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Eno's Gateway: exploring sonic capabilities of the Kurzweil Forte, K2700
This is all about exploring Forte's filters and sonic audio capabilities. Relax and flow into a higher state…
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Transference part 2 tutorial: my workflow for the Kurzweil Forte & K2700
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In this advanced tutorial, I show you my workflow how to transfer Ni Kontakt instrument to the Kurzweil Forte or 2700. The method is basically the same for other Kurz models. A part of my library sounds are now available through my Patreon account: www.patreon.com/user?u=81242476
Transference P1: Is the Kurzweil Forte, K2700 & PC4/7 a Montage or Kronos killer?
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Well, does it matter? They are all great instruments, the Kurzweils does have some advantages. The Forte has 16 GB flash memory and some nice sound design tricks like modulating the sample start point. You can edit the Forte like a modular synth - limitless. In this video I showcase my library, transferred sounds from my PC to the Forte. In part 2 I show how to go about it and convert your own ...

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  • @femagon
    @femagon หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I have purchased some of your sounds. Pianos are amazing. Now I would like to purchase another sounds, but your Patreon page does not work. How can I do it? Regards

  • @calcairecamhi
    @calcairecamhi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where can I find your Grandeur post on Patreon ? Can't seem to find it

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, here you go- the latest version. Comes is in a XL and Big version: www.patreon.com/posts/steinway-d-grand-110213877

    • @calcairecamhi
      @calcairecamhi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@inside_joke I'm using some of your sounds on a daily basis. I liked the Kurzweil before. Now it's near perfect. The only thing I'd like to upgrade is the keyboard. I've not opened it up yet, and there are no videos online. I was wondering if the keyboard hardware connectors and screws were the same as fatar keybeds, to replace the Medelli one day. The action is quite good, sure it's not bad, but the building quality won't last (same as fatar tp100lr, they tend to wear out fast. Though imo tp100lr action is bad).

    • @calcairecamhi
      @calcairecamhi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd like to purchase one of your Rhodes sounds because I'm not satisfied with the onboard one. It's good but the velocity layers are reacting strange, no matter the velocity curve I'm using. My go to rhodes vst is Vintage Vibe 88 Keyscape Spectrasonics. Is one of your sounds similar ? The MK8 maybe ?

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@calcairecamhi well. I agree with the keybed limitations. Kurz should create a desktop or rack version of its Forte/K2700. My solution is less elegant, I use a VPC1 for piano and a Roland synth for most other sounds. For some sounds, like Rhodes, I do like the fatar keybeds. Already I can feel a difference between my Forte (5yo) and my brand-new K2700, aging goes fast. If you find a workaround, you should share it, many struggle with this.

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@calcairecamhi It's pretty tricky to give you solid advice on this one because the velocity layers a so personal. I have a heavy touch. What I do try, is to use more layers and find natural transitions and build-up. It is not linear. My Golden Rhodes is one to try (MK1) and for the MK8 I am going to update that one soon, it's an already a beauty, but time gives new tricks for improvement.

  • @kahlilsmith5243
    @kahlilsmith5243 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Straight Genius! Kurzweil Should hire You.

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank-you!

  • @calcairecamhi
    @calcairecamhi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Impressive, that's some patient work ! It is possible to purchase just a few sounds you sampled and made ? There's also one vst that I'd like to have sampled, maybe you could do it ?

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank You! All my sounds are available through my Patreon, lots of freebies too. Sorry to say that i don't take on sample work due to time-stress. www.patreon.com/user?u=81242476

  • @penponds
    @penponds 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We see plenty of the biggest stars / bands playing with Kronos, and K2000 series, but I’ve yet to see a single Forte on stage. Any opinions why / happy to be corrected..? I’ve only an old SP4, and gave up waiting for an affordable Forte to appear so put down $2000 (AUD) on Roland Fantom G8 that I’ve midi’ed to my old FA-07 to access its Supernatural sounds.

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Legit point. Well, I think Kurzweil should just do better Marketing.

  • @quananginh9446
    @quananginh9446 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I guess the next generation of stage pianos will be VST host just like a MIDI keyboard attached to computer. That way, the possibilities of sounds will be unlimitted.

