenburg, making Lower Sorbian one of the most endangered languages of Europe.
A Sorbian state was never established, though pan-slavic movements during the cold war proposed such a state, or perhaps an integration into the Czech Republic. Instead, Sorbian history was always tied to the history of the Germans, whether as part of the Holy-Roman Empire, the German Empire or East Germany.
A decisive decline in Sorbian speakers occurred due to the protestant reformation. While most of Saxony, subsequently most of the Sorbians, converted to Protestantism, only a small area in western Lusatia, remained catholic. Martin Luther himself hated the Sorbian culture, and the protestant church served as a space for Germanization, while the catholic church served as a space for language conservation.
The triangle of Kamjenc - Kamenz, Bautzen - Budyšin and Wittichenau - Kulow, remains the area in which most Sorbian can be found up to this day. I found churches in this area to feature monolingual Sorbian signage at times too.
The main decline however started with industrialization and the unification of Germany. 250 years ago, the language was still widely spoken, yet centralization of not only the economy, but the formation of a nation state under the ideals of a unified people, enforced Germanization even further. This shows how the construct of a national language follows political borders, not the reality of speakers.
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  • @ppn194
    @ppn194 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The Slavs did not have an ancient region inthe Carpathians.

  • @Viniciuss000
    @Viniciuss000 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The sorbs are not natives from germany!

  • @LilyVain
    @LilyVain หลายเดือนก่อน

    *Hello Sorbian brothers from Macedonians !* 🇲🇰❤️💋

  • @Master-vv4gn
    @Master-vv4gn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video

  • @whiro8945
    @whiro8945 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kia ora from your Māori family 👋🏻

  • @robertab929
    @robertab929 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Próba utworzenia w 1919 roku własnego, łużyckiego państwa ściśle związanego z Czechosłowacją, zakończyła się niepowodzeniem. Na Kongresie Wersalskim Edvard Benesz w imieniu Czechosłowacji postulował przyłączenie Łużyc do tego kraju. Za tym samym rozwiązaniem lub za autonomią w ramach Niemiec wypowiedział się przywódca Łużyczan Arnoszt Bart, jednak delegacji łużyckiej na Konferencję Wersalską nawet nie dopuszczono. Po II wojnie światowej działacze łużyccy podzielili się na trzy opcje; Domowina, kierowana przez Pawoła Nedę, dążyła do autonomii w ramach państwa niemieckiego; Łużycko-Serbski Komitet Narodowy w Pradze zabiegał o przyłączenie do Czechosłowacji, natomiast grupa, która w latach trzydziestych studiowała w Polsce m. in. działacze narodowi Wójciech Kóczka, Pawoł Nowotny, Anton Nawka oraz współpracujący z Polakami na terenie Niemiec Jurij Cyż, chciała oprzeć niepodległe Łużyce o Polskę. Utworzyli oni w Budziszynie Serbołużycką Radę Narodową i Serbołużycki Komitet - rząd kierowany przez Jurija Cyża. W 1945 działacze łużyccy podzielili się na trzy opcje; Domowina, kierowana przez Pawoła Nedę, dążyła do autonomii w ramach państwa niemieckiego; Łużycko-Serbski Komitet Narodowy w Pradze zabiegał o przyłączenie do Czechosłowacji, natomiast grupa, która w latach trzydziestych studiowała w Polsce m. in. działacze narodowi Wójciech Kóczka, Pawoł Nowotny, Anton Nawka oraz współpracujący z Polakami na terenie Niemiec Jurij Cyż, chciała oprzeć niepodległe Łużyce o Polskę. Utworzyli oni w Budziszynie Serbołużycką Radę Narodową i Serbołużycki Komitet - rząd kierowany przez Jurija Cyża. Początkowo czechosłowaccy komuniści poparli żądania Łużycko-Serbskiego Komitetu Narodowyego. Po przejściu władzy w Czechosłowacji przez komunistów akcja prołużycka musiała ulec zakończeniu wobec negatywnego stosunku Stalina do idei wyodrębnienia Łużyc.

