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How To Write Music - Emotion In Tonality
We talk about ways to assign meaning to tonal intervals and chord relationships. We also look at strategies for thickening chords while maintaining consonance.
Documents used in video:
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"Cordillera" - Carl Irwin
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MuseScore Studio / Muse Sounds rendering of "Cordillera" for orchestra.
Carl Irwin - Film Score Demo Reel
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A film score demo reel featuring diverse scoring samples.
MuseScore 4 Mock Up - Real Time Tutorial
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By request, I walk you through mock up strategies for MuseScore 4 on a short orchestral piece. This one is long... grab a cup of coffee. CONTENTS: 0:00 Finished Product 1:11 Introduction 3:06 Observe Issues 7:34 1 Balance 18:07 2 Breathing 32:29 3 Tone 53:31 4 Special Dynamics 1:36:04 5 Irregularities 1:47:42 Final Check 1:49:00 Final Thoughts
MuseScore 4 Jack Branch - Film Score Demonstration
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I demonstrate a real film score project using the Jack Transport Pull Request Branch of MuseScore Studio 4.
"A Treasure Hidden" Piano Roll
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A piano roll view of "A Treasure Hidden" Mockup created from MuseScore 4 using Muse Sounds.
MuseScore 4 and Muse Sounds - Mocking Up 2
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We look at layering additional sounds and synths to help support the orchestra and create detailed highlights.
MuseScore 4 Jack - Working Setup
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This is my system and specifications for using the MuseScore 4 Jack Transport pull request project with Ardour.
Simple Orchestral Mastering (MuseScore 4 / Muse Sounds)
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We look at the basics of mastering a well mixed render.
MuseScore 4 and Muse Sounds - Mocking Up
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We look at essential techniques for creating realistic mock-ups in MuseScore 4 with Muse Sounds.
A Little MuseScore 4 Electronica
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Some simple electronic music using a handful of sounds available in MuseScore 4.
"Tiny Speedster" Titles Piano Roll - Carl Irwin
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Mock up instrumentation from Muse Sounds an the MuseScore 4 play engine. Piano roll visual from Qtractor MIDI sequencer.
"Coldwater II" - MuseScore 4 Muse Sounds Mockup
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This is a scroll of the playback file for one of my recent symphonic works "Coldwater II"
MuseScore 4 Pop Cover Walk-Through
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We take a look at the project files for a cover of the Dave Clark Five tune "Because".
"Because" Cover - MuseScore 4 & Synth V
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PRODUCTION PROCESS MuseScore 4: - Arrangement - Export instrumental track, as mixed in M4 Synthesizer V: - Import MIDI voice track / Set Phonetic Lyrics - Export 2 contrasting iterations of "Justin" voice bank Audacity Mixing: - Mix vocal iterations - Apply compression distortion and reverb effects to vocal track - Mix instrumental and enveloped vocal track - Apply reverse reverb effect to intr...
Musescore 4 Muse Brass - Comparison
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Musescore 4 Muse Brass - Comparison
"A Topsail Vista" - Musescore 4 Walk-Through (Tutorial)
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"A Topsail Vista" - Musescore 4 Walk-Through (Tutorial)
"A Topsail Vista" - Carl Irwin
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"A Topsail Vista" - Carl Irwin
MuseScore 4 Multi-Session Sync with Jack! (Re-Upload)
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MuseScore 4 Multi-Session Sync with Jack! (Re-Upload)
A Merry Chase
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A Merry Chase
Musescore 4 Jack Sync Update
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Musescore 4 Jack Sync Update
Musescore 4 Transport Timing Setup
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Musescore 4 Transport Timing Setup
Musescore 4 Jack Transport Update
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Musescore 4 Jack Transport Update
Musescore 4 Jack Transport Test
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Musescore 4 Jack Transport Test
Musescore 4 Jack MIDI/Audio Development
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Musescore 4 Jack MIDI/Audio Development
Musescore 4 for Final Production (Layering Technique)
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Musescore 4 for Final Production (Layering Technique)
"Father And Son" - Piano Roll
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"Father And Son" - Piano Roll
Musescore 4 - More Film Score Mock-Up
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Musescore 4 - More Film Score Mock-Up
Musescore 4 - Film Score Effects Mockup
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Musescore 4 - Film Score Effects Mockup
My "Gear" Setup
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My "Gear" Setup

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  • @markliebe
    @markliebe 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well I now feel a little stupid. I’ve been using Ubuntu studio for about a month and I’ve been trying to get all my windows plug-ins to run in linux. I guess this is a well trodden path. Time to see what Linux can actually do. Thanks for the reality check.