  • @hannesoberwalder5676
    @hannesoberwalder5676 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The additional display of the Forte is nice, is this real? What is it? The sounds of this guy are very interesting - I am looking for a mono compatible piano sound for the stage for Kurzweil Forte - is there any thing planned?

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well thank you :-) A good mono piano is a fine project, did you have a certain piano in mind?

    • @hannesoberwalder5676
      @hannesoberwalder5676 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@inside_joke I usually use a YAMAHA S90 XS Mono Piano for live gigs, but I would like to use my Kurzweil Forte, it is very musical. So something that is mono and cuts through a band in Pop/Jazz would be really helpful

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hannesoberwalder5676 I have the S90ED Natural Grand, is that the same basic piano sound? The thing about mono piano's on stage is mostly about avoiding phase problems that can occur with a stereo or binaural sound. If you keep the lower range mono, you should be okay.

    • @hannesoberwalder5676
      @hannesoberwalder5676 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@inside_joke Yes, I know. With the S90 XS there is no problem at all, there are various keymaps for good mono pianos, but I would like to play with the Kurzweil Forte in the future. The mono pno keymaps there are really old and not exactly for my taste. Therefore I am looking for a newer Kurzweil mono piano sound. A stereo pno recorded in X/Y, MS Stereo or Blümlein would also work

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hannesoberwalder5676 I read the White Grand it popular with 'mono' players, they use the right output. Same for the S6 grand from the S90 and later models. I will create a patch for that- on the long list so will take some weeks.

  • @hannesoberwalder5676
    @hannesoberwalder5676 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the additional display of the Forte is nice, is this real? What is it? The sounds of this guy are very interesting - I am looking for a mono compatible piano sound for the stage for Kurzweil Forte - is there any thing planned?

  • @stv-hammond
    @stv-hammond 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am gong to explore VAST on my Forte this weekend!

  • @joskomestrov-uroda4012
    @joskomestrov-uroda4012 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are Yamaha CP70b and NS3 Mello/Schimmel Upright multisamples/programs available for download?

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      www.patreon.com/posts/schimmel-upright-75777389

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      www.patreon.com/posts/yamaha-cp70-juno-80872914

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Here you go! any problems, let know

    • @joskomestrov-uroda4012
      @joskomestrov-uroda4012 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@inside_joke I downloaded both. Now just to load them in my Forte. edit: CP70 is not FOR format file (NKI)

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joskomestrov-uroda4012 I see you have a active account, great. I also see you have a free membership and a paid one. Please login under the paid account and download the sounds. You can also use the search option to get to the right downloads.

  • @joskomestrov-uroda4012
    @joskomestrov-uroda4012 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could You lead me how to access all these treasures? I don't have any experience with Patreon...I would like to donate and download if this is how it goes 😊

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Josko, if you consider them treasures, than i lead you there with pleasure :-) After a general sign on to Patreon, you can simply can become a member of my tier 'Get access to my Forte and K2700 sounds'. Then you'll be able to download all.

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      Membership is monthly renewed, so enough time to browse and get what you like. Greetings. Inside_Joke

    • @joskomestrov-uroda4012
      @joskomestrov-uroda4012 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@inside_joke I will definitely join and donate as soon as I get to my PC. Hope that libraries that are of my interest will be available 😁

  • @LouisManofMusic
    @LouisManofMusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing performance and demonstration!

  • @PatMaddox
    @PatMaddox ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for sharing this! So awesome. When you do the timber shift, does that mute the other layers or prevent them from triggering at all? I ask because the polyphony usage is very different - if they’re muted, it’s 6 voices (stereo x 3 layers) but if the other layers don’t trigger then it’s just 2 for stereo. I think anyway. If it prevents them from triggering and keeps polyphony low, that’s a fantastic trick!

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Pat. You got it right altogether: I make several multisample layers, basically variations on itself. De round-robin mutes the higher copies of itself, preventing double or triple use of polyphony. The muting is called opaque. This is an option to mute higher layers when active. This can be make dependent on a key velocity switch as well: so a layer PPP can mute another PPP layer but leave (for example) a MF layer alone. This way, you can make pretty complex configurations of a single multisample (called keymap in the Kurz). To make well use of a timbre shift, you need to sample at least all the relevant white notes. Or else you would be cycling the same samples. Hope this helps you on the way.