    • @septimijemacvanin8084
      @septimijemacvanin8084 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Morate da shvatite, Germani nikada nece dopustiti da se stvori Druga Srpska Drzava..... Mi Srbi s Balkana smo od 1914 u ratu s Nemackom i josh nismo potpisali nikakav mirovni ugovor s njima.Tako da ste tehnicki vi deo Srpskog naroda koji trazi prekrajanje granica Nemacke i to je problem za Berlin. Morate da shvatite ozbiljno,mi Srbi smo u permanentnom sukobu s njima i tu nema pregovora i dogovora

  • @holger_p
    @holger_p 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm born in the area, and never met one speaking sorbian all my life. All the street signs are in dual language, I don't know for whom or for what. I think the language is kept up artificially and nobody speaks it at home. When you listen to speakers on videos, you notice it never feels very fluid, more like a language you learned in school with very exakt articulation. It's impossible to survive in Germany without speaking german. The former idea of "if you stick to your village all your life, you theoreticlly could, if we make all the signs bilingual". But today people like to travel. They don't even work in their village.

  • @alistairknox5381
    @alistairknox5381 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Prussian paternal great grandfather emigrated to London from Gross Libolye(Lubolz), Spreewald. 1926 Canadian shipping register entry also stated he spoke German, bit puzzling that he used the Sorb name, so maybe he also spoke Sorb like his Lutheran forefathers. I hadn't known about German West Slavs till l investigated my secretive grandmother's German origins(her mother was daughter of immigrants also, evidently from eastern Germany, possibly part Yiddish). I see a lot of German surnames look Slavic, even prominent Nazis: the 'ke' suffix rather common as in my grandmother's Noschke, same as the Polish/Russian 'ky' or 'ki'. Among Poles the 'ky' indicates Catholic, 'ki' Jewish so an Israeli friend of Polish origin with the wrong suffix told me(his surname was supposed to end with 'ki'). Another surprise on my mother's side: paternal Coetzer(originally Kutza) Afrikaner grandmother descended from Sudetenland ancestor from Zakupy/Reichstadt near Prague(Czech).

    • @ekesandras1481
      @ekesandras1481 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ramelow, Kretschmer, Kretschmann, Kubicky, Chrupalla, Bystron, Ryglewski, Luksic, Kowalski, Schimanski, Kubitschek, ...

  • @Reytan-e8x
    @Reytan-e8x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    German attitude here against the Serbs is extremely aggressive.

  • @robertab929
    @robertab929 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe partial solution. Sorbians could go to university in Czechia or Poland.

  • @robertab929
    @robertab929 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is weird that interviews were made in the language of the oppressor (German).

    • @СергейПичайкин
      @СергейПичайкин 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Так они все свободно говорят на немецком и намного чаще чем на сорбском!сорбский для них как факультатив...они очень сильно онемечены и немецкий для них родной язык а сербский это дань традиции и повыделываться!

    • @robertab929
      @robertab929 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@СергейПичайкин Szkoda, że po II wojnie światowej Łużyce nie były przyłączone do Czechosłowacji. Miałyby wówczas największą szansę na utrzymanie języka. Zresztą Serbołużyczanie chcieli być przyłączeni do Czechosłowacji, albo Polski, ale Stalin się nie zgodził.

    • @СергейПичайкин
      @СергейПичайкин 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robertab929 ни тогда не тем более сейчас они не хотели ни в Чехию ни в Польшу!все это были хотелки и мечты лужицкой интеллигенции! После создания германской империи в 1870 ассимиляция лужичан пошла в геометрической прогрессии! На рубеже 19-20 веков произошёл массовый переход сорбов на немецкий язык! Число активных носителей сербского языка у верхних лужичан 20000 человек , у нижних лужичан 6000человек

    • @robertab929
      @robertab929 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@СергейПичайкин Próba utworzenia w 1919 roku własnego, łużyckiego państwa ściśle związanego z Czechosłowacją, zakończyła się niepowodzeniem. Na Kongresie Wersalskim Edvard Benesz w imieniu Czechosłowacji postulował przyłączenie Łużyc do tego kraju. Za tym samym rozwiązaniem lub za autonomią w ramach Niemiec wypowiedział się przywódca Łużyczan Arnoszt Bart, jednak delegacji łużyckiej na Konferencję Wersalską nawet nie dopuszczono.