  • @wvp873
    @wvp873 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is great. I especially like the association of intervals with emotions. Thank you for sharing!

  • @pagisubuh
    @pagisubuh 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A question to you Carl. Do you do copyright control stuff before publish your music in youtube channel?

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pagisubuh no

    • @pagisubuh
      @pagisubuh 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@carlirwinmusic thanks for responded.

  • @marcus_ohreallyus
    @marcus_ohreallyus 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As soon as I heard the track playing in the intro, I subscribed. I want to make music like that

  • @raezz1
    @raezz1 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great content! I often wondered how emotions can be mapped to chords, chord progressions or melodies. Now I've got a perfect summary on this. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @dersinndeslebens9780
    @dersinndeslebens9780 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    which distribution do you use?

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dersinndeslebens9780 Ubuntu Studio 24.04

  • @CaligulaCa3sar
    @CaligulaCa3sar 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your split of the violin sections between left and right actually matches what would have been the norm for an orchestra of Tchaikovsky's era. He wrote "stereo effects" into his string writing (see the swapping semiquaver patterns in the score here or at the start of the last movement of his 6th symphony) so you've inadvertently put them back in where we often miss out with modern orchestra layouts.

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @CaligulaCa3sar I didn't inadvertently do it. I was aware of the historical split violins configuration. Some orchestras even prefer this. I was merely pointing out that it's not the (contemporary) norm. But it is ideal for recording and film music renders.

  • @pagisubuh
    @pagisubuh 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for sharing. Very good video contain. Greeting from Malaysia

  • @cjshrimpy7191
    @cjshrimpy7191 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video is a good refresher on a lot of topics i've studied/thought about when writing my own music. Thanks for sharing!

  • @cx8981
    @cx8981 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where can I find the specified Musescore4 version and buildnumber?

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cx8981 github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/19246/checks

  • @pagisubuh
    @pagisubuh 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    beautiful composition. thank you

  • @ArthurKlisiewicz
    @ArthurKlisiewicz 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lniux audio still does not have a full potential for my needs, but since Microsfot destroys Windows more and more, it is time to look for alternatives. The problem with many people is that they have already invested thousands of dollars in their existing libraries (espeically sample libs i.e. NI Komplete series) and it is really hard to bypass and drop these. I wish (and hope) that once Windows12 is introduced and it will certainly suck even more that Win11 there will be great movement into Linux in general. I have Mint installed on the laptop and I love it. The only thing I am missing is still not so broad choice of Apps. I am very happy however it is growing. Microsoft and Apple suck, really , really suck! Along with few other soft giants they becamy spying machines and do not care about users anymore at all. I will be super happy to see them eliminated from the market (at least partially)....

  • @pagisubuh
    @pagisubuh 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for sharing. This method is also work for me.

  • @prodego1
    @prodego1 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Between Calf, LSP, Dragonfly, and ZL Equalizer; I think I should have everything I need. Any other recommendations?

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @prodego1 for FX, beyond those (and even among them), there is plenty of redundancy.

  • @pagisubuh
    @pagisubuh หลายเดือนก่อน

    very much agree with you .

  • @pagisubuh
    @pagisubuh หลายเดือนก่อน

    Genius is a strange concept in life.

  • @pagisubuh
    @pagisubuh หลายเดือนก่อน

    Learn so much from your channel handling musescore 4. Thank you for sharing your music and your knowledge.