  • @PatMaddox
    @PatMaddox ปีที่แล้ว

    These are some excellent sounds. Do you have any info on how you put them together? I am curious what you chose in terms of sample length, steps, velocity layers, how you loop the samples, and what kind of programming you do in the kurz. edit: watching P2 now!!!

  • @gibson2623
    @gibson2623 ปีที่แล้ว

    NO.

  • @dr.emilschaffhausen4683
    @dr.emilschaffhausen4683 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any literature you recommend for learning VAST?

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      Not that I can think of. Here's a forum i picked up specific knowledge about VAST: forums.godlike.com.au/index.php

    • @dr.emilschaffhausen4683
      @dr.emilschaffhausen4683 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@inside_joke Thank you sir!

    • @yashnu
      @yashnu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kurzweil K2000 manuals, downloadable for free from the Kurzweil website.

  • @crandallexpo0648
    @crandallexpo0648 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you transport NI sounds with the PC4 ? You know?

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Crandel, if you mean to ask if the PC4 can load NI sounds directly i'm sorry to say no. But, after converting them (check vid 2 of this series) the awnser is YES!

  • @crandallexpo0648
    @crandallexpo0648 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait kurzweil has the mks 20 sounds?

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      Not exactly, Roland did - but i converted them to the Kurz :-)

    • @crandallexpo0648
      @crandallexpo0648 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@inside_joke yes that's what I'm trying to figure out so I can put it into my PC4 when it gets here. I have the sounds on my laptop for NI Kontakt

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      www.patreon.com/posts/roland-mks-20-75405089

  • @Venatt1
    @Venatt1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kurzweil K2700 us amazing, but the reason I won't buy it's because it's to heavy. If they make a 61 key version I would give it a very serious consideration.

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      The forte has more flashram and a 76key version, not too heavy for me.

    • @joskomestrov-uroda4012
      @joskomestrov-uroda4012 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      K2061 is "soon to be released", but with less sample ROM vs Forte (2 Gb vs 16 Gb) which affects mostly acoustic and electric piano multisamples, and less RAM (2 Gb vs 3.4 Gb)

  • @synthscrape
    @synthscrape ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see someone who knows what they’re doing with VAST on a K2700. Hope to see more

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      More coming up for sure, check out my Patreon for freebies www.patreon.com/user?u=81242476

  • @hd24alesi
    @hd24alesi ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you put all your library on patroon and I’ll subs again

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, really! you can get some new free tasters (freebies) on my Patreon btw. Its quite a job to put them up but step-by-step i am getting there. www.patreon.com/user?u=81242476

  • @hd24alesi
    @hd24alesi ปีที่แล้ว

    Kurzweil need you to promote this beast amazing how your ports bring it to another level

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think they can afford me :-)

    • @hd24alesi
      @hd24alesi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@inside_joke haha how much would you charge for packages of your library I’d be interested I have some but you have others you haven’t ported across

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hd24alesi Patreons can make a suggestion or two, always happy to oblige as long it's a reasonable time effort!

  • @ickeabstractearth9919
    @ickeabstractearth9919 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man ! This is absolute dope !! After some years of using other gear, I decided to come back to my roots and would by a K pc-4 I guess even only with the 2 GB memory I could use some of your sounds ? Please make em aviable, I am willing to pay ! This is really great !!! I can directly hear and feel why you did that . Is the converter a windows Programm ? Or is it also available for Mac ? Anyway : I go back to Kurzweil now, i bought a Roland fantom, a Yamaha modx , all nice I their ways but nothing compares to the universe of options one has with Kurzweil . Luckily enough I dived deep into VAST 20 years ago, so I don’t have a problem working with it. It is by far , to deepest shit on the face of this planet.

