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The Awful Science of Phrenology
This one took a while. Life stuff and it was surprisingly hard to research.
Well, I hope you like it. That's about it.
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References:
docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQikYaC50zKAVTwVxpQ4Q15rVZTjwkShjEsWvTNVXqmC_LTGLV2cn-3bIAI4krtYP83ox6wh1PBRPIn/pub
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
03:53 Gordon vs Spurzheim part 1
05:23 What is phrenology?
16:59 Gordon vs Spurzheim part 2
19:29 Phrenology has always been bad science
29:37 Gordon vs Spurzheim part 3
35:04 Bad faith actors
38:19 Gordon vs Spurzheim part 4
39:18 Phrenology's legacy
52:11 Mark Twain bonus
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  • @HoLeeFoc
    @HoLeeFoc 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Many people's view of the world is based on Hollywood movies.

  • @v.heywood
    @v.heywood หลายเดือนก่อน

    commenting for the algorithm : )

  • @v.heywood
    @v.heywood หลายเดือนก่อน

    this channel is criminally underrated

  • @v.heywood
    @v.heywood หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video ! =)

  • @BobOsso67
    @BobOsso67 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I practice reverse phrenology. That's where you tell me the traits you wish to obtain, pay cash up front. Next I use a peen hammer and add lumps in the appropriate areas.

  • @dennisbr123
    @dennisbr123 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You probably think IQ is a psudoscience aswell. Because some people have more and others less of it. It seem to be location based aswell, just saying. Facts dont care about fewings wompwomp

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I knew a guy who did an iq test, spent 3 months doing practice tests, did a second test and got into Mensa with a 17-point iq increase: IQ is provably a measure of exposure and practice as well as innate ability, and only emotionally stunted pick-mes like you believe otherwise. Grow up, you waste of oxygen.

  • @andeverytimewekiss
    @andeverytimewekiss หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the first video of yours I’ve seen and it’s great! I love your sense of humor and how much thought and effort you put into the presentation of information! This was a really interesting, high quality video!

  • @DownfallxInsides
    @DownfallxInsides หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not me looking at the thumbnail and thinking "Oh! A video that'll teach me how to draw skulls!" Then I read the title and realized my mistake.

    • @danilooliveira6580
      @danilooliveira6580 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hate when I'm tricked into learning cool things

    • @ancient_void
      @ancient_void หลายเดือนก่อน

      consider it an hour break before getting back to drawing :)

    • @luvarga
      @luvarga หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is adorable

    • @johnrumouro9098
      @johnrumouro9098 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fuck, me too...

  • @mattropolis7857
    @mattropolis7857 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember that the idea of phrenology was put out by some of the brightest minds of the early 20th century. In fact, a lot of the horrors of eugenics (gas chambers of Nazi Germany) all had their roots in highly academic and popular academic and 'enlightened' thinkers of the era on how the world could be made better. Makes you wonder what highly popular and 'enlightened' theories today are in the same boat...

  • @Chickadeemedicine
    @Chickadeemedicine หลายเดือนก่อน

    As if Gage didn't get dealt enough of a shite hand enduring that workplace injury and the healing afterwards .... The poor guy's legacy is forever connected to two, TWO, equally vile medical "science" fads. Phrenology and the lobotomy both did to society what that pole did to Gage, destroyed vital areas of basic decency n reasoning.

  • @amafuji
    @amafuji หลายเดือนก่อน

    Physiognomy has been vindicated. I expect phrenology will be as well

  • @joejohn6795
    @joejohn6795 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why don’t you talk about the actual science of genetics, race, and skull shape? To this day we use skull shapes to the race of long dead people. Or how about how the brain volume of various groups actually differ? This is all settled science.

    • @emmaarmo379
      @emmaarmo379 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The keyword there is 'long dead'. You know, when populations were actually separate and didn't mix nearly as much? You say this is settled science, but you write like someone who hasn't cracked a book published on the subject in the past 30 years.

  • @ModMassive
    @ModMassive หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very well researched and presented, you are a critically underrated channel. Great video

  • @lomm__
    @lomm__ หลายเดือนก่อน

    when i look at your face im reminded why eugenics ever took off

  • @doubleugly1594
    @doubleugly1594 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bad science?... almost certainly. Hilariously funny?... abso-fuckin-lutely

  • @bootstrap_paradox
    @bootstrap_paradox หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant video as always, your channel is fantastically underrated - this should have way more views! It's fascinating how pseudoscience can go hand in hand with oppressive societal structures. I would be very interested in the video about bad genetics. Also, I thought I heard the story of Phineas Gage countless times but apparently I didn't know everything!