    • @robertab929
      @robertab929 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@СергейПичайкин Po II wojnie światowej działacze łużyccy podzielili się na trzy opcje; Domowina, kierowana przez Pawoła Nedę, dążyła do autonomii w ramach państwa niemieckiego; Łużycko-Serbski Komitet Narodowy w Pradze zabiegał o przyłączenie do Czechosłowacji, natomiast grupa, która w latach trzydziestych studiowała w Polsce m. in. działacze narodowi Wójciech Kóczka, Pawoł Nowotny, Anton Nawka oraz współpracujący z Polakami na terenie Niemiec Jurij Cyż, chciała oprzeć niepodległe Łużyce o Polskę. Utworzyli oni w Budziszynie Serbołużycką Radę Narodową i Serbołużycki Komitet - rząd kierowany przez Jurija Cyża.

  • @Ultima-Signa
    @Ultima-Signa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems to be that the creator of this video (or video title) has a misunderstanding of what ˋindigenousˋ means. Being a migratory people who migrated to that region (although granted old migrants from the early medieval ages) after other peoples already have lived there natively is not what indigenous means. Their culture is also Catholic Christian which they have gotten from German missionaries. And also those ˋslavsˋ nowadays are completely mixed with Germans and were actually about to stop existing at all until the East German government started funds to stop the downhill trend, which the reunified Germany continued after 1990, until today.

    • @holger_p
      @holger_p 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you are strict, there is no indegenious people in the world anywhere. They all migrated (from the east african rift valley). Consider idingenous as beeing there since 1000 years. Is that enough ? Or lets say more than 10 generations ? Many other cultures in Germany got lost, or are kept for touristic reasons, like robes, festivals etc. But that's just called "german tribes" and this label is not applicable to the sorbs. Since this is not touristic, it's actually very much alive. People do it for themselves, not for anybody to watch.

  • @ragnarostbrok1254
    @ragnarostbrok1254 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    digga warum sitzt da ne frau mit bart

  • @kalumander
    @kalumander 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's not "sir-bee-yan", but "sore-bee-yan".

  • @WontArgueWithOneOnwards
    @WontArgueWithOneOnwards 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SERBNISČA! SERBNISČA! NEMETSKA! NEMETSKA! DIFFERENT FAMILIES ONE BLOOD

    • @Kandy1343
      @Kandy1343 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi lol

  • @lunaotto8839
    @lunaotto8839 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi! I‘m from Bórkowy near Chóśebuz! Thank you for bringing attention to us Sorbs!