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, good to see you like 'em. Most of the sounds should load up just fine in the PC-4, might be some minor differences due to the DSP engine. There is a part-2 video, check it out with all the info you'll need. You can get my sounds (some freebies) at my Patreon www.patreon.com/user?u=81242476

  • @hd24alesi
    @hd24alesi ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ll subscribe I don’t have enough time to sample these days due lots of projects I’m on but your Rhodes port was awesome

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy you appreciate the Rhodes port, thanks

    • @hd24alesi
      @hd24alesi ปีที่แล้ว

      Great port of Grandeur nice and warm you got the Kurz purring haha

  • @angelmirmartinez9096
    @angelmirmartinez9096 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi newbie here. I own a PC4 SE. What does it mean it doesn't have sample memory? What are the limitations? Can I still upload sounds I found on line?

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, the PC4SE is a powerful instrument as well, you have 2GB flashram to load in sounds- you can even load in my sounds in .For (Forte format). Check out my page a Patreon for freebies

    • @angelmirmartinez9096
      @angelmirmartinez9096 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@inside_jokeHey thanks for you reply... TH-cam did not let me know about your answer and I found it revisiting your video. Since my PC4SE is sample memory excluded I thought I couldn't add any kind of external sounds, but there are some sounds ( the formats allowed by Kurzweil)l that I can really use. I really like the cfx and c7 pianos in the YC of Yamaha. Is there a way to have them on my PC4SE or Do I have to upgrade to a regular PC4 or k2700. By the way I am blown away for all your knowledge. Most of the time as I read your description I did not know what you were talking about. Thanks for takinthe time to share it.

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@angelmirmartinez9096 Thank-you, although the PC4se is a great instrument an upgrade to a PC4 (or maybay the upcoming K2061/88) will give you 'a world' of extra sounds. Mabay you can trade you SE in at a music store - sometimes you can make a good deal. With the Flashram you will not be able to get those fancy pianos.

    • @angelmirmartinez9096
      @angelmirmartinez9096 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@inside_joke It is good to know that there is a way to have those piano sounds. Upgrading doesn't seem soon for me. There is no trade in where I live and I think K2088 will be almost as heavy as a K 2700. If I manage to do it I will ask you how to get them. Thanks.

  • @lollebolle8
    @lollebolle8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds great. Can I buy them all on your patriot site?

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice to hear you enjoy them Lollebolle. There are many patches already, most I will upload coming time- I want to get it right. If you want a specific sound with 'priority' just let me know. Some freebies there too btw.

  • @artephank
    @artephank ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I am on the fance with Kurzweil. I read all the manuals available and I really like the ideas behind vast. I think it is very different yet intuitive programming model. Seems really easy to me but I read a lot of people saying it is hard to wrap your head around it and that it is slow to program. On the other hand- this. 8:20

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Artephank. I agree, VAST is intuitive/ fast after playing around with it for a while. There are not many limits in what you can achieve. Hope Kurz can hang on and keeps innovating!

  • @todosko
    @todosko ปีที่แล้ว

    Great VAST programming!

  • @dirkkeersmaekers4343
    @dirkkeersmaekers4343 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @crybo
    @crybo ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely stuff. My Kurzweil K2000 lives under my bed unfortunately. No room for it on my desk. It was an incredible synth back in the day, hope this one is just as incredible!

  • @insupark0820
    @insupark0820 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful evolution of sound. Great job, man...

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed!

    • @insupark0820
      @insupark0820 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@inside_joke How can I reach you?

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      @@insupark0820 You can contact me on insidejoke908@gmail.com

  • @Robertschannel01
    @Robertschannel01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, amazing beautiful man

  • @calcairecamhi
    @calcairecamhi ปีที่แล้ว

    Hooked to your 12:35 riff, sound also

  • @penponds
    @penponds 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible sound and great improvisation!!

  • @docsax7769
    @docsax7769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing beats Kronos

    • @hd24alesi
      @hd24alesi ปีที่แล้ว

      erm I beg to differ ootb maybe BUT if you load the right samples and believe me I have had all the major synths incl a Kronos which I liked, into the Kurz then its game over. Let me say this subs to Inside_Joke pattern get the Rhodes and Grandeur. How he got the Grandeur to sound as good as the NI one is beyond me considering the size. I had to eq the NI one to give it body (I normally do that) and did add eq mainly bass on the Kurz its just sublime. Kurz is like a sports car until you activate its bells and whistle you can maybe feel a bit underwhelmed , with em on and it's NO Contest.