  • @bllopawah
    @bllopawah หลายเดือนก่อน

    i prefer spinal catastrophism

  • @susumunakoshifan5345
    @susumunakoshifan5345 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GOAT posted, national holiday in full effect

  • @mattie1478
    @mattie1478 หลายเดือนก่อน

    new video, let's goooo!!

  • @paddington19
    @paddington19 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i love all your videos so much!! so happy to see this one

  • @ambrosinemariya
    @ambrosinemariya หลายเดือนก่อน

    so excited for this one, i’ve missed your uploads!!

  • @holocoffin
    @holocoffin หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was just listening to the song Skulls by Misfits. Perfect timing

  • @hhjhj393
    @hhjhj393 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also now that I think about it mages and witches were always an iffy subject even in ancient lore. In old viking cultures a male being a "mage" was a bad bad thing. I think the idea of men dabbling with the arts has always been seen as bad by society. Men should work, fight and die. If a man does anything outside of that then there must be something perverse and wrong with him. Therefore there must be ancient stories of these men portrayed as dark monsters. There have always been monks, hermits men who never fit in with society and it's demands and so they were either exiled or left themselves to go live in huts in the wilderness alone. So maybe mad scientists are just the modern version of the dark sorcerer or witch. Men or women who are outcasts of society, untrustworthy, meddling with forces they shouldn't be....

  • @hhjhj393
    @hhjhj393 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just want a list of all mad scientists for research. One of my favorite modern mad scientists is Bonedrewd. I feel he is really well done, but I don't think he is "new", and it got me thinking about all the other enigmatic mad scientists that come before him. In the show Made in Abyss (haven't read the comic) he is portrayed as completely losing his humanity. It's implied that the real Bonedrewd is dead and the zooaholic a plant artifact from previous civilization had recreated him, but it's not 100% that the recreation is even him anymore. He is portrayed almost as a force of mad science. Completely willing to do anything for discovery, but also lacking any ill will. It's this odd blend of reverence of life and discovery in all it's beauty and horror. When something goes bad for him he doesn't even get angry to him it's just another oddity, another beauty of life, yet at the same time he will completely sacrifice and torture someone else just in the name of progress and discovery. His theme song I love is called, "the rumble of scientific triumph", which I guess is a meme from the comic, coming from a joke inserting an sfx from a cool panel. I just really enjoy when characters transcene humanity in some way to become an "ideal" almost like a god, a force. I know this has been done for thousands of years I just want a list to reference. The idea of humans becoming an emodiment of a certain force I don't think is new. I think it goes way back into ancient religions. Jesus becoming an emodiment of love and forgiveness, and Jesus is still modern, maybe even ancient greek or egyptian gods.

  • @underthethunder
    @underthethunder หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm an autistic trans woman who's very, very gifted in the social sciences and in many ways I do fit into the mad scientist archetype because I'm very eccentric in my behavior and beliefs, but I'm the opposite of the "high confidence and low warmth" stereotype because I've been repeatedly told how kind and empathic I am but I also struggle alot with my self-image and self-esteem because a lot of people don't seem to take my knowledge seriously even while simultaneously telling me how smart I am.

  • @michaelodonnell824
    @michaelodonnell824 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gattaca might only peel back some of the layers, but it at least begins the conversation; a conversation other movies or even the wider media seems utterly uninterested in...

  • @michaelodonnell824
    @michaelodonnell824 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the 1990s and 2000s there was some talk about Insurance companies requiring genetic testing before agreeing to take on a client. Some jurisdictions, like the EU indicated that this would not be acceptable. Others, like the US, said nothing. Corporations are not, in any way ethical, so if some method for quickly analysing genetic health became available, corporations would use it. Corporations don't care about the law when it comes to pollution; they certainly wouldn't care about the law when it comes to genetics...

  • @kaminapearl7390
    @kaminapearl7390 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not exactly a cure, but HPV vaccine is very good at preventing Cervical cancer!