  • @incognito3089
    @incognito3089 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see that a lot of people are arguing in rhe comments about the origins of the sorabs. Some are saying that they are names sorabs/sorbs and not serbs. The language used here is in english. When you study the origins of populations, you study the etymology of their name in their language. Sorabs in their language, if i am not mistaken, call themselves serb- (i am taking directly the roots) and serbs srb-. In the other slavic languages serbs are called serb- with the e. And even without that you can make the link. So why do they have the same name? You can search it ln the internet if you do not believe it but it s because they are from the same tribe. Historians agree on that. The serbs settled in the north and where the sorabs are actually, they moved after to the balkan for byzantin. Some of them stayed. Now are they the same people? I think its a subjective decision. Language: it s not the same for sure but even sorbs have divisions as the serbs have. The dialects are proper to a region or a city. In serbia technically its the belgrad dialect that took the spotlight because its an important city and where people could study in the past. But in some cities u can still here a little of dialects if its not an important one. But they still consider themselves as the same even though some ppl speaking the (belgrade dialect) can make fun of the ones that sometimes have like an accent or else. Genetic. Its normal to have the genetic influence from where u are located. As the sorabs have the genetic of the north, serbs have the genetic of the balkan but some of them have still traces of northern slavic genetics(as in my family). Before the serbs tribe arrived where the sorabs are today(from the main theory saying serbs come from caucasius) they didnt have that genetic, it was completely different. Now still its the main theory but maybe the truth is something else. Culture. As the language and genetics, your culture and religion is influenced on your surroundings. As in every group population, the culture on the north is different than the one in the south, maybe completely, maybe not. What can be said for Slavic ppl in general is that the conservation of their culture is really impressive and especially in the balkan because they were under the ottomans. Serbs are not only in Serbia but in Bosnia, North macedonia, Croatia which makes them have a lot of different clothes, but you can find a lot similarities with the other slavics. So from my perspective, I don't think we should divide the two because they kept a name and I dont think its for nothing. Like sure they are different but you can be part of the same population and be different. The language is not a barrier. I know serbs that don't understand the southern dialects and would more understand the sorbians ones lmao. I think for serbs, learning about sorbs culture would be like a serb from south serbia learning the custome of the serbs from Croatia. So I would see it like the ones who stayed and the ones who left. And then keeping and creating ttaditions. It would be really interesting to see what we have in common and after to compare it with the other slavics. It can help retrace the origins of some traditions and to determine what was specific or no to who or what is more common that we thought. In any case, I send love to all the «serbi» and hope we can get along and share more to learn about ourselves.

  • @LaraDankovic
    @LaraDankovic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😅 uci srpski svabo jer si od Srba postao

  • @LaraDankovic
    @LaraDankovic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Srbicu su ocigledno odavno zaboravili😢😢 ovaj divan Srpski narod izmenjene fizionomien❤❤naselili su zapadnu evropu i uneli dosta Srpskog u mentalitetu i uzrecicima...

  • @doraemon402
    @doraemon402 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never accept the imposed language from outside AT ALL. Little by little they've made you into almost nothing and the acceptance that you are German whatsoever is part of the plan, the plan to destroy you and adapt you into being German.

  • @SerbskiUkrainer
    @SerbskiUkrainer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They established "Serbin" in Texas, not "Sorbin".

  • @gletcher4300
    @gletcher4300 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wer ist das, das rechts sitzt? Frau oder Mann, entweder etwas Drittes?

  • @EgonKowalski-s4n
    @EgonKowalski-s4n 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    His pronunciation still is very german

  • @anonymousxxx9513
    @anonymousxxx9513 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:10 Ach du Schei*e, schon bluten meine Ohren.😂 Wer glaubt, dass Sorbisch seine Hauptsprache ist, wird wohl selig.

  • @morvil73
    @morvil73 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Lusatia” is pronounced “LoossAEsha” [luːˈseɪʃə] in English.

  • @thebegungler7333
    @thebegungler7333 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorbs are not indigenous, they migrated to the region in the middle ages, just like the other West Slavs.

    • @NotraceOfRay
      @NotraceOfRay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well yes, but at what point in history do you draw the line? The germans came later and i say that as a german living and having been born in the Lausitz.

    • @thebegungler7333
      @thebegungler7333 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NotraceOfRay Germanic tribes settled the area in 100 BC, 700 years before any Slavs lived there. Germans are the closest to what we could call indigenous to the area.

    • @cyclonewehner3778
      @cyclonewehner3778 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are an indigenous minority, people don't understand the term. Hopefully it will be formally recognised soon

    • @fredengels8188
      @fredengels8188 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thebegungler7333 and the celts?

    • @thebegungler7333
      @thebegungler7333 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fredengels8188 Celts lived just south of this area, in Bohemia. But they didn't live north of Bohemia.

  • @molecatcher3383
    @molecatcher3383 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is This comedy ?

    • @happyfelix1440
      @happyfelix1440 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ???