    • @dyinbreed3329
      @dyinbreed3329 ปีที่แล้ว

      nothing except the Forte

  • @தேவகிருபை-வ1ச
    @தேவகிருபை-வ1ச 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kronos is killer for me....

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We all have our medicine :-)

    • @torbenanschau6641
      @torbenanschau6641 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@inside_joke But seriously! I mean even the first Kronos already had an inbuilt 30 GB SSD which allowed streaming directly from there, later models had 60. And of course you could do exactly the same trick with using other libraries. Fact though is, whilst these are just samples, the Kronos has 9 Sound engines. Not just three like the Forte/2700. And I'd be indeed hard impressed if you'd manage to get the sounds of the virtual acoustic engine into the K. Let alone and MS-20, Polysix. Or alternatively reprogram those with vast. Which on my K2500XS. Whilst impressive, it's also pretty complicated. There have been geeks to program KB3, but that's not what everyone is capable of.

    • @robertvanderend6333
      @robertvanderend6333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@torbenanschau6641 Seriously, SSD is not comparable to FLASH ram. Loading times are zero, and you have Seamless sound switching, for musicians a big thing. FLASH is crazy expensive, although getting more available now, like in the Nord Stage. Personally, the playing comfort with FLASH is so much better. Latency wise, the Kurz feels more direct and like a musical instrument. The Kurz needs only 1 sound engine (VAST), all is build around it. It goes much, much deeper than Kronos sys. For one, the VAST sample engine is comparable to Kontakt (sample startpoint modulation etc, multisample groups, random switches), that's why you can convert those libraries better. And the sound is way better, if you know what you are doing. The kronos emulations (MS-20 etc.) are nice synths of course, but feel like a gimmick. If you owned a Polysix you know it sounds way, way better. Yes, VAST is complicated and not for everyone, it's the same for modular synthesis or other open systems. But endusers can profit from other sounddesigners doing the hard work.

    • @MrCcfly
      @MrCcfly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertvanderend6333 ssd is flash nand mean supeeeer fast vs same stuff that is prices superrr expensive

  • @АлександрЛапченко-н4е
    @АлександрЛапченко-н4е 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    KURZ is a solid made and high professional tool.

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke ปีที่แล้ว

      Be happy to know the secret :-)

  • @insupark0820
    @insupark0820 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you put Kronos through your work flow? Especially....Italian piano.

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any instrument can be translated- i would need the instrument at hand to do so to do it properly.

  • @donleino
    @donleino 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    trying to understand the difference from a forte 8 and a k2700, i can get a forte for like 2grand and a k2700 would be like 3

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Don, the Forte has more flashmemory, the K2700 doubles the polyphony. And there are small differences like a audio interface for the 2700. I would always go for the Forte.

    • @donleino
      @donleino 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@inside_joke hmmm im wondering the difference of waverom. I know forte has more piano ep clav waves. But not sure about other instruments. Thanks for replying

    • @Martin_Demsky
      @Martin_Demsky ปีที่แล้ว

      0:45 ​​@@donleinoi own Forte, it have 16 GB of samples instead of 4,5 GB on K2700. K2700 have more polyphony (256 voices instead of 128), but on Forte KB3 mode have free polyphony, not counted into these 128 voices. FM engine, VA oscillators etc are same. If you are looking for good orchestra, there is some 3rd party libs which sounds great (Epic Orchestra). Also some other great from Barb&Co, from Dave Weiser great epianos, or you can import programs from PC3/4. Thousands of great programs.

  • @hendrikmustermann4789
    @hendrikmustermann4789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video. Thank you so much! Has the SYSEX BUG been fixed?

    • @inside_joke
      @inside_joke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi/ Hoi Hendrik, i was not aware of a sysex bug, but check out the Forte forum: forums.godlike.com.au/index.php

  • @insupark0820
    @insupark0820 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. Can you put Kronos' Italian and Austrian Grand through your work flow? I think you can emulate other synth's sounds on the Forte.

  • @robertvanderend6333
    @robertvanderend6333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This one still in the market?

  • @Benqo
    @Benqo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job!

  • @dirkkeersmaekers4343
    @dirkkeersmaekers4343 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks man,help me a lot to choose