  • @thepowerhousesound
    @thepowerhousesound หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this a plug in or the default sound pacakge? Mine does not sound like this lol

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thepowerhousesound these are the default Muse Sounds... but using mock-up techniques: th-cam.com/video/6q8XPz8RpsI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=AWBoi-hL2NWzvIMV

    • @thepowerhousesound
      @thepowerhousesound หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@carlirwinmusic thanks so much!

  • @theWeakForce77
    @theWeakForce77 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a master class on realism. So important. Thank you!

  • @seven_chords
    @seven_chords หลายเดือนก่อน

    the one thing holding me back from switching from mac to linux for audio production is software instruments, especially in the orchestral category, as i still heavily rely on those. (if anyone knows of some that already exist and support linux (mainly using reaper as daw) please leave a reply (both free and paid ones)).

  • @theWeakForce77
    @theWeakForce77 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super info. I am working with Muse4 and Ardour. Just getting started. Will see if I can get to where you could. Many many thanks!

  • @christophelalevee2868
    @christophelalevee2868 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Since Muse Hub is Out of order since 11/11 (macos), could you explain how to retrieve the museSounds that are installed in my computer, directly from MuseScore 4 and all the paid instruments also. TY Chris

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@christophelalevee2868 That's not possible. Those sounds can only be performed by the Muse Score Studio play engine. Removing even 1 sample from the library (which wouldn't be beneficial or usable) and using it in a manner other than intended would be a violation of Muse Group's licensing and their copyright.

  • @Sanwych
    @Sanwych หลายเดือนก่อน

    sounds great! Muse sounds are amazing, but I find them to be a bit inconsistent at times, specially when playing with differents dynamics and punctuation marks. Still incredible that they are avaiable for free.

  • @samthewoo
    @samthewoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To clarify what you're explaining at 9:30-10:00...basically you add a measure in musescore that will make up for the latency in play between blender and musescore as you're writing, which then gets deleted when you submit the finished product?

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @samthewoo correct. Across my systems (4 different computers with varying specs), I use a 4/4 measure @ 123bpm in M4 against 1 4/4 measure @ 120bpm in DAW and/or 48 frames when picture is at 24fps in Blender video editor. I strike the first measure from M4 and import the audio to start at 0 with picture OR measure 2 in the DAW with the session start marker placed at the same spot.

  • @samthewoo
    @samthewoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To clarify what you're explaining at 9:30-10:00...basically you add a measure in musescore that will make up for the latency in play between blender and musescore as you're writing, which then gets deleted when you submit the finished product?

  • @Cycling.Doughnut
    @Cycling.Doughnut 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I read a lot of comments that drum pads on a midi controller do not work with LMMS? And it seems there is no solution to that. I cannot find any information if they work on other software (apart from the one shipped with the controller). I use Linux, and thinking of buying a midi controller, but I do not know if all buttons and knobs will work.

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Cycling.Doughnut I believe that there is a discover feature for midi controllers that works quite well.

  • @DeLueMusic
    @DeLueMusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is really great stuff, man. I had chills from the first piece and the pizzicato at the end made my hair stand up…

  • @DeLueMusic
    @DeLueMusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the few videos I’ve watched twice, back-to-back. Thank you for taking the time to make this. The track sounds great, too!

  • @proypro807
    @proypro807 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤

  • @NicolasGilfillan
    @NicolasGilfillan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice!

  • @esahm373
    @esahm373 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this a real violin recording? Sounds very good!

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is MuseScore 4 Muse Sounds. If you bought that it's real... then that's how good Muse Sounds and the MuseScore 4 playback engine is.

    • @esahm373
      @esahm373 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@carlirwinmusic Wow! Yes, sounds very convincing

  • @javiermedina5313
    @javiermedina5313 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for these videos! Have you tried the new paid libraries? It would be awesome if you make a video on that stuff.

  • @jamus1217
    @jamus1217 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem i have is that i already have a vast collection of virtual instruments for Windows, so moving to Linux would be a major hassle.

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamus1217 then don't. If you have a working setup, what motivation would you have to change?