    • @molecatcher3383
      @molecatcher3383 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@happyfelix1440 A drag show comedy ?

  • @michaelbildstein4895
    @michaelbildstein4895 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Es ist für einen muttersprachlichen Schwaben eine sehr schwer zu erlernende Sprache, aber es lohnt sich der Versuch es zu erlernen. Sorbisch ist eine elegante schöne Sprache mit einer extrem reichen Kultur. Luby rjana Łužica.

  • @1114-j7o
    @1114-j7o 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is amazing that girl and guy are without any makeup typically Slav white, red hair-beard and blue-green eyed people. So proud at you, greetings from Serbia.

    • @Andrei-ev7du
      @Andrei-ev7du 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Slavs look diverse depend of etnic grup, a serb look total diferent from a sorb, sorbs look much north european(light hair,light eyes, are tall, aslo serbs especially from west Serbia are tall but that is only a phisical feature ,similarity)

    • @1114-j7o
      @1114-j7o 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Andrei-ev7du Bro, all Slavic tribes was ONE once before split, variations are many due Slavic adaptive temperament so we mix with other tribes true. Yet as i recall we had that typical red/brown hair and blue/green eyes. With incursions of various conquerors proto-germanic, nordish, tatar, mongol we lost some of protoslavic setup in colors of body, yet if u look at DNA table of Europe youll see all is as it was 2k years ago. Not to mention that Slavic dna is so strong that we saw all those conquerors wanted exactly our Blood either on thrones or at various borders, as leaders or soldiers. How else we could explain all those Slavs all over Europe!? We certanly didnt migrated in 6th century as Germanic tribes said! :)

    • @Andrei-ev7du
      @Andrei-ev7du 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@1114-j7o Slavs were young etnic grup, how you say that they have red hair 😂😂😂 red hair is rare everywhere in the world even in Ireland and Scotland is rare ,slavs are sarmatians who have litle nordic(germanic and baltic )cultural influences, now not exist slavic culture o genetic

    • @1114-j7o
      @1114-j7o 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Andrei-ev7du Bro if you dont believe me, you can always check facts like dna and colors among Slavic tribes. Because TOPONYMS, DNA and ROCK tell no lies when inscripted in. What you mean btw we are "young" we are older then most tribes in Europe?!

    • @Andrei-ev7du
      @Andrei-ev7du 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@1114-j7o No , slavs are not older, they are young than germanic,latin,finnic and baltic peoples , slavic Dna not exist,is sarmatian DNA, some slavs like north poles ,belarussians bohemian czechs not have this DNA like ukrainians o slovaks,south west russians ,south est poles o croats,bulgarians etc

  • @goranbras4767
    @goranbras4767 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zašti ne govoriš Srpski ,verboten ?😂

  • @ЗоранХулк
    @ЗоранХулк 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a solution!Similar to "kosovo" isue,German,Poland and Chezh goverments emediatly to recognize Luzatia! Greatings from Serbia🇷🇸

    • @phartbay327
      @phartbay327 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most people in Lusatia are germans, tho. Different situation than in Kosovo

    • @ЗоранХулк
      @ЗоранХулк 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@phartbay327 so was on Kosovo, etnic cleansing was comited against Searbs in Kosovo in Last 70 years, Searbs was leaving Kosovo unther presure during komunist and Albanians

    • @phartbay327
      @phartbay327 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ЗоранХулк And that's terrible! No one deserves that

  • @ЗоранХулк
    @ЗоранХулк ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorbs ARE Searbs! Lusatian Searbs are our ancestors(our direct relatives),Balkan Searbs🇷🇸, we came from them before 1300-1400 years ago.But much before that, WE came together in central Euorpe from delta of river Volga... Because of that,some arheologist (specialy from Rusia),think that we have Sarmatian dnk...