  • @joahchewbhaka5679
    @joahchewbhaka5679 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe you're not mad because you aren't a good one.

  • @jeremychicken3339
    @jeremychicken3339 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd say that Styro Pyro is the real mad scientist trope.

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Science is an abstract system about predictive validity. Most scientists do not know what it is really, yet their usage of the word gives them authority because today science is associated with status and power. It isn't the words that matter but the essence. Two things to keep in mind with straying from it are motivated reasoning and group dynamics which are not always bad

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those who can't do science get administrative positions doing peer review in journals. The incentive structures to gain status in academia is not aligned with actual scientific accomplishment, and there is always the problem of semantic shift

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a nature article about race where they say yes, different populations do have people who are more similar to each other due to having more shared ancestry, but no race doesn't exist. So it's all about signaling and repeating shibboleths?

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most people who believe in science do not believe in science.

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The vast majority of people sterilized in the US were mentally disabled women who 1) would not be able to consent to sex and 2) would not be able to care for any children. This is one of those things, like basically every issue, where you could trick leftists into supporting the policy by simply reframing the issue. If you didn't give the demographic breakdown of who it would be used on and said we'll just put in a iud, they could definitely support it because the whole thing about being left wing (high in only the individualizing moral foundations) is not caring about the substance of any issue

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The eugenics boogeyman is one of the most inane points people bring up. What's the alternative, intentional dysgenics? Do we want only the worst people to have kids? A populations traits are dependent on the frequency of alleles, so their problems are your problems. People also claim it just doesn't work which is obviously false since it is proven every year by trillions of organisms in agricultural eugenics. It's why we have more milk (in the US) despite fewer cows. Come up with a polygenic score for milk production, and even if it's underpowered, the alleles correlated with milk production will still go up. Israel is also one of the countries where eugenics is most widely practiced today

  • @jong.8203
    @jong.8203 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video! Though it leaves me curious to where non-human animals are concerned

  • @GeorgeOu
    @GeorgeOu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In China, it's technically illegal to demand blood tests from potential employees, but they do it anyways. Anyone who has something like Hepatitis B, which is very common in China, would not be hired or allowed into a University. One girl was kicked out of College over this and killed herself.

  • @SemK-b5c
    @SemK-b5c 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually, I like to think of myself as a compassionate mad scientist

  • @JonahHW
    @JonahHW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really great video! I was already familar with Hwang's fraud because of the BobbyBroccoli series on him, and the rest of the video was an awesome look at issues around the subject as a whole

  • @FaiaHalo
    @FaiaHalo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The amount of research, thought, nuance, work AND passion that is all within this video it's AMAZING. Thank you so much for sharing! And this only makes me trust science MORE. And it only makes me distrust capitalism's way of encouraging profits over knowledge. PS: I finally got some time to watch this properly paying it the attention it deserves, which is why I'm late replying. Much love from Latin America!

  • @KishercegésGombóc
    @KishercegésGombóc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lu made me steal figs from my eldery neighbor :p

  • @kaamn1829
    @kaamn1829 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is a really good assessment of the situation, and I think the way you covered the history of cloning, its place in pop culture, and the actual medical realities of the situation is really well handled and gives a base overview while not neglecting the nuances--or the absolute truths--at the heart of the issue/idea. i've often brought up the environmental factors when discussing this with other people and even those separated triplets, but i had no idea about the cats and womb environment, which adds a whole other layer to the idea that we could ever get actual, 100% similar clones. this video essay/discussion was really well done and I feel i'm walking away from it with a better, holistic understanding of the topic! thanks!

  • @thinking.online
    @thinking.online 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of my favorite books ever- happy to have stumbled upon this :)

  • @atlas_cass
    @atlas_cass 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another banger! I've only gotten 10min in, but intro blew me away!!

  • @tytesseract
    @tytesseract 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great timing given the news this morning - one cloned rhesus monkey achieved, still living after 2 years. Why? For human medical testing 👀 NB number of embryos created 113, implanted into surrogates 11, pregnancies 2, live births one¹ 1 edit, insert *allegedly*

  • @Ancusohm
    @Ancusohm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Well done.

  • @holocoffin
    @holocoffin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great video. You cover this topic with nuance and a sense of humor and compassionate curiosity.

    • @luvarga
      @luvarga 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You always say the nicest things 😅 Thank you for being around!