    • @jamus1217
      @jamus1217 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@carlirwinmusic It's all the bloat after updates, things reinstalling themselves, unnecessary backround processes that refuse to go away and constant issues with things like OneDrive being ever present. I just want an OS that only does what i need and contains what i want it to :(

  • @MikhailRimskyKorsakov
    @MikhailRimskyKorsakov 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Privet friends! Interesting video. The 2nd part sounds better to me, close to real live performance. Also, this comment is for those curious of NotePerformer 4.5. Follow the link here and discover the magic of NotePerformer. I cannot recall any VST sounding like a recording like this. The music in the linked video was produced by Dorico 5.1 Pro driving NotePerformer 4.5.0. The music performance can still be tweaked using Dorico's MIDI lanes, but the listener will definitely hear how NotePerformer is not this 'in-between', medium quality VST as some claims. NotePerformer has a lot of power, if one knows how to use its magic! th-cam.com/video/QfHQ5ZM4BaE/w-d-xo.html

  • @CHeeseForPresident
    @CHeeseForPresident 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am very happy that I found this, because being able to synch audio or film to Musescore would be increadibly useful to me. I hope this will be part of Musescore in the future, as I am definitely not tech-savy enough to set this up myself. I have been looking for solutions to this for a long while and not found any, so thank you so much for working on this!

  • @AlexWeidmannComposer
    @AlexWeidmannComposer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Carl. It appears you've placed some of your target dynamics under rests after the preceding hairpin. Far as I know, these don't have any effect in Muse Score 4. Target dynamics only take effect when they're placed under notes. Also you have some hairpins with no target dynamic indicated. I'm not sure these have any effect either. N.B. I think this may have changed since Muse Score 3, as I seem to remember dynamics being handled differently in that version.

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hairpin dynamics do have an effect without an arriving dynamic marking. However, they merely advance one dynamic level. I believe this has been the case since 4.0. The use of a dynamic target on a rest following a hairpin means that the hairpin will advance at an appropriate rate to the the point of the dynamic marking. With the marking on a rest, it means that the playback does not arrive at that marking but will play back at a greater rate than without the marking... or it will advance at a lower rate, provided that the target is only one level higher/lower. This technique allows for the playback of a dynamic crossfade that lies prior to an actual sample level. This is useful for creating swells that do not 'overblow' (i.e. when p to f is too loud and p to mf is too soft, placing the f on the following rest will create a crossfade release that is between mf and f). Additionally, M4 allows for the placement of a dynamic after a hairpin by selecting the hairpin and then choosing a dynamic target. The target will be placed on the nearest increment following the hairpin and generate the same crossfade release effect that I described. Hopefully that helps.

    • @AlexWeidmannComposer
      @AlexWeidmannComposer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the tips! In that case I've been given the wrong advice on the Muse Score Forum, where I was told dynamics under rests have no effect at all.

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlexWeidmannComposer Additionally, dynamics under rests will set the dynamic level for music thereafter (obviously). But this is important because the play engine will sometimes glitch on playback where an attack at a dynamic change will initiate in the previous marking and then suddenly adjust to the new written marking. This can be overcome by merely placing the dynamic change ahead (usually on a rest).

  • @JaiHebel
    @JaiHebel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00:00 *🎶 Introduction to Linux Digital Audio Workstations (DAWs)* - Introduction to DAWs available for Linux, - Mention of alternatives like proprietary software, - Focus on native Linux applications discussed. 00:03:56 *📝 MuseScore Capabilities* - Strong orchestral and notation capabilities in MuseScore, - Limitations of MIDI layer and play engine in MuseScore, - Import and utilization of sound fonts and libraries. 00:06:11 *📼 Role of Audacity* - Use of Audacity for audio editing and sequencing, - Mention of Audacity's limitations with MIDI functionality, - Final polish sequencing and mastering by using Audacity. 00:07:49 *🎹 Features of LMMS* - Strength in MIDI handling and plugin integration in LMMS, - Limitations with audio recording and interface, - Functionality for electronic and hybrid music creation. 00:11:37 *🔄 Qtractor Attributes* - Strong MIDI sequencing capabilities, - Issues with tempo and meter mapping during MIDI import, - Exclusively utilizes JACK and requires pipewire for low latency setup. 00:16:18 *🚀 Ardour's Robustness* - Ardour's proficiency in MIDI import and customization, - Comprehensive audio and video editing features, - Recommendation for serious and comprehensive usage. 00:20:05 *🔗 Carla and Patch Bay* - Use of Carla for routing and connecting multiple DAWs, - Benefits of using PipeWire for seamless audio integration, - Encouragement to update to the latest PipeWire for enhanced capabilities. Made with HARPA AI