    • @Andrei-ev7du
      @Andrei-ev7du 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorbs are nordic genetically, they are light haired,light eyed,tall etc not look sarmatian like south est slavs, sarmatians lived in Ukraine and south west Russia, sorbs come from north Poland anf west Belarus, they were slavized north europeans, their traditions,culture etc is very diferent from serbian o ukrainian culture

    • @ЗоранХулк
      @ЗоранХулк 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Andrei-ev7du you can not relay on color of a hair or eyes and to specify nation.We on Balkan also have a huge number of people with light hair and blue,green eyes...like my self.Only scandinavians and other "north" nation can separate by color of skin,hair and eyes...Also south Slavs are one of the tallest nations, do some resarch. They mixed with other slavic tribes, same as we mixed here on Balkan with Ilirians...so pure nation,with no mixes are hard to find...

    • @Andrei-ev7du
      @Andrei-ev7du 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ЗоранХулк Sorbs come from north est Poland region and are slavized balts(nordic peoples) they are not est europeans in nothing

    • @ЗоранХулк
      @ЗоранХулк 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Andrei-ev7du nordic?...and why they dont speak swedish or finish, or danmark...then?

    • @ЗоранХулк
      @ЗоранХулк 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Andrei-ev7du then Pols are balts too?

  • @draganpaunovic-l7r
    @draganpaunovic-l7r ปีที่แล้ว

    Северна браћа Срби.Све сте асимилари што сте могли на вама својстен начин.Воли вас Србин са КиМ.❤❤❤❤❤

    • @goranbras4767
      @goranbras4767 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oni su vaspitani da sa nama nemaju veze ,ja sam nemačkog porekla i osećam srpski identitet a oni mrze Srbe ,tako su vaspitani ,vidiš da ne smeju svoj srpski jezik govoriti !Čak i ne komuniciraju sa nama ovde na portalu ili retko ,skoro nikada!

    • @ЗоранХулк
      @ЗоранХулк 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@goranbras4767Primetio sam,👍.Imao sam nekoliko konverzacija, ali ostali,većina su tako ispranog mozga da je prosto tužno...ne znati istoriju

  • @draganpaunovic-l7r
    @draganpaunovic-l7r ปีที่แล้ว

    Наша Сеерна браћа.Срби.❤❤❤

  • @PeachPlastic
    @PeachPlastic ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sad that my own sorbian cultural heritage is lost on me, because my sorbian great-grandparents did not teach the language to their children after the persecution. My grandmother grew up in the Spreewald with the traditional clothing and some of the ritual practices and folklore, but after the family relocated and scattered, most of the already repressed culture was lost. Only splinters remain. Having been moved to the Northwest of Germany ever since I first went to school, I have always felt somewhat estranged and lost. It's a strangely lost piece of my identity; I don't know if it can ever be recovered. If I traveled East to learn about the traditions, I would feel like a tourist. I'm not sure how to compensate for that.

    • @ЗоранХулк
      @ЗоранХулк 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes you can, if you have a strong will...you can

    • @cyclonewehner3778
      @cyclonewehner3778 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorbian culture is enjoying a renaissance. There is even rap. There are summer language programs. But we need to ensure there is no more erasure

    • @123skillax
      @123skillax 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      my friend i am a bulgarian, my girlfriend a serb which is a tribe of the sorbs as we call it as you may know that we slavs have loads off tribes , and my girlfriend came to germany to study so i followed suit and honestly i also feel lost here, i am thinking if returning home but its been 2-3 yeara now so i also feel like i will be a tourist. best thng you can do is go there and maybe even settle. especially since you guys are endangered !

    • @Ultima-Signa
      @Ultima-Signa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am saying this as someone of that regional Slavic ancestry myself: Assimilating yourself is not persecution. And not being able to speak your own language that much anymore due to the state you live and the bigger community around you and traders speaking a different language is not being repressed. It’s only natural and happened everywhere, even to Germans in Eastern Europe and elsewhere. Be truthful and stop spreading misinformation. The German governments granted the Slavs autonomous rights already in medieval times and even do support sorb culture and community with a lot of tax payer money. Even the natzis been fairly tolerant (until the 1940s when they started a germanization campaign). And the natzi time was the only time there has been a discrimination and repression. But even they did not persecute them. That’s a reach. It should be your first duty to actually learn about Sorbian history after you found out about Sorb ancestry, and to be truthful about sorbian history. Also what rituals?? Sorbs are proud Catholics. Catholicism was proud to Sorbs via Germans….

    • @Ultima-Signa
      @Ultima-Signa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@cyclonewehner3778There’s no erasure and never has been (except during last 5 years of natzi government)… don’t just blindly believe anything that some people tell you because they like to generalize natzi rule with all of german history… funny thing is that there’s actually repression of other non-majority native cultures in countries such as Poland and other Slavic countries so no idea why some people from those countries cry out so much about something like that (which they made up)… ( Poland literally came to be by annexing Slavic and Baltic neighbors and making them polish). Those programs and summer camps or the revival in general you are referring to are literally a thing because of the support of the German government. You even have Germans nowadays searching for their slavicness and learning Sorbian language due to some sorbian ancestor of a few centuries ago that they recently found out about… so no idea what supposed erasure you’re referring to..?

  • @dijalog6284
    @dijalog6284 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bissmarck's grandmother was Serbian and it is not true that they arrived in the sixth or seventh century.

    • @Andrei-ev7du
      @Andrei-ev7du 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorb not serb

    • @mmr1137
      @mmr1137 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Andrei-ev7duWe on the Balkans are south Sorbs

  • @piotrsupski354
    @piotrsupski354 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Sorbs were not Lechites, but Serbs. Lower Lysatia with Cottbus even more. The western Lechites are, more to the north, the Wieleci and Obodrites, the central Lechites, still today the Kashubians, are Pomerania, and the eastern Lechites are called the Polish ones. Poland left with the Duchy of Lithuania for Ruthenia and Lithuania, leaving Silesia and the Lower Silesian dialect died out due to assimilation with Germans. Also during the partitions, when Russia gave autonomy to Masovia, there was a risk of the Eastern Lechites separating from Krakow and Poznań, as before from Silesia, which would result in the separation of these regions from Poland, as happened with Silesia, and today the Silesians are lost with their identity because they actually belong to the group of Eastern languages. Lechites, while Kashubia is a separate Lechitic language from Polish

    • @Andrei-ev7du
      @Andrei-ev7du 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Serbian troll? sorbs are their own grup , genetically are similar to north polish peoples and aslo to baltic and skandinavian peoples, not serbs, they are even distant from serbs genetically like are distant from french 😂😂😂

    • @Mulmgott
      @Mulmgott 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Andrei-ev7du Bro what do you expect from Serbs. They claim that Albanians come from the caucasus mountain range and that they were in the Balkans before us. Even though 60% of our vocabulary comes from Latin because we were romanized very early on in history. Dont try to make sense of their historic revisionism. Southern Slavs are crazy when it comes to that. Just look at northern Macedonias supposed "history".

    • @LucianI-s7z
      @LucianI-s7z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Andrei-ev7du polish people are mongol have nothing to do with pure arian race.

    • @LilyVain
      @LilyVain หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Mulmgott Shush Arnaut u come from mountains primitive people or from Arabia Azerbaijan 🐐 😂 *Get out from Macedonian land* 🇲🇰☦️🦁

  • @osamiremeqeneshqiptare8222
    @osamiremeqeneshqiptare8222 ปีที่แล้ว

    In 6cenuty slavs was there , after in 7 u imigration in balkan 😂😂😂😂

    • @zule2098
      @zule2098 ปีที่แล้ว

      Serbs are 80% dna autochthonous people on balkan and Albanians are only 10%.

    • @Mulmgott
      @Mulmgott 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zule2098 Absolutely bonkers claim. Research with less bias next time pls.

    • @LilyVain
      @LilyVain หลายเดือนก่อน

      Arnauts get out from *Macedonian land* 🇲🇰☦️🦁👑☀️ Meeee

  • @daniel89ph
    @daniel89ph ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that in a case of Sorbians a good example of some political solutions could be the hungarian model of local authonomy of national minorities self-governing local councils. That could be the way of certain political self-expression.