  • @samuelbanya
    @samuelbanya 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's super cool that you can create your own reverbs as you said aka 3d rooms. Do you have a tutorial video on how to do this? Curious since I would love to do field recordings to generate reverbs.

  • @Gusrikh1
    @Gusrikh1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very, very educational.

  • @jayzeeques
    @jayzeeques 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly, I was a bit shocked to see this, you actually did it! This is enormously helpful. There were a good few things in here that I hadn't picked up from your other videos (or from my own experimentation), and for the things I had heard before, it's great to have them all in one place. Additionally, seeing how you go about use these tricks-both in hearing what you're looking out for and in the actual implementation-makes for a great reference. Thanks for taking the time to make and record this, it's a great resource I'll be passing on to many people I imagine. P.S. You don't have to make a whole nother video on this (I've asked plenty of you as it is), but do you have any tips for more soloistic playback, e.g. in chamber/small ensembles?

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jayzeeques For soloist playing... go crazy with precise articulation, dynamic placement, and rhythmic variation. Detail the samples that you want called up in the engine.

  • @FocusMrbjarke
    @FocusMrbjarke 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like i will watch this later. Thanks for the hard work! :)

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a long one.

  • @sebastiantobiascastro9350
    @sebastiantobiascastro9350 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Carl. Thank you very much for sharing your workflow with audio and video in Linux. It is contributions like yours that do justice to the possibilities that the platform offers to work in terms of quality, ease and flexibility of use (some things more than others, of course ;) -as in any ecosystem-) and, above all, as a tool for professional musicians (composers, arrangers, teachers, etc.) that has nothing to envy of other OS/Software. I have been following the development of MScore4 jack branch for months through your videos and I use it daily. I hope it will be an official part of MSCore soon. Greetings from Argentina and apologies for my "google translator" English. Thanks again!

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sebastiantobiascastro9350 Thank you for the kind words.

  • @yggdrasil7033
    @yggdrasil7033 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    does this work on mac?

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yggdrasil7033 I don't think so. Not yet.

    • @yggdrasil7033
      @yggdrasil7033 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@carlirwinmusic are there plans for it to function on mac?

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yggdrasil7033 I think much of that is up to Jack working on Mac rather than Musescore. Are you currently using Jack for anything on Mac?

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yggdrasil7033 For what it's worth... the developer of this branch was looking at Mac functionality just this morning; trying to seek out the elements that made M3 accessible to Jack on Mac. So, there's hope there.

  • @ironknobair
    @ironknobair 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you spend big bucks on windows programs like izotope for audio mixing and mastering, it is hard to change.

  • @nyashanin4860
    @nyashanin4860 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It feels like I'm watching a very old Disney cartoon😮

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nyashanin4860 given who composed the music for those and the quality in it... I'll take that as a compliment.

  • @TheFatPriest
    @TheFatPriest 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you - really excellent advice here. What is the word used at 16:08? "Crire"?

    • @carlirwinmusic
      @carlirwinmusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheFatPriest Cuivre - French word for copper metal. In music, it indicates a "brassy" edge in tone.

  • @blueslsd
    @blueslsd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a good video been on linux using Mixbus Pro10 which is built on Ardour. Never missed any plugins for my music.

  • @edrickblade
    @edrickblade 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great to see you working on Pipewire, I went back to Jack setup because Tracktion Waveform give some problems with PW