    • @holger_p
      @holger_p 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, it's not a regional thing, it's too mixed. The idea of putting one people into one area is overcome and outdated. Think on palestine, they try your model.

  • @daniel89ph
    @daniel89ph ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work! I would also research whether there are still certain differences in mentality between Germans and Sorbians.

    • @cyclonewehner3778
      @cyclonewehner3778 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      East Germans are different to West even now and Sorbs are definitely different culturally

  • @Darkdarkdark123
    @Darkdarkdark123 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing I would like to ask is whay Sorb's,whay not Polish or Russian or Chek's or Slovak's? Don't take me wrong I love fakt that thay have that name becouse I am Serbian...I whish all the best to all good people in this world incuded Sorb's.

  • @pepamethodman
    @pepamethodman ปีที่แล้ว

    They are Serbs, the term Sorb is a mock german exonym.

    • @holger_p
      @holger_p 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are racist, if you deny the existence of people.

  • @Katafrakt_
    @Katafrakt_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro be looking like the custom character in a video game cutscene.

  • @CzowiekWojny
    @CzowiekWojny ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for these interviews!

  • @MilaJovic-gw4ti
    @MilaJovic-gw4ti ปีที่แล้ว

    Srbi su namelijk zapadnu eropuit i najstarija su zemljs Europe. Nekima smeta to da su Srbi zauzeli predivnu lokaciju Tada su mogli da biraju. Tu su doslu pre zisusa Hrista. Bili su jedini.... da biraju

  • @Боба-г5ч
    @Боба-г5ч ปีที่แล้ว

    You mean Serbian. Why Sorbian!?

    • @user-sn6dw8iu1j
      @user-sn6dw8iu1j ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorben sind keine Serben sind je nach Region genetisch und sprachlich mehr mit Polen oder Tschechen verwandt

    • @PeachPlastic
      @PeachPlastic ปีที่แล้ว

      No, Sorbs are an indigenous Slavic tribe that has settled in Germany. Serbia is a separate country with its own people. Sorbian and Serbian are different from one another.

  • @jk.hygftrtjghv-rm2rc
    @jk.hygftrtjghv-rm2rc ปีที่แล้ว

    Brandenburg is A town in Kentucky. This town is kinda ass cheeks or at least some of the people are. I heard that some high schoolers bark at each other like dogs. It's expected I would rather live in hell and let my eyeballs melt out of my skull from the scorching flames, than live in Brandenburg out in Kentucky. A small town 45 minutes away from Louisville Kentucky that is full of drama, cheaters, stds, and liers. It has nothing to do and it never changes. There are always parties, drinking, and fighting because it is widely known about Tesla's Serbian and American roots In World of Warcraft when you completely ignore all mechanics and just keep nuking the boss, regardless of how much shit you put the healers through.

    • @jk.hygftrtjghv-rm2rc
      @jk.hygftrtjghv-rm2rc ปีที่แล้ว

      In World of Warcraft when you completely ignore all mechanics and just keep nuking the boss, regardless of how much shit you put the healers through.

  • @nikolazuzic
    @nikolazuzic ปีที่แล้ว

    There is no ,,sorbs,, but only Serbs .

  • @agj6022
    @agj6022 ปีที่แล้ว

    NOT indigenous Slavs (slavs is vatican invention).... YES< YES and YES indigenous S E R B S

  • @miroman6860
    @miroman6860 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorbian = Serbian

    • @RacerA8
      @RacerA8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah

    • @miroman6860
      @miroman6860 ปีที่แล้ว

      @RacerA8 to German not but all Slavic nations know the truth: Dresden, Leipzig...Spreewald..."Berlin=Barlin" = was Slavic land

    • @RacerA8
      @RacerA8 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miroman6860 i know I live in the Lausitz a Germanic Slavic part